Good News – Player And Coach Kiss And Make Up


In John Carver’s press conference yesterday there was the usual stuff – John said the players have been great in training, and he was asked about the situation with Jonas Gutierrez, who was surprisingly left out of the squad for the game against Spurs last Sunday, which we lose 3-1 – our sixth defeat on the trot to equal the record we set one year ago.

john carver and jonas gutieerez

Carver and Jonas before the bust up

It seems like there was a bust-up last week on the training field between the two – which John says happens all the time in football but they had met on Monday and sorted out their differences and the good news is that Jonas will be in the squad for tomorrow’s game – and we hope he starts in central midfield.

Jonas will be able to demonstrate the guts, passion and drive needed – and the Argentine could have a positive impact on our other players tomorrow too.

Anybody who comes through a fight with cancer successfully – by definition – has plenty of guts and drive just to have survived.

Carver This is some of that John said yesterday about Jonas at his news conference:

“There was a situation on the training ground which happens at every club, we’ve got together, had a conversation, shaken hands like two grown men and we’re moving on.

“Without going into too much detail because I think what happens on the training ground or dressing room stays there.

“As far as we’re both concerned he trained with us on Monday, we had a conversation, it was a private conversation, no hard feelings, we’ve shaken hands and moving on – he’s in the squad absolutely.”

With all the animosity going on at the moment surrounding the club – mainly directed towards Mike Ashley – it’s good that these things are sorted out.

The very last thing we want are problems between the interim coach and the players – things are bad enough as they are at the moment.

A win is  what we really need tomorrow against Swansea, to lift the depressing mood around the club,  but not many of our readers see that happening.

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28 comments so far

  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Apr 24, 2015 at 9:31 AM

    Comment #1

    That tends to confirm what my source, who has a connection on the inside, said. It was a training ground bust up where jonas lambasted Carver’s training.

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  • optimistic prime

    Apr 24, 2015 at 9:31 AM

    Comment #2

    Dropping one of the most hard working and probably most effective isn’t very professional at all.

    If it happens all the time a half hr cool of period would have been enough for the red mist to clear.

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  • Wayayman

    Apr 24, 2015 at 9:32 AM

    Comment #3

    Nothing I read or hear from Carver endears me to him. Similarly nothing I read or hear from the club endears me to it.

    I read that email from NUST yesterday, its some shocking rap sheet!
    For those who haven’t seen it, have a read of this…

    From http://www.nust.org.uk/

    [quote] “So here are a few issues which weigh on the minds of Newcastle United supporters as they consider boycotting a football match, for which many have already paid:

    Is Newcastle United a well-run club under Mike Ashley?

    Commercial income from sponsorship lower in 2015 than it was when Ashley took over;
    Income from corporate customers reduced;
    Income from merchandise (e.g. shirts) reduced;
    Match-day revenue from season tickets reduced;
    Only increase in income provided by new TV deals which Ashley played no part in negotiating;
    50% increase in club debt since 2007;
    Sale of lease on land at Strawberry Place for approx £4m with monies expected not to be returned to Newcastle United;
    Sale of lease resulting in only part of St James’ Park available to be extended ending any potential expansion of the stadium;
    Unexplained increase of £26m in operating costs in yet-to-be published accounts from 13/14.
    Has Newcastle United done well on the pitch under Mike Ashley?

    One relegation (2008/09);
    One top-half PL finish in eight years;
    Not gone past the quarter-final of any Cup competition in eight years;
    Defeated by Stevenage, Brighton (x2), Cardiff (h) and Leicester (a) in the FAC 3rd Round;
    Clear statement from Lee Charnley, the club’s Managing Director, that Newcastle United considers Cup competitions to be of little priority;
    Five successive derby defeats – the worst in NUFC history.
    Appointments, resignations and dismissals

    Dismissal of Sam Allardyce as Manager and award of £6m in compensation;
    Appointed Denis Wise as Director of Football;
    Appointed Kevin Keegan as Manager despite extended period out of football and admission he had not watched a PL game in more than three years;
    Appointed Joe Kinnear as Manager resulting in relegation;
    Appointed Joe Kinnear as Director of Football. Held the position for 6 months before being dismissed;
    Resignation of Kevin Keegan as manager and subsequent legal judgement vindicating the former Manager and finding that Ashley, Wise, and Llambias had lied to supporters;
    Dismissal of Chris Hughton who delivered promotion and stabilised club in PL;
    Failure to appoint Alan Shearer as Manager as previously stated and poor treatment thereafter;
    Appointment of Lee Charnley as Managing Director despite little or no experience in a similar role;
    Appointment of Lee Marshall as Supporters Liaison Officer whose primary role appears to be assisting the Head of Media and Public Relations;
    Failure to plan for the succession to Alan Pardew leaving the club.
    Academy

    Failure to be accredited Cat A status for the Academy in first round of assessments due to alleged lack of investment in appropriately qualified coaching staff;
    Took NUFC two years longer than Blackburn Rovers and Stoke City to achieve Cat A status for the Academy;
    No players brought through the Academy to become established first team regulars in eight years since the Ashley takeover in 2007;
    No update on plans to redevelop the Newcastle United Academy as outlined by Joe Kinnear in 2013. The work was forecast to start in May 2015.
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    Loan shark company Wonga on the shirt;
    Ashley refusing to meet Newcastle Central MP Chi Onwurah and brusque treatment from Lee Charnley;
    Disclosure of Managing Director Derek Llambias’ abusive behaviour towards Newcastle City Council Leader, Nick Forbes;
    Mike Ashley discussing the imminent sacking of Alan Pardew outside a pub in London;
    Treatment of Jonas Gutierrez following disclosure of his testicular cancer and being told to find another club by Alan Pardew;
    Banning of all local press and persistent banning of numerous journalists for covering the issues of concern to supporters;
    Expulsion of the Newcastle United Supporters Trust from the Fans Forum for no credible reason.

    Apart from that… [/quote]

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Apr 24, 2015 at 9:32 AM

    Comment #4

    Jonas went ballistic and told Carver how shit he is.

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  • Lindisfarne

    Apr 24, 2015 at 9:33 AM

    Comment #5

    Rather than being Pardewed may be the players suffer being Carved up!

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  • mindshaft

    Apr 24, 2015 at 9:37 AM

    Comment #6

    B&B – well, it’s obvious your source is wrong – Carver said himself that that his training sessions are amazing and sponsors can’t believe what they are seeing

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  • cyprus

    Apr 24, 2015 at 9:38 AM

    Comment #7

    1949,
    though I started this I didn’t want to continue to pick on the lad…you are using those stats to your benefit mate; How about this: Arma: 13 appearances, 0 goals. Rivi 18, 0 goals. Facundo, 0, 0.

    Total from all three: 0

    Hhhm. And one of them looks a better 0 than the rest 😉

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  • one fine day

    Apr 24, 2015 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #8

    Not sure if anyone has linked this already earlier so apologies if they have.
    Bit of support from our Scouse brothers
    Really like the idea of not one wonga shirt visible in the crowd
    Well those unfortunate to have bought one in the first place .
    Maybe take it further and the Ashley out lads can produce a sticker to perfectly cover the hideous blue logo.
    What better way to show the salad dodger who really runs nufc?
    If we don’t like the ethics of who sponsor we will sponsor ourselves and free of charge to

    http://www.themag.co.uk/2015/04/liverpool-fans-back-newcastle-supporters-against-mike-ashley/

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  • mindshaft

    Apr 24, 2015 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #9

    Wayayman – not sure we can count failure to appoint AS as manager against Fatty – The Shearer/Dowie combo wasn’t much better than Carver /Stone
    Everything else is pretty much spot on though

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Apr 24, 2015 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #10

    Wayayman
    That’s the way to do it. Is NUST putting this rap sheet to the club for a response? They need to keep plugging it until they get a major reaction.

    Can OurToon comment on what if anything the accounts tell us about the lease transactions?

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  • Our Toon

    Apr 24, 2015 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #11

    I’d imagine training hasn’t changed much since pards left.

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  • Lindisfarne

    Apr 24, 2015 at 9:42 AM

    Comment #12

    Armstrong———-Perez
    ————Cabella
    Sammy—-Colback—-Abeid
    Anita—Collo—Janmaat—Kemen
    ————Woodman

    Give the youngster a start, admittedly the goalie is probably a no go.

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  • Our Toon

    Apr 24, 2015 at 9:42 AM

    Comment #13

    Blackley

    How you doing mate, what is it you want me to comment on?

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  • Zero

    Apr 24, 2015 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #14

    Blackley,

    It wouldn’t surprise me if that was true about Jonas telling the truth about training… he has nothing to lose since they will not be renewing his contract.

    It is also in line with apparent statements (stuff was claimed on the blog a while back, never saw the reports personally) made by previous players on NUFC training sessions being substandard.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Apr 24, 2015 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #15

    Cyprus,
    Using that logic maybe you or I should go up front! I also have played 0 and scored 0 for NUFC this season?

    Surely the reason he hasn’t played, and this has been backed up by his poor performances at Under 21 level, is that he just simply doesn’t cut it?

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  • Our Toon

    Apr 24, 2015 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #16

    Lindisfarne

    Put Colback at LB and Anita at RB with young Kemen in CM. Not seen the youngster play but heard some very good things about him

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  • Jeff from Benwell

    Apr 24, 2015 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #17

    Liverpool Billy Williams fan sends message of support to AO and gives advice on how to cover up wonga logo.

    Ha Ha Ha

    The Liverpool Sponsor
    https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=standard+chartered+fined+%24327+million

    Let me think for a sec which is worse – pay day loan sharks or a bank fined for laundering Islamic terrorist money.

    Pot Kettle springs to mind

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Apr 24, 2015 at 9:46 AM

    Comment #18

    I only have one thing to say and it’s not so eloquent but ‘screw you Carver and screw the players ‘!

    ….what’s important are the fans and the community! It is the only thing that never changes…you guys come and go and are paid to be here!

    Don’t get me started on you Mr. Ashley and your Mini-me!

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  • Zero

    Apr 24, 2015 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #19

    What ever happened to Bigi? I always thought he was preforming better than Ameobi but hes dropped off the map… is he one of the Rangers 5?

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Apr 24, 2015 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #20

    Wayayman,
    Failure to appoint Shearer? We would still be languishing in the Championship with him in charge. He had interviews for several Championship jobs after us, but didn’t get a single job offer. I’m more than happy if he sticks to his MoTD sofa, and never manages again.

    Sacking of Sam Allardyce and awarding of compensation? Compensation is thanks to the ludicrous contract Shepherd gave him, and I seem to remember most fans wanting Allardyce out.

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  • beermonkey

    Apr 24, 2015 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #21

    Wayayman

    I would add to that very long list of crimes

    the way we conduct our transfer business and the damage that has done
    I forget the name of the club but its the one run by the rather mad fella he in public called us thieves

    we could have had france sewn up as a place to buy all we had to do was be fair
    think of the marketing we had nearly a 3rd of the French national side if we had played some friendlies

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  • Our Toon

    Apr 24, 2015 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #22

    Jeff

    Nothing Islamic about them terrorists mate, they are just terrorists.

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  • one fine day

    Apr 24, 2015 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #23

    Seen a few line ups posted today and while I like lindesfarne and go with youth I think that’s something we can tinker with once safe .
    When we sat pretty in January I was hoping we would start to give all the kids a couple of games to see how hungry they were for a contract.wanted to Satka and bigi and vukic all get a run .
    Sadly through injuries and appalling discipline the seniors and purples have let us down .don’t even mention the rangers debacle
    I fear that while the busby babes was pure romance we will end up with carvers carnage.
    Befour I am shot down but why not give gouff a run up front.?
    I mean that’s what we bought him as.
    I am as pisxxed as the next guy watching him simply wandering in midfield / loosing the ball but play him in his correct position. I mean it’s not like we are dropping a 20 goal striker to accommodate him.
    A simple ultimatum for him … Get goals or it’s back to France in the summer

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  • one fine day

    Apr 24, 2015 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #24

    Seen a few line ups posted today and while I like lindesfarne and go with youth I think that’s something we can tinker with once safe .
    When we sat pretty in January I was hoping we would start to give all the kids a couple of games to see how hungry they were for a contract.wanted to Satka and bigi and vukic all get a run .
    Sadly through injuries and appalling discipline the seniors and purples have let us down .don’t even mention the rangers debacle
    I fear that while the busby babes was pure romance we will end up with carvers carnage.
    Before I am shot down but why not give gouff a run up front.?
    I mean that’s what we bought him as.
    I am as pisxxed as the next guy watching him simply wandering in midfield / loosing the ball but play him in his correct position. I mean it’s not like we are dropping a 20 goal striker to accommodate him.
    A simple ultimatum for him … Get goals or it’s back to France in the summer

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  • one fine day

    Apr 24, 2015 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #25

    Zero
    Yes bigi is one of the rangers five and yet to be freed
    Pretty sure he is injured though and has been even before the loan deal .
    Seems only vukic is making an impact

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Apr 24, 2015 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #26

    OurToon
    The charges include dirty dealings on lease transactions. How, if at all, have they affected the balance sheet? Can the accounts shed any light?

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  • Lindisfarne

    Apr 24, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #27

    Our Toon

    I just think two central defenders who are comfortable on the ball is preferable to playing a brick. Which means the right back slot becomes available which has always traditionally be used to blood youngsters.

    Despite your reservations Colback does perform better in midfield and if he was dedicated to covering the defense Abeid could tbe given the opportunity to be more attacking. Anita has looked more able at LB despite still making mistakes, but needs must and Sammy has the frame for a midfielder rather than a speedy winger.

    Perez can not be left up front on his own and a solid defensive, ball playing unit allows the front three to interchange, create spaces and use their physique to their advantage.

    No doubt we will resort to long balls to a single isolated front man, work really hard and get nothing for a great deal of effort.

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  • lochinvar

    Apr 24, 2015 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #28

    Only yesterday Carver was talking about how wonderful the training was and that the sponsors loved it and that it was a pity that no one could see what was going on.
    Today he talks about the bust up with Jonas….at the training ground ?
    Clearly Carver is clueless.
    How did the song go, ” look what they’ve done to our club , Ma ” ( Melanie I think )

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