Newcastle In Sorry State But Carver May Hold Onto Job


Former England and Manchester United player Phil Neville has talked about Newcastle United and John Carver on BBC’s Match of the Day and Phil ended up saying almost everything at Newcastle looks to be in a sorry state.

Phil Neville BBC

Phil Neville – Newcastle a sorry state

John Carver has been making the headlines yet again with some of his comments yesterday, and he seemed to try to separate himself from his players after the 3-0 defeat at Leicester, and stupidly accused Mike Williamson of getting himself deliberately sent off.

How can our players get behind a coach who keeps hanging them out to dry – so to speak?

That was the Foxes’ biggest win in the Premier League this season and Newcastle’s eighth defeat in a row under John Carver.

The Geordie coach has now tasted defeat 12 times in the 17 games he has managed, with only two wins and Newcastle are now real relegation candidates having taken only 9 points from their last 16 league games – which in a 38 game season would amount to just 21 points.

This is some of what Phil said:

“Mike Williamson’s sending off I thought was a reckless challenge.” “But I don’t think he did it on purpose and that was a silly comment from John Carver to suggest he did.”

“But I look at Newcastle and see the supporters protesting, the manager having a go at the players and the players playing like that. They’re in a sorry state.”

Newcastle are now just two points above the relegation zone and 3rd bottom Sunderland, who have a game in hand on the Magpies, and if they win that game in hand they will go above Newcastle.

It remains to be seen if Mike Ashley will make any changes in the final three games of the season to end this horrific run under John Carver, who is simply way out of his depth in the Newcastle job.

We are hoping something is done, like bringing in another coach who is better and more experienced than John Carver.

But John Carver is part of the clique at Newcastle, and he has gone out of his way this year to support Ashley and Charnley in everything they have done this year – most of which has led to this shocking collapse.

That includes agreeing with Lee Charnley in January that Newcastle didn’t need any new players brought in when it was obvious to every sane human being that our squad was decimated.

But with £34M in the bank the club decided to try to get buy without spending a penny on new players (what again?) – and they are now being found out big time.

John may be too much of a consummate yes man and too infiltrated into the current Newcastle clique to be fired – which is what should happen in any normal club

But of course Newcastle is not a normal club, and this year we have been the worst club in the Premier League – ever since Alan Pardew left at the end of last year.

We deserve to be relegated if we lose our last three games of the season, which would make it 11 defeats in a row.


32 comments so far

  • RUNAWAY777

    May 3, 2015 at 10:40 PM

    Comment #1

    RUNAWAY777 // May 3, 2015 at 10:39 PM

    NezzaNUFC well there not much chance of getting any points anyway bud i hope iam wrong but just can see it

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  • JackButler

    May 3, 2015 at 10:43 PM

    Comment #2

    Repost

    bettyswallocks

    Whats we are facing has been a long time coming mate, Ashley has run the club on the smallest amout of outlay and we’ve skirted with relegation too often.

    What scare’s me is that even if we do avoid going down, which I think we will due to other side not picking up enough points rather than us finding a way to pick up our own, then the cycle will start all over again next season as nothing will change due to Ashley simply not being interested in the club, fan’s or the reigion as a whole.

    This time next year we are 99.9% cetain to be in the exact same position nest season

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  • NezzaNUFC

    May 3, 2015 at 10:43 PM

    Comment #3

    The situation with Carver being head coach atm and not a very good one at that one might think Carver could get the sack after the 3 games,why!?

    Because if a new head coach came in and Carver was assistant manager would MA risk Carver going back in charge if the new head coach gets the sack?

    Iv’e got a funny feeling he’s going to be a coach or get sacked all together.

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  • beermonkey

    May 3, 2015 at 10:44 PM

    Comment #4

    blackley

    our loan is with Ashley not sd
    he doesn’t own sd outright and I would imagine a rather large advertising budget so why can they not pay
    7-10mill really wouldn’t hurt them and as Ashley has said it benefits them greatly

    why does the man handicap us

    lesh
    the playing coaching and administrative staff have been slashed and to the detriment of the club now
    cash not spent it does look like he is getting ready to sell but I just don’t believe that
    I really don’t know

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  • Average_Contents

    May 3, 2015 at 10:44 PM

    Comment #5

    The slug making a change? No chance.

    That would be admitting he’d got it dreadfully wrong in the first place.

    He strikes me as the kind of vile person who’d cut off his nose to spite his face (and us)

    Horrible scumbag.

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  • JackButler

    May 3, 2015 at 10:46 PM

    Comment #6

    Re report was that Ashley was meeting McClaren today, so even if it is true then you can expect tomorrow as being the earliest time we could hear anything…………………………………But I’m not holding my breath that anything will change

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  • bettyswallocks

    May 3, 2015 at 10:46 PM

    Comment #7

    Average

    We all use this blog for various reasons, to vent out , to take the piss, have a laugh, to practice our debating skills or just to catch up on all things NUFC.

    I think that at this pivotal time for our club , with a real threat of relegation and an owner with an agenda that has made our club a joke , we should all be united to try and weather this huge storm.

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  • optimistic prime

    May 3, 2015 at 10:47 PM

    Comment #8

    Everything’s as cheap as can be, from top to bottom that’s why we’re in this mess.

    We’ve got Carver possibly Stone if he steps down, Ashley won’t spend a penny more.

    He’s rolled his dice

    I hope I’m proved wrong but IMO what you see is what we’re getting.

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  • NezzaNUFC

    May 3, 2015 at 10:47 PM

    Comment #9

    So we have WHU, QPR and west brom in our last 3 games, probably the easiest teams to play against near the end of the season but for us it’s the hardest.

    I can see Sunderland, Villa and Hull getting some points in there last remaining games.

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  • Belfast

    May 3, 2015 at 10:48 PM

    Comment #10

    Put him on gardening leave before he completely loses his marbles

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  • bettyswallocks

    May 3, 2015 at 10:49 PM

    Comment #11

    Jack Butler

    I agree, I made the point earlier that with no realistic hope for the future , cynicism will set in and destroy our sport.

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  • wolfshead@toon

    May 3, 2015 at 10:49 PM

    Comment #12

    chelsea : champs toon : chumps
    wd jose bobby would be proud

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  • JackButler

    May 3, 2015 at 10:51 PM

    Comment #14

    You gotta laugh at Captain Fantastic Colo calling for the players to “Wake Up” – this dozy git has been asleep for the past few years…………….oh wait…………….I think he did wake up for a time when he ran back off home following his “Personal Issue’s” or “Back injury” as it was reported as

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  • Online Guy

    May 3, 2015 at 10:52 PM

    Comment #16

    Heard it on a sat Channel an advertising guru said and speculated that the Advertising that Ashley has plastered to the gunnels all over St’James’ park is estimated for that amount of exposure to be worth £30 million per year on account of the space other institutions and Businesses are missing out on per annum ..

    By that criteria you could say Ashleys Loan to himself has already been paid back in the first 4 years of ownership and he know owes Newcastle united £120 million and the interest on that

    Now watch Blackley and Brownlie run across his Ceiling and then down his walls , frothing at the mouth .. What , ! Who said that ! ? Where! ? When ? !!!

    Does he watch out for libellous titbits in the media for another interested party ? !

    If you do Blackley I suspect you go review Al Jazeera as I’m thinking it was said on that channel as I scanned through.

    Over to you Blackley . off for a walk round the garden

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  • Online Guy

    May 3, 2015 at 10:53 PM

    Comment #17

    Amazing to have the club £130 million in dept you owe to yourself as the owner and then charge the club interest in the way of Advertising that is worth way more than the intrest payments it would take to keep the dept to youself at the same level ..never reducing that dept because your a tax dodger playing the system. theres a few celebs been outed ..Jimmy Carr…David Cameron’s fatha …any more ? lets embarrass Ashley into NOT playing the system ..that will give the greedy B’stard sleepless nights and give him another sickener.

    What say you Brownlie and Blacklie..you naughty naughty boy .

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  • Mister Tuff

    May 3, 2015 at 10:53 PM

    Comment #18

    back to the advertising I knew I’d read somewhere about the estimated value of SD’s advertising -couldn’t find where I had read it but now have.
    Neil Cameron from the Chronic.
    “Neil says: I have been told by more than one person that SD gets £20m ‘free’ advertising a season. Go figure.”

    Link:-
    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-feedback-transcript-nufc-8948126

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  • scout

    May 3, 2015 at 10:54 PM

    Comment #20

    Hes gone first thing in the morning…..

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    May 3, 2015 at 10:54 PM

    Comment #21

    Even if we get Mclaren in for the next 2 games he only has Colo available out of the recognised defenders with 2 suspensions and Dummett/ Haidara being injured

    So we either throw Satka in at the deep end in a relegation battle with that shambles of a captain who does not communicate or we play Riviere or Jonas at centre back??

    Berahino and Anichebe will rip that defence apart next week regardless of who is manager unless he is a miracle worker

    Our only hope is he gets the rest of the team to play like a unit and fight and close people down for the whole game

    Oh and stop playing a narrow diamond that just allows opposition wingers a run at our fullbacks we actually need to go for a flat 442 with wingers doubling up or a 451 and park the bus properly

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  • lesh

    May 3, 2015 at 10:57 PM

    Comment #22

    Yes beermonkey, overhead control and minimal spend are among the indicators of a business being sold on but where the wheel comes off is when we drop into the Championship.

    Ashley’s Phuc**d up again big time.

    Oh, my earlier post on the previous thread wasn’t finished (mickey mouse phone screen!), so part two’s on there now.

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  • Average_Contents

    May 3, 2015 at 10:58 PM

    Comment #23

    Betty

    That’s the problem though. They don’t see the problem lol.

    Everything’s fine. We don’t need to rally round.

    The relegation threatened 12/13 season? Never happened.

    Lack of investment? Nope.

    Penny pinching of the highest order? Not a chance.

    Like JB mentioned. It’s taken 8 long and frustrating years of lack of investment, diabolical appointments and a relegation to reach this point.

    8 FUSKIN YEARS! And they still will not accept he’s a greedy shit who’s only in it for himself.

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  • beermonkey

    May 3, 2015 at 10:58 PM

    Comment #24

    online guy

    I have been looking and trying to find a figure to put on our advertising but all the clubs seem to lump it into commercial revenue so its hard to work out

    it is also something that with success can become more of an income if we regularly finished 6th its worth more than if we hovered around 10th to 16th
    yet the club say its not viable to go for 6th yes that’s cos we don’t charge for it we give it away

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  • JackButler

    May 3, 2015 at 11:02 PM

    Comment #25

    On McClaren – The man would have to either be a total egotist, delusional or certafiable to leave a well run club like Derby to come here –

    Very poor and thin squad, no doubt little or no money there to spend on improving it – an owner whose simply not interested in the footballing side of the club

    A Director whose only qualification is being to take short
    hand notes

    Sunday league standard coaches who have lost every ounce of the players respect.

    A divided fan base who are sick to the back teeeth on the whole bloody mess.

    I said yesterday that if I were young Perez come the summer I’d be running for the hills

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  • bettyswallocks

    May 3, 2015 at 11:03 PM

    Comment #26

    Average

    I think we have been hoodwinked and pacified during Ashley’s reign because we desperately wanted to believe there was a plan going forward and better things to come.

    At least now we all know the score , that’s why we should have some solidarity and find a way to get fatty out.

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  • tequilamag

    May 3, 2015 at 11:03 PM

    Comment #27

    I doubt very much whether the board sponsorship unpleasent as it is would be worth anywhere near that. There are only 8 clubs with a commercial revenue over 20 mill and that includes shirt and kit sponsorship.
    The big 6 have large commercial revenue but everyone else lags way behind

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  • banjax

    May 3, 2015 at 11:12 PM

    Comment #28

    Here’s hoping for better news on Monday ! Nite all.

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  • ITUNDERASHELL

    May 3, 2015 at 11:20 PM

    Comment #29

    LEE CHARNLEY 913529017 Registered Address: St James Park, Newcastle Upon Tyne, NE1 4ST WATCH THIS DIRECTOR ADD TO DASHBOARD DIRECTOR RISK REPORT BUY NOW SHARE Credit Status Director Status Companies Verified None Summary Accounts Credit Risk Charges Directors Structure Documents Reviews Director Summary Director Overview Lee Charnley holds 30 appointments at 30 active companies, has resigned from 2 companies and held 0 appointments at 0 dissolved companies. Lee began their first appointment at the age of 31. Their longest current appointment spans 6 years and 4 months at NEWCASTLE UNITED FOOTBALL COMPANY LIMITED. The combined cash at bank value for all businesses where Lee holds a current appointment equals £56,699,569, with a combined total current assets value of £108,831,088 and total current liabilities of £87,656,060. Roles associated with Lee Charnley within the recorded businesses include: Director Registered Details Short name Lee Charnley Year of Birth: 1977 Director ID: 913529017 Registered Address St James Park Newcastle Upon Tyne NE1 4ST Directorships 30 appointments at 30 active companies 2 resigned appointments 0 appointments at 0 dissolved companies Company Summary Year Director and Company Secretary Timeline NEWCASTLE UNITED FOUNDATION NEWCASTLE UNITED PUBLICATIONS LIMITED NEWCASTLE UNITED 1892 LIMITED NEWCASTLE UNITED FOOTBALL COMPANY LIMITED NEWCASTLE UNITED TELECOMS LIMITED NUFC.CO.UK LIMITED NUFC LIMITED NEWCASTLE UNITED LICENSING LIMITED NEWCASTLE UNITED VENTURES LIMITED NEWCASTLE UNITED ENTERPRISES LIMITED NEWCASTLE UNITED CATERING LIMITED NEWCASTLE UNITED PROMOTIONS LIMITED NEWCASTLE UNITED SPORTS LIMITED NEWCASTLE UNITED GROUP LIMITED NEWCASTLE UNITED SPORTSWEAR LIMITED NEWCASTLE UNITED ENTERTAINMENT LIMITED NEWCASTLE UNITED FC LIMITED NEWCASTLE UNITED FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED NEWCASTLE UNITED TELEVISION LIMITED NEWCASTLE UNITED EMPLOYMENT LIMITED NEWCASTLE UNITED LIMITED ST JAMES’ PARK NEWCASTLE LIMITED ST JAMES’ PARK FINANCE LIMITED BALMBRA’S LIMITED NEWCASTLE STRAWBERRY LIMITED NEWCASTLE NORTH DEVELOPMENT LIMITED SJH INVESTMENT LIMITED THE FOOTBALL CHANNEL LIMITED NEWCASTLE STAR LIMITED NEWCASTLE WEST DEVELOPMENT LIMITED MGM GRAND NEWCASTLE LIMITED 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2008 MGM GRAND NEWCASTLE LIMITEDDates: 3/2/2015 –

    Read more at: http://companycheck.co.uk/director/913529017/MR-LEE-CHARNLEY

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  • ITUNDERASHELL

    May 3, 2015 at 11:32 PM

    Comment #30

    Michael Ashley holds 178 appointments at 178 active companies, has resigned from 18 companies and held 16 appointments at 16 dissolved companies. Michael began their first appointment at the age of 27. Their longest current appointment spans 22 years and 7 months at SDI (REDCAR) LIMITED. The combined cash at bank value for all businesses where Michael holds a current appointment equals £653,980,477, with a combined total current assets value of £2,852,993,874 and total current liabilities of £2,938,881,299. Roles associated with Michael Ashley within the recorded businesses include: Director, Company Secretary, Llp Designated Member

    Read more at: http://companycheck.co.uk/director/909550021/MR-MICHAEL-JAMES-WALLACE-ASHLEY

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  • ITUNDERASHELL

    May 3, 2015 at 11:32 PM

    Comment #31

    Why not support Bedlington Terriers.

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  • Brummie

    May 4, 2015 at 1:54 AM

    Comment #32

    This is the best team to play next week for us… We’re completely focked. No doubt Carver will Pick a crap team as per. so we might as well start de jong we got nothing to lose.

    Krul
    Taylor Collo Dummet Anita
    jonas Colback
    Cabella De jong Sissoko
    Perez

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