It looks like Steve McClaren does not want to come to Newcastle, and we cannot really blame him with the turmoil that’s going on at the moment all around the club, and surely John Carver has proved he just hasn’t got what it takes to be the head coach at Newcastle, however brave he is, and since they are the two favorites – presumably the Board will have to think of another man to come in at the end of this month.
David Moyes – when Manchester United manager
Of course by that time we could be a Championship side with the odds being that will happen, especially if we cannot get a win in the last three games and if we lose the last eleven games – nobody can complain that we should be relegated.
Talk of getting managers of the caliber of Jurgen Klopp – while they certainly make a good read – are unrealistic and with all the bad publicity Newcastle have received on and off the field it’;s going to be difficult to get a good man in.
That’s also true if the way the club is managed doesn’t change, because there are handcuffs on the Newcastle manager and he will be expected not to complain and to work hand in hand with Lee Charnley and Graham Carr.
So we think the choice for top coach will be limited, especially if we are relegated, but David Moyes has come in as the odds on favorite for the Newcastle job on BetVictor at 8/11.
However, if Newcastle did make him a good offer at the end of the season – even if we are Championship side – and promised him money to spend this summer – money is available – he could even take the job, but probably only if we were still a PL club.
He was the perfect choice before his Manchester United nightmare, but even Louis van Gaal is finding it difficult this year and Davide is doing very well at Real Sociedad and has rebuilt some of his reputation.
But he’s being very heavily linked with the West Ham job, which may be why after failing to get Steve McClaren on Sunday the Board may have turned their sights to the former Everton man.
If we can get the former Everton man in then it may even energize the Newcastle fans – if we can get him.
It would be another embarrassment for the club if he joins West Ham United – which seems more likely from today’s reports – and it would again show Newcastle’s complete lack of ambition.
What do you think?
Comments welcome.
29 comments so far
Obertan's better than Messi
May 5, 2015 at 1:16 PM
Comment #1Don’t care.
Not my club anymore.
#ASHLEYOUT
Mint
May 5, 2015 at 1:17 PM
Comment #2I do feel that any outcome is a fair one at this point.
1) If we stay up (which i still think will happen) then Ashley got a big old scare and may do something positive
2) If we go down, then Ashley gets it where no protest or boycott could ever get him: LESS MONEY! DEBT, NO RESALE VALUE!
So let those fcukers wreck their careers, or gain some balls and win the day on one of our next matches. Either way I don’t give a rats anymore.
jayphoto
May 5, 2015 at 1:18 PM
Comment #3@Obertans better than messi/Setchell – I think Palace are a good model in whats achievable! Bought back from the brink, now well run and able to compete!
Similarly Bournemouth were bought for 150k only a few years back and have just hit a near 100m pay day with PL football!
It all comes down to who buys you really and who makes the decisions and what their motivations are.
Financial fair play has made club ownership readily available to less than billionaire status business types providing they can get together the asking price. You can’t pour your own money into transfers and wages anymore and run the clubs at a loss which has seen Southampton, Stoke, Palace, Swansea much improve on their fortunes as they are well ran and the unfairness of competition of a Portsmouth, QPR etc effectively cheating by spending above their means is over. With the TV deal we are always going to have the means to pay our costs and any relegation is down to poor management and decisions rather than financial constraints.
However we are less attractive without the tv deal as it is hard (not impossible but hard) to jump out of the championship without running over on expenditure therefor its possible you would need to be a richer man to be successful buying a championship club than a premier league club
Ibizatoon
May 5, 2015 at 1:19 PM
Comment #4Ibizatoon // May 5, 2015 at 10:51 AM
Hello Toon fans / readers of Ed’s blog,
Are the boycotts and protests a good thing or a bad thing?
Ed has given his verdict.
He says: “Will we now calm down just a bit and support the side 100% in the last three games, so we can at least stay in the Premier League next season?
Read that quote again. It says: “Stop complaining or you sent us down.”
It’s his blog. It’s his view. But in the past he has often used a poll to gauge fan opinion on hot topics. What topic could be hotter than this one?
Every week we have asked people to post HWTF to show where they stand. This week, instead of HWTF, we’re asking you to post the following in a single box:
“Give us a poll Ed”
We want a poll. Do you support the Ashley Out campaign? Yes or No.
Let’s hear what the fans think. Isn’t that what the blog is all about?
It says so in the mission statement home page.
Howay the fans.
#HWTFNUFC
Lindisfarne
May 5, 2015 at 1:21 PM
Comment #5Its a mad world:
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/john-carver-planning-pick-11-jack-colbacks-west-brom-showdown?
jayphoto
May 5, 2015 at 1:21 PM
Comment #6@Jepser – I’m astounded mate! Not that McLaren is not coming (if he doesn’t want it now he better not get it in the summer) but astounded that the club are backing Carver! Unbelievable! 8 losses in a row. Tries to fight fans (twice), slates players to fans who then put it all over social media, publicly hangs out his player to dry and hes still employed?? His poor management has seen us drop 6 places so far which will have cost the club 12m. if we get relegated add 80m on to that 12m.
Affectively John Carver’s buffoonery could cost this club £92m….
what you gotta do to get sacked at NUFC???
LGFUAD21
May 5, 2015 at 1:21 PM
Comment #7I personally feel protests should be put on hold Saturday.
1) Protest are pointless without any action that calls for a new buyer. – It would be more effective if a group came together aimed at identifying a new buyer to work with to move the club forward.
Feelings are know to Ashley but he cant sell without a buyer. Even if he’s happy to sit on the money he certainly wont want us relegated and NOT renewing S/T ( which I hope everybody has done) will hit him harder than any protests.
2) The team doesnt deserve our support but the toxic atmosphere is not helping one bit.
The best players at the club can quite easily look at the boos and start thinking “Screw this, I’m off at the end of the season”.
We need all we can in our favour atm to stay up and in my mind the toxic atmosphere is harming the team, its raising tensions. Full support behind a team is not guaranteed to get us out of this mess but it sure cant help.
For that I would personally rather fans defer protests until the final whistle at the end of the season. By all means carry them into next season but right now it’s only fanning the flames. Ashley may have started this fire but let’s not add to the problem guys.
2) The team
Munster Mag
May 5, 2015 at 1:23 PM
Comment #8I completely agree – support the team fully for the last few games. I was fully in support of boycotts etc but now we need to stick together. Annoyed with Shearer – unwilling to say anything bad about his useless golf mate. I never liked him as much as you locals, and certainly hasn’t gone up in my estimations
John Tudor
May 5, 2015 at 1:23 PM
Comment #9no thanks why would he
he is off to the hammers
jayphoto
May 5, 2015 at 1:24 PM
Comment #10Is Moyes doing well at Sociedad? I don’t watch enough Spanish football to have seen them more than once this year as its mainly Barca and Madrid on tv….
If he goes anywhere it’ll be West Ham though
I’m nostalgic of the days a year ago when we all thought NUFC was too good to get david moyes and we were slating the fact that he stopped fullbacks attacking at everton….
midweek weekend
May 5, 2015 at 1:25 PM
Comment #11Doubt moyes will want to leave Spain just yet, he needs time to get it right there, I just hope in the event we stay up we appoint a manager asap and not carver, so much is needed this summer from head coach to 10 new players minium will Ashley deliver, probably not lets be honest
toon kk
May 5, 2015 at 1:25 PM
Comment #12Would never happen, Mash would never pay his wages or even consider any demands he may need.
John Tudor
May 5, 2015 at 1:26 PM
Comment #13We want a poll. Do you support the Ashley Out campaign? Yes or No.
#HWTFNUFC
John Tudor
May 5, 2015 at 1:26 PM
Comment #14hell yes
Munster Mag
May 5, 2015 at 1:26 PM
Comment #15I bring you back to my point yesterday lads. It is critical that MA is not that fussed about us going down. He didn’t invest, and he didn’t hire a coach now or when Carver first came in. He can see that Sports Direct will still sail on, albeit without the free adverts. This is a serious development. For years here, people incorrectly said that he would help NUFC because of the link between NUFC and Sports Direct. He clearly doesn’t see that link they way we thought , and that is very serious matter for all of us.
John Tudor
May 5, 2015 at 1:27 PM
Comment #16DOYLEM OUT
Munster Mag
May 5, 2015 at 1:27 PM
Comment #17Re a new coach, why did Garde prevaricate so much? Surely he is not relevant now and we shouldn’t want him anyway – as he was so concerned with his bloody sabbatical ??
LGFUAD21
May 5, 2015 at 1:29 PM
Comment #18jay
Moyes is doing ok at Sociedad. Hes got them organised but thats all.
Theres talk that he’ll be fired at the end of the season as the club feel he is under performing. I personalty think he has them where they should be.
I dont think Moyes could do a good job here. We dont have the players to suit his style at all. I genuinely believe Mcclaren would do a better job.
Lindisfarne
May 5, 2015 at 1:29 PM
Comment #19In respect to the Licences managers are required to work in the PL, is there anyone else at the club qualified?
Just occurs to me that even if JC has lost the changing room and is no longer welcome on the training pitches, the club are forced to retain him in his position in title at least.
midweek weekend
May 5, 2015 at 1:30 PM
Comment #20Besides everyone including Mcclaren can see how badly run we are on and off the field the club is completely toxic no manager with half decent reputation will touch us, our next manager might Not be carver but he will only be slslightly better we are simply a mess at the minute
optimistic prime
May 5, 2015 at 1:30 PM
Comment #21IMO a new head coach in place would have been more benificial to the team than a cpl thousand spectators rumblings would ever be.
Damn those pesky fans for not hiring a HC
Whumpie
May 5, 2015 at 1:30 PM
Comment #22I completely disagree and think that to focus on staying up is to cometely fail to grasp what Ashley is all about.
Simple question 1: what do you want NUFC to be like in 5 years’ time?
Simple question 2: Do you honestly think that will happen while Ashley owns the club?
Simple question 3: If we stay up, why would he sell?
If maintaining the status quo doesn’t get what you want, change it. Don’t help to keep things the same.
Relegation is not the end of a football club. Ashley is. Put your short-term pride aside and do what it takes to save the club from a fate far worse than another season in the Championship.
jayphoto
May 5, 2015 at 1:30 PM
Comment #23the La Liga table doesn’t suggest he’s doing all that great? 11th joint with Paco Jemez Vallecano (who have a 10th of the budget)
Negative goal difference! Sociedad are a big club in spain and shouldn’t be floating around vallecano and below espanyol, celta vigo etc
Just read a few reports from Spanish based journos saying Moyes has actually really underachieved with the squad he has and its thought that the sociedad board would be happy to receive compensation for him if he leaves for england
toon kk
May 5, 2015 at 1:33 PM
Comment #24Boycott, why should we try to cover the corrupt regime. We haven’t been run like a premier league club for years.
Serve the greedy bast.rd right it we went down.
I said this would happen when most were saying we would be a top eight side.
We aren’t even top eight quality for the championship. Fact.
JP...from The Rock
May 5, 2015 at 1:42 PM
Comment #25Keep dreaming Ed! Even though a year ago we were all saying is wasn’t good enough for us.
We would be overjoyed if he became our next manager.
This just shows how low we’ve gone under this regime. And we’re going even lower to the Championship!!
We are a ‘has been’ club and even then we never won anything. Now we can only dream of getting somewhere and playing decent football. Instead we keep breaking all the wrong records.
This club is so depressing it’s affecting my health.
Carl819
May 5, 2015 at 1:43 PM
Comment #26No thanks
catchy in norway
May 5, 2015 at 3:07 PM
Comment #27NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
catchy in norway
May 5, 2015 at 3:10 PM
Comment #28Ed i have long suspected you know very little about foot , you endorsing this fool seals it got me,
maybe you should stick to that funny shaped ball you use over there
TorontoToon
May 5, 2015 at 5:08 PM
Comment #29mcleran was likely told if he came now he would have to use the current coaching staff (with only 3 games left), which if it included Carver …. Well then I am sure it was a quick easy “no thanks”.
I still find it beyond strange JC talked to SM about the job??? Why? too sour him on it.. To tell him he’d be here to help if he took it???? WTF??? JC is a disaster as a manager, he was at TFC (Toronto) he is now at Newcastle, everyone but him knows it. I don’t want him just sacked as manager, but given his walking papers totally. he says he is a fan … So buy a ticket john and go sit in the stands.