John Carver Talks In Riddles


After the game last Saturday and the 7th defeat on the trot, John Carver said his players had given him everything they had – but it was obvious they hadn’t.

After the game it was Newcastle legend Alan Shearer who pointed out it looked like some of the Newcastle players just couldn’t care less.

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Alan Shearer – Newcastle legend

And Alan specifically picked out the third goal as an example of how our players didn’t bother to get back and defend, and Swansea were able to get their vital third goal after 71 minutes, which turned out to be the winner.

So Alan said the opposite of what John Carver has said, but now John says he understands why Alan said that.

This is what Carver has said today about Shearer’s comments:

“Well Alan loved the club when he was here so he’s in the same thought process.” “He’s from here so I can understand why he’s saying that.” (why?)

“But you’d be surprised how there’s a lot of people in the dressing room hurting.” “You know there is.” “In football there’s always people who don’t care, and it’s usually the ones who won’t have a future at that football club.

“They’ll move to another football club and be nice and bright until they’re out of the mix.”  “Everybody’s the same but I think there are people who care.”

“I can’t even go into detail of who doesn’t care, because they all have their own minds.” “But the only way they can show that, and stop Alan from saying that, is by doing it on the pitch.”

We have to admit to finding it difficult to understand what John Carver really thinks these days,  because he says different things at different times.

It’s difficult to understand how he can know where Alan is coming from when Alan says the players couldn’t care less and John Carver said they gave him 100%.

They are almost polar opposite viewpoints on the players.

Go figure.

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45 comments so far

  • IrishGeordie9

    May 2, 2015 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #1

    Ed, do you some how know when im going to post? Unbelievable timing like…

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  • optimistic prime

    May 2, 2015 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #2

    Again JC I’ll ask the question.

    Wtf are colo and Sissoko doing captaining the team??

    Both have made it quite clear more than once they don’t want to be here, both are lazy and unprofessional and neither should be anywhere near first team never mind captaining it.

    What sort of message does it send to the rest of the squad having those two captaining it or even playing?

    IMO we wouldn’t miss either in the team we’d be better off without them.

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  • the broons

    May 2, 2015 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #3

    So Mr Carver, you are not only stating the obvious by letting us know that some of the players don’t give a toss. But not only that you have made coach mistake #222 and openly criticised your players again. (not for the first time this season)

    Wouldn’t mind the amount if people who i have talked to who are saying to me “ahh but i know the guy personally and he does love the club” I LOVE THE CLUB, give me the job! He is showing so much anadequacy with his PR and just general knowhow for the position he is in.

    Yes have a go at the players that aren’t pulling the weight (nearly all of them) but don’t say to spineless snake in the grass journalists that they are not good enough. I get Mike Ashley doesn’t really give 2 hoots about the managerial and coaching skills of his head coach but surely his pathetic attempt to lure the media on his side is more damaging then it is healing.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    May 2, 2015 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #4

    Repost:

    Jimmy…Carver wants the Newcastle job regardless of whether or not has the credentials, are good enough, whether or not it would be right for Newcastle. The club he has worked for for 15 years and he supports.

    …he wants it because it’s right for him, because it’s his boyhood dream. He would drag us through hell and back to get the job and he will apologize for it…it’s nothing but a selfish act that only suits him.

    He would not walk, not because he his a winner (as was Pardew’s excuse), but because he’s an opportunist.

    A Geordie can be an opportunist as well you know?

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  • the broons

    May 2, 2015 at 9:28 AM

    Comment #5

    OP

    As much as I was a fan of Sissoko at the start of the season I actually agree. Dropping him will give him the message that he is not bigger than the football club especially after his recent performances.

    As for colocini, Yeah he’s a liability however if you haven’t noticed we haven’t got an abundance of riches at our disposal, therefore colocini has to keep his place, however captaincy I belive should go to either Janmaat or Colback- two of the only players this season that have shown they do in fact in the words of carver himself “they do care”

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  • jimmysmith

    May 2, 2015 at 9:32 AM

    Comment #6

    That’s great Jesper, you’re privy to his very thought process. Who’d have believed it. You’ve managed what no other living breathing soul ever has. He’s knowingly and willingly putting his own selfish wants ahead of the good of the club. You’re right, he’s lost his moral compass, if he ever had one. Thanks for clearing that up.

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  • Harley

    May 2, 2015 at 9:35 AM

    Comment #7

    Jesper

    Totally agree.

    On what shearer said last week. I don’t think the players couldn’t care. They were up for it first half, chasing every ball and playing some good stuff. We looked the better team and then conceded bang on half time.
    My opinion is it was a confidence issue why we fell to pieces. 7 losses in a row must shatter the confidence and we looked a different team in the 2nd he until de Jong came on.
    There were no leaders or match winners on until he came on.
    I pray he stays fit as he could be the one to make the whole team tick.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    May 2, 2015 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #8

    *will not apologize…

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  • Munster Mag

    May 2, 2015 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #9

    Completely agree with broons. I said 2 years ago on this site that sissoko was a fraud and have always felt that since then. Carver is beyond clueless. He cant see through his “enforcer”. He cant get into his players heads. He cant motivate. His PR skills are the worst i have seen . Tactically he doesnt have it…putting an ex cancer sufferer in midfield v sunderland and putting colback at left back was beyond stupid. i cant stand the man and will find it hard to continue being a fan after 40 years if he gets the job.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    May 2, 2015 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #10

    Jimmy…are we on the same page now then?

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  • jimmysmith

    May 2, 2015 at 9:44 AM

    Comment #11

    Wouldn’t entertain the notion of it.

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  • jimmysmith

    May 2, 2015 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #12

    Only if we agree that you are an ass!

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  • Munster Mag

    May 2, 2015 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #13

    Jimmy i have missed this row. What is ur opinion on carver in a nutshell ?

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  • LGFUAD21

    May 2, 2015 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #14

    Not sure if Jimmy is still here but….

    On Jemez. They have overachieved but not by a long shot and they’ve done it playing dull football. They are a wild card in la liga kind of like we were in our first season back up. Prone to switching on and off but with added naivety.

    And overachiever doesn’t necessarily equal a good manager. Pardew overachieved here when we finished 5th. He’s overachieving now at palace. Pullis overachieved many times in his career.

    Mcclaren has had more failures but you have to expect that when you’ve been in the game as long as him. Few managers are consistently successful.

    Out of who we could entice mcclaren is my as bad as many make out. U fortunately The England job has tainted him and English people can’t get past that.

    People keep saying “but Derby are only in the playoffs” but I feel this is a short sighted statement. The championship is a far more even playing field and a very tough league to win automatic promotion. He’s generally had derby playing well, been smart in the transfer market and been fairly consistent.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    May 2, 2015 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #15

    This interview is not quite as baffling as his one in the Chron this morning whether boldly claims that NO other manager would got as many points as he has during his tenure and he just needs pre season with the players….

    What a load of bo11ox John boy, no other manager? Behave damn near any manager would of been able to breach the 40 points barrier from the position you were in when you took over

    As for just needing a pre season…f**k off John, you’ve beren head coach for 5 years, are we supposed to forget you had several pre seasons with NUFC? And had a pre season with the current squad?

    Seriously just f**k right off, most depressing thing is he proudly stated the other day that regardless of wheather or not he’s manager next season he’ll still be here as he still has 5 years on his contract…

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  • BoyDoneGood

    May 2, 2015 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #16

    Harley

    50 quid on NUFC relegation at 15-1. Those are atrocious odds. Always have a look to see what they offer for the cmplementary bet: in this case the bookies won’t take a bet on Newcastle to stay up, no hundred-to-one-ons, nothing.

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  • banjax

    May 2, 2015 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #17

    If Carver talks in riddles, just imagine why the tactics are failing!

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  • jimmysmith

    May 2, 2015 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #18

    Munster, that he now clearly appears to be out of his depth as a manager, even taking into account all sorts of problems not of his doing, that have blighted his chances of succeedingl, but that personal attacks on him are reactionary, without anywhere near enough justification and self indulgent.

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  • Average_Contents

    May 2, 2015 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #19

    Tads

    Summed it up perfectly.

    He knew then, he knows now so he’s got no excuses.

    He’s a shit.

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  • trevor forever

    May 2, 2015 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #20

    Look guys, Newcastle United is Newcastle United. Ashley wasn’t always here and one day he’ll be gone, the club will remain. I, for one, will always support the toon wether they are premier, championship, or even non league. Carver is pure sh*te tho!

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  • Reyantoon

    May 2, 2015 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #21

    Paco Jemez- sociedad
    Moyes-westham
    McLaren-Newcastle
    Klopp-B.Munich
    Guardiola-man city
    Galtier-Marseilles
    Gouvernecc-St.Ethiene
    Clement-Derby
    Garde-Lille/Sunderland

    **That’s my prediction

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  • TikiTakaAcca

    May 2, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #22

    LGFUAD21

    Are you serious?
    ‘Dull football’?

    I think you need to watch them more before saying something like that.
    They don’t defend, they attack and they attack well.
    Jemez said that draws are stupid, and draws won’t keep you in the league, hence why they just go for the win, even if it be 7-5.
    Jemez once subbed a CB in the first 10 minutes for playing a long ball.
    They had more possession that Barcelona in a game if I recall.

    So where did you get the dull part from?

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  • one fine day

    May 2, 2015 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #23

    Off topic
    But a bit depressing
    Chelsea apparently lining up lacazette with logic remy and 15 mil going other way .
    What is the point of having Carr scourer the French leagues when we only realistically go after his 4 the or 5th choice ?

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  • one fine day

    May 2, 2015 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #24

    Reyan
    Seeing garde at Sunderland would truly break me .
    At least our fans will get to meet him though seeing as how he would choose to live eat and socialise away from Albania on wear

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  • one fine day

    May 2, 2015 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #25

    Reyna
    I could actually see garde doing well at west ham with there proud football heritage and a few decent players have come through their academy

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  • Reyantoon

    May 2, 2015 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #26

    One fine day
    That Lacazatte rumour could happen.But I don’t think he can play there regularly because I don’t see he’d preffered to start than Costa. He could end up like Remi.

    On the head coach:
    I predicted those because we show no sign or movement to appoint a new coach
    so far, other than John’s usual blabbing.
    By our current quietness, we could end up with John,which is sad and depressing really,unless we get surprised..

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  • Reyantoon

    May 2, 2015 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #27

    The positive thing about McLaren is that he knows good players.He can buy good.Other than that, I don’t think our league position and playing style will change under him.We may have one good season if he comes,then next season, I see us languishing in mid table. That is the problem of British mgrs and that’s why I don’t like them to come to Newcastle.

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  • SuperShearer

    May 2, 2015 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #28

    Carver is a despicable as Ashley. He keeps going to his “I’m a fan like anyone else” place but if he was a real fan he’d see that the players aren’t playing for him, that he needs to light a rocket up under them and then tell Ashley that the club is in danger of imploding. You call yourself a fan JC, then prove it.

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  • lochinvar

    May 2, 2015 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #29

    Well John, can you solve this riddle ?

    Ashley: I’ve got it! I’ve got it! The pellet with the poison’s in the vessel with the pestle; the chalice from the palace has the brew that is true! Right?
    Carver: Right, but there’s been a change. Pardew broke the chalice from the palace.
    Ashley: Pardew broke the chalice from the palace?!
    Carver: And replaced it with a flagon.
    Ashley : A flagon?
    Carver: With the figure of a dragon.
    Ashley: Flagon with a dragon.
    Carver: Right.
    Ashley: But did you put the pellet with the poison in the vessel with the pestle?
    Carver: No! The pellet with the poison’s in the flagon with the dragon! The vessel with the pestle has the brew that is true!
    Ashley: The pellet with the poison’s in the flagon with the dragon; the vessel with the pestle has the brew that is true.
    Carver: Just remember that.

    Carver: and remind me boss why I am here ?
    Ashley: 3 points springs to mind

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    May 2, 2015 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #30

    Good video on NUFC.COM of the Leicester game when we almost slipped into Div 3. It’s before some of you radicals were born. You would do well to take a look at it and read up on some of the history of the club.

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  • optimistic prime

    May 2, 2015 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #31

    Woof woof woof

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  • Belfast

    May 2, 2015 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #32

    Blackley I tried to get you reinstated on the other blog last night. I even spoke to the men at the top, but they weren’t having it.

    Your brother isn’t very happy about you stealing his catchphrase by the way.

    Y.c.m.i.u.

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  • beermonkey

    May 2, 2015 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #33

    blimey not long till the team sheet is out

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    May 2, 2015 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #34

    That video shows my favourite at the time, Liam O Brien. Stylish performer.

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  • Belfast

    May 2, 2015 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #35

    Troy Stavers
    May 2, 2015
    You couldn’t make it up.

    It looks like someone has been copying my catchphrase on here. YCMIU.

    Some people have no original craic.

    FTSOTB (For The Sake Of The Blog)

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    May 2, 2015 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #36

    Jimmy…we can agree you have a nasty attitude!

    …but that’s for everyone to see!

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  • beermonkey

    May 2, 2015 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #37

    jesper

    hows the little one getting on

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  • bettyswallocks

    May 2, 2015 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #38

    Carver is 14/1 with BWin to be next manager , McClaren is 2/13 and the others are all 14/1 and bigger.

    Poor Carver s head has obviously been done in with the pressure of trying to manage his home town club.

    I think it is totally disgusting that the club have left the poor guy as spokesman during this difficult time , with no supporting statement from the hierarchy.

    John Carver is what he is but doesn’t deserve to be hung out to dry like this.

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  • nut meg

    May 2, 2015 at 11:45 AM

    Comment #39

    HWTF

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  • beermonkey

    May 2, 2015 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #40

    sissoko dummet

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