Newcastle Reported After Dutch International Midfielder


There’s news in the Mirror today that Newcastle United are interested in 23 year-old Feyenoord captain and central midfielder Jordy Clasie.

jorddy clasie

Jordy Clasie – Dutch International midfielder

Clasie is a good player but he is small and stands only just over 5’6″ tall,  and is about one half-inch taller than Vurnon Anita, who has had trouble getting to grips with the Premier League over the last three seasons.

Clasie joined Feyenoord in 2011 from Excelsior when current Southampton manager Ronald Koeman was the manager, and he made his debut in August of that year for the first team.

Since then he’s played 150 times for Feyenoord with seven goals and 23 assists, and has 11 full caps for Holland and is a good all round player and is good with both feet.

While he generally plays in attacking central midfield he can also play in defensive midfield and out on the right wing, and the news in the Mirror is that the Magpies want to offer Vurnon Anita in a part exchange plus cash to make the deal.

But the other club said to be interested in him is Southampton, and we have to think that he would want to join the Saints,  if only because Ronald Koeman is there and the Dutch manager would seem to have the advantage of persuading the player to join him on the south coast.

The Saints may be losing some of their best players again this summer and £10M rated Clasie is said to be the potential replacement for Morgan Schneiderlin.

Koeman have a much better chance of persuading Clasie to join the Saints than John Carver would have persuading the Dutchman  to join Newcastle, although some other top clubs like Liverpool are also said to be interested in the player.

Southampton are a more ambitious club than Newcastle these days, and they have made it clear they want to be in the Champions League and they have also finished above Newcastle over the last three seasons in the Premier League.

So we cannot see Newcastle being too successful in persuading the 23 year-old to join us in the summer, and here’s an example of Newcastle being after a good player but really we have very little chance of signing him because of our poor record over the last three seasons, and our complete lack of ambition.

So when John Carver says we are going after some top players – fine – but we cannot be favored to bring in many of our top candidates.

And we’ll bring in none at all if we drop down to the Championship, which is always a possibility if we keep losing our games.

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189 comments so far

  • Transfer Sage

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:29 PM

    Comment #1

    For all everyone mocks Blackley he did make a good point.

    Ashley continues to sell shares in sports direct, now owning 61.7% (if wikipedia is accurate). That means that if we do as Blackley suggest, and target SD through protests outside stores and highlighting as many issues the company have as possible then the negative attention might result in pressure put on Ashley by other share holders.

    Not massively clued up on business dealings so don’t know if this could have a big effect but it’s worth pursuing.

    If we become a problem to his owning/running of SD then he has no reason to remain here and may begin to actively seek a buyer.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:35 PM

    Comment #2

    BandB // Apr 22, 2015 at 3:49 PM

    As the dust settles and the smoke clears after the weekend, it’s time to ask the question..
    “Where are we now?”
    I imagine the boycott was at the very top end of what AO.Com could have dreamed of.
    A consensus is forming among those paid to report the game that there were around 10,000 empty seats at the start of the match.
    Film, photographs and word of mouth confirm that by the end there cannot have ever been fewer watching while the teams were still playing.
    Ashley, a smiling, unconcerned figure during his recent visits to the stadium, also boycotted.
    As the pictures of boycott flashed around the world, there must have been those with a share in Sports Direct and the struggling Wonga who must have wished their logo was not quite so prominent.
    On the pitch, the team hardly reinforced the idea these were brands you’d want to be associated with.
    And all the chatter on the airwaves was suddenly ” what disgrace Ashley has brought to that great club.”
    The old memes about “unrealistic Geordie fans” were almost absent in the deliberations.
    Instead there was almost unanimity that never had a group of fans and a city deserved better.
    Respect for those who broke the habit of a lifetime and stayed away. Respect to those who protested. Respect to those who walked out.

    “You can’t hurt Ashley!”.
    It has been said a thousand times on this blog. Only a fool would claim he-who-laughs would have enjoyed Sunday. Or Monday. Or Tuesday.

    “The fans can’t unite. They never have and they never will.”
    Again, it’s been said. The boycott wasn’t complete success, though it was only a first effort.
    There are teeming hundreds of thousands in this region who follow Newcastle United. They who talk about the club in the bar and the shop and the factory, wherever two or more are gathered together. In times recently past, many had no chance of getting a ticket for a game, such was the demand.
    By just before six on Sunday, a few thousands were watching the team. No longer the silent majority.
    Those arguments we can do nothing, that the fans can’t act together, have been used on this blog again today.
    But they are provably, demonstrably no longer true. That argument is lost.
    And that is the place we move on from.

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:35 PM

    Comment #3

    Yeah I just dont really get Ashley , seems to not want to progress the club or does not have a clue what to do

    Just seems to want to hire yes men who will not question anything but you cant have that in football especially because Ashley does not seem to know anything about football

    He could easily build bridges with the fans , engage the community , hire a decent manager and spend the clubs money rather than hoarding it for some unknown reason! Its not like he needs it !

    Hes either to stubborn to change or he actually hates the fans that much he enjoys watching us suffer !

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  • Our Toon

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:36 PM

    Comment #4

    TS

    I think MA will be gone by the beginning of 2016/17 season. A big indicator of this will be carver getting the job permanently in the summer on a 1 year deal

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:38 PM

    Comment #5

    This fixation with height must be a North American thing
    Lionel Messi is the same height and Eden Hazard (who hardly struggles in the EPL) is one inch taller.
    These are skillful ball magicians not tight ends with shoulder pads and helmets ffs

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  • Transfer Sage

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:39 PM

    Comment #6

    Our toon

    Interesting. Any idea why or just a gut feeling?

    I think Ashley need to make sure the club stays in the premier league to get the most out of selling it, the TV money is a huge asset.

    I don’t think Carver will get the job. I think we will hire a manager similar to Pardew, nothing exciting but enough experience to get us by.

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  • beermonkey

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:41 PM

    Comment #7

    sage

    I have spoken on here about protesting outside his shops at the weekend and its something all the fans up and down the country can get involved in

    you would never be able to keep it quiet and my only concern would be Ashley hiring rentamob to cause trouble and thus discrediting the protests

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  • Transfer Sage

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:41 PM

    Comment #8

    Jeff

    Size is an asset for many players though, especially in the premier league. Strength and speed can make up for a big lack in technical ability.

    It’s not the be all and end all, far from it, but unless you have a good technical side to your game size can be an issue.

    I’d also say the reason anita struggles isn’t his size, it’s more to do with him limited range of passing, only seems able to play it 10 yards.

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  • IndieGeordie

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:42 PM

    Comment #9

    Lets hit his first love…SD

    AshleyOutdotcom: Swansea City (h) protest plans announced

    http://ashleyout.com/articles/statements/swansea-h-protest-announcement-stand-up-to-ashley/

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:42 PM

    Comment #10

    Ibiza
    We are quite capable of reading BandB’s garbage without you reprising it as if they are the words of Mao Tse Tung at the height of the Great Leap Forward.
    Why not produce a little black and white book which we can all wave while repeating her wise words.

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  • Average_Contents

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:44 PM

    Comment #11

    Try telling silva that his height or lack thereof matters. Anita isn’t suited because we do not pass (I reckon he’d do well at Swansea or similar) and tbh nobody actually knows his proper position. Well pinocchio and johnny boy definitely don’t.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:44 PM

    Comment #12

    beer monkey

    If ran through a fan group could give out numbered stickers to wear which you only get after signing our name against that number….makes the organisers look better and covers their backs a bit.

    Also he could do that but if they are sustained and cause enough of an impact on shops then the board will still apply pressure.

    The best thing about a stationary protest is that unlike a march you don’t need to give warning to the police to make arrangements.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:45 PM

    Comment #13

    Average

    Again you listed top top quality players to say height doesn’t matter.

    It isn’t an issue if you have other exceptional attributed but for your average player without top draw technical skill size and strength is a key attribute.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:49 PM

    Comment #14

    Tuff

    See last comment on previous thread.

    BTW you’re claiming victory because the gang agrees with you. I was talking about the world at large not your cabal on here.

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  • Average_Contents

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:50 PM

    Comment #15

    That’s a massive undertaking by AshleyOut. Absolutely made up their targeting his beloved. They’ve managed to tie in the rangers fans too. Surprised is an understatement. Let’s hope it comes off. Can’t Fcuking wait.

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  • BandB

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:50 PM

    Comment #16

    Oooh …little Mr Grumpypuss…

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  • optimistic prime

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:51 PM

    Comment #18

    TS

    That poinyt has been made many times by many posters.

    IMO that’s what a lot of fans are already trying to do, the AO lot for instance had all their Ashley/Pardew out flyers done in those colours.

    I always thought the way to get his attention would be attack his baby SD obviously it’s no longer solely his company even if he runs it like a dodgy back street car dealer.

    Loads have said ST ticket money going down won’t bother him but do his shareholders really want to be associated with something that could be poisonous to SD as share prices would/should take a hit.

    He’s being hammered from all sides at the minute, us the Rangers fans Parliment the ch4 show on Monday, for someone who apparently likes his privacy his name and his companies name are being dragged through the mud.

    He can’t like that one little bit, and you’d think he would try to at least dampen the fires a bit.

    Our toon

    I get your point but wouldn’t appointing carver be to much of a risk concidering his record so far, if he sells I’m sure he’d want the max he could get, a team struggling under Carver with the natives screaming for his head wouldn’t be as appealing as a side playing good football and trying to compete.

    It would still sell but not for as much.

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  • BandB

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:52 PM

    Comment #19
  • beermonkey

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:52 PM

    Comment #20

    sage

    the last time there was unrest with Ashley we had the alleged threats to his kids
    not sure where it came from but there was never any proof
    so if he got wind of stuff outside I am sure he will do all he can to discredit any way he could

    he is answerable to no1 with the club but sd there is a board and shareholders which he answers to

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  • BandB

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:54 PM

    Comment #21

    Okay

    Volunteers to Ibiza at his email address please. Lots of you have advocated hitting Ashley at his shops, so no excuses.

    He will post it when he has stopped feeding his fat face.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:55 PM

    Comment #22

    258Jail for Ashley // Apr 22, 2015 at 9:14 PM

    welshgeordie9
    “There’s a difference between us three and some of the people on here, we don’t arse lick, and we dont agree on things for the sake of agreeing just in case you might upset somone in your group.”

    When did you ever say anything remotely noteworthy enough that someone might agree or disagree with it !

    Could say the same about you jail.

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  • Average_Contents

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:55 PM

    Comment #23

    TS

    Agree. Just putting it out there.

    What I will say is that little orphan Vernon is technically gifted. Just not flair wise. Pass and move wise (that’s why I mentioned Swansea) Not that we’ve seen it with us though.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:55 PM

    Comment #24

    OP

    I think the season ticket money would be a problem. We made a 19mil profit and ticket sales make up around 25/30 mil so surely nobody there would have an impact.

    Also as drinks and food are outsourced the company that provided these services would be piling on pressure too, or cutting their service if their profits dropped.

    Even if all this only makes a 1% difference it is a start and something to build on.

    The new planned protest of SD stores is fantastic.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:56 PM

    Comment #25

    Jeff…You have no idea mate. I’m trying to eat my eggs and beans on toast! No rest for the wicked.

    I see those fine folk down at ashleyout.com haven’t been resting either.

    Did anyone post a link yet?

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  • BandB

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:56 PM

    Comment #26

    It was shopping the other day.

    Whenever you need him he’s thinking about his belly…

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  • BandB

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:57 PM

    Comment #27
  • welshgeordie9

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:57 PM

    Comment #28

    How about you change your name from jail for ashley to i love ashley.

    You Know you want to.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:58 PM

    Comment #29

    Beer

    Very true, but I guess we could have members film the protests, post them to youtube to show a true reflection.

    Surely somebody involved will have a decent camera, even a phone camera will do.

    Average

    Yeh I get it. I think Anita just struggles with longer range passing so is a but redundant with us, but even still he has limited passing ability over 20 yards.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:59 PM

    Comment #30

    More garbage Jeff! She said I have a fat face! What do you think?

    https://twitter.com/IbizaToon/status/589750360895553537

    Nose is slightly big. Belfast reckons I have a Mr. Bean thumb, but a fat face?

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Apr 22, 2015 at 9:59 PM

    Comment #31

    It’s only 3 days to the next game .
    Where’s the Swansea#Boycott .
    Fingers out troops.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:00 PM

    Comment #32

    Anita wouldn’t even get on the swans bench never mind getting in the 1st team.

    Ha ha ha

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  • Mister Tuff

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:01 PM

    Comment #33

    Blackley – the only support you could get from the world at large would be members of your tag team – if I recall that is only 2.

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  • optimistic prime

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:02 PM

    Comment #34

    BandB/Ibiza

    Sign me up

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  • Ibizatoon

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:03 PM

    Comment #35

    ibizatoon2015@gmail.com

    Please include as the reference of your email which campaign it is you’re emailing about.

    #BoycottSwansea
    #StandUpToAshley
    #AshleyEmbargo

    Im expecting quite the response. Fun for all the family to be had. No reason to quabble. Let Ashley know what you think of him this weekend. What are we waiting to see?

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:03 PM

    Comment #36

    Ibiza…no bacon? Blaspheme!

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  • optimistic prime

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:03 PM

    Comment #37

    Back in a hour me telly shows on the telly

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  • beermonkey

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:04 PM

    Comment #38

    sage

    you read the new statement from AO there going to protest outside the shops

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  • Belfast

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:04 PM

    Comment #39

    That’s definitely Mr Beans hand not yours.

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  • Average_Contents

    Apr 22, 2015 at 10:06 PM

    Comment #40

    Ts

    Yeah, he’s not exactly a sprayer of the ball type. Short, sharp one twos, little triangles with fast movement I reckon would suit him down to the ground. Sadly that’s something we’ll never likely see. Johnny boy doesn’t even know what day it is.

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