The Embarrassment – Newcastle Have Relegated Themselves

This is the total record of Newcastle United since we kindly saved Crystal Palace from relegation by allowing our manager Alan Pardew to leave in late December – but hey – we got a decent £4M for him.

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Mike Ashley – second relegation in six years

There was a campaign to get Alan Pardew out of the club after we had made a terrible start to the season with only four draws and three defeats in our first seven games.

That’s when the Sack Pardew crew came about – they are still anonymous and no doubt will want to remain that way.

Newcastle should have had somebody who was a proven and experienced coach to bring in – but they took the money first and then decided on John Carver.

In his first eight games in charge we did OK under John Carver with 8 points, but now in the last eight games we have zero points and essentially John Carver doesn’t know what to do.

We’ve had lots and lots  of injuries all year and in fact been top of the injury table in the Premier League all season – but have we ever looked at why we always have so many injuries – no.

We were short of center-backs all season and even when Steve Taylor snapped his Achilles tendon on New Years Day and we sold Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa to Roma in January – we still didn’t bring in any cover at center-back or for the back four.

Now we have only Fabricio Coloccini  as a recognized back four player available for the game tomorrow, so a huge mistake in not reinforcing the squad is coming back to bite us big time and we had £34M available in the bank.

We did reinforce with five new players two years ago – but then we were in relegation trouble and this time Newcastle thought they were safe – so why spend money when we can get by.


And this year we have had players like Jack Colback, Papiss Cisse, Fab Coloccini, Moussa Sissoko, Mike Williamson and Daryl Janmaat all suspended – and that’s a reflection on the players but also a reflection of John Carver, whose job is to instill discipline in the side.

But John seems to have lost the dressing room and probably  the respect of some of the players – and he’s argued with Williamson and Gutierrez recently.

So we shouldn’t be blaming anybody else about what our plight is right  now – certainly not Alan Pardew – you can try to but he’s not here anymore and was not to blame in any way – he’s going great at Palace.

John Carver has eight losses in a row and only three games to go and at the moment the most decimated squad we have had all season because of injuries and suspensions.

We’ve done it all to ourselves – and yes – that’s very hard to take as a dedicated Newcastle fan.

But that’s the truth and we know it.

36 comments so far

  • Graeme

    May 8, 2015 at 5:07 PM

    Comment #1

    How have we done it ourselves??

    This disaster is down to Mike Ashley, Lee Charnley. That they then appointed someone totally incapable of being a manager / Head Coach is yet again down to Ashley / Charnley.

    Absolutely nothing to do with us!!


  • Graeme

    May 8, 2015 at 5:07 PM

    Comment #2

    Huge credit to all who took part in this, but special credit to the Sunderland fans for all they have done in this regard.…/sunderland-fans-ball-for-ne…

    Reposted from previous

  • Average_Contents

    May 8, 2015 at 5:08 PM

    Comment #3


    There’s been loads of w@nk…I mean blank entries lately.


    Who’s this “frank” you speak of? Is he any good? Don’t answer that.


  • Ibizatoon

    May 8, 2015 at 5:08 PM

    Comment #4

    Hello Toon fans,

    It’s been another turbulent week for Toon fans. Perhaps the most embarrassing yet.
    Tomorrow the team have yet another opportunity to put to bed our relegation fears.
    A lot of fans will feel they must attend this home game against West Brom to get behind the lads.
    We have argued that they are being manipulated into feeling responsibility for the club’s current mess.
    This complete rubbish. The club arrogantly gambled with this situation and still is. No-one else is to blame.
    Don’t be blackmailed into giving Mike a full house. That’s all he wants.
    The protests are working. Don’t give him the chance to claim they have failed.
    If anything, the club’s stance has hardened this week.
    Carver is the best. Ashley and Charnley say so. And that, we have been told, is all that matters.
    If they won’t relent for the good of the club, how dare they demand our support and insinuate we are letting the club down?
    We hope people will still boycott the remaining games. If you do choose to go, then at least make some noise.
    Suffering in silence is the worst of both worlds.

    On behalf of HWTF

  • Ibizatoon

    May 8, 2015 at 5:09 PM

    Comment #5


    We are again proposing a blog truce from 3pm today until the full-time whistle tomorrow.
    This isn’t a matter of stopping debate.
    We only ask that there be no squabbling, no attacking the man (or woman), no name calling, no polemics, and no bringing into question the validity of someone’s support.
    We are all equal and we all love NUFC.

    We are again asking fans, from all around the world, to take their opportunity to show their support for their fellow fans of NUFC, as well as showing their support for the lads.
    From this evening until the final whistle tomorrow please post the following:

    “HWTF-HWTL” at the end of each post you make. That’s Howay the Fans. Howay the Lads. That, surely, is what tomorrow is all about.


  • optimistic prime

    May 8, 2015 at 5:11 PM

    Comment #6

    The headline should be,

    Ashley decisions have relegated NUFC

  • Belfast

    May 8, 2015 at 5:12 PM

    Comment #7

    That’s when the Sack Pardew crew came about – they are still anonymous and no doubt will want to remain that way.

    New that would be in there somewhere Ed haha
    Those anonymous kernts !!

  • dok - the horrid colonial

    May 8, 2015 at 5:13 PM

    Comment #8

    In his first eight games in charge we did OK under John Carver with 8 points

    I really wouldn’t call this form ok… maybe for qpr or mackems, not us…

  • dok - the horrid colonial

    May 8, 2015 at 5:14 PM

    Comment #9


    since I drive on the “wrong” side of the road, can I use “HTWL-HWTF? 🙂

  • Ibizatoon

    May 8, 2015 at 5:16 PM

    Comment #10

    Dok….Indeed. Just put English [US] after it 😉

  • dok - the horrid colonial

    May 8, 2015 at 5:18 PM

    Comment #11


    im on rant now, weve done it to ourselves…

    Ibiza, you and OP have been woeful at the back line… BandB, youre very poor up front, and JT and Graeme cant link a pass to sdave your lives… and ive been letting everyone score like a 2 dollar hooker… Belfast, your coaching is horrid…

    our fault, ffs… I literally threw my coffe mug across the office area/… glad its plastic

  • JackButler

    May 8, 2015 at 5:19 PM

    Comment #13

    Ed, Newcastle have not relegated themselves, Ashley is the only man responsibleble and he most certainly isn’t Newcastle Utd.

    The club is run on his model, it’s Ashley that controls everything, he is the only person resonsible for the complete and total mess we are in, not Pardew, Not Carver, not Charnley and not the players – Ashley is the one thing that is killing this club

  • barkel

    May 8, 2015 at 5:20 PM

    Comment #14

    Did it to ourselves!?

    Well now I’ve seen some stupid things on this blog before but this just really takes the p!$$.

    Completely the mismanagement of the club.

    WE, the fans wanted Pards out because of his negativity, lack of tactics & poor team selection. WE wanted better for OUR club.

    F**k this


  • toon kk

    May 8, 2015 at 5:29 PM

    Comment #16

    Carver is out of his depth. But look at our squad ffs. With Cisse out we haven’t even got one proven striker, our defence is makeshift, with Arrons out where’s our pace. We have no one whos a great with headers and not alot of hight in the squad.
    No top coach can change that.
    I’ve said it all season we have a budget squad with resale in mind. Even a kid could see MA regime was flawed.

  • optimistic prime

    May 8, 2015 at 5:29 PM

    Comment #17


    In my best AOL voice You have mail.

  • Obertan's better than Messi

    May 8, 2015 at 5:29 PM

    Comment #18

    The buck stops at Ashley, no one else is to blame for this.
    It’s his club.

    It used to be ours.
    Time to get it back.


  • Dennis Twice

    May 8, 2015 at 5:32 PM

    Comment #19

    Attack Toon attack, attack!

  • danuneek

    May 8, 2015 at 5:32 PM

    Comment #20

    Why didn’t they bring in a replacement immediately and given him 6 competitive months to adjust, work on tactics and get a feel for the squad?!!! Why dont they do things properly? Use your f***ing common sense. He could have introduced his own philosophy, worked out where he needed to strengthen and given the whole club time to adjust ready for the new season. But no, we are Newcastle and we don’t use logic or common sense. The very fact money/business people think they can be successful in an industry they have ZERO experience in just shows the arrogance and ignorance of these people. MUPPETS!!!

  • wolfshead@toon

    May 8, 2015 at 5:33 PM

    Comment #21


    the card carrying pardew out campaigners have to shoulder some of the blame if you remember the interviews he gave after receiving all that abuse at the end of last season he was visibly shell shocked and these were the same people who mocked anyone saying careful what you wish for well its horribly come to fruition

    however the long term reason was ashleys constant penny pinching culminating in him having to manage a prem team with a goal keeper of pub team standards that probably made his mind up to leave at the earliest opportunity and when the good ship crystal palace sailed in to view….
    i only address you ibiza as you generally dont carry a pitchfork/torch 🙂

  • geordie157

    May 8, 2015 at 5:34 PM

    Comment #22

    It’s going to come down to either us or Sunderland for the relegation place.

    Assuming dummett and Aaron’s at best might make the bench this weekend.

    I don’t want to see Taylor or anita at right back give sterry a chance and play Cabella in the middle where he belongs!

    Sterry, Colo, Satka, Anita/Gutierrez
    Sissoko, Abeid, Colback, Ameobi

  • Blackley and Brownlie

    May 8, 2015 at 5:37 PM

    Comment #23

    Strange old day.

    I’ve been waiting all week for AO to let me know what to do tomorrow. Today they say:

    “As before, we call on (season) ticket holders and members to make their own minds up about whether they attend the upcoming game against West Bromwich Albion.”

    So, I’ve got the all clear from AO to make my own mind up, and I am grateful to them to call on me to do that.

    Next, the Balearics Boys Brigade says my priorities are mixed up. It then goes on to declare a truce and to halt all polemics so I am grateful to them for that.

    And now Ed tells me Alan Pardew is in no way to blame for this mess and we all know that that’s true. So I am grateful to Ed for declaring for us what we all know to be true.

    No doubt Ciaran will be here before long and I shall be grateful for a taste of his condescending moral supremacy.

  • Blackley and Brownlie

    May 8, 2015 at 5:38 PM

    Comment #24

    Blackley’s even had Prof Tuff with a bad case of ride on envy.

  • Obertan's better than Messi

    May 8, 2015 at 5:41 PM

    Comment #25

    The catalogue of managerial incompetence at board level just continues unabated.
    As does the culture of cheapness with everything done at the lowest possible cost, with no expectation of quality and no respect for the fans.
    I’m sick of watching his crap teams with no centre forwards and no defence. Season after season going nowhere. It’s just pointless. An insult to football.

    Screw him. I hope we go down so it costs him money.


  • JackButler

    May 8, 2015 at 5:42 PM

    Comment #26

    Does it even matter tp the players if the fans protest tomorrow?

    Lets be honest it’s hardly going to have an impact on their performance as they’ve been dire with 52,000 supporting them and just as dire when protests have taken place.

    I’m looking forward to a time when the club give the fans something to get behind and support

  • Ibizatoon

    May 8, 2015 at 5:43 PM

    Comment #27

    OP…Got it, thanks 🙂

    Wolfs…I come with no pitchfork, I do however disagree 🙂 Of course the pressure was on Pardew, they wont shy away from that being their aim.

    There may have been contributing factors, but what sealed it was an offer from Palace, Ashley accepting that offer and then Pardew choosing to leave. The rest of it is irrelevant imo, as he was still there after the protests and he put up with Ashley for long enough.

    If the offer hadn’t of come in, he’d more than likely still be here.

    As for “careful what you wish for” – I think I probably said the thing at the time. I do believe it was misguided though. He needed to go, just because Ashley didn’t get in someone competent enough to replace him, doesn’t mean fans should shoulder any blame whatsoever.

  • Mister Tuff

    May 8, 2015 at 5:43 PM

    Comment #28

    Well I’m hoping for a 2 -1 win tomorrow and some of the scores in the other matches to go our way -need some luck from somewhere otherwise we’re goosed.

    Brother and Sister Toons Fans let peace be upon you. Hallelujah. Amen.

    Peace to all Toon fans. Hallelujah

  • Obertan's better than Messi

    May 8, 2015 at 5:45 PM

    Comment #29

    If we go down, even if Ashley doesn’t sell, he’ll no doubt want us back in the EPL … so we get to watch a team that’s trying to win … I’d rather take relegation if that’s the only downside.


  • toon kk

    May 8, 2015 at 5:45 PM

    Comment #30

    who’ve we got to attack with?

  • Transfer Sage

    May 8, 2015 at 5:47 PM

    Comment #31

    Well I think this mess is mainly down to Ashley, after all in any business the man at the top takes the flack…he is not solely to blame though but takes up a very large chunk of it.

    The Ashley argument has been made many times, not hiring good DOF or chairmen, letting them hire poor managers and not releasing the purse strings when it is needed…the extent of those mistakes are up for debate with some so I’ll leave it there for now.

    Carver has been very poor, he says he wants free flowing football but what he doesn’t seem to release is that free flowing football stems from extreme discipline…take barca as the example. Every single player knows their role, they know when to attack, when to defend, where to run, when to make runs, to hustle to get the ball back, to work hard, etc etc…the clever moves don’t happen by accident, they are very well drilled. Carver simply cannot cut it, we need points more than anything else right now so should be back to basics.

    Thirdly the players…yes it can’t be nice working with a poor coach or with an owner who declares don’t go for cups and rests you, but these lads should have some pride in the shirt or at the very least pride in their own game. Too many have shown a lack of discipline and a lack of respect to us as fans, the manager/others at the club and their team mates.

    I don’t blame the fans, even with 35/40,000 in the ground their is more support there than at 80% of other prem league grounds so that’s no excuse.

  • Graeme

    May 8, 2015 at 5:58 PM

    Comment #32
  • sickandtired

    May 8, 2015 at 6:12 PM

    Comment #33

    Getting sick of Ed’s constant reference to the ‘Pardew out Crew’
    Read your own copy, man. 4 draws and 3 defeats at the start of this season followed Pardew’s 17 points from a possible 60 at the end of last season.
    That’s the marvelous total of 21 points from 27 games before his normal career style string of a few wins was put together.
    Or 21 points from an available 81. A win % of less than 30% therefore.
    Hardly even mid table performance so get your head out of your backside.

  • Moonraker15

    May 8, 2015 at 6:41 PM

    Comment #34

    Do you read these comments? Why do you keep referring to the Pardew Out Crew? Pardew was abysmal but we didn’t want his assistant in charge we wanted a proper coach!

    Pardew left for his own reasons and Ashley took the compensation and didn’t spend it! The result – probable relegation. But it has to be said that Pardew facilitated this situation by agreeing to work with a weak squad and, allowing it to be weakened so from that point of view he was part of the problem. Significantly, he left when he got a good offer having been taken off the dole by Ashley.

    One thing for sure is you cannot blame us fans for wanting better!

  • JP...from The Rock

    May 8, 2015 at 7:49 PM

    Comment #35

    I can’t see anything but another loss for us AGAIN. Huge thanks must go to the fat one for turning us inyo te joke club we are today.


  • tweeds

    May 8, 2015 at 8:28 PM

    Comment #36

    I am sorry to say i was one of those who wanted Carver given a chance and hopefully succeed, but he is clearly not up to the job, and i do think that most of the blame must stand at his door, it is his job to pick the team, make sure they know their job, what he expects from them, how he wants them to play, and to motivate them and as far as i can see he has fallen woefully short on every count, especially against sunderland, lets hope ashley will finally realises it makes good money sense to get a good head coach cos i do not think he will do it for football reasons


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