Another Negative For Newcastle’s New Head Coach


One of the conditions that is said to have ruled our Remi Garde for the Newcastle head coach position earlier this year, is that Remi wanted to bring in his own coaching squad, which is hardly unusual because successful coaches generally have their own teams.

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The coaching team at Newcastle – second class

But one condition that Lee Charnley has laid down, is the new head coach at Newcastle – whoever that may be – must agree to work with John Carver, Steve Stone and goalkeeping coach Andy Woodman.

That in itself will disqualify some good and successful coaches – but the question  is after the complete collapse of Newcastle this season under this coaching team – will Charnley keep that requirement in place?

The answer is probably yes, because these guys were put on eight  year contracts back in October, 2012 – and if they are fired Newcastle would have to pay each one of them a years’ wages – and Mike Ashley doesn’t like to give out money – as we all know.

And that’s one major reason we are in this crisis we are at the moment.

Newcastle have one solitary point in the last 10 games, and we have been beaten by Sunderland, Leicester and Sunderland which were against teams lower than us in the league table – yet we still lost.

It’s only one point better than if somebody who knew absolutely nothing about coaching and had no training at all would have done at Newcastle – they would have lost one more game than John Carver has.

And don’t forget this same coaching team were put in charge of the club during the games after March 1st last year – when Alan Pardew was banned for seven games.

In those seven game we lost six and won one – the 1-0 at home game against Crystal Palace with a goal in stoppage time from Papiss Cisse –  and in five of those games we didn’t score a goal.

Does that sound familiar?

In the last 10 games we have failed to score in five of those games.

So it’s arguable whether Lee Charnley should insist on John Carver and company remaining at Newcastle when the new head coach comes in – and the club may just have to pay them a years’ wages to let them go – and help the club make a fresh start in the summer.

That’s assuming we can stay in the Premier League, and that means Hull City don’t manage to beat Manchester United at home next Sunday – which is always possible – and if they do they would deserve to stay up.

It’s hard to see how we can reach safety on our own by beating West Ham on Sunday – too many of our players have found too many ways to keep losing these games.

It will be  a negative to any new coach to have to work with John Carver and company, who have proved over the last two years they are second class at best.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.


16 comments so far

  • jayphoto

    May 17, 2015 at 1:26 PM

    Comment #1

    @rotonda id say woodmans whole career was based in the lower leagues and goalkeepers need different attributes down there! More emphasis is on collecting crosses and long balls into the box and shot stopping! Both areas where krul excels more than most!
    At top level coming off your line , positioning and distribution are far more important. Possible woodman bases his coaching on how he was coached as a player where footwork for a keeper was judged by how far he could get it across halfway?

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  • Catchy's Pet Lip

    May 17, 2015 at 1:29 PM

    Comment #2

    I think this is what everybody is currently fearing. They must go.

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  • Our Toon

    May 17, 2015 at 1:30 PM

    Comment #3

    Carver will get it anyway, they’ve never strayed to far from that. He sits in transfer talks whereas other coaching staff don’t. The joker will get the job!!

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  • geordiemark

    May 17, 2015 at 1:35 PM

    Comment #4

    does john carver have any coaching badges to his name at all does anyone know because by his methods by his teams he picks looks as though the only badge he does have is the JC on his tracksuit that’s about it

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  • scout

    May 17, 2015 at 1:45 PM

    Comment #5

    We have a manager who offers people out at games. Who in their right mind would work with this man???
    As Ed said a complete amateur would have probably done no worse.
    Its unbelievable to think hes still in charge. I actually want to go down now just so MA loses a fortune.

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 17, 2015 at 1:47 PM

    Comment #6

    Ed

    They’re bang average, rank 3rd raters. Second class is too kind.

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 17, 2015 at 1:48 PM

    Comment #7

    geordiemark

    all the badges in the world couldn’t polish this particular turd

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  • optimistic prime

    May 17, 2015 at 1:49 PM

    Comment #8

    John Carver being the best coach in the league must only be a bonus for any coach coming in, who wouldn’t want to work with JC?

    He’s invincible!

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  • toon kk

    May 17, 2015 at 1:51 PM

    Comment #9

    Of course Carver will get the job, which ever league we’re in. It’s not necessarily money,( although that comes into the acquisition). It’s getting a yes man willing to work with the current staff and regime.

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  • BandB

    May 17, 2015 at 1:52 PM

    Comment #10

    Rotonda

    I know you are no closet Ashley fan. You keep saying so.

    But you do seem desperate to blame this tsunami on dripping taps.

    Could you bite the bullet and list three things you hold the man you don’t defend responsible for?

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  • Ron Knee

    May 17, 2015 at 1:53 PM

    Comment #11

    Swansea v Citeh. Nice to watch some good football after yesterday’s dross.

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  • Moonraker15

    May 17, 2015 at 1:55 PM

    Comment #12

    Don’t forget Carr! He needs to go as well as he’s too freakin old frankly! And I speak as someone who is a similar age to him; you can’t be as good when you’re past a certain age! Retire Graham please! As for Carver, there surely can’t be a coach anywhere with a worse record!
    We are a laughing stock! They haven’t even got a plan let alone plan B.
    I’d rather go bust than get relegated with shed loads of money! What a joke Ashley is! and Charnley Well no words!!

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 17, 2015 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #13

    yesterday was another clear case of nicking something out of the AP coaching manual. At 1-0 we tried to shut up shop and surrendered all intiative, from being in a good position. It rarely worked for AP and never has for carver. these people never learn.

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  • Moonraker15

    May 17, 2015 at 2:03 PM

    Comment #14

    My dream: Ashley calls a press conference; apologises for the mess, having employed incompetents who badly advised him and introducing a top coach who will bring in his own staff and an initial £100 million to rebuild the team! The annoying thing is he could easily afford to do that and stands to lose £100 million next year when we are relegated.

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  • Wandering Geordie

    May 17, 2015 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #15

    Yesterday was the day that my love for my stopped after 44years and the day the Newcastle United died…RIP……….

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  • woolerbill

    May 17, 2015 at 4:44 PM

    Comment #16

    Any protest should be outside, back the team inside, then at the end up or down
    Rip up your season ticket’s and don’t renew them. Money is the fat gits only interest.

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