We have to admit that we’re just a little nervous at the moment because with the latest news it seems that there are only two candidates for the Newcastle job, in Steve McClaren and John Caber, so we are hoping Steve McClaren is available.
Steve McClaren – not interested in Newcastle job?
But in his press conference yesterday Steve was asked about the Newcastle links and he said some surprising things:
“I’ve got a contract here for the next two years after this and I hope to honor that contract but it is football….that might change, who knows.”
“I haven’t got a clue if I am a candidate for the Newcastle job, I think there was no secret that there was an interest in December and January and we talked about that in press conferences, and in the end they didn’t have a manager then.”
“What they did was appoint a manager – John Carver – and that’s what they have got, he is fighting for the job.”
“While somebody is in a job it is a little bit disrespectful…disrespectful to John Carver, to Newcastle, and my focus is purely on Derby.”
“This is newspapers and they speculate, at the present moment Newcastle doesn’t interest me, I’m not thinking about that. I’m thinking solely of Derby.”
So if Derby County are promoted and Steve doesn’t accept the Newcastle job, maybe he really doesn’t want it – then it looks like John Carver would be the new head coach.
If that happens it would scare the living daylights out of us, and how low are Mike Ashley’s ambitions for Newcastle?
If we do appoint John Carver we will be one of the favorites for relegation from the Premier League next season, because for one thing Newcastle would find it very difficult to attract good players to Tyneside.
John who?
But we cannot believe John Carver will get the job of head coach – but he certainly wouldn’t rock the boat.
Comments welcome.
220 comments so far
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Apr 24, 2015 at 9:48 AM
Comment #1I only have one thing to say and it’s not so eloquent but ‘screw you Carver and screw the players ‘!
….what’s important are the fans and the community! It is the only thing that never changes…you guys come and go and are paid to be here!
Don’t get me started on you Mr. Ashley and your Mini-me!
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Apr 24, 2015 at 9:49 AM
Comment #2Ed and everyone else…can we drop the act about SM not and just face reality?
…makes it easier to move forward and progress!
Lilongwe Geordie
Apr 24, 2015 at 9:50 AM
Comment #3Lilongwe Geordie // Apr 24, 2015 at 9:48 AM
Wayayman,
Failure to appoint Shearer? We would still be languishing in the Championship with him in charge. He had interviews for several Championship jobs after us, but didn’t get a single job offer. I’m more than happy if he sticks to his MoTD sofa, and never manages again.
Sacking of Sam Allardyce and awarding of compensation? Compensation is thanks to the ludicrous contract Shepherd gave him, and I seem to remember most fans wanting Allardyce out.
Jeff from Benwell
Apr 24, 2015 at 9:53 AM
Comment #4It is Carver nailed on.
A big clearout in Summer.
Make a few eye-catching signings
and a lot of bargains.
A nice successful preseason
Start all over with a clean bill of health
midweek weekend
Apr 24, 2015 at 9:54 AM
Comment #5Carver gets the job then oh well we’re well and truly f#%£ed
hibbit
Apr 24, 2015 at 9:54 AM
Comment #6i have asked for weeks why would steve mc come to newcastle to work in a straight jacket take a pay cut and be a puppet to this lot why
headtheball
Apr 24, 2015 at 9:56 AM
Comment #7Ed man
Why don’t we toss the caber!
Brilliant.
HWTF
Viva La Causa
Zero
Apr 24, 2015 at 9:57 AM
Comment #8Jeff,
Im not sure to be happy with that estimation… if Carver gets the job im sure we will be know as the Entertainers… but most likely for all the wrong reasons.
Im curious as to how much money will be invested to do a rebuild, or if we are going to just paper over the cracks again.
headtheball
Apr 24, 2015 at 9:57 AM
Comment #9Sorry Caber
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:00 AM
Comment #10*not = now
Our Toon
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:00 AM
Comment #11I have said since January that Carver will get the job full time. Bringing a new man on board would mean minimum 3 year deal and if as I suspect MA will look to sell before 2016/17 season starts it’ll be less attractive as new owners always want there own men. (All hunch)
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:03 AM
Comment #12hibbit…I have asked for months why certain people keep going on about SM coming here just because hr knows Carr!
kakaobi
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:05 AM
Comment #13So only 1 man in the running now even though he’s 9/1 with sky bet
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:06 AM
Comment #14Our Toon…if Ashley is selling compensation paid out to the manager is not his problem!
…how long is Carvers’ contract again? 😉
cyprus
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:06 AM
Comment #15How many guessed KK, JFK, AP, Shearer would be manager?
The new manager is not on the radar, I’d bet. Someone like Laudrup, Hoddle, someone who has quietly put in his CV among those 60 others. Mc Laren hasn’t, so he ain’t a candidate.
All hunches 🙂
And how come there’s only 1 guy left on this earth Ed? That Caber guy? What happened to the 60 applications?
Jeff from Benwell
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:07 AM
Comment #16Zero
The playing staff needs a huge shake up
Where tf is Tiote !
We need a goal scoring striker who isn’t always injured or suspended !
The back 4 situation has been discussed ad nauseum !
All of this is not of Carvers making
Give him a 6 month rolling contract and bin him in Autumn if he screws up.
Toon Tang
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:08 AM
Comment #17Doesn’t interest me either Steve.
Chuck in an SD mug though and I’ll see what I can do.
one fine day
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:09 AM
Comment #18Repost due to ed on rapid fire
Seen a few line ups posted today and while I like lindesfarne and go with youth I think that’s something we can tinker with once safe .
When we sat pretty in January I was hoping we would start to give all the kids a couple of games to see how hungry they were for a contract.wanted to Satka and bigi and vukic all get a run .
Sadly through injuries and appalling discipline the seniors and purples have let us down .don’t even mention the rangers debacle
I fear that while the busby babes was pure romance we will end up with carvers carnage.
Before I am shot down but why not give gouff a run up front.?
I mean that’s what we bought him as.
I am as pisxxed as the next guy watching him simply wandering in midfield / loosing the ball but play him in his correct position. I mean it’s not like we are dropping a 20 goal striker to accommodate him.
A simple ultimatum for him … Get goals or it’s back to France in the summer
Nattfare
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:09 AM
Comment #19Zero,
Will take some serious papering over with Carver in charge. Will probably replace leaving players with lesser ones again.
Debuchy – Janmaat
Cabaye – Colback
Ben Arfa – Cabella
Ba/Remy – Riviere/Perez
Out of those four I’d say only Janmaat has been at least as good or better than whom he replaced.
Perez is promising of course but he really is struggling under our “game plan”.
Makes me wonder what kind of replacements they could find for Gouffran, Dummet, Williamson or Sammy.
Blackley and Brownlie
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM
Comment #20OurToon
The charges include dirty dealings on lease transactions. How, if at all, have they affected the balance sheet? Can the accounts shed any light on those transactions? I’m not sure where the club is at on that?
Lilongwe Geordie
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM
Comment #21OFD,
Bigi isn’t injured, he has an unspecified medical condition that under SFA rules he is prohibited from playing. No idea what the condition is, but he was able to play in England with the condition, so I’m sure a bit of digging in the right place would give hints.
Our Toon
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM
Comment #22Jesper
It is on the mind of new owners though and a club on the market with a manager who doesn’t need a big pay off is more lucrative than a club with a manager on a long term deal and on good money.
Think Allardyce when MA took control and the amount it cost him to replace him. Makes perfect business sense.
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM
Comment #23Cyprus…I am never going to count Shearer as our manager and not even SAF could have saved us back then…
…it wad point of no return after Ashley screwed up big time and JFK send us to relegation!
People just seem to forget very quickly (at least the details)
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:12 AM
Comment #24Our Toon…I have never seen that being a problem anywhere else?
…what do you think compensation will be 😉
I think the problem selling Newcastle is something entirely different!
Nattfare
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:13 AM
Comment #25I think Bigi was down with Pardewsitis before and only to be rid of it in time to get Carvemonia.
Lilongwe Geordie
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:14 AM
Comment #26Jesper,
Had JFK kept the role and continued picking up the points at the same rate we would have stayed up.
WWSBRD
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:16 AM
Comment #27Lil
pretty sure Bigi was unable to play in England, am sure I read an interview with him saying he moved to Rangers because he thought the rules were different in Scotland so he could play
jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:17 AM
Comment #28Lilongwe…and in what world wad that going to happen?
I don’t kid myself for a living you know. Shearer had 10 games or so to work wonders!
I admire Shearer but he’s only human.
Nattfare
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:18 AM
Comment #29Would? JFK kept us up that season. He also won manager of the year, saved JFK from assassination and was given the key to the town of Jokkmokk… or was it Haparanda?
Our Toon
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:18 AM
Comment #30Blackley
The lease transactions don’t come under the accounts published by NUFC, unlike most I don’t believe he’s bleeding the club dry or taking between 10m / 30m. It can be hidden with great accountants but in all reality what you see is what you get. The biggest concern is what intellectual property will remain as part of nufc once he goes? The land surrounding SJP and as with Rangers the badge etc, will all this become MA’s.
Unfortunately with accounts of any sorts it’s not black and white or clear as day.
Pokat
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:19 AM
Comment #31Creeeeeeaaaakkkkkk and the big accounts ledger is opened again yawn yawny yawn yawn. So Blackley, your solution to nufc problems please! And you jeff you can chip in too
Moonraker15
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:19 AM
Comment #32Ed
You pulled out one statement from the press conference ” not interested in Newcastle” but if you’d pulled out ” I have a contract at Derby but things could change” then you would have a whole different story wouldn’t you?
Let’s wait and see what happens but if it’s Carver we ARE f@@@ed !
Wayayman
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:22 AM
Comment #33Lilongwe, that list I posted on the previous thread was from NUST, not my list!
I agree re Shearer and Allardyce (but it was Ashley’s decision to sack him leading to the enormous pay off)
Anyway, after recent events I’m shocked that the club have tried nothing to appease us. You’d think anyone who really understands the situation would at least put out a press release saying they were considering the options – and not in the passive-aggressive tone that Charnley’s statements have been recently.
It just serves to further illustrate the contempt they hold us fans in.
Moonraker15
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:23 AM
Comment #34Omg when you think what our club COULD be with all this money rolling in and look what’s going on its almost unreal!
Our Toon
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:23 AM
Comment #35Jesper
Never said it was a problem elsewhere buddy but a new owner will want his own man and MA being a successful business man knows the club sells itself but he also knows that nufc with let’s say carver on a 12 month deal sounds better than McClaren on a 4 year deal.
It’s a sweetener for any deal!!
Pokat
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:23 AM
Comment #36Aye moonraker but if he pulled out ” I haven’t got a clue ” from that article it could be sm or jc really lol
one fine day
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:23 AM
Comment #37Lilongwe
Serious on the bigi thing?
So what bizzare Scottish rule ?
A refusal to eat a deep fried cream egg/lion bar/mars?
Surely his injury has to be listed by the club/ rangers ?
Forgive my ignorance here but wouldn’t both English and Scottish clubs all just come under rules as set by Uefa with this sort of thing?
Lilongwe Geordie
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:24 AM
Comment #38WWSBRD,
No, he was able to play in England and didn’t think the rules would be different. That is why he had been playing for our Under 21’s.
Jesper,
Sorry, don’t get you on that? What do you mean in what world would that happen? JFK picked up 20points in 18 games. Shearer picked up 6 points in the last 10 games. We went down by a point. Based on their records, JFK would have kept us up, Shearer took us down.
Jeff from Benwell
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:25 AM
Comment #39Jesper mentioning JFK reminded me of Ashleys Xmas and New Year message in a programme of the time – in the light of recent affairs it makes interesting reading (by the way we lost to Lpool 1-5)
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“As we come to the end of the year, I hope each and every one of you Newcastle United fans inside St.James’ Park today has enjoyed a very merry Christmas – and that you all go home smiling today after a win against Liverpool to end 2008 on a high.
“Nobody would pretend the last few months have not been difficult for all of us connected with Newcastle United following Kevin Keegan’s departure in September. But I’ve always seen New Year as a time to look forward and not back and now is the time for everyone who holds the club dear to their hearts to do just that.
“On the pitch things have certainly been going well of late. I’m writing this for you before the game at Wigan but Joe Kinnear and the boys were on a six game unbeaten run going into the Boxing Day match and with 5,000 travelling fans behind them they’ll have been going flat out for another win.
“When we turned to Joe in late September we did so in the hope his vast experience would help us out of the tough position we were in. I offered him the post on a short-term basis at first, he accepted without hesitation and after raising spirits and steadying the ship, I thought it was only right to hand him a longer contract.
It took away any uncertainty around Joe and now away from the pitch, I am happy to end the uncertainty fans may have had about the future direction of Newcastle United. I know just how important that is to you.
“I have withdrawn Newcastle United from the market, and for me 2009 will be the year in which we drive the Club forward together. Even when I haven’t been at games I have remained a keen supporter, kicking and heading every ball and cheering the team on TV and being the first to congratulate Joe whenever there’s a good result.
“When I took the decision to put the Club up for sale in September I made a point of saying two things were very important.
“Firstly, any potential buyer would have to show they had the best interests of Newcastle United at heart and had both the commitment and finance to be worthy custodians of such a fine football club before I would even consider doing a deal.
“And secondly, I gave you my word that as long as I remain owner, this Club would continue to be run responsibly at all levels. I hope you will accept that I have stood by that pledge.
“When I bought Newcastle United I was always committed to developing and investing in our youth structure and that has continued. Now our Academy side sit top of the table after a long winning streak and retain an interest in the FA Youth Cup.
“And it goes further, as the launch of our School Skills Programme will see over 100,000 children in Newcastle and North Tyneside receive the benefit of expert coaching as we look to develop the stars of the future. The North East has produced some great talents down the years but they haven’t always been picked up first by our club and I want that to change.
“I am the first to accept there have been times this season when you would have liked to have heard more from me direct, particularly at certain points. There have been reasons why I have not have been able to do that, but in the new year we will look to communicate with you more about what we are doing at St.James’ Park, be it through the club’s official website, programme and magazine as well as the wider media.
“On the subject of the Press, I have been in discussion with News Group Newspapers Ltd. with regards to a story published in the Sun about me in September whilst I was in New York. Those discussions haven’t settled this matter so I have had to sue them.
“I am no different to you when it comes to having a private life so when I am a guest at a party I think I should be left in peace and not expect to see my picture splashed all over the front of a national newspaper.
“For the record, at the time I was in New York I still believed Kevin and everyone else, including myself, could still resolve things and continue working together at Newcastle United. I did not throw a party and I certainly wasn’t celebrating Kevin’s departure, nor did I pay a huge bar bill or travel to the States by private jet.
“As well as fighting to protect my privacy I wanted you supporters to know what happened. I would still hope the matter can be settled and I would donate any monies paid to me to the Newcastle United Foundation. There are no legal costs for Newcastle United to cover in this matter as it is about my privacy as an individual.
“Back to football, and with the January transfer window approaching, we’ll be working closely with Joe to see what can be done to strengthen the squad. With the FA Cup still to come and this Barclays Premier League being one of the tightest anyone can remember, there is still lots to play for between now and May.
“We’ve seen how quickly you can climb up the table after the wins against Portsmouth and Tottenham Hotspur – and by the way, I wish I had a pound for every time I’ve had to tell people I’m NOT a Spurs fan and never will be!
“When I looked at the table after the Spurs win I saw we were only five points off a top six place, so great credit to Joe, his coaches and the players for that. And if, like me, you like a gamble now and again then what price a flutter on us reaching that top six?
“It’s time to look forwards and upwards. And I sincerely hope all supporters of Newcastle United will see the New Year as a new start in many ways.
“Have a Happy New Year and wherever you are celebrating I hope you have a cracking night!”
nufc 11
Apr 24, 2015 at 10:25 AM
Comment #40Was it not common knowledge that the club didnt appoint a manager in jan to open the market up come summer time that wed have more canidates? The right man wasnt availible? Now we are told only 2 men are availble for the job are they fcuking the mikey or what lieing pack of useless incompetants.