Carver Could Still Get The Newcastle Job Permanently


After a disastrous 18 games in charge of Newcastle this year, John Carver has only two wins and a win average of 11%, and with a huge 12 games lost John’s loss rate is 66.7% – so there’s just no chance that John Carver will get the job permanently in the summer, after Steve McClaren wisely turned the job down last weekend.

Think again.

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John Carver – completely out of his depth

Here’s John Carver’s record just in case you didn’t know the full extent of it.

CompetitionPlayedWonDrawnLostGFGAGDPoints
League1934121835-1713
FA Cup100101-1
Overall2034131836-1813

But West Brom manager Tony Pulis thinks John Carver has a good chance of still getting the job from Mike Ashley in the summer:

“I don’t think there’ll be any change at this football club,” “I think Mike Ashley is very loyal to the people he appoints, and although I don’t know the politics around the place, the one thing he has done is to stick with his managers.”

“Ask John, he’d have a better idea than me, because he’ll have spoken to Mike Ashley.” “The great thing about this league, and most of the teams that are down there, (is that) there’s a lot of British managers fighting down there, and those managers have got great spirit,”

“You look at what Nigel Pearson is doing, what Steve Bruce is still doing, Chris Ramsey at QPR.”  “They’re strong characters. John’s the same. He’s got good character, and he knows that sometimes you’ve got to roll your sleeves up.”

“Yes, Newcastle are up for the fight and the crowd were up for them – they kept with them, and I’m just delighted my players turned up and put a lot of effort into the game.”

It’s OK about being strong characters – but what about being good coaches?

One problem with what Tony says is that the British managers he talks about – Nigel Pearson, Steve Bruce, Chris Ramsey and John Carver are managers of the 6th bottom (Leicester), 3rd bottom (Hull), bottom (Ramsey) and 4th bottom (Newcastle) clubs.

So those four British managers are managing clubs who are all in the bottom six of the league – so what does that tell you?

Surely Mike Ashley would not appoint John Carver on a permanent basis,  after John has almost taken the club into the second division.

And we could still go down and are only 2 points above Hull City with an inferior goal difference – a goal difference which is 18 goals worse than when John took over from Alan Pardew at the beginning of the year.

If Mike Ashley did  appoint John Carver as Newcastle’s head coach, then let’s just say that would not be good – and yes – that’s a huge understatement.

There’s a clique in the club right now,  and Ashley and Charnley seem more intent on appointing somebody who will fit into their failed system of running the club,  and not complain about anything – and certainly John meets those requirements.

And that’s rather than appoint a top coach on Tyneside who has a chance of making Newcastle great again – and there are a number of those available in the summer.

That also tells you something about Mike Ashley’s ambitions for the club.

But after all it’s just one man’s opinion – Tony Pulis’ opinion – of what may happen in the summer.

And first things first and in two weeks time – on 24th May – we still want Newcastle to be in the Premier League – that’s the only thing that really matters right now – and certainly the fans on Saturday at St. James’ Park were simply fantastic and certainly helped our players – who showed lots of fight.

We need to support the team through the end of the season – these next two games are simply critical – and it could be that we have to win one of them to survive.

Comments  welcome.



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17 comments so far

  • NezzaNUFC

    May 10, 2015 at 11:35 PM

    Comment #1

    This proves Pulis is a dipstick, all hoofball merchants stick by there pals at the end.

    So the question is will MA listen to millions of fans for wanting a new and better head coach OR listen to other managers who say keep Carver at the toon?

    WOW we must be hated every where!

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  • spitfire_

    May 10, 2015 at 11:37 PM

    Comment #2

    “Surely Mike Ashley would not appoint John Carver on a permanent basis after he has almost taken the club into the second division.”

    Why’s the past tense, Ed? Are we safe yet?

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  • jane

    May 10, 2015 at 11:38 PM

    Comment #3

    Carver may get the job because if there are protests about it they won’t be directed at Carver much.

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    May 10, 2015 at 11:39 PM

    Comment #4

    http://www.themag.co.uk/2015/05/what-crystal-palace-fans-are-now-saying-about-alan-pardew-after-4-defeats-in-a-row/?

    Looks like the Palace fans who slated us for hounding Pardew out are already starting to turn now thats fickle !

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  • jimiley

    May 10, 2015 at 11:41 PM

    Comment #5

    Carver bleeds black and white and would be o good appointment as he is totally committed to the club. We do not want a foreign coach and we do not want any more French players. Look how they let the club down when it comes to a scrap. They have no heart a la Pisone. Prove the doubters wrong John, keep us up and get a 5 year contract.

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  • Kebabacus

    May 10, 2015 at 11:41 PM

    Comment #6

    Spitfire

    That’s not a past tense mate, it’s present perfect: the auxilary verb ‘has’ + the past participle ‘taken’.

    🙂

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  • jimmysmith

    May 10, 2015 at 11:42 PM

    Comment #7

    Well they’ve already offered it to McClaren, who’s said no. It just depends where John sits on the list and how many ahead of him say no. I’m sure they’d like to appoint him if he only had better attributes and it must be remembered there aren’t that many who can do the job, historically speaking anyway.

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  • NezzaNUFC

    May 10, 2015 at 11:43 PM

    Comment #8

    jane

    I beg to differ, if Carver get the job even if we are safe I’d expect turmoil towards Carver and matters would be even worse for MA and Lee

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  • bettyswallocks

    May 10, 2015 at 11:46 PM

    Comment #9

    It’s all speculation now. Ashley is a fickle, unconventional gambler who will decide our future manager on a whim.

    From what I can gather now, Carver has spoofed his way into being favourite again.

    Mc Claren and Moyes don’t want it and Ashley doesn’t seem to want a foreigner.

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  • Belfast

    May 10, 2015 at 11:47 PM

    Comment #10

    This outcome would probably lead to my untimely death.

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  • jane

    May 10, 2015 at 11:48 PM

    Comment #11

    Nezza if we stay up I just can’t see big Carver out protests between now and the start of next season. I liked your positive comments at the bottom of the previous thread btw.

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  • Belfast

    May 10, 2015 at 11:50 PM

    Comment #12

    This haha

    ‘Things were going well when Palace were hitting everybody on the break with the pace of the wingers. Surprise surprise, these professional opponents looked at the dangers and have dropped deep to nullify the threat. Pardew has shown he has no Plan B and the losses have not been a fluke.’

    Sounds familiar eh

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  • Munster Mag

    May 10, 2015 at 11:59 PM

    Comment #13

    Surely even the pro british freaks on sky can see that this man is useless

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  • Graeme

    May 11, 2015 at 12:09 AM

    Comment #14

    Jim @ 5 – you are just so wrong mate. Carver is completely out of his depth and a complete shambles of a Head Coach. The man should be nowhere near the club come the August; It would be a disaster waiting to happen.

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  • nufc 11

    May 11, 2015 at 12:57 AM

    Comment #15

    I don’t doubt for one second that jc isn’t already the manager and has been since January he was given the job on the basis he was cheap. That’s about as far as ma and lc football intellect stretches. Cheaper the better. I for one hope it ends up the mother of all disasters it has threaten since January and ends up costing multiple millions. Money money money .

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  • lesh

    May 11, 2015 at 1:02 AM

    Comment #16

    If Ashley and Charnley did appoint Carver, then would they be held on charges of conspiring to cause public disorder?

    Surely even they must appreciate that if they did, fans would be a little pipped and the media, stunned (or not as the case’d probably be!)?

    Would they be that stupid?

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  • Carl819

    May 11, 2015 at 7:59 AM

    Comment #17

    Cashley may be loyal to his people who tow the party line but this is far outweighed by his loyalty to money. Can’t see him risking Premier League status and the riches that that entails for anything

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