Both Carver And Advocaat Have 10 Points This Year

Experience in any job is always very important, and that’s why it was always asking a lot of John Carver when he was given the job as the head coach for the rest of the season back in January.

John was completely untested, so it was yet another risk taken by Newcastle this season – but it was the easy and cheap option in keeping John in the job – and in his 17 league games in charge this year, we have only 10 points with a goal difference of -15.

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Dick Advocaat – 10 points from six games

Compare that with Sunderland’s interim manager Dick Advocaat, who has been in the management game since 1980 and has been through it all before.

In the six games in charge of the Black Cats the Dutchman has 10 points with three wins and a draw, and a goal difference of -1 and they’ve won their last two games.

John Carver’s record.

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Dick Advocaat’s record.


Notice that Dick Advocaat has more wins in 6 games than John Carver has in 18.


So really the results speak for themselves, and in retrospect Newcastle let John Carver continue in the job far too long, since we last won on February 28th.

Newcastle are now firmly in relegation trouble and in 17th place after yesterday’s games – 4th bottom and 2 points above Hull.

Who would have thought that would happen at the end of February,  when we had 35 points from 27 games?

If Hull can gain 2 points on us in the final two games of the season, they will also finish above us and of course Steve Bruce has been in the job as a manager since 1998.

Hull’s Geordie manager can still produce a shock win in his last two games – at Tottenham and at home to Manchester United.

John Carver’s record is simply terrible and we’ve gone from 9th place to 17th place this year since Alan Pardew left us.

It was a huge mistake to put Carver in charge – however with two games to go and the lads playing with some heart yesterday, let’s hope we can survive what has been an absolutely disastrous season.

We hope we can still be in the Premier League next season.

If we do survive there needs to be massive changes made at the club by Mike Ashley, if he is to continue his  ownership of Newcastle United.

A vast majority of fans will want an ownership change this summer and with good reason.

Comments welcome.

10 comments so far

  • Reyantoon

    May 10, 2015 at 8:38 AM

    Comment #1

    “Hard to judge any of the players under when set up and carrying out the instruction of the most pig headed arrogant under qualified idiot we’ve ever had in the dugout..”

    Not only u nailed it on the head there tads
    but u smashed it!!!

  • optimistic prime

    May 10, 2015 at 8:41 AM

    Comment #2

    I can’t beleive their goals from yesterday.
    Defoe should have seen red for a professional foul in the area, then Fletcher tripped someone in Evertons box WITH HIS HAND before Defoe scored with his hand.

    The refs have been shocking this year and that game is a prime example.

    I wonder how much the back hander was the ref got?

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    May 10, 2015 at 8:52 AM

    Comment #3

    It’s not the cheap option ad I have explained before. When you account for the prize money and player devaluation this it the expensive and stupid decision!

    …a rookie mistake even after 8 years of running the club.

  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    May 10, 2015 at 8:53 AM

    Comment #4

    watched mackems game in pub before going to the TOON game – when your lucks in it’s in and the Mackems had bucket loads yesterday.

    Anyway should the TOON have had a penalty first half couldn’t see very well from Gallowgate End – did not show on MOTD

  • optimistic prime

    May 10, 2015 at 9:00 AM

    Comment #5


    We’ve been denied several blatant penaltys this season, the SMB last to games they been hammered and been given lifelines by the ref.

    I didn’t see the Defoe trip when watching it, but jeez could the be anymore inept.

    My hope is spurs needs points for EL so will have a go at Hull then I’m hoping Manu still need points on last day.

    If we can get 3pts at Qpr we’re safe but with JC the master tactician even playing Qpr doesn’t guarantee a pt

  • BoyDoneGood

    May 10, 2015 at 9:07 AM

    Comment #6

    Charlie (last article)

    Absolutely agree – the players were decent from what I saw.

    Toondownsouth (last article)

    Absolutely agree. The team are poorly managed – poorly prepared, poorly motivated, poorly set up. Anywhere else in the football universe the fans would be after Carver’s blood. Calling the players worse than shite is completely unfair and untrue. They came with excellent pedigree. Pardew mystified them and Carver has crucified them. Calling the owner worse than shite is completely unproductive in the short or medium term: he could sort out the coaching problem, costing him, from club funds, a couple of mill; but he isn’t going to lose face by walking away from a £200M investment.

  • jayphoto

    May 10, 2015 at 9:09 AM

    Comment #7

    To all put Carver in charge even back in january baffles me. I can only think/hope it’s because their preferred option isn’t available till the summer?
    Carvers record is worse than just newcastle. We lost 6 out of 7 also when he stepped in for pardews ban. Fairly sure he lost 4 out of 5 at leeds as caretaker?
    Carver in the MLS was something out of a ben stiller script! Biggest budget in the league, ended with a 30% win record in a league at the time where the better teams rarely lose! His tactics were alien. Once played 3 target strikers and hoofed at every opportunity. Constantly changed team and formation! His interviews were the best! More delusional than at the moment! Full of paranoia, outlandish claims etc he was the embarrassment of American sports which is an achievement considering the celebrate over the top characters.
    With this in Mind, ive no idea how charnley thought hed be a success! Jespers right, hes a very expensive clerical error! The error being he should have been sent a p45 not a managers contract

  • WLtoon

    May 10, 2015 at 9:11 AM

    Comment #8

    I thought we did ok yesterday but there again West Brom did,nt seem to give a shit.
    I think Hull will go down,how sweet would that be .
    It was between us and them in 2009.
    I dont think the Mackems or Leicester are safe by any stretch especially as they have to play each other,tho a draw would probs do it for both teams.
    Even if we do go down i still think there will be fans buying season tickets for the Championship bcos its blind faith with them, so Ashley wont give a shit if the ground is three quarters full.
    He would, however, be bothered if it was half empty.
    Do the one thing that will hurt Fatty,stay away,no matter which lge we are in.

  • dave 1961

    May 10, 2015 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #9

    You are wrong Ed Caver has managed for clubs and failed at each one, if you as a failure to do a job he is not qualified for he will most likely fail when was the last time IBM made a tea boy the CEO?

  • Sav

    May 10, 2015 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #10

    Ashley couldn’t care less once the figures stack up. Charnley is clueless about running a football club as a sporting organisation. Carr is the Teflon Don. Do we have anyone else on a board of directors who are interested in seeing the club do well or are those three the sum total of all our hopes and dreams?


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