Newcastle In Real Danger Of Setting New Premier League Record


John Carver has equaled the six game losing streak he helped to set last year at this time,  when he was the touchline manager after Alan Pardew had been banned for seven games, and Newcastle for the first time ever in the Premier League lost six games in a  row.

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John Carver – very poor record at Newcastle

And since John Carver was given the head coach job through the end of the season, he is now on another six game losing streak, we have lost seven of the last eight games,  and Newcastle have taken only 9 points from the 42 available this year,

Newcastle have won only two games of the 15 games played this year – and we are now in a relegation struggle after being 9th top after 19 games with 26 points, when John took over at the start of the year.

With other Premier League clubs that would just not be good enough, but at Newcastle we are told the top brass are impressed with John, and he is in line to be the head coach of the club at the end of May.

Go figure.

Newcastle are in danger of setting a new record against Swansea on Saturday of seven defeats in a row in the Premier League.

We hope that doesn’t happen.

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105 comments so far

  • SuperShearer

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #1

    Sorry Ed’s too quick:
    Can someone help me out with something: When Ashley took over the club did he not tell us that he would back Newcastle to the tune of £20 million a season of his own money? Maybe I’m getting that wrong but it sounds familiar. If that is the case and we’ve just turned an £18 million profit, where does his money come in?

    I guess my really question is this: If you were a multi-billionaire and you bought a football club would you not want to enjoy the experience? Because it doesn’t seem to me that Ashley does enjoy it AT ALL. For the record Mr. Ashley there are quicker, more profitable ways of making money than owning a football club yet here we sit in a stalemate, you hate us, we hate you and we’re both sitting here miserable. If you can’t find a buyer why not float the club on the market? Set your share asking price and slowing begin to sell it off. People will buy shares in this club, you’d be surprised at how quickly they’re snapped up.

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  • mindshaft

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #2

    @SS – Ashley changed his tune quite quickly and once we were relegated he basically just increased the debt owed to him! Ashley has at no time given Newcastle money, he’s loaned money to us and took free advertising as interest

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  • Mister Tuff

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #3

    SuperShearer – you are indeed correct about Mr Tubbs stating he was going to bankroll the club with his own money to the tune of £20 a year.
    However, after the alleged, threats to kill or attack him and his family, (stress alleged as at the time it was reported the cops knew nothing about it) he issued a statement saying he was no longer going to do it.
    The statement is online dated 2008 if I remember correctly.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #4

    Supershearer,
    Looking back, he came in and made loads of promises and got a lot of fans onside. He had no intention of honouring these promises in his quest to turn us into a billboard so he hired then engineered a fall out with KK to give him the perfect excuse to renege on his word when the fans kicked off as he knew they would.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #5

    error £20 million.

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  • martoon

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #6

    SuperShearer @1 – Incidentally I’m not defending Ashley but I think he started full of good intentions (like anybody with a new toy) sitting in the crowd etc. It all seemed to turn sour, after Keegan, when some nuggets threatened him and his family – I sometimes wonder if things would have been different if that hadn’t happened – probably not he would have got bored anyway.

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  • optimistic prime

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #7

    So JC and SM are the top candidates out the 90 applications, my arse.
    It took Ashley 90seconds to say fcuk you and give Carver the job.

    As for players leaving I’m not fussed 90% are just shite or cowards. People shouldn’t be more worried about players leaving they should be worried about the fans leaving.

    The worm has turned, the club should be doing everything they can to get us onside, but hey do nowt is their MO.

    Charver Charnley are judas plain and simple anything for a few quid, they should be embarrassed especially JC.

    The attitude of wait and see has got us here in the position the club now sees itself, what are you waiting for Ashley to wipe his arse on the club crest?

    He’s already pissed all over it!

    A fool and his money are easily parted.

    The bloke being shown around the ground was Small World choosing his new seat, it’s the fans with his attitude that’s making this struggle harder. Him and no marks like Blackley who know what’s wrong but sit on their arses bitching at fans who want change.

    When the club implodes due to there apathy they’ll be wiping their tears away with a wonga top whilst Ashley spins there season ticket money on a roulette table laughing his fat mans tits off.

    Fcuk Ashley fcuk carver and fcuk that baldy bitch Charnley.

    HWTF

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  • geordie157

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #8

    dreading the Swansea game, i can see us playing better (which isn’t exactly hard to do after recent performances) but Swansea will hit us on the counter. Not sure if Montero is fit but his pace could give Janmaat a real test, Dyer and Routledge too, with the latter tending to play well against us since he left.

    Funny to think Routledge would walk into our side thesedays!

    Hopefully Carver tries Riviere and Perez as a front two. Stick Ferrerya on the bench and throw him on for 20-30mins. I think he’ll be like L.De Jong, he’ll end up in Holland and look like a quality player again.

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  • Lindisfarne

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #9

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/11549853/Mike-Ashley-knows-hes-made-a-mess-of-things-at-Newcastle-United-so-why-wont-he-sell-up.html

    “”Only Mike Ashley knows that answer and he does not take questions from anyone other than Sports Direct shareholders. So if you want to know, buy some shares and go the AGM in September.””

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  • optimistic prime

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #10

    JFA

    Totally agree with that.

    These supposed mistakes are a well thought out strategy to get the club on it’s knees so he could do what he wanted and make it look like it was necessary.

    Slimy scumbag

    HWTF

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  • Ibizatoon

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #11

    martoon…also from previous…I have to ask 🙂 Your personal reasons, is it fear of being attacked on here or simply because it’s no one elses business?

    I sense you’re getting near the end of your patience with his running of the club. I’m not pushing you, but would that mean come next Feb, if things haven’t changed, you would cancel your ST?

    I was often asked at what point Ibiza is enough enough? There was no real way to answer, it’s enough when it’s enough for each person 🙂

    I suppose what I’m asking, is there a line where people say you can’t get away with this “support the team through thick and thin” anymore. The impression I get from some is that there is nothing Ashley could do that would stop them going.

    Glad you support the campagin though. There is always some middle ground to be found, but something does need to be done.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #12

    martoon,
    In 1939 a group of German special forces soldiers blew up a train station inside Germany dressed as Polish partisans, the Polish government denied all knowledge of the attack before Germany used this as an excuse to invade.. Northumbria police received no reports of any threats to Mike Ashley proior to him releasing his last statement. Subterfuge is nothing new.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #13

    As for following me on twitter…ha ha, ya poor guy! 🙂

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  • davetoon

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #14

    Congratulations on the record John

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #15

    Ibiza,
    Could you appeal to Lineker via twitter to say a few words, he seems to have a lot of clout

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  • Ibizatoon

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #16

    Lindisfarne…Interesting read. Asking that same question, why?

    Does he really expect answers to be given at the SD AMG?

    Didn’t reporters try that not that long ago and basically got similar answers that fans get at our “fan forum”?

    It can’t work as Ashley simply will not allow proper communication. Even when they said they have changed that and that Lee would be doing so, they haven’t. After a while you have to come to the conclusion that they can’t or don’t want to. Neither is acceptable for me. No matter how much profit they boast. You can’t buy respect. Well, not from me anyway 🙂

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  • Ibizatoon

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #17

    Jail…I’ll give anything a go mate….oooo eeer.

    Have you considered bringing Jail For Ashley to the Twitter arena? 🙂

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  • mindshaft

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #18

    Players have all the power these days and rarely feel affinity to the club they play for – most want to earn as much money as they can and play at the highest level they can reach… I’ve no problem with players coming to toon to showcase themselves for a bigger team, it’s nothing new ( Cole – Arse- Chelsea, Nasri, Arse – Citeh, Suarez – Liverpool – Barca, Bale, Spurs … etc) it’s just sad that these days bigger teams include Southampton , Spurs – we’re now with the likes of Stoke, Crystal Palace as an attraction to players

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  • hibbit

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #19

    martoon northumbria police released a statement that they had not received any complaints of any threats made against mike ashley …. another lie ….

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  • sickandtired

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #20

    @ Martoon – after KK? Perhaps you have already forgotten about Verete, Jimenez and Wise?
    The only truly accountable (and qualified) MD he appointed was Mort, and he packed in soon enough no doubt because he saw what was happening (though after being paid 1.26 million).
    Ashley’s ownership has been a shambles from the day he arrived. His own meddling and appointments has led to the state of things.
    He wasn’t threatened – he just said he was. It’s the same as the rubbish story about Pardew (being threatened on the street and in his car) – and Pardew himself has now said it never happened at all.
    The money wasted on all of those idiots and the players they were responsible for, AND a relegation, are entirely Ashley’s fault.

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  • headtheball

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #21

    I have unearthed a prospective alternative for the post of NUFC head coach.
    He knew Sir Bobby and was voted English footballer of the year 1980-81 and his manager at the time was Sir Bobby.
    He is currently interim coach of Brisbane Roar with a win rate of 45.5%.
    Did I mention he knew Sir Bobby?
    His name is Frans Thijssen.
    Did I mention he was fired by Malmo FF after two years in 1998 because they were almost relegated for the first time.
    All together now
    We want Frans we want Frans.
    Did I mention he knew Sir Bobby?
    He could be cheap.
    HWTF

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  • Ibizatoon

    Apr 22, 2015 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #22

    headtheball…

    Cheap? Check.
    Ties to Newcastle? Worked with Sir Bobby, check.
    Failed elsewhere, so has a point to prove? Check.
    Doesn’t mind a bit of interim coaching? Check.

    If Carver wasn’t worrried before, he should be now…

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  • jayphoto

    Apr 22, 2015 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #23

    Can’t work out if the club still actually view Carver as a possibility or if Lee Ryder is just trying to help his old mate out by keeping his name in there?
    If Lucien Favre wants the job and Carver gets it thats simply a travesty.
    Supported Toon through thick and thin but if Carver gets it i’ll be watching the local lower league team next season!

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  • Wayayman

    Apr 22, 2015 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #24

    ^^^^Jay does Favre want the job? I’d snap his hand off if true. Yes, I can dream…

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  • optimistic prime

    Apr 22, 2015 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #25

    Ibiza

    I know you’ve already done more than your share but you’re in touch with AO.

    If they’re planning on handing out leaflets again this weekend I think it would be a good idea to draw people attention to the tv show due to come on tv about SD secrets.

    Maybe a banner or two or the details on the flyers. Just a idea but it may hurry our fans changing their minds and it will make other people takes look at his MO.

    Hit SD at every opportunity

    HWTF

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  • jayphoto

    Apr 22, 2015 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #26

    @wayayman – according to ryder in the chronicle he does but he’s not being considered a realistic appointment

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  • Tinman

    Apr 22, 2015 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #27

    Is it a coincidence that the four coaches from last nights Champions League all played under Sir Bobby? Looks like Jose is not the only one who has taken inspiration from the great man.
    https://www.facebook.com/jakubrzezniczak/photos/a.619580508082389.1073741826.184978941542550/987507964622973/?type=1&theater

    Shame about Carver…

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  • Slank

    Apr 22, 2015 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #28

    optimistic @ 25

    ‘Hit SD at every opportunity’

    What about Debenhams and House of Fraser as Ashley is a major shareholder ?

    What about the other wners (shareholders) of SD like the union pension funds ?

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  • Wayayman

    Apr 22, 2015 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #29

    Jesus, that’s ridiculous but sadly not surprising.

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  • Slank

    Apr 22, 2015 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #30

    Carver would appear to be the classic case of a good right hand man to a good manager but not a good manager in his own right.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Apr 22, 2015 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #31

    Ibiza
    Reply to you. Last post. Previous thread.

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  • jayphoto

    Apr 22, 2015 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #32

    Be amazed if they appoint Carver purely based on his time in the MLS! If people think his interviews atm are out there, at Toronto they were on another planet. He once blamed a ref giving a penalty against toronto because his physical image didn’t suit the MLS and the league wanted him to be sacked so were conspiring against him with the refs to cause him to lose games and be sacked….
    Hes a car crash and bad publicity waiting to happen! If we want rid of him 5 minutes of the treatment pardew got at home to Cardiff would see him explode!

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  • Mister Tuff

    Apr 22, 2015 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #33

    op – I informed AO by email –early hours of yesterday morning about the Secrets of Sports Direct programme.
    It’s just a pity it’s on Monday -but I suppose anything of interest can be highlighted next week – if it had been on this week they might have been able to use something from it for Saturday.

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  • Sav

    Apr 22, 2015 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #34

    Carver: “There are five games left and we must win one. I believe we can do it. We can’t just say it – we have to do it now. Now is the moment.”
    What an insipid, uninspiring, gutless and shameful thing for any Newcastle United manager to say. Sir Bobby would be roaring at you John Carver. Your epic incompetence is no excuse.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Apr 22, 2015 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #35

    So folk are finally picking up on what I’ve been saying from the start. If you want rid of Ashley, target SD not NUFC.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Apr 22, 2015 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #36

    Jayphoto…When you look at it, it’s amazing he was even given the chance.

    His previous record has nothing in it to warrant the chance. There are thousands of Geordies, willing to work for less than youre standard football manager, I am sure. That shoudnt even be mentioned as a reason.

    Then there was the incident with the fans last year when times got tough. Fans inside the stadium I should add.

    We already had injuries, we had already had a bad run this season. It was pure lunacy to go with him in the first place.

    With that in mind, I would find it hard to find it amazing if he kept the job beyond this season.

    OP…Good idea. I refer to you Tuff at 33.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Apr 22, 2015 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #37

    blackley – please not again- go away -give us a day off – please just one day -it’s not asking that much.

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  • jayphoto

    Apr 22, 2015 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #38

    @ibiza – Just think appointing Carver full time would be the straw that broke the camels back with a lot of fans.
    I think he’s had poor luck with injuries and suspensions but all those bans were avoidable if there was any discipline at the club.
    The problem for me is that even on bare bones there should be fight and heart. If we don’t have attacking players even conference teams can set out to be tough to beat for premier league teams and we’ve been so unorganised its unreal in our set up! All fall under carvers remit for me!

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  • Mister Tuff

    Apr 22, 2015 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #39

    I mean it’s a nice day today in the North East – have you finished cutting the grass – or even get a bit of gardening done. Or get yourself away to the beach with the family.
    If your struggling for transport give me a shout and I’ll let you borrow the squad car.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Apr 22, 2015 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #40

    Tuff
    I ignored your first comment of the day because it was playground stuff designed to save face and maintain your status in the gang hierarchy. If you can’t take a bit of ribbing, don’t give it out. You wouldn’t then dread my posts so much.

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