Head Coach Has To Grow A Much Thicker Skin


John Carver has come out and said he wants protection from the club so he is not abused by fans when he is in the dug-out, but we remember well big Sam Allardyce when he was being brutally abused by fans at St. James’ Park and he looked straight ahead and sucked it up – and all he would say after he was abused was that the fans were entitled to their opinions.

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John Carver – needs to grow a thicker skin

And we didn’t ever hear Alan Pardew ask for protection,  and he took some huge criticism from the fans and sometimes the criticism was simply brutal, and he never once complained at his press conferences about the fans being dead against him.

We’re sure he didn’t like it but he didn’t make it a big thing either.

But John Carver has asked for protection:

“Let’s put it this way, it has not been easy.” “I knew it wouldn’t be easy. Sometimes it is quite difficult to stand in that technical area and be abused the way I was abused today without any protection from the sidelines.”

“That is the reason I moved back. I am not going to stand out there and be abused during the game. The club has to do something about it.” “I said to the two lads who were abusing me: Come and see me afterwards and I will explain to you what I am trying to do.”

“They expect me to put the ball in the net, stop the headers going in, stop the opposition from scoring.” “I can’t affect that. I can’t get on the end of the corner and head the ball clear which would have kept us one up at half time. I can’t do that.”

“That is the first time I have had that. Just totally getting abused throughout the whole of the second half and I am not accepting that. I don’t think it is right. No one should put up with that.”

“We have stewards there and some of them just watch the game.” “I’d like to see those two guys again and explain to them why I have had to do what I have done.” “I think if they sat with me and understood where I was coming from they would understand the whole situation.”

“Yet when they are blaring at you for 45 minutes it is very difficult.” “One of the lads said to me: “Are you threatening me?” I said no, come and see me afterwards and I will explain to you.”

“He obviously thought I was threatening. There was no way in the world I was doing that. I did that once before (Southampton) and I said then I’d not get involved in something like that again and I ain’t.”

“I would like to explain to those two lads. Love them to come to the training ground, have a cup of tea, sit in a room and talk about it.” “I would be interested to see what they have to say, know what their thoughts are and then they might understand what I am going through and they might understand, it is as simple as that.”

This is probably the first time a Newcastle manager has asked for protection in the dugout.

John complaining about being abused is a sign of his  inexperience, and that he has never been near a job as big as the head coach of Newcastle United.

The Newcastle manager (head coach) job is a really tough job – John Carver has said it’s the toughest in football – so if that’s the case then of course he’s going to get some heavy criticism – especially when he loses seven games in a row – it’s all part of having a big job.

You cannot on the one hand say you have the toughest job in football and then complain when you get abused and criticized – that’s part of why it’s the toughest job in football.

We’re not saying it’s good – it’s just the way it works.

When you do well you will get the compliments and when things go wrong you will get sometimes very unfair criticism – but that’s just how it is – and the bigger the job the more criticism you will get.

It’s a fact of life.

President Obama is the leader of the free world – and he gets more criticism than I’ve ever known anybody get – ever.

John needs to grow a thicker skin and he gets too upset when people insult him – he needs to get used to it – rather than complain about it publicly.

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60 comments so far

  • optimistic prime

    Apr 26, 2015 at 11:35 PM

    Comment #1

    Boo hoo the call me names

    Buy some ear plugs you fairy

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  • lesh

    Apr 26, 2015 at 11:41 PM

    Comment #2

    He wants protection from the fans?

    Does Carver never question why he’s getting fan criticism?

    He’s set himself up for it by blindly setting himself up ad the patsy for Ashley. He’d have been better keeping his trap shut and not bigging himself up for the HC job and naivley defending the owner’s actions.

    Had he just got on with things, doing his best, he might have gained fan sympathy, but no, he’s getting the flak cos he’s been Ashley’s mouthpiece.

    He’s been used and any Chief Exec would have advised him to keep quiet.

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  • Mint

    Apr 26, 2015 at 11:43 PM

    Comment #3

    Its all me me me this guy. Getting very tired of his attitude.

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  • lesh

    Apr 26, 2015 at 11:45 PM

    Comment #4

    That’s the way John. Help Ashley portray the fans as nasty people.

    Not a bright move, he’s been manipulated again, a pawn in their move to bedevil the fans.

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  • ToonMatt

    Apr 26, 2015 at 11:46 PM

    Comment #5

    He’s pathetic and he makes me cringe, I have absolutely no respect for a Man who claims to be a fan of this club yet will go out of his way to defend a Man who is clearly abusing and destroying the club, He keeps mentioning Sir Bobby? Would Sir Bobby defend Mike Ashley if he was still with us today? Would he hell, John you are a cretin and an embarrassment to this club, Using the C word in front of kids? What an absolute scumbag you are.

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  • Average_Contents

    Apr 26, 2015 at 11:46 PM

    Comment #6

    Honest john. He’s now the victim in all of this.

    Bullshit bishop in full flow. Dear god who believes this guff?

    He was also asked if fan criticism for the 7 straight defeats warranted it. He said no.

    I say your fcuking deluded.

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  • Alternative Headline

    Apr 26, 2015 at 11:49 PM

    Comment #7

    I’d like to see those two guys again and explain to them why I have had to do what I have done.” “I think if they sat with me and understood where I was coming from they would understand the whole situation.”
    lets make this happen, anyone know these guys ?

    I thought he said he could take it ?
    just go you plank.

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  • optimistic prime

    Apr 26, 2015 at 11:51 PM

    Comment #8

    Any questions you’d like asked lads?

    I think I’ll try my luck of a brew and a chat at the traing ground.

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  • lesh

    Apr 26, 2015 at 11:53 PM

    Comment #9

    Did Keegan ever get abuse from his own fans?

    Maybe it was because of the way he sold himself to the fans that helped him gain support.

    Think about it John, tell Charnley that you understand the fans’ frustrations and the reasons for them and that it’s a job that’s just a bit big for you, withdrawing your application for the HC job.

    The fans might just warm to you.

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  • MacToon

    Apr 26, 2015 at 11:58 PM

    Comment #10

    He’s clearly not up to the job in more ways than one.
    It’s Ashley again who has failed us though by not knowing any better and by not employing competent people to run the club.
    It was years ago we were crying out for a football man like Arsenal’s Dein to run the club.
    Also,why didn’t he appoint a coach to help Carver, amateurs at every level.

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  • Average_Contents

    Apr 27, 2015 at 12:01 AM

    Comment #11

    No TP

    I’m waiting for the slug to fcukoff.

    You seem to think that because the slug is the main culprit it’s perfectly fine for honest john or any other twat he decides to employ to be free from criticism. It’s not.

    WE KNOW ASHLEY IS THE PROBLEM. It still doesn’t make it Ok for a man to sell out and betray the very club he keeps reminding us all he loves.

    I couldn’t give a fcuk if he’s a geordie or not and has been here x amount of years be it on and off. He’s backed this vile regime and defended it so deserves everything he gets.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Apr 27, 2015 at 12:08 AM

    Comment #12

    AC,

    Then your wrong.

    This club will only heal when Ashley and his structures change.

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  • Average_Contents

    Apr 27, 2015 at 12:08 AM

    Comment #13

    That’s not to say I shall be transferring my disgust to honest john from the slug. Anything but.

    I know, and have said for years that the slug is the cancer eating away at the club and until he’s gone nothing will change.

    It still doesn’t make it right what “honest I can do the job” john’s done though does it. Backing the regime ect ect. He’s merely a symptom of the disease. It still shouldn’t make him untouchable.

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  • Average_Contents

    Apr 27, 2015 at 12:09 AM

    Comment #14

    Wrong about what?

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Apr 27, 2015 at 12:10 AM

    Comment #15

    Ciaran

    Please share a few of your doobies with charva. He needs to chill.

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  • Belfast

    Apr 27, 2015 at 12:12 AM

    Comment #16

    Blokes a heed case, half Kinnear half Mike Basset crossbreed

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Apr 27, 2015 at 12:15 AM

    Comment #17

    I don’t care what Carver says about Ashley. Carver’s shown he can’t get the players to give anywhere like 100% despite guaranteeing it. He’s now not guaranteeing it.

    Why aren’t the players giving him 100%. Because they haven’t any confidence or belief in him, I’d suggest. Neither have I the way he sets them out. Clearly Jonas is so mad with him that he exploded.

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  • Average_Contents

    Apr 27, 2015 at 12:23 AM

    Comment #18

    TP

    If you decide to enlighten me as to what I’m wrong about and clearly your right about in your humble opinion of course, I shall reply tomorrow.

    Work time.

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  • stuart no9

    Apr 27, 2015 at 12:26 AM

    Comment #19

    Hahahahaha , 40 odd thousand at the game and “2 LADS ” abused him ? Your a lucky man carver if only 2 LADS abused you all game . F@@k off carver your a joke and no one wants you at the club coz your Shyte .. 2 lads , hahahahaha. Whimp

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Apr 27, 2015 at 12:32 AM

    Comment #20

    AC

    Erm, concentrate, how this football squad is supposed to finish above tenth. But hey, its all the managers fault bah.

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  • Sav

    Apr 27, 2015 at 12:43 AM

    Comment #21

    Turtle heed is looking to retreat into his shell. Never heard of a manager such as Carver for taking absolute zero blame for the mess he’s in charge of. He should be reminded Swansea had scored from only two set plays all season. Our defending is shambolic. Whose fault is that JC?

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  • Sav

    Apr 27, 2015 at 12:46 AM

    Comment #22

    Not encouraged by the announcement Riviere will definitely start against Leicester. Clearly, JC is SO relieved he has someone we can hoof the ball at. Just shows where he is at.

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  • Deji adesoga

    Apr 27, 2015 at 12:46 AM

    Comment #23

    In the words of Samuel L. Jackson in the movie the 51st state.

    “You ain’t seen nothing yet”.

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  • jimmysmith

    Apr 27, 2015 at 12:50 AM

    Comment #24

    You’ve got to wonder whether he can even return to his coaching role after this. I suspect they ran the figures and realised going down was nigh impossible,and so gave him the reins, but this turning into a train wreck for the club and the man.

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  • Average_Contents

    Apr 27, 2015 at 12:50 AM

    Comment #25

    Who mentioned finishing tenth or above in our exchanges?

    Did I? Did you even?

    Erm, I can’t mind read. Concentrate.

    If you want to get arsey that’s fine mate. Crack on.

    Did you not read my stance. I don’t blame him apart from sucking upto the regime and backing them. As I’ve said multiple times tonight.

    WE KNOW THE SLUG IS TO BLAME.

    THAT doesn’t absolve him of any criticism

    He wanted his cake and now he’s eating it. Rotten as it is.

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  • Average_Contents

    Apr 27, 2015 at 12:51 AM

    Comment #26

    Definitely off.

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  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Apr 27, 2015 at 2:05 AM

    Comment #27

    I feel a bit sorry for the man, he’s a bit like a Hart (sorry couldn’t resist it) caught in the headlights of a car. Running around blindly trying to find a way out.

    The only relief he is going to get is when we get a win and the relegation threat is removed.

    Then he might get some respite from the criticism.

    Several wins and some fans might even say he isn’t such a hopeless coach.

    Sad thing is, is that he has probably blown it with most of the Toon fans as he doesn’t seem to have any concept of PR interaction, he could do with a good spin doctor. This unfortunately seems to be endemic in the Toon hierarchy and this, as has been said a million times with no exaggeration, comes from the top.

    He possibly is a good coach, but good coaches don’t always make good managers.

    Anyway far past my bedtime, night all.

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  • mecannylad

    Apr 27, 2015 at 3:40 AM

    Comment #28

    Belfast@16 ….. simply brilliant. I spat my Horlicks out.

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  • mecannylad

    Apr 27, 2015 at 4:00 AM

    Comment #29

    So how an when in fact were John Carver’s latest quotes introduced into the public domain?
    An organised open press conference late on a Sunday Evening?.. Pull the other one.
    These are not John Carver’s personal words but simply quotes from an electronically transmitted Press Release via Bishop & Co.
    Thats how seedy the whole crew have become.
    God…. what a mess …. a real mess. But I can’t get enough of it; thats why I’m up at 4.00am!

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  • Thump

    Apr 27, 2015 at 4:35 AM

    Comment #30

    Oh poor John. Poor, poor, John. Who’d have thought that underperforming in a role you aren’t suited to would get you stick?

    I heard he makes a cracking brew, mind; maybe he should do that. Y’know, stick to what he’s good at.

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  • Santon03

    Apr 27, 2015 at 5:01 AM

    Comment #31

    John Carver, you brought this on yourself. I know football people don’t have rocket scientist’s brain but please at least try use it. What do you expect from interview like this? sympathy?
    Understanding goes both way, you can’t honestly expect it only applies to you. Just stop talking and produce something that you don’t need to ask for any understanding.
    After reading what you said it’s just disappointing, some tried to defend you but then you said embarrassing things like this. all sympathy is gone now.
    you really don’t deserve this job, you act like spoiled little school girl asking to be bullied!!

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  • scout

    Apr 27, 2015 at 5:47 AM

    Comment #32

    I cant believe his comments about the stewards just watching the game. Would you kick an angry supporter out the money they get.
    Most of them probably only took the job to watch the game anyway.
    Maybe they’ll kick Carver out next game.

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  • cyprus

    Apr 27, 2015 at 5:53 AM

    Comment #33

    I said it before. Now is not the time to take on MA. When we were safely at 35 points with a dozen games in hand, it probably was. Now things have changed and the fan base must realise this, because it may inadvertently contribute to the downfall.
    Right now, JC must be ‘rested’. He, for one reason or another, has shown that he can shatter all records. We are, amazingly, right into it right now.
    A substitute for MA can’t be found in the next couple of weeks, Seriously. A substitute for JC is what we need TODAY!!!!

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  • cyprus

    Apr 27, 2015 at 5:57 AM

    Comment #34

    Essex, PR?! No mate, you said it yourself: he needs to win a fxxxxxg game, not PR.

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  • lochinvar

    Apr 27, 2015 at 6:00 AM

    Comment #35

    Cyprus@53
    A substitute for Carver – great idea
    Only problem is that following his own view of a game it might happen at 89minutes, be the wrong person and make no difference so late on !

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  • cyprus

    Apr 27, 2015 at 6:05 AM

    Comment #36

    Loch,
    you are right, we may put on a wrong sub in the 89′! But, at least we must try. Something must be done today. I’m not joking about ‘today’, I mean it. JC, has lost the plot, for many reasons, some of which aren’t his fault. He really needs help. Maybe the solution is to bring in a ‘big gun’ ‘advisor’, thus he keeps his position and dignity – what’s left of it.

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  • Shot Bru

    Apr 27, 2015 at 6:14 AM

    Comment #37

    Cyprus

    The response to the fan forum indicates that Carver is here for the rest of the season!

    Totally agree with you that Carver needs to be relieved of his duties immediately.

    I honestly think that Ashley etc believe that with players returning to fitness for the last 4 games that we will gain enough points to survive… Whereas I can’t see where any points are going to come from…the players have lost interest along with the crowd…

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  • Ron Knee

    Apr 27, 2015 at 6:17 AM

    Comment #38
  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Apr 27, 2015 at 6:21 AM

    Comment #39

    We need to stop picturing Carver as a pawn in some game!

    …he is an opportunist who actually think he’s God’s gift to football just like his predecessor! He doesn’t care one minute what happens to us!

    He is not being used by Ashley – he is using Ashley just as much to get his dream job. Non of you will get in the way of that!

    Wake up people! You have been blindsided once by Pardew, don’t let it happen again.

    They are all using us, Ashley, Charnley and Carver. They are trying to divide us. As all as we accept people like Pardew and Carver being thrown our way that is exactly what we are going to get.

    In 4 games time we will be a Championship club…just to remind you!

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  • cyprus

    Apr 27, 2015 at 6:23 AM

    Comment #40

    SB,
    I did read that but I feel that was a reiteration of the original plan when there was almost NO chance of us dropping into danger. But, this being NUFC, we did our thing again.
    We need to go to a crisis mode, which the club hasn’t realised. Hence my emphasis on NOW. Like you said, where is the next point?

    Much as I hate to say it, maybe we should play ugly, like JC suggested, but didn’t do, in order to get a draw somewhere. Defend, defend, as if we are the worst team in the league, play only counters… See what Mourinho did yesterday. Defended in numbers, as if Arsenal were Barca. He got his point.

    Off for now.

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