Calls For Carver To Be Fired Today

It would be hard for John Carver to convince many people that his future lies as a head coach anywhere, after his disastrous run in charge of Newcastle will probably mean Newcastle will be relegated this season.

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John Carver – out of his depth – completely

And he has hardly helped himself with the interviews he gave after the game yesterday – but it seems par for the course for Carver.

Before games he promises a lot and after the games it was all the players’ fault.

Former QPR and Manchester City striker Rodney Marsh thinks that Carver will be fired today – and there were rumors last night on Twitter and in the Mirror that Steve McClaren was meeting with Mike Ashley this afternoon.

Former Queens Park Rangers and Manchester City striker Rodney Marsh has taken to Twitter and says he thinks John Carver will lose his Newcastle job today.

This is what Rodney tweeted yesterday afternoon after the game:

“I will be highly impressed if John Carver lasts another 24 hours as Newcastle manager.”

John Carver may have sealed his fate by his immature rant after the game which showed all his inexperience as a head coach – basically it was don’t blame me – it’s all the players’ fault.

We’d like to see Mike Ashley and Lee Charnley show some initiative today – but they haven’t in the past.

The only saving grace is that with relegation Newcastle will lose upwards of £70M a season – and even more when the new Premier League deal kicks in next year and that money rises by 70%.

That may force Mike Ashley to do something – but it needs to be today – if this lingers on another couple of days Newcastle could be dead in the water.

Carver’s rant means he has really lost the dressing room as they say – the players have given up on him, and if he is kept on as an assistant that will continue the damage and we will be relegated.

It’s as simple as that.

31 comments so far

  • lochinvar

    May 3, 2015 at 8:34 AM

    Comment #1

    What the BBC pundits said
    Martin Keown: “When you’re in a position like Newcastle are in, you have to stick together, but John Carver is digging players out. There was a lack of desire granted, but he is out of his depth at the moment.”

    Robbie Savage: “The performance from some of the Newcastle players was so, so poor. I have never seen such a poor display from a group of players. That was one of the worst sides I have ever seen in the Premier League.”

    Stuart Pearce: “The finger of blame should not be pointed at the manager but solely at the players. They need to give more for this wonderful club.”

    Dion Dublin: “I’m hoping John Carver is just trying to put the pressure on himself because they have had a stinking set of results.”

  • lochinvar

    May 3, 2015 at 8:36 AM

    Comment #2

    How about we hire all four BBC pundits on player-manager contracts.
    Even if they played 20minutes each we would have a better chance.

  • lochinvar

    May 3, 2015 at 8:42 AM

    Comment #3

    Is Ashley on Mars ?
    Is Elvis on the moon ?
    Either way he’s not driving the bus.

    Even the village idiots said that Carver had lost the changing room weeks ago – probably even before Pardew left.

    It can only be some huge betting scam that leads to us winning 4-3 against West Ham with a last minute goal deep into stoppage time to avoid relegation.

    FA enquiry please.

  • sparky55

    May 3, 2015 at 8:42 AM

    Comment #4

    Repost from last string due to Ed’s refusal to spread out his posts

    Slank @ 6

    That’s exactly what he’s going to do mate and I’ve been saying it for a couple of years now…this is one cold mother fcuker who’s out for nowt but revenge now the job has been done with the free advertising over the last 8 years and his brand being the leading sports retailer in the world goddammit.

    He’s been lucky though…he had no idea when he took over 8 years ago that the sky deals would go up as much as they have and world wide coverage of the premier league would increase as much it has therefore sticking his poxy brand on just about TV screen in the world. for free the spawn cnut

    Nothing left for him to do now with regards newcastle with the exception of burying us like he buries every other adversary.

    cestrasteve @ 11

    He won’t spend any money on a sinking ship because he’s already written off the value of newcastle being a premiership side v’s a Championship side. The money is not important to him…he’s gone from being worth 700 million when he took over NUFC to being worth 3.5 billion so the difference in value between a championship club and a premiership club is loose change to the fat fcuker…all he wants to do is bury us now.

  • banjax

    May 3, 2015 at 8:44 AM

    Comment #5

    We have have all said it, some have said it longer than others – Carter out – yes we know – so why is he still there ? Only Big Mike can answer that ! Maybe he likes the sound of his premiership status being flushed down the toilet. One thing for sure – his bum must be squeaking by now !

  • lochinvar

    May 3, 2015 at 8:44 AM

    Comment #6

    Nobody else awake yet this Sunday morning ?
    Or did I miss the last bus and everyone’s given up.
    I’ll switch the lights off at the ground.

  • cestriasteve

    May 3, 2015 at 8:47 AM

    Comment #7

    Sparky, that’s a very depressing read, if it’s true there will be a riot next week!!

    Now I hate the Glaswegians with passion but it looks like we gave them a heads up and you got to take your hats off to them, they aren’t having any of it!!

  • geordieboy83

    May 3, 2015 at 8:49 AM

    Comment #8

    Fully prepared for abuse for lack of ambition and what not, but here we go:

    Why are people so against mclaren? Granted there are better managers but he ain’t as bad as people make out.
    Took an un fancied boor to the uefa final, yes they then struggled in the league, but it’s not as if he had a Tottenham or an Everton down there, it was a team who were likely to be in the lower regions of the league.
    Done very well in holland and broke dominance of the usual suspects in the Dutch league. Well respected in a very technical continental league.
    Wolfsburg a right off granted but was one of 3 or 4 who also failed at that club, in that time.
    England was a f””k up granted

    I want klopp or garde, etc but mclaren is up there with them in terms of what he had achieved other than klopp obviously.

    Just my opinion

  • hibbit

    May 3, 2015 at 8:50 AM

    Comment #9

    just a thought do you think carver wants the sack if he walks he gets nowt if sacked could get big pay out just asking

  • Ron Knee

    May 3, 2015 at 8:54 AM

    Comment #10

    But JC bleeds black and white! Didn’t you know?
    Seriously, the next 48 hours will be critical. If Fatso does nothing, we’re relegated.

  • Bambams

    May 3, 2015 at 8:55 AM

    Comment #11

    1. Players are not playing for him
    2. Carver has no idea what to do
    3. Players lack belief
    4. Some players want away
    5. Squad not big enough
    6. Squad not good enough
    7. No ambition from club
    8. Clueless owner re football
    9. No leadership
    10. Coaches not good enough

    Ten reasons why we are in this mess and there will be so many more.
    I think it’s too late, the results of teams beneath us will gain momentum. …. I have to admit like so many others I am falling out if love with my club.
    If we drop it might help get rid of Ashley. ..I simply do not know what his plans are.
    Rumours of a new manager coming in but too late in my opinion. Should of done this before the Swansea game.

    Ash has targeted us, it’s personal now and I agree with others I can’t see him ever returning to SJP . He will not be safe.

    Newcastle United Football Club destroyed by a greedy man….

  • Pokat

    May 3, 2015 at 8:56 AM

    Comment #12

    Ashley has to do something even to save his own image. His notoriety will affect his Sportsy D brands eventually, he can’t be that stupid and stubborn to p*** in his own nest.

  • scout

    May 3, 2015 at 8:58 AM

    Comment #13

    Bring in Fergie for 1 million a game.

  • Pokat

    May 3, 2015 at 8:59 AM

    Comment #14

    He needs a top notch D o F pretty quickly, if ash seriously doesn’t want his clothes horse to collapse he needs to find a bloke or blokess ha ha who knows who to hire. The ship is sinking mike down to you mate.

  • toon kk

    May 3, 2015 at 9:00 AM

    Comment #15

    The main reason Carver has to go is because he’s lost the dressing room. In his defence the players aren’t giving their all or simply not good enough.
    Carver is as pissed off as we are.

  • sparky55

    May 3, 2015 at 9:00 AM

    Comment #16

    The unfortunate thing is we are the best fans in the world and it means too much to us not to make our fortnightly pilgrimage to SJP and it’s proven just too difficult for most fans to simply walk away.

    I must admit no matter what sh!te they put out in the mid 70″s to early eighties before Keegan and Beardsley came, I was there every week come what may…so I do understand but to be honest although the AO thing is making the wider world aware of our plight, IMO it won’t make any difference to Mike Ashley’s decision making process.

    He’s out to shaft us and his plan is now coming together as we speak and there’s nowt we can do but watch it all unfold before our disbelieving eyes.

    I’m gutted

  • chasing_rabbits

    May 3, 2015 at 9:01 AM

    Comment #17

    If we get relegated, Ashley will sell. There’s no way he’s going to put more money into the club to develop the squad & challenge for promotion without the guarantee of the prem tv money. Without that money the club wont turn out the profits he desires so we wouldn’t be any use to him anyway. He will cut his losses there I reckon, and leave it to the buyer to invest in players. The situation at the club is starting to get public / media recognition and will start to affect his reputation. He’s had a good run with us but I think even he realises his times almost up.

    Either that, or there will be some fact behind this McLaren story and he’s actually going to make a decision to try and rectify this situation before we get relegated. I couldn’t see him selling if we stayed up, but maybe with McLaren as Head Coach and the events this season & from previous, he may actually realise what this club deserves and put some substantial investment back into the team to show a little ambition. With the increased tv money kicking in after next season, he will want to keep us in the prem & make sure the team is strong enough to sustain top 10.

  • scout

    May 3, 2015 at 9:02 AM

    Comment #18

    I cant settle with the current situation at the club.

  • c-dog

    May 3, 2015 at 9:03 AM

    Comment #19

    Klopp… People who even think of him in the same breath as nufc are in fantasy land. Garde my hole. a foreign manager. Look at the state of the club. We should have hired Tim sherwood when AP left. AP was a perfect match for us and the way we’re run. Sherwood would have been ideal. Hopefully mcClaren comes in and saves our bacon. Rivière raylor Jonas just need to be released now. And big mike w

  • Munster Mag

    May 3, 2015 at 9:03 AM

    Comment #20

    Ron i think we were relegated last w/e. Thats what it felt like. We needed to beat swansea who had nothing to play for but cudnt raise a gallop. I said then that it was us or sunderland because Hull villa and leics are all better than us. Sadly so are sunderland. Better boss, braver fitter players. Sad but very very true. Mc laren peaked years ago and looks like a man who drinks too much. Better than the maniac we have though. And he is a maniac, no doubt about that.

  • scout

    May 3, 2015 at 9:04 AM

    Comment #21

    Carver doesn’t look a well man. The stress on that tired boat race.

  • tequilamag

    May 3, 2015 at 9:04 AM

    Comment #22

    Chasing Rabbits, if we go down there is no chance Mash will sell. The club is worth a lot less in the Championship..

  • chasing_rabbits

    May 3, 2015 at 9:13 AM

    Comment #23


    Yeah, but he’s not going to invest adequately in players to push for a promotion without the tv money to balance it. Especially with no guarantee of promotion in the first season. He’ll take what he can from us (i.e. £34m sat in the bank) and the best price for the club. And championship or not, Newcastle is still worth much more than all the other clubs currently in that league. 52,000 seater stadium + other assets, and buyer won’t (shouldn’t) be taking on any debts + the potential with the right investment, he would still receive some big offers. He won’t get anywhere near the £230m he wants anyway (or around that figure I believe) so if he does decide to sell he will have to accept sums much lower than that.

  • tequilamag

    May 3, 2015 at 9:20 AM

    Comment #24

    CR he will do what he did last time.

  • Munster Mag

    May 3, 2015 at 9:21 AM

    Comment #25

    Pokat the disaster at nufc might hurt his image but my best guess is that he will continue to hurt us.sports direct / nufc / mike ashley are all seperate entities and SD will be fine regardless. Ashley will be hurt by the ch4 prog and so will his brand. He cudnt care less about relegation.

  • mecannylad

    May 3, 2015 at 9:22 AM

    Comment #26

    How can a great city like Newcastle upon Tyne stand by and let its iconic sporting institution be brought into such disrepute by such a sordid, mysterious owner.
    Its not just about the real threat of relegation from the top flight of the English game. Its about integrity; its about heart, its about reputation …. its our future … our legacy to the community.
    Out the man for God’s sake …. whatever it takes.

  • lochinvar

    May 3, 2015 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #27

    Where is Ashley ?
    More difficult to find than Lord Lucan.
    Why aren’t the journalists and broadcasters camped outside his home/office/ bunker/camper van with microphones at the ready?
    They do if for every politician, dodgy celeb, ne’er do well and failed TV presenter that ever existed.
    Why not Ashley – it’s the football scoop that everyone wants to hear.
    Is there an injunction out against them or some other reason ?
    Answers please…

  • geordiemark

    May 3, 2015 at 9:42 AM

    Comment #28

    I think there should be a parliamentary enquiry into mike ashleys dealings at our club I think the tax inspectors should be brought in and the best accountants going brought in as well to see where the money has gone and to who

    the club stinks to the hilt and back, Ashley has used the club to peddle his crap empire but this will come back to haunt him no matter what if were relegated so be it we have always come back it isn’t the first time its happened and we are all fans doesn’t matter if some are armchair fans doesn’t matter if we go to the matches at the end of the day we support our team through thick and thin no matter what so nows the time to get together and get rid of that evil so called human being once and for all

  • bladeuser

    May 3, 2015 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #29

    Jc is the worst part time coach we have ever had
    yesterday he finally lost it only inept willo knows what he did but jc said what he said foolishly because a lot of fans thought the same but as we know managers should keep there thoughts private or back in the changing room especially the statement he made but he did and any other owner would have sacked him today as he is uterly useless back to the fat controller jc would not have made a statement like that as willo should have been no where near this team as he is one of the worst players in nufc history
    now as for mclaren he will relegate us next season if we r in the epl for next season derby s capitulation is on a scale with ours he is the wrong man for this roll but who is for this joke of a club
    hard as it is to say as long as this scumbag is the owner and we r in the epl he will b here for years thats why relegation might be what the club needs
    now a msg to the fans if u do attend the wba game as i know u cannot resist the pies f@#@#@# grow some balls and let rip at ashley jc if he is still there and those pathetic players or do as u usually do and sit there like a zombie and add to the problem as u have for the last six months

  • Sav

    May 3, 2015 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #30

    I knew this would end badly when I heard Cardew announce to the world Riviere would definitely start against Leicester. I wondered ‘why tell everyone now?’ And in any case, I’ve long known, like many of you, that Rivi is pure shite. It was all downhill from there.
    Naming and shaming Willo was the final straw. It was clearly not so premeditated as getting himself banned for 2 games as the result of having the p**s taken by Leicester and especially Vardy for 80-odd minutes and a Coach who hasn’t a f*****g clue what to do about it. Willo was probably imagining it was Carver he was taking out. I was thinking Ashley, myself.

  • Obertan's better than Messi

    May 3, 2015 at 12:30 PM

    Comment #31

    It’s all deserved.

    From Ashley down …

    Charnley, Wendy Talyor and her spin, Carver

    well done to Ashley’s NUFC for proving that buying cheap goods isn’t good practice.
    Also that not investing in the club’s future doesn’t actually work.

    All that money in the bank and we could have had a defence and a centre forward …

    The club deserves to be relegated it is a toxic mess.

    I’ll be supporting an Ashley-free NUFC one we can be proud of supporting again.

    This is shit.



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