Carver’s Leadership Skills Put To The Test – And He’s Struggling


John Carver has had a very bad time of it this year as the Newcastle head coach,  and that appointment through the end of the season has not been a good one in retrospect, and if we lose at home to Swansea on Saturday, Michael Owen could be right and we could lose all our remaining games this season – there will be just four left after Saturday.

Three or four games ago that would have been a preposterous thing to say – but no more.

john carver at man city 5-0

John Carver – hasn’t got the leadership skills necessary

If that complete disaster does happen, it will mean 11 games lost on the trot – but surely we can win at least one game.

When we look at the way the players have performed this year – there’s not much optimism on Tyneside – and our players don’t seem to care too much either – with some players – both good and bad – knowing they will leave the club this summer.

If we are relegated this season it will be a classic study of how not to run a football club, and maybe Mike Ashley will sell up – but he’d have to take a huge loss because a Championship club is maybe worth £70M.

That would mean Ashley would lose around £200M on Newcastle, which tells us he wouldn’t sell even then.

John Carver doesn’t seem to have the leadership skills to be able to inspire his players, although he does talk a good game – but surely our players are not as bad as they have looked this year, and a lot of our problems could be down to just inexperienced coaching.

This is what Carver has said today:

“We all have to have the fight. It’s no good three or four or five having it.” “I will certainly be banging the drum and that we don’t let this fizz away.”

“It shouldn’t do. When you are a professional once you cross that line all you are focused on is getting good results and playing well, so what goes on around you shouldn’t really matter that much.”

“We know that when the crowd get behind the side here it is a fantastic place to be. The players have to be big enough to deal with it.”

Does anybody really think that if a coach of the caliber of a Sir Bobby Robson came in, he couldn’t get Newcastle playing so much better than we are at the moment – and with the same players we have now – Alan Pardew had us on a six game winning streak last October.

Ashley and Charnley took the cheap and easy option of John Carver, but it was always a risk to give the job to somebody with so limited coaching experience as the lead man, and the whole thing is backfiring in a disastrous way.

And this utter collapse this season should tell Mike Ashley that a good coach is even more important than good players, if he wants Newcastle to survive in the Premier League.

We’d love to see a whole new coaching team brought in at the end of the season, but that will not happen as Ashley is more interested in people who will play by his own strict rules and not complain.

John Carver meets those requirements.

This all  means Newcastle United will never be successful under this owner.

But the vast majority of fans already know that only too well – that’s what’s so depressing for a club who were once so great.

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265 comments so far

  • Mr Magpie

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:33 PM

    Comment #1

    Mr Magpie // Apr 22, 2015 at 2:30 PM

    Band B@15
    If Blackley or anyone else thinks the ground was nearly full on Sunday they are clearly dillusional.
    Unfortunately he just like Jeff always appears to looking for an argument of some kind, making ridiculous comments designed to antagonise other posters into a response.
    Ibiza always has a fair & balanced approach to discussions & should not feel the need to lower himself to petty squabbles with the likes of the above mentioned.

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  • optimistic prime

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:34 PM

    Comment #2

    Struggling wow, I wouldn’t call it that

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  • Mister Tuff

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:35 PM

    Comment #3

    Mr Blackley I have to pull you up on a couple of points – your previous quotes:-
    “…..You wouldn’t accept my estimate of the crowd ……..”
    “…..No inaccuracies from me.”

    Can we really believe your statements – of estimates and accuracies when you think a car has more than one clutch.
    Comedy Gold. You cannot make this stuff up.

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  • hibbit

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:35 PM

    Comment #4

    BLACKLEY AND BROWNLIE OUT JEFF FROM BENWELL OUT WELSH GEORDIE OUT THE 3 STOODGES OUT JUST IGNORE THEM GOOD RIDDANCE TO THE 3 WUM’S

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  • Ibizatoon

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:37 PM

    Comment #5

    OP…He still has a few games to turn it around…

    Then we can say, without any doubt, “struggled”.

    At least John has cleared something up for us.

    “It shouldn’t do. When you are a professional once you cross that line all you are focused on is getting good results and playing well, so what goes on around you shouldn’t really matter that much.”

    “We know that when the crowd get behind the side here it is a fantastic place to be. The players have to be big enough to deal with it.”

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:39 PM

    Comment #6

    Ibiza…I saw you referenced The White Stripes earlier and I most add that I sometimes on here get a Blue Orchid feeling 😉

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  • Rotonda heights

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:41 PM

    Comment #7

    what leadership skills. Could you ever imagine SBR offering the fans outside!!

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:41 PM

    Comment #8

    The bottom line is what Martin Samuels (Daily Mail chief sports writer ) said on the Sunday Supplement .
    I think it was Slank referred to it.

    The fans have every right to protest .

    Ashley has every right to manage his property as he sees fit.

    The open letter from the fans forum should achieve much more than lots of badly organised and not very well supported boycotts.You just know that if it had been NUFC that had scored the 3rd goal in the match instead of Spurs that folk would have just sat tight .

    Ashley is rarely in the North East

    Charnley is around every day
    People should be doorstepping him and pestering him for quotes

    Jaw jaw not War war

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  • Ibizatoon

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:42 PM

    Comment #9

    Jesper… And I call myself a fan! Sir, as always, I’m nothing without you 🙂

    Great choice.

    “You got a reaction
    You got a reaction, didn’t you?
    You took a white orchid
    You took a white orchid turned it blue”

    Turn it up loud people.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW8UlrtcEac

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  • Ibizatoon

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:42 PM

    Comment #10

    I wonder if its Ashleys chopper you can hear at the beginning….

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  • Slank

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:43 PM

    Comment #11

    Ed,

    You are assuming that Ashley would sell and lose money.

    He could close the club. Sell all the players and pocket the money. Sell all the fixtures and fittings. Sell the training ground. Demolish the stadium and sell the rubble. Even sell the trade mark.

    You are, as I have just done, making assumptions as to what Ashley can do but you are wrapping it up as if you know his intentions, which I’m pretty sure you don’t.

    And by the way we were never a great club. Any glance at the record books will confirm that. We have a big crowd, end of.

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  • Our Toon

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:44 PM

    Comment #12

    Blackley

    Well done for going to the ground at the weekend, your support made a huge difference to the outcome of the game, you paid good money to watch us lose again and more importantly you made the owner happy as he loves punters like you….you know the dense type that back his regime and then boo St the end of the game. Those very people will be back next week to see the same again and again. You don’t attend as a NUFC fan because if you were one you’d realise just how bad things are…you attend as a selfish ignorant chap who believes he’s a die hard fan when really your more in line with the Wonga / SD punter. Anything for a cheap day out.

    As for finances I know them inside out and I’m more than qualified to make comments on it unlike you. The original loan under hall and shepherd was due to run out in 2015, that was at £80m….today it’s an “interest free loan” which stands at 129m due to end when the owner leaves. I could give you a break down of each and every penny they’ve accounted since he’s taken over the club if you’d like?

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  • Ketsbaia9

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:45 PM

    Comment #13

    People’s having a joke suggesting these pathetic players.

    These are the only decent players we have at the moment:

    Krul
    Janmaat
    Coloccini
    Cabella
    Marveaux
    Sissoko
    Anita
    Ferreyra
    Perez
    Cisse
    Siem De Jong
    Rolando Aarons

    The rest need to be sold. Absolute garbage.

    The players would be good signings:

    Konoplyanka – Free
    Mdodji – £4m
    Van Dijk – £6m
    Kolorov – £3m
    Leroy Fer – £4m
    Nathan Redmond – £4m
    Andre Ayew – Free
    Gourcuff – Free
    Clement Grenier – £8m
    Danny Ings – Free
    Benteke – £15m

    Total spend = £44m

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  • Slank

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:45 PM

    Comment #14

    Rotunda @ 7

    If Sir Bobby was alive today he would be turning in his grave.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:45 PM

    Comment #15

    For what it’s worth, I’ve always thought our club was great. I was even proud of it and to be a supporter.

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  • Belfast

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:46 PM

    Comment #16

    That’s Carvers poo face in the picture.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:46 PM

    Comment #17

    Slank@14…Might need to re-visit that one 🙂

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  • Belfast

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:47 PM

    Comment #18

    The constipation shot…..

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  • Ibizatoon

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:48 PM

    Comment #19

    Still, without a doubt, my favourite.

    Give the lad his pocket money back Ashley 🙂

    https://twitter.com/IbizaToon/status/589826567158767616

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  • optimistic prime

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:50 PM

    Comment #20

    Kets

    🙂

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  • hibbit

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #21

    slank agree with most of what you say about what ashley could do but we were a great club it might have been a long time ago but we were a great club

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #22

    Ibiza…”get behind me now
    get behind me now, s….!” 😉

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  • Belfast

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #23

    He’s been saying the same thing for months now, and there’s been no improvement.

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  • optimistic prime

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #24

    Slank

    Maybe the record books don’t make out we’re great but we where great In so many fans eyes.

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  • Dude

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:52 PM

    Comment #25

    Not 100% relevant, but I always wonder if Carver has ever heard of moisturiser ?

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  • Ketsbaia9

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:52 PM

    Comment #26

    Team for next season:

    Krul

    Janmaat Mdodji Van Dijk Kolorov

    Ayew Grenier Sissoko Gourcuff Konoplyanka

    Benteke

    Subs:
    Darlow
    Anita
    Raylor
    Coloccini
    Lascelles
    Siem De Jong
    Marveaux
    Ings
    Perez
    Redmond
    Aarons
    Fer
    Haidara

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:52 PM

    Comment #27

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOxfj1IrUUI

    Looking at this I would say at the start 5% under capacity which is the 47000 figure most sources are quoting which being on a Sunday teatime and on telly is about par for the course , obviously when we went 2 goals behind fans streamed out down to about 10,000, however they also did at the Stadium of Plight and they had no organised boycott !!!!
    Go figure

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  • Dude

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:53 PM

    Comment #28

    Fast forward to blog, April 22 2025: Newcastle confirm interest in veteran forward John Guidetti.

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  • Ketsbaia9

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #30

    Sell:

    Gouffran – £2m
    Obertan – £3m
    Ameobi – £2m
    Dummett – £1m
    Williamson – £1m
    Tiote – £10m
    Riviere – £5m
    Colback – £5m

    Total – £29m

    I’d also keep Abied as he’s been one of our best players this season.

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  • Dude

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #31

    Ketsbaia, I love your teams. Keep them coming, marra !

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:57 PM

    Comment #32

    BandB

    I estimated more than 40,000 and nearer 450000. You had it much less than this according to your photos. You couldn’t make it up. Only in this case you have.

    Remind everyone of your figure and what you said to me. Remind them that I said what I’ve just said above. It’s all on the blog in bkack and white. Are you disputing NUFC.COM’s estimate too because it doesn’t agree with your photos?

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  • optimistic prime

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:58 PM

    Comment #33

    Some people will grasp at anything to make out the crowd was bigger than it was.

    Very amusing as those same people said it wouldn’t make a difference.

    Job was done, all eyes wa on SJP

    Better luck next time nay Sayers

    Woof woof woof

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  • Mr Magpie

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:58 PM

    Comment #34

    Ibizatoon@9
    If i may throw my White Stripes song into the ring sir, can i propose one that fits the current mood “I’M BOUND TO PACK IT UP” off the album De Stijl.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Apr 22, 2015 at 2:58 PM

    Comment #35

    Jesper…Did i read you were going to see a band this weekend?

    Hope you enjoy it.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Apr 22, 2015 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #36

    Mr Magpie
    Read what I have said. Read what BandB said when I estimated it was easily more than 40000 and probably nearer 45000. What are you saying it was? Were you there or were you just looking at a photo of a half empty stadium ad proof? I have looked for some evidence to corroborate my view. The first place I look and they estimate 10000 empty seats. Right in my ball park range. So who is coming up with ridiculous figures? NUFC.COM and I or BandB?

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  • Ketsbaia9

    Apr 22, 2015 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #37

    Reserve team:

    Darlow

    Raylor/Anita Lascelles Coloccini Haidara

    Redmond Cabella Fer Abeid Aarons

    Ings

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  • Ibizatoon

    Apr 22, 2015 at 3:01 PM

    Comment #38

    Mr Magpie…Im slowly starting to think that maybe every White Stripes song might be appropriate.

    How about..

    You don’t know what love is, you just do as you’re told?

    I’m slowly turning in to you.

    Oh dear, plans on hold for now, White Strips are calling me 🙂

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Apr 22, 2015 at 3:02 PM

    Comment #39

    OP

    I can’t believe the boycotter who used his mate’s ticket to go into the ground wants to comment on this point. Incredible. Absolutely incredible.

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  • dok - the horrid colonial

    Apr 22, 2015 at 3:04 PM

    Comment #40

    blackley,

    give it a rest, you dolt… no one really cares what your OPINION is anymore…you just love the sound of your lonely typing… youre as hard headed as a wall, maybe go play in traffic, please?

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