Why Carver Has Completley Lost It With The Players – Video


John Carver has proved beyond any doubt that he hasn’t got what it takes to be a head coach – and the very fact that the players are just not playing for him tells you something about John’s abilities as a leader.

nigel pearson and john carver

Nigel Pearson and John Carver today
John- why don’t you move that guy to right back?


It’s very dangerous now with Sunderland and Aston Villa both winning today, and it’s becoming clear that 35 points will not be enough – and therefore we need to pick up some points over the last three games.

But we just cannot see the players wanting to play for Carver, given the way he gives his press conferences and the way he says unfortunate things all the time – generally in praise of himself – and that it’s his players who aren’t good enough.

The self same players that are playing for him right now and not performing.

They are the ones that John has to get playing for him, and maybe his criticism is working against him – and certainly Janmaat seemed annoyed at Carver when he came off and avoided him.

And how do you think Mike Williamson feels after being accused of being sent off deliberately, and how do you think the rest of the squad feels about having Mike held out to dry?

Mike may have a case that he can bring up with the PFA about Carver’s remark, which was foolish at best and said in the heat of the moment – and it shows how John can be a hothead and is so inexperienced.

John Carver may have already put a wedge between himself and the players – and maybe that’s why they are looking like they just couldn’t care less.

It’s very easy to say it’s all the players’ fault every week – but how come John inspire them to play better and to mark players at set plays – he’s the leader.

Potential relegation sides like Leicester City, Hull City, Sunderland and Aston Villa are battling for the points and they are being roared on by their fans.

That’s not happening at Newcastle, and that’s one more reason why it’s now more than likely we’ll be relegated this season.

Here’s John’s BBC interview after the game.

It’s far too easy to blame the players – even though the criticism is fully warranted – no doubt about that – but why is it they are so complacent and seeming not to care every single week after a full weeks’ preparation?

It’s because of Carver’s lack of ability as a coach and as a leader.

If Carver is left in charge this week,  it’s almost a certainty we will be relegated.


167 comments so far

  • scout

    May 2, 2015 at 7:38 PM

    Comment #1

    For the love of god Ashley, sack the man and get someone else in for the last 3 games

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  • Jail for Ashley

    May 2, 2015 at 7:39 PM

    Comment #2

    Get someone in quick, we need five points !

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  • Belfast

    May 2, 2015 at 7:40 PM

    Comment #3
  • AncientC

    May 2, 2015 at 7:41 PM

    Comment #4

    Carver has tried the carrot, he may as well try the stick. Williamson is undeserving of any protection.

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  • optimistic prime

    May 2, 2015 at 7:41 PM

    Comment #5

    The clubs on a runaway train to the championship, all aboard the Ashley express.

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  • JackButler

    May 2, 2015 at 7:44 PM

    Comment #6

    So Carver has done his job and it’s all down to the players?

    Sorry john but part of your job is to motivate, lift and inspire the players.

    The players, Perez aside are a total disgrace, but so are you and the owner

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  • scout

    May 2, 2015 at 7:45 PM

    Comment #7

    I never thought we would lose 8 in a row.

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  • JackButler

    May 2, 2015 at 7:45 PM

    Comment #8

    Was wondering what that noise was, turns out it Carver’s knuckles dragging on the floor

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  • Mint

    May 2, 2015 at 7:45 PM

    Comment #9

    I think the players actually needed the coach to publicly ridicule them.

    Cos what else has been working right!?

    Make them looks sh!t to the world. Make their chance of getting another club smaller! Now lets see them react, to save their own credebility at the least!

    Carver, you may have just done the best thing in 8 games

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  • JackButler

    May 2, 2015 at 7:46 PM

    Comment #10

    scout

    It’s gonna 11 the way things are going mate

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  • Belfast

    May 2, 2015 at 7:46 PM

    Comment #11

    It did look like Williamson got sent off on purpose to be honest, but Sissoko done the same a few weeks ago, and we’ve accused Coloccini of the same thing on here in the past.

    Looks like he’s picking on Williamson because he’s one of the weaklings

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  • scout

    May 2, 2015 at 7:47 PM

    Comment #12

    I would love to know whats happening inside the club.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    May 2, 2015 at 7:47 PM

    Comment #13

    Carver has got things wrong. I’ve lambasted him for not rollicking the players from the sidelines.

    But face it. We started the season with strikers, Perez, Riviere, Cisse. Pardew was talking of Europe. I was talking of relegation. Poor Carver’s had to do without his one and only decent striker for 6 games. And one decent striker was never good enough. So what do you expect?

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  • Lindisfarne

    May 2, 2015 at 7:47 PM

    Comment #14

    “Carver interview felt like a resignation letter”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32569248

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  • Macas

    May 2, 2015 at 7:48 PM

    Comment #15

    Ancient – But you can’t single one player out when 2 players have done the same thing. You could argue Janmaat’s sending off was even more stupid considering we were already down to 10 men and there were only a few minutes left. The Sissoko sending off was a deliberate act I’ve no doubt about that, as he was favourite to get to to the ball first but paused before putting his foot in. For me Williamson just looked uncomfortable with the pressure all game and made a bad decision. However while Janmaat gets a lot of praise on here I feel he is just as bad defensively as the rest of them.

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  • Lindisfarne

    May 2, 2015 at 7:49 PM

    Comment #16

    “”Carver’s words appear to be his nuclear option to wake up Newcastle’s players as they sleepwalk towards relegation, but the dangers are clear and also drive at his own failure to motivate or inspire a squad lacking in fight and quality.””

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    May 2, 2015 at 7:50 PM

    Comment #17

    Nice to see him only give Colback praise is that Carver doing the whole “oh hes a geordie” patter as well?

    Perez was the only player that could take credit , Janmaat has been great this season but let frustration get the better of him so I can see why he lost his temper

    I cant see how we can break down West Brom without conceding goals at the same time Pulis will firing in set pieces from every angle might not be a bad thing Willamson is suspended

    Our backline for this game then will be Raylor Rb Colo and Dummett CB and Anita LB virtually no height or aerial ability in that at all

    Sissoko was terrible for a big man he certainly does not like the physical side of the game

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  • JackButler

    May 2, 2015 at 7:50 PM

    Comment #18

    I have no problem with a manager slating his players, there’s a time and a place to do that, but when it’s done by a man that has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he’s in way over his head and on the back of EIGHT STRAIGHT DEFEATS, its sickens me tbh

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    May 2, 2015 at 7:52 PM

    Comment #19

    It happens time and time again. A team with no strikers can’t put the ball in the net. They’re beaten before they start. It’s like turning up at the Crucible for a snooker championship with a stumpy, blunt pool cue. I’m actually thinking the criticism of Carver is OTT. I predicted a relegation fight last July and August. How can I blame Carver when we’re in one. He couldn’t put the ball in the net for Riviere. So what can he do? Don’t say Armstrong.

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    May 2, 2015 at 7:53 PM

    Comment #20

    I cant believe Sunderland and Villa both won well I can because they went and hired proper managers

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  • Sleepin Giant

    May 2, 2015 at 7:57 PM

    Comment #21

    Ashley may be a billionaire businessman but will be more remembered for his abysmal custodianship of the Toon – his biggest failure. That will be his legacy. The man who took us down twice.

    Basically it is down to his total lack of understanding of sports psychology – how teams work, the confidence factor, what happens when you appoint somebody unsuitable for a top job; how motivation works.

    In other words – basic people management. Incentivising people through appealing to their sense of greed, by having big bonuses, or fear through zero hours contracts will only take you so far in building a successful sports team or in running a club.

    When your head coach spends most of his public announcements bigging himself up and the rest of his PR is blaming the players who he clearly can’t motivate to play for him you have an immediate problem. Your gamble has failed.. It’s also bad management psychology – it was bad to appoint him and may well be even worse to keep him.

    Ashley just hasn’t got it and doesn’t get it. Worse, has screwed up our team for the best part of a decade and has gambled relentlessly with our future. Even 38 pts may not be enough for us to avoid relegation.

    Stick to pile ’em high bargain basement retailing and get out of our club. The sooner the better.

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  • AncientC

    May 2, 2015 at 7:57 PM

    Comment #22

    Macas – Janmaat’s foul was on the pitch and looked more like a stupid mistake, so there is an element of doubt. I certainly wouldn’t accuse Janmaat of wanting to go on holiday early based on his performances throughout this season.

    Williamson’s foul was when the ball was out of play and completely uncalled for.

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    May 2, 2015 at 8:00 PM

    Comment #23

    Does anyone think we will get a new manager or coach in this week ? I imagine Charnley and Ashley will be in full panic mode I bet they never thought Sunderland could get a win !

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    May 2, 2015 at 8:01 PM

    Comment #24

    Carver man ffs shut up lad
    You’ve done f**k all but blame the players, the fans, the ref etc but it’s never you is it

    Sent off on purpose? F**king good on him, after your comments about him mid week what the hell did you expect?
    Your there f**king coach, your supposed to galvanise the squad, raise the spirit, get them fighting

    Instead you’ve continually blamed the players (barring Mr 5 out of 10 himself Jack “bang average” Colback”

    We are supposed to be Newcastle UNITED yet you have single handedly managed to turn every fan AND player against you and NUFC

    Ashley is an absolute parasite, but given our points total a trained monkey could of safely guided us over the 40 points mark

    After all your talk John, all your bravado, all your claims that no manager could of bested you, your claims that SBR would want you as manager of this once great club, your claims that your a fan, one of us in the end you summed yourself best with an “off the record” remark spouted to two invited disgruntled fans…

    “As manager or not, I’ll still be here next season, I’ve still got 5 years on my contract”

    You, Johnny boy….your right up there with Ashley you spineless gutless weasel
    Pardew i heavily disliked, Carver, Carver I hate with an absolute passion, what kind of “fan” can sit there and willing partake in the destruction of his own club

    As for getting a coach in quick, does anyone really think Ashley is going to act now, with 3 games left?
    Nee chance he’ll be looking forward to a full SJP, squad sale and parachute payments

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  • Belfast

    May 2, 2015 at 8:04 PM

    Comment #25

    You’d like to think they were considering it, but given this mobs previous track record they probably aren’t.

    Alarm bells should definitely be going off in their heads.

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  • Klatoon

    May 2, 2015 at 8:04 PM

    Comment #26

    Sissoko clearly doesnt want to be here. Its been obvious since halfway point of the season!

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  • frogonthetyne

    May 2, 2015 at 8:04 PM

    Comment #27

    If Derby sack McClaren fat ash will be over the moon he`ll
    not need to pay compensation to get his man. Would rather have McCLaren than carver. If John hand`t lost the dressing room before today he would have now.

    Everything seems to be going against us at the moment. Similarities to the year we went down. The season could also end in a team in claret and blue beating us and hull staying up in our place. We just need steve Bruce then to start singing in the middle of the pitch and an own goal by one of our players.job complete.

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  • Macas

    May 2, 2015 at 8:05 PM

    Comment #28

    Ancient – I disagree, the incident with Williamson happened at a faster pace. I don’t think either were deliberate, but for me Janmaat’s was the stupidest. He is much better on the ball and more of a threat going forward, but defensively he makes just as many cock ups as the rest of them.

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  • geordie157

    May 2, 2015 at 8:08 PM

    Comment #29

    What are the odds on the return of big Sam and Andy Carroll this summer.

    I hope that’s the last we see of Williamson. Can lascelles play if forest send him back?

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  • Macas

    May 2, 2015 at 8:08 PM

    Comment #30

    frogonthetyne – Derby won’t sack McClaren, they know that we will probably be stupid enough to pay compensation for him. He can’t be any worse than Carver though, although I don’t think the players helped him out much today. Not sure how Sissoko lasted 90 minutes though, he played his usual invisible donkey role.

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  • JackButler

    May 2, 2015 at 8:11 PM

    Comment #31

    Failing to see how he can single out Colback as the only shining light, for me Perez is about the only lad that can hold his head up high from the entire squad, for a young lad new to the league his attitude, work rate and effort have been the only positive this season

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  • Ketsbaia9

    May 2, 2015 at 8:12 PM

    Comment #32

    Carver has made himself look like a lunatic.

    Wish we had 11 Jack Colback’s? Colback’s useless. We’d be in league two if that was the case. Yes, he works hard, but he’s not a footballer.

    Carver has something against foreign players. Abeid’s our best midfielder. He should be playing.

    Cabella should’ve started. Ferreyra should be playing.

    SANTON shouldn’t have been sold.

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  • SA Toon

    May 2, 2015 at 8:12 PM

    Comment #34

    I think JC is just feeling the pressure of losing week after week. He has more passion than skill and is little more than a fan in a tracksuit. I know that if I was interviewed after a defeat like today my answers wouldn’t be printable. If we do get to stay up, we need a professional manager who manages with his head and not his heart. My concern is that, other than QPR and Burnley who may be too far gone, the other teams at the bottom are lifting their games while we are falling apart. But no matter how p*ssed off we are with the owner, the management and/or the players, the club needs to stay up next season. I can’t see that relegation would solve anything. MA won’t be able to get his investment back, so he won’t sell and we won’t be able to attract any decent players or coaches. I would ask every true fan to do the only thing we can do to help which is to support the players on the field. I know I’ve taken some stick for holding this view, but I don’t think the boycotts and negativity is helping the situation. The players pick up on the negativity and it feeds into team spirit. I’m not saying the losses are our fault, but we’re adding to the negativity at the club which translates into negativity on the field. We’re running out of time lads.

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  • Belfast

    May 2, 2015 at 8:13 PM

    Comment #35

    I was always under the impression that season long loan deals to championship clubs ran until the play offs where over.

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  • Ketsbaia9

    May 2, 2015 at 8:13 PM

    Comment #36

    Anyone think Adam Armstrong would be the top scorer in the Argentinian league? No way. Ferreyra needs his chance. Ferreyra and Cisse up front next game with Abeid and Cabella starting.

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  • Shot Bru

    May 2, 2015 at 8:15 PM

    Comment #37

    We’re going down with Burnley and QPR. It’s going to be 11defeats in a row. Get you money on us being relegated and losing the next 3 games.

    And to think people on here were still optimistic that we would pick up 4-6 points before the end of the season!!

    People saying WBA have nothing to play for…or Sunderland who have a highly experienced Dutch manager are certainties to go down!! This is all the none sense Ashley Charnley Carver Carr would have been talking about.

    Carver needs to resign before he gets charged with assault…he’s on the very edge of exploding!!!

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    May 2, 2015 at 8:17 PM

    Comment #38

    SA Toon

    Up until the Spurs game fans were there every week
    What evidence is there previous to that game that the fans have had a positive impact on results….

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  • tequilamag

    May 2, 2015 at 8:18 PM

    Comment #39

    Kets Colback has as many goals and assists as Cabella and Sissoko put together and he is not even an attacking midfielder.Colback and Janmaat are the only 2 players who have earned their money this season

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    May 2, 2015 at 8:19 PM

    Comment #40

    Anyone noticed how after the Channel 4 Dispatches special on S****s Direct that NUFC had compiled and released a statement within minutes!
    Yet here the club is, on the brink of disaster………Silence….

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