Newcastle’s Position Now Eerily Similar To 2009


Newcastle are now two points above Hull City with just two games to play, and this is eerily similar to six years ago when we were relegated, when with two game to go we were 4th bottom of the table ahead of Hull City on goal difference on 34 points – today we have 36 points after having 35 points with 11 games to play.

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Steve Stone and John Carver today

In our third last game in 2009 on a Monday night we had beaten bottom side Middlesbrough  3-1 at home, after going behind to an early goal.

That was manager Alan Shearer’s first win in his 6th game in charge, and we had gained 5 points in those games, and we all thought that was the big breakthrough – and that’s much like today when we broke the eight game losing streak for our first point since last February.

Back in 2009 expectations were high that we could escape the drop, and we had a game coming up on the following Saturday against Fulham, and it was thought if we could win that game we could be safe.

In the same way we are now 2 points above Hull City with only two games to play and if we can win at QPR next Saturday – who at that time are likely to already be relegated – we could even save ourselves.

But back in 2009 in our final two games at home to Fulham and at Aston Villa we lost both games 1-0.

And in Hull’s second last game six years ago, when we were losing at home to Fulham, Hull under their manager Steve Brown, who was born in South Shields, got a 1-1 draw away at Bolton.

And it turns out that was the point that saved them from relegation, and they lost 1-0 at home to Manchester United in their final game but stayed up with one point more than Newcastle.

It’s also true that Hull’s very last game this season is also at home to Manchester United, and next Saturday they are at Tottenham.

So it looks like in 2015 it could be between Hull City and Newcastle United as to which club goes down.

Maybe we can even the score this season?

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31 comments so far

  • GeordieTwo

    May 9, 2015 at 10:58 PM

    Comment #1

    I’m hoping the owner sees sense and brings in at least half a dozen decent players. Not U-23 players from the continent mind. Decent players with toughness and skill. Bring in a good manager and let him set up his own team of coaches. Get rid of Carver and the rest. It’s no good them being there anymore. Time to move on now. Otherwise another season of Ashley and flunkies is pointless. Here’s to a good 2015-2016 season.

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  • optimistic prime

    May 9, 2015 at 11:01 PM

    Comment #2

    Sunderland must have had 5years luck in the last two games.
    Jammy bar stewards

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  • GeordieTwo

    May 9, 2015 at 11:04 PM

    Comment #3

    Or we could just fong Ashley for the sweet baby Jesus.

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  • GeordieTwo

    May 9, 2015 at 11:07 PM

    Comment #4

    How many of our decent players will leave at the end of the season? And how many of the poor players will Ashley agree to get rid of? It could be a horror show if Ashley decides on a low transfer budget. And who do we trust in the club to bring in the right players anyway? Could be a very difficult summer yet again.

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  • bettyswallocks

    May 9, 2015 at 11:08 PM

    Comment #5

    Geordie two

    All that is nice but we need to secure PL survival before planning for next season.

    If we do go down and the intention is to come straight back up then we’ll need some experienced pros like Nolan and Barton .

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  • mindshaft

    May 9, 2015 at 11:09 PM

    Comment #6

    Steve Brown …. ? Thought his name was Phil Brown

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  • optimistic prime

    May 9, 2015 at 11:12 PM

    Comment #7

    G2

    Have we got any decent players?
    Would anybody want them 😉

    I’d be happy to see the back of quite a few of them.

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  • GeordieTwo

    May 9, 2015 at 11:12 PM

    Comment #8

    Or possibly Bobby Brown mindshaft mate. 😯 Betty, I’m thinking we will stay up now. If not then we will have an even bigger disaster on our hands because Ashley has stripped the club clean. We’re left with 2 broken down CB’s (Willo and Colo), a made of glass CB (Saylor), several broken down MF’s (Obertan leads that list) and a much injured flake as our senior experienced striker. You won’t come back up straight away with that lot.

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  • toon kk

    May 9, 2015 at 11:13 PM

    Comment #9

    Great to get a point, but we really lack quality, its so obvious we’re playing with a ready made mid tabled championship side. Not sure we belong in the premier league. There’s no point playing in a league if we can’t compete.

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  • beermonkey

    May 9, 2015 at 11:15 PM

    Comment #10

    G2

    we need some players with the attitude of Nolan but I really cant think of any of the top of my head you

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  • GeordieTwo

    May 9, 2015 at 11:16 PM

    Comment #11

    We do have up to 6 or 7 fairly decent players optimate. Imagine that! We’ve got Krul (at least until the end of the season), Janmaat (same), Haidara (possibly decent if he can stay fit), De Jong (same), Perez (must get stronger), Aarons (must stay fit), and possibly Cabella ( must get stronger)! Beautiful. Next season should be a snap in any division.

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  • GeordieTwo

    May 9, 2015 at 11:18 PM

    Comment #12

    Spot on beermonkey mate. We need some real fighters who will play with passion. I’ll have a look around and see what’s available.

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  • bettyswallocks

    May 9, 2015 at 11:21 PM

    Comment #13

    G2

    I hope you’re right , but if the unthinkable happens we will need experienced scrappers to get us back up.

    Carver won’t be available to lead us back up, he’ll be headhunted by a top club.

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  • toon kk

    May 9, 2015 at 11:22 PM

    Comment #14

    G2
    I watched the play off game with Boro last night, tbh they’re far superior to our budget squad. We’d be taken apart by alot of championship sides.
    We are poor the table doesn’t lie.

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  • beermonkey

    May 9, 2015 at 11:22 PM

    Comment #15

    maybe Ashley should go cap in hand to hughton and see if brighton will flog him

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  • GeordieTwo

    May 9, 2015 at 11:22 PM

    Comment #16

    That’s what I was thinking as well Betty. I’m sure he’ll just slot right in at Chelsea. That Mourinho lad is overrated.

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  • optimistic prime

    May 9, 2015 at 11:23 PM

    Comment #17

    Watching motd and thinking of the games left obviously fat Sam would love to send us down.

    Will Nolan or Barton do us any favours?
    Can’t see it.

    If we don’t get 3pts at Qpr I think we’re done for 🙁

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  • gonufc (Newcastle United Sports Direct Advertising Club)

    May 9, 2015 at 11:23 PM

    Comment #18

    Maybe we could buy two young international defenders who despite being under or wrongly used still demonstrate a far higher level of skill than the rest of the back 4…. and then loan them out for nominal fees telling them if they don’t F Off then they’ll ruin their careers….

    You know, people like M’Biwa and Santon. Santon’s even worse as he was simply injured for a while, played really well for quite a while here and was even desperate to stay!!

    WTF was that about?

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  • GeordieTwo

    May 9, 2015 at 11:24 PM

    Comment #19

    That is correct toon kk mate @14. We’ve got a disaster on our hands. I don’t think Charnley has a clue even now how bad things really are in the squad.

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  • optimistic prime

    May 9, 2015 at 11:24 PM

    Comment #20

    West ham haven’t won away in 11
    You know how we love to let teams get there 1st win for an age 🙁

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  • GeordieTwo

    May 9, 2015 at 11:27 PM

    Comment #21

    I see a point at QPR optimate but it should just let us squeak through in 17th place with 37 points. Ashley had it planned that way all along.

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  • GeordieTwo

    May 9, 2015 at 11:30 PM

    Comment #22

    Remember this is Newcastle United, coming in to land with 2 engines on fire and fumes in the fuel tanks. Everything is under control.

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  • optimistic prime

    May 9, 2015 at 11:33 PM

    Comment #23

    Watching that Krull looks so lethargic, for their goal he looks so slow.

    Apart from that motd just shows how poor the standard of refereeing.

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  • optimistic prime

    May 9, 2015 at 11:35 PM

    Comment #24

    Yip it’s all under control 🙂

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  • Average_Contents

    May 9, 2015 at 11:44 PM

    Comment #25

    Rocking horse shit. My eyes deceive me surely. He’s gotta of been told you need to do an interview. Got to of.

    http://mobile.newsnow.co.uk/A/772311508?-11058:809

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  • toon kk

    May 9, 2015 at 11:46 PM

    Comment #26

    The championship here we come.

    By Mash all that free advertising, not going to be seen as much. Now that’s a shame.

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  • optimistic prime

    May 9, 2015 at 11:49 PM

    Comment #27

    Ac

    That’s the first time I’ve heard him speak, atleast that it can remember.

    His English is shit for the time he’s been here, Julio Geordio is more fluent.

    http://youtu.be/Z_DhiWGoFts

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  • optimistic prime

    May 9, 2015 at 11:54 PM

    Comment #28

    We better not rely on spurs to beat hull, the make us look decent at defending.

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  • jane

    May 10, 2015 at 12:07 AM

    Comment #29

    graphic on MotD showing spending:

    Villa £9.9m
    Leicester £20.7m
    Sunderland £14m
    Newcastle £37.5m
    Hull £42.6m
    Burnley £8.5m
    QPR £33m

    Newcastle’s spending last summer wasn’t bad but obviously that was offset by the sales in January of Debuchy (£12m), Yanga-Mbiwa (£5m) and Santon (£2.8m).

    referring to Hull spending £42m the point was made on MotD that money spent doesn’t guarantee success.

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  • lesh

    May 10, 2015 at 12:10 AM

    Comment #30

    Watching MoTD, Savage referred to a change of formation.

    What’s brought that on? Surely Carver’s living up to his claim to be best coach in the Prem at last?

    Or is there anything in the speculation that the players were left to plan their game and Carver had nowt to do with it?

    It was noticeable that Carver was relatively less self-focussed on his post-match interview. Maybe if he’d concentrated on doing the HC job instead of bigging up his claims to it, we may not have been staring relegation in the face.

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  • toonluvva

    May 10, 2015 at 12:33 AM

    Comment #31

    It’s quite simple.

    If / when we are relegated this season there is only one man to blame.

    Michael James Wallace Ashley. He appointes Mr Charley and by default Mr Carver.

    He was instrumental in our recent transfer dealings.

    We might, just, survive this season. But given the recent approach of our beloved leader wiil next season be any different? How many people will
    say’ yes’?

    No, if not this season, we WILL be relegated under the current management.

    As a ST holder @ SJP ~I have already made the decision that enough is enough.

    Here’s something that Mr Ashley might understand.

    You treat NUFC as a sub-division of Sports Direct. Ok, if I buy something from SD and it turns out to be tat, I’ll not shop there again.

    The current football served up by NUFC to me is tat, hence I won’t buy into that product.

    No more ST or SD purchases from me!

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