Jonas To Leave Newcastle – Problems With Carver

Jonas Gutierrez will be released by Newcastle in the summer, when his contract runs out, after the news tonight that he has had some kind of falling out with interim head coach John Carver.

great shot of carver and jonas

Carver and Jonas in happier times

The Argentine winger was our Man of the March against Sunderland, so it was surprising when he was left out of the 18 man squad for yesterday 3-1 defeat at home to Tottenham.

After the game Carver wouldn’t comment specifically on why Jonas had been omitted from the 18 man squad, and then said it was a selection issue.

This is what Carver said after the game yesterday:

“I have my reasons and I don’t want to talk about Gutierrez anymore.”  “Selection reasons. We have a pool of 18 players.”

That didn’t seem to make much sense, and it’s now clear there was some disagreement with Carver and Gutierrez last week, and certainly the head coach is having problems in both controlling the players and getting the best out of them.

The team is currently in free-fall under Carver, and we have the second worst record of any club in the  Premier League this year, with only QPR worse than us.

We are bottom of the league in the form guide because over the last six games we have no points.

We have two wins and three draws in 14 league game under Carver this year, and Newcastle are now lurching towards a relegation fight, if we cannot start picking up some points soon.

Carver isn’t only having problems with his coaching and tactics for the games, but he doesn’t seem to be able to control the players or get the team playing for him.

This is what happens when the cheap and easy choice is made (what again!), and a man with little experience and untested at the highest levels is given the Newcastle head coach job – even for just half a season.

It’s only one of a number of poor decisions that were made by Lee Charnley and Mike Ashley in January.

If we don’t start picking up some points soon, we could be in the Championship next season, although that still remains unlikely.

And finally Jonas has proved what a gutsy and brave character he is by winning his fight with testicular cancer over the last 18 months.

And it’s more than a little interesting that the Argentine’s fight, guts and spirit  is exactly what’s missing from the Newcastle team under John Carver.

Comments welcome.

16 comments so far

  • Ibizatoon

    Apr 21, 2015 at 12:00 AM

    Comment #1

    Where has this come from? Anyone know?

    Is this based on the fact he was already likely to be going this summer?

  • jayphoto

    Apr 21, 2015 at 12:08 AM

    Comment #2

    @ibiza its in the daily mail but think they have club sources that have leaked it!

  • optimistic prime

    Apr 21, 2015 at 12:10 AM

    Comment #3

    High fivers of the world unite to back up blackleys shite.

    Funny how people are refered to as bullies when they reply to a wum that’s been at it all day.

    There’s three people on here using fives but there five knuckle shuffling each other.

    I definatley beleive he lives in a 3000ft propertey, what he doesn’t tell you it’s a one bedroomef apartment in a block of flats and the cleaners there to clean the piss out the lift.

  • Ibizatoon

    Apr 21, 2015 at 12:11 AM

    Comment #4

    jayphoto…Seems an odd one though. Released at the end of the season? His contract runs out.

    Oh well, the club have taken a stand! About someone speaking the truth! Marvelous!


  • optimistic prime

    Apr 21, 2015 at 12:11 AM

    Comment #5

    Go to go chaps it’s the maids day off and my butler has gout, it’ll be a busy day tomorrow as I’ll have to clean the castle myself.

  • jimmysmith

    Apr 21, 2015 at 12:13 AM

    Comment #6

    How close is he to being relieved of his responsibilities and an interim coach being appointed, frighteningly.


    Actually, Joe would sadly be a better bet to wring a point out of this by now hapless almost hopeless lot.

  • jayphoto

    Apr 21, 2015 at 12:14 AM

    Comment #7

    Few rumours flying round bout why theyve fallen out! Most likely one is thar Carver dropping him for spurs prevents jonas playing enough games for contract extension and most far fetched being jonas flipped after finding out carver will be head coach next season.
    Quite a few unsettling rumours from people saying Carvers told a few ppl hes head coach next season

  • Ben3arfa

    Apr 21, 2015 at 12:14 AM

    Comment #8

    If that clueless twat Carver our head coach next season then f*** it Im gona support Middlesbrough.

  • optimistic prime

    Apr 21, 2015 at 12:20 AM

    Comment #9

    What no high fives.

    Horrible horrible people you’re all bullies, I hate you all for having a different opinion and not laughing with me but at me.

    Sorry I need to go cry myself to sleep

  • KevinLee

    Apr 21, 2015 at 12:46 AM

    Comment #10

    Mike, Charnley & Carver will go to hell, it must

  • DicBDownUnder

    Apr 21, 2015 at 12:49 AM

    Comment #11

    Jonas is more of a Geordie than JC will ever be in my eyes, If JC was a true Geordie he would stand up for his club and drop to his knees at Ashleys request

  • DicBDownUnder

    Apr 21, 2015 at 12:50 AM

    Comment #12

    *and NOT drop to his knees….

  • lesh

    Apr 21, 2015 at 1:33 AM

    Comment #13

    If Carver is appointed as HC, the decision having been made despite his lack of experience and demonstrated lack of ability before the end of the season, I wonder whether the poor sods who’ve renewed their STs, have any grounds for legal action against the club?

    On what grounds?

    Mmmm, maybe selling a product in Bad Faith* might just help set the scene.

    * The fraudulent deception of another person; the intentional or malicious refusal to perform some duty or contractual obligation.

    Bad faith is not the same as prior judgment or Negligence. One can make an honest mistake about one’s own rights and duties, but when the rights of someone else are intentionally or maliciously infringed upon, such conduct demonstrates bad faith.

  • Sav

    Apr 21, 2015 at 2:18 AM

    Comment #14

    Looks like JC is more from the school of Gullit and Souness than Sir Bobby. Excellent time to perfect his man-management skills by clashing with last week’s Man of the Match.
    Funny, while the side is in crisis it is ok for JC not to settle his differences with a hard-working, wholehearted and experienced player while at the same time, he, Moncur and FFS tell disenfranchised fans ‘now is not the time to boycott the team’. Patronising and hypocritical.

  • Carl819

    Apr 21, 2015 at 6:58 AM

    Comment #15

    Jonas was on his way anyway but this is another example of the ineptitude of Carver. I don’t blame Mr. Carver for taking the job but anyone with a modicum of footballing sense could see what was going to happen. A dental hygienist may be brilliant at their job but for root canal surgery you would want a specialist, not someone who is prepared to have a go. All the Pardew haters, you’ve got your wish, thanks lads !

  • the truth

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #16

    The only manager that would want to join you, would be someone who is suffering from some sort of mental ailment wanting to punish themselves in the worst possible form!

    The football world is happy to admire the quality manager that Alan Pardew is today. Had he stayed on in NU , he would either committed suicide or retired to some remote corner of this world never to be heard of again. That is what your club does to quality managers. Then why would anyone in their right sense want to be there?

    All through his time there , you guys couldn’t wait to see the back of him. We now see where the fault is! When you cannot appreciate quality then you must realize the shit you are.

    I wish he had left out earlier, because its his points that is still keeping you up. Otherwise you would have been long ago flushed down where you belong.

    It would be a mighty shame if Teams like Leicester who plays above their potential are relegated while a team like NU who play way below their potential remains! Mighty injustice to the players, fans and clubs alike.


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