Carver Hints At The Real Reason We Lost Yesterday

We’ve talked before that in any job you either have the results, or you have the reasons why you don’t have the results, and the latter gets to be boring very quickly – they also sometimes referred to as excuses.

John Carver is getting good at hinting at various reasons why Newcastle have lost 9 of their last 10 games.

john carver - up close

John Carver – Newcastle’s interim manager

The latest reason he’s hinting at is that hot climate in London – which is just less than 300 miles south of Newcastle – 286 miles via the motorway to be more exact.

The temperature yesterday in London was 18 degrees Celsius and yes – we noticed – the sun was even shining.

That temperature for our American readers is around 64 degrees Fahrenheit – and that’s hardly even warm – it was 90 degrees Fahrenheit in Raleigh, North Carolina last week.

This is what John told the BBC yesterday after the game:

“We didn’t give up on it, we had a go and I can’t fault the lads for their effort again in a hot, warm climate.”

“They were hot conditions and we kept going and going and going, but it wasn’t good enough.” “Next week is a huge game for this football club.”

John  doesn’t say it directly, but there’s some little hints there about that damned tropical climate in London.


The players shouldn’t have any problems on Sunday, because we play at St, James’ Park in Newcastle.

We’ll have to wait to hear from John after the match against West Ham what the reasons were for failing in our final game of what has become a completely disastrous and embarrassing  season for the once great club.

But it’s hardly going to be the tropical weather in Newcastle.

Comments welcome.

116 comments so far

  • Jail for Ashley

    May 17, 2015 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #1

    It might be freezing !

  • scout

    May 17, 2015 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #2

    Its rotten to the core. Relegation is our only hope. We need to start again.

  • optimistic prime

    May 17, 2015 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #3


    I didn’t watch or listen to the match yesterday and waited until the games where over to check the results.
    I went round a mates who has no Intrest in football to avoid giving myself a heart attack.

    Whilst out last night I heard a few man utd fans saying they’d be lying down for Hull next week and I actually beleive that will happen. I can see West Ham turning us over and yesterday was our chance to stop up.

    I won’t be watching the games next week, I’m not going to put myself through the mill watching pathetic half arsed players and a idiot leading them down.

    The players and team along with JC are exactly where they deserve to be, I’ll be gutted if they go down but it’s not worth the stress watching them.

  • lochinvar

    May 17, 2015 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #4

    Some reports that Ashley has called a crisis meeting with him, Chanley, Stone, Woodman and Carver at a secret location

  • BandB

    May 17, 2015 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #5

    If Ashley was told now that he could trim another layer off the costs next season, and go into the final game off the back of one point from thirty but still be a seven to one shot to go down, he’d take it in a flash.

    The last near relegation was going to herald a massive post-mortem and lessons would be learned.
    We got Kinnear.

    Expect no different this time.

  • lochinvar

    May 17, 2015 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #6

    That’s right Carvup blame everything on Climate Change

  • toon kk

    May 17, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #7

    Newcastle is a meaningless club which doesn’t belong in the premier league under MA.
    If it was closed down, no one would miss our present day football.
    Oh I forgot 50,000 don’t mind paying for the pleasure.

  • mindshaft

    May 17, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #8

    I’m giving up slagging Carver, it’s like taking the p1ss out of someone who’s insane (which he clearly is)

  • lochinvar

    May 17, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #9

    Just to add insult to injury Carver has recorded a track on You a Tube

  • BandB

    May 17, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #10

    Anyone who goes long to cheer the lads on next week will be providing the final one per cent missing momentum to make Ashley’s cheapskate gamble pay off. And giving him the green light to try it again next season.
    Turkeys voting for Christmas.

  • mindshaft

    May 17, 2015 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #11

    Relegation is now clearly out of our hands – we have to hope Hull get a draw at best from Man U game or we are relegated
    There is no hope of us winning vs West Ham

  • Fostino

    May 17, 2015 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #12

    Lochinvar. …your on fire this morning haha

  • stan anderson

    May 17, 2015 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #13

    Oh thats why they had their Flipflops on,the damned heat darn souf .I would’nt dare go down there at this time of the year.
    The man is not for real,is he.
    Total shambles.
    Ashley OOT.

  • mindshaft

    May 17, 2015 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #14

    Even if we manage to stay up thanks to Hull we’ll be down next season with this bunch of muppets

  • Fostino

    May 17, 2015 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #15

    The 5 year ashley plan to completely suck the soul out of Newcastle is nearly complete.

  • Laurent Robert 32

    May 17, 2015 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #16

    Dear me…

  • north_country_boy

    May 17, 2015 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #17

    From previous post…can’t keep up with Ed!: Not sure how much everyone has realised but today’s Man U v Arsenal match could be a huge one for us. If Arsenal win then they are guaranteed to finish 3rd (will be if they draw and beat the Mackems mid week as well) and if that happens Man U can’t finish anywhere but 4th so there’s the possibility of easing off next week against Hull (helping out old boy Bruce?) so we really need a Man U victory today to make sure 3rd place is still up for grabs next weekend! Obviously a win for us next week and none of this matters but I’m afraid that W word has been lost in our vocabulary now so need to pull in all favours from elsewhere! Get your red shirts on today….UNITED!!!!

  • lochinvar

    May 17, 2015 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #18

    Lochinvar @9

    Great minds think a like – posted at the same time !

  • optimistic prime

    May 17, 2015 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #19

    When I checked the results last night I wasn’t gutted we’d lost because of the chance we could still go down, I was gutted as there’ll be no protest.

    We’ll either sink into the championship or hang on for another dire season in the EPL without a whimper from the fans.

    Perfect scenario for Ashley

  • toonbrother

    May 17, 2015 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #20

    this man should just remain quiet
    he embarrasses himself everytime he speaks

  • mickalfas

    May 17, 2015 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #21

    The reason for losing John is simple ,look in the fcuking mirror ,what a fcking retard

  • sparky55

    May 17, 2015 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #22

    Carvers an imbecile in all senses of the word and always looks elsewhere to apportion blame.

    He would get more respect from all concern if he said something like “got that substitution wrong…should’ve brought on Abeid earlier, should’ve come out in the second half going for the second goal, and should’ve played Cisse from the start of the second half to put them under the cosh”

    At least that way he would make us think he’s got some sort of handle on what’s coming on but he ALWAYS BLAMES SOMEONE ELSE INSTEAD OF LOOKING IN THE MIRROR AND HONESTLY ASKING HIMSELF HE’S THE RIGHT MAN FOR THE JOB.

    He does think he’s good enough but it’s a bit like the emperor and his clothes…everyone but him knows he’s no where near good enough and the players certainly don’t believe in him and once you’ve lost the players you’re fcuked

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    May 17, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #23

    “Carver the real reason why we lost yesterday”

    …because I don’t know what I am doing…shhh! Charmless and Ashley doesn’t know yet 😉


    May 17, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #24

    The Reason they lost the game Yesterday is that the wrong Team was Picked!

    The substitutes were used when it was too late, when the players who came on would of been in my starting line-up.

    The best coach in the land John Cock-up got it all totally wrong and tried to the same as Pardew always did when he was here and sit on a 0-1 until the final whistle.
    This never works and they should of gone all out for 0-2 and then the 0-3 !

    We have every chance now that Manure will sit back and let Hull play next week and West Ham will beat us at St James.

    I am sick of this total waste of time and effort which we have become under the present owners and coaching staff. So far as this has gone i actually think it will help us to go down and to not come up again for at least three years. If we go down and stay down then maybe then will the Cancer at the club called Mike Ashley be finally cured, and he will leave.

    Ashley has taken the club to the wall and is just screwing the Fans for as much as he can get for his Shitty Direct Sports Emporium. There has to be a drastic change at NUFC in the next few years to try and repair the damage done in the last eight years. Nothing surprises me any more.

    The sad, sad thing is this! The talent is at the club but just need a decent Head Coach to handle it properly and we would be fine? The fact is JC may be a good second but everyone knows that he can,t coach a Prem side as much as i can, i and a lot of the people on here would probably do better than he has done in the last few weeks?

    Let me, if i may compare us to the Scum who have a different coach every six months and hardle ever win games excepting against us. They sack a trainer and less than 24 hours later have hired another, although Dick Advocaat is not a great coach at all but better than Pards and JC put together. There is every chance that they will stay up and we will be down. No decent Trainer in their right mind would want to work for Ashley in the Championship, that is he then stays coz the TV rights in the Prem will not be there!

    I seriously think that Relegation would be a blessing in disguise in our present state?

  • Rotonda heights

    May 17, 2015 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #25

    carver is making pardew look a mere freshman at the university of excuse making.

    Like his predecessor, amazingly nothing is ever his fault!!!

  • Rotonda heights

    May 17, 2015 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #26


    Would love to see all the SD and Wonga signs disappear and Ash won’t get that coverage in the championship.

  • Rotonda heights

    May 17, 2015 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #27

    Thing is for those who say we don’t have the players, just look at that QPR team: Henry, Dunne, Hill, a past it barton etc, etc.

    Yes we don’t have a stellar squad admittedly but a coach is jusdged by his Motivational skills and tactics and 1 point out of 30 (still have to say that slowly) is a criminally damning indictment.


    May 17, 2015 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #28


    It hurts me to state this Rotonda, but i seriously think that the only solution to the all the problems we have at the club is a prolonged stay in the Championship? And not for one year but at least three maybe more.

    It has come to this !

  • mickalfas

    May 17, 2015 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #29

    Its a good job we’re not in Europe ,can you imagine the results if we were drawn against teams from southern Europe ,Sevilla etc, 40 degrees in the shade lol

  • Graeme

    May 17, 2015 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #30

    Surely, AO now need to make a concerted effort to reduce the numbers at SJP for the last match. Show the Illustrious Owner, Penfold that enough is most definately enough. Those that do attend should make Carver’s life an absolute misery – he needs to fully appreciate just how much he is simply not wanted, before he goes begging for the Job, on the Monday.


  • toonarmydownsouth

    May 17, 2015 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #31

    Sorry for the repost but eds on one again

    John Carver got absolutely everything wrong yesterday, everything

    From the starting line up to the subs nothing flowed naturally and the players looked genuinely confused what system they were using, what position they were supposed to be playing in and what their role was

    We were grouped tight together following the ball round the pitch and when we got possession we couldn’t go anywhere because we were all huddled together in the same spot
    It was a joke

    Half Time came, QPR, managed by Chris Ramsey trying to get something out of a team of out of contract relegated mercenaries, made two changes and had them looking to play football and attack us

    At this point in time any manager in the world would of seen we were being torn apart in midfield and on counter attacks and would of tweaked the system, hoyed on Abied/Anita to anchor the midfield and got Cisse on to go looking for a second goal to give us some breathing space
    Not Carver
    Carver screamed at them to sit back, defend the lead, whether the storm…then blame them for the loss?
    It was clear the lads weren’t comfortable doing this and just encouraged fluffed clearances one after the other from Tim “crisp bag hands” Krul who had a mare yesterday

    The fact Carver waited until we’d gone 2-1 down before making a change says everything you need to know about the gutless bottle job

    Now he’s putting the responsibility of staying up on the fans?
    Howay man John have you no shame? You’ve blamed the players the fans ffs you even blamed the “hot conditions” yesterday! (16 in west London hardly Brazil) start blaming yourself man because after Ashley your next in line for the state of this club

  • stuart no9

    May 17, 2015 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #32

    for the first time this season i didnt even try to see the game didnt listen to it on radio didnt knoew the result till 5, didnt know who scored or when. i really cant believe it, 1 point in 30 will never happen again anywhere in world football and if carver gets the job on the back of that then i will call every singe person who goes next seson f”’#king idiots .
    We deserve to go down . It will be criminal if we stay up and hull go down , i will be rooting for hull to pull it off next week, while nolan and big Sam sink us . We cant stay in this league , championship for a few years fat bas”rd out with the rest of the crap that runs our club and start again . Its the only way

  • Slank

    May 17, 2015 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #33

    If the club is relegated I see a repeat of when we were last relegated with all the high earners being sold but I don’t see a quick return to the Premiership.

    There will be players who are sellable. There will be players that the club will take a hit on in the transfer price in order to get them off the wage bill and there will be players who want to move and will, like the last time, make it quite clear they want out:

    Krul, Janmaat, Haidara, Colo, Jonas, Raylor, Tiote, De Jong, Anita, Obertan, Rivière, Cabella, Perez, Cisse and Sissoko.

    Having had the clear out they should keep the local lads from the first team and promote those from the reserves.

    With the money from the transfers and the cash already in the bank they should pay off the interest free loan. Ashley is then in a better position to sell the club to people who may not be as rich as he but are prepared to give it s go.

  • kakaobi

    May 17, 2015 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #34

    Carver = complete and utter fcuking w@nker

    That is all I’ll say on the matter

  • Dennis Twice

    May 17, 2015 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #35

    Attack Toon attack, attack!

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    May 17, 2015 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #36

    I would love to know what’s going through Charmless and Ashley’s minds right now!

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    May 17, 2015 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #37

    I would love to know what’s going through Charmless and Ashley’s minds right now!

  • AncientC

    May 17, 2015 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #38

    I don’t even have the energy to complain anymore. I am more interested in the Man Utd game than ours.

    I would rather watch the teams playing against Hull in regards to our survival campaign, let’s be honest – it is Hull’s opponents that are fighting our relegation battle, not us.

    This may seem very trivial and small, but I believe the fact that the club have stopped naming formations with the team sheets is the last slap in the face they could think up. Just when you thought the club had sunk to its lowest, it turns out they cannot even be bothered to inform the paying fans of the formation their team will be playing – almost like it is none of the fans business… it truly symbolises this ” just take what you are served up and keep supporting” mentality.

    Most Premier League clubs, 1 hour before kick-off produce detailed team sheets.

    This was QPR’s release one hour before kick-off:

    A detailed graphic, showing their fans the formation and the position of each player in their side.

    What do we get? 11 names scribbled down… no formation, no clue of where any of the players are going to position on the field.

    It is a small thing, but to me, illustrative of how those running the club do not care about the fans.

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    May 17, 2015 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #39

    Probably a mind that is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives!

  • Ron Knee

    May 17, 2015 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #40

    Do you think they’ll replace Carver?


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