It’s Still In Our Hands – But Carver Must Start Cisse

John Carver and Newcastle lost our ninth game out of ten at QPR yesterday, and missed out a chance to make Newcastle safe, after we seemed comfortable at half time with a 1-0 lead, but the team collapsed in the second half as QPR win the game with two goals.

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Papiss Cisse – must start next week

John Carver was busy talking again after the latest defeat – and this is some of what he said:

“It is still in our hands and if you want it enough then we can do something about it.” “I saw against West Bromwich Albion, after the players had their post-mortem and I had mine,”

“I thought there was a good reaction and we need that same reaction next week.” “We could have put it to bed, we haven’t, but it’s definitely the biggest game against West Ham.”

“This is the biggest game this football club has had for a long, long time.” “I want the same atmosphere as we had against West Brom. It could be the fans who get us across the line and keep our Premier League status.”

“A lot of people out there will say ‘why should they?’. Because I think they want this team to stay in the Premier League.”

“And if it means giving us that extra five, 10 per cent that’s going to keep us in the Premier League, then we need it.”

“Once we get the game out of the way, hopefully we’ve got our Premier League status, then we can have a post-mortem and they can voice their opinion and we’ll deal with it.”

John may want the fans behind the team next Sunday and he’s right about that,  but the fans also need to see the players show some commitment, fight and pride – and it’s up to the coach to get that out of them some way – any way.

Newcastle have been an embarrassment this year,  and while we hope we can get the win that will make us safe next Sunday at home to West Ham, with our past record,  it’s hard to see how we can get the 3 points.

Well, unless Carver starts Cisse and Aarons – it’s daft to save them in this final game of the season.

Save them for what?

We could be relegated at the end of the game on Sunday, but John Carver has shown he is an ultra-conservative coach who doesn’t take many chances.

It’s up to John Carver and the players to produce next Sunday, and the fans will support the side big time.

We have a feeling John Carver will start Riviere before Cisse on Sunday, mainly because Emmanuel scored his first PL goal at QPR.

Cisse has 11 PL goals this season in only 21 appearances.

Comments welcome.

35 comments so far

  • Oldgit1

    May 17, 2015 at 12:26 AM

    Comment #1

    37Oldgit1 // May 17, 2015 at 12:24 AM

    It is so fcuking obvious what carver is up to and I’m surprised all you that post on here are not aware.

    Carver wants us to be relegated because if we stay up he will be booted out and he is convinced he will remain HC if in the championship.

    There you go, and he has got what he wanted. It would be just his luck if hull get beat making us safe, he will then proclaim himself to be a hero( in his eyes only)

    How else can you justify his team selections, Ryan Taylor I ask you. No abied, and dropping Anita.

    Carver you are a fool, get out of my club and take stone with you. Now I am totally pissed off.

  • Goofy

    May 17, 2015 at 12:27 AM

    Comment #2

    Carver STFU!! Manure can save us end of!!

  • Oldgit1

    May 17, 2015 at 12:31 AM

    Comment #3

    Cissie and arrans had a fall out on the pitch, this was pointed out to him when carver was interviewed. He claims to have not seen it but will review the game and will talk to both players.

  • Belfast

    May 17, 2015 at 12:34 AM

    Comment #4

    It’s in our hands on paper, but not in reality, because we’re absolutely crap.

  • Belfast

    May 17, 2015 at 12:35 AM

    Comment #5

    Man United hold the aces. Our fate is in their hands

  • Belfast

    May 17, 2015 at 12:40 AM

    Comment #6

    How embarrassing would it be if we get stuffed and man united win? Haha

  • stan anderson

    May 17, 2015 at 12:47 AM

    Comment #7

    Do you really care what happens with the slug pulling all the strings.We are just a way for him to make more money.
    Please get it in your heads.
    Ashley OOT.

  • Average_Contents

    May 17, 2015 at 12:48 AM

    Comment #8

    The biggest game for all the wrong fcuking reasons you twat.

    You and your boss and his boss need putting down. Now.

    Fcuking disgraceful way to run a football club.

    You’ve accepted it and even condoned it but sold your fcuking soul in the process and will be forever remembered as the man who done it so blatantly and unashamedly.

    You are nothing more than a flak deflector but because you’ve been blinded by the job you don’t see it and been hung out to dry which in my opinion makes you thick as fcuk.

    We all know who’s to blame for the mess we are in. There is no need for you to exasperate it spectacularly though.

    Fat twat out.

    No necked yes man out

    Honest john out

    And take your fcuking equally clueless mates with you.

    The sooner you all fcukoff the sooner we can be proud of our club again.

    Get to fcuk.

  • Lindisfarne

    May 17, 2015 at 12:49 AM

    Comment #9

    Ed “”the fans also need to see the players show some commitment, fight and pride – and it’s up to the coach to get that out of them””

    This statement reflects the rhetoric coming from Carver and the club. For me the most important objective for the Coach is to get the players performing together beyond their individual abilities, in an organised tactical formation, with a game plan and enough innate interaction to at least look like they know what they are doing as a squad.

    Fielding experienced players would be a good decision if they were not underperforming and uninterested. The instigation of fight and pride alone does not provide the necessary potential to provide a positive result, especially when there is no longer term, beyond the end of the season, motivation for some of the players.

  • Average_Contents

    May 17, 2015 at 12:50 AM

    Comment #10

    They all boil my piss. None more so than the fat tub of tripe currently at the head of the snake.

    I say lop it off.

  • Shadow_Shearer

    May 17, 2015 at 12:54 AM

    Comment #11

    I don’t know who talks more verbal diarrhea between John carver or joe kinnear.
    why on earth the fat stingy prick likes these big talk no action dafties, I don’t understand.

  • Shadow_Shearer

    May 17, 2015 at 12:57 AM

    Comment #12

    Somebody do me a favour, shoot fat boy & all his muppets. I’m surprised nobody has done it yet

  • Mint

    May 17, 2015 at 1:20 AM

    Comment #13

    Has anyone noticed that if ManU dont win tomorrow, then they have nothing to play for next week as 4th place is confirmed as their finishing position.

    Even if they draw against Arsenal they will not pass them with a win due to goal difference.

    Ill be watching this game very closely now! Our future may well depend on it. If they win, they could still finish as high as 2nd!

  • banjax

    May 17, 2015 at 1:33 AM

    Comment #14

    There’s not much let to say that hasn’t been said already. Ant and Dec picked the best starting 11 today, so who needs a Carver. But I’m afraid we’ll be very lucky to survive this and if we do or not the management and players need to be told as such in no uncertain terms. Embarrassing and gutless as usual !

  • Goofy

    May 17, 2015 at 1:58 AM

    Comment #15

    Carver calls himself a Geordie through and through, Cmon Carver wave the White flag, you ain’t good enough, fcuk knows who is but your not. I’m all for passion, not seen any yet, with your tactics, formation and only one striker up front at home all seasonn, cmon show some pride and hand In your resignation… Please. Even if we go down your not the man, give up Carver, Robson’s turning in his grave.

  • Goofy

    May 17, 2015 at 2:03 AM

    Comment #16

    @Belfast,,, I’d take that but honestly as of late I’ve nothing to look forward to at the weekend anymore (as in Newcastle’s form)

  • one fine day

    May 17, 2015 at 3:09 AM

    Comment #17

    Can anyone tell me why stone,watson and woodman are actually in the dugout ?
    What do they bring?
    Are they drafted in to sit there so we look like a pro set up?
    They all sit there shaking their heads …pointless.
    Maybe carver insists on them being there to share the shame ?
    Whatever happens the entire set up needs clearing out.
    This year we have plunged to a new depth .
    The fact we need man utd to pull us out the shit is just embarrassing .

  • one fine day

    May 17, 2015 at 3:15 AM

    Comment #18

    Wonder if our too salad dodging leaders will have the balls to show up at st james next week to watch the “fruits” of their labour finally come undone?
    No? thought not.
    Another last day against claret n blue….:(
    #wear no wonga

  • theartfuldodger

    May 17, 2015 at 3:19 AM

    Comment #19

    Can anyone tell me how 2-3 yrs in the championship wont help get rid of Ashley ?????

  • gonufc (Newcastle United Sports Direct Advertising Club)

    May 17, 2015 at 5:56 AM

    Comment #20

    Does Carver ever think about actual FOOTBALL factors in games rather than just mentality? I don’t think I’ve ever heard him talk about actual footballing matters (tactics, technique, decisions etc.), it’s always “We need to want it!” etc. I’m sure Ryan Taylor is a great professional, but giving the ball away every other touch is not helping!!

    The big picture though- I have no idea what to think. I don’t know if I care or not about relegation (I know it sounds crazy) because if we stay up we all know the mediocrity we’ll be aiming for.

    Maybe to try and fail is better than not trying at all.

    Also, the relegation battle is going to be the top story now so will get his advertising boards a hell of a lot of coverage!

  • Klam3r

    May 17, 2015 at 6:07 AM

    Comment #21

    Just as important… Ryan Taylor must be dropped. With him we’re starting with a handicap.

    He has never been good enough for us. His freekicks saved him before. Now he doesn’t even have that. He was a poor version of Brunt, now he’s making a fool of himself.

  • toonbrother

    May 17, 2015 at 7:22 AM

    Comment #22

    it has nothing to do with cisse but everything to do with our defence
    this back four would guarantee us safety:
    anita janmaat dummett jonas

    on the other hand this back four would guarantee us condemnation:
    colocinni + anybody

  • Bambams

    May 17, 2015 at 7:25 AM

    Comment #23

    Nothing will change if we stay up. The only chance we have to get rid of cashley is relegation and to not get promoted for a few years.

    That is my belief, Ashley has his style and won’t budge. This style has not worked and it is the reason we will drop.

    Too many chances to get the points needed and we haven’t. …. It’s fate now.

    Carvs is totally out of his depth, he should of brought on Cisse at half time and there was no reason not to.

    Our club is rotten and I don’t think for one moment Ashley will spend tens of millions if we survive. Just not his style


  • John Tudor

    May 17, 2015 at 7:34 AM

    Comment #24

    just stop going
    come on the sacks of shite

  • The overrated Frenchman

    May 17, 2015 at 7:39 AM

    Comment #25

    Whatever happens, surely there must be a major overhaul at the top. Charnley has been almost criminally derelict in his duty, and Carr, Carver and frankly all the coaching staff are not fit for purpose. Relegation or not, these people must go. They have all shown in spades they are not up to the job.

  • John Tudor

    May 17, 2015 at 7:43 AM

    Comment #26

    no surely about it
    the kernts in charge know ferk all

  • lesh

    May 17, 2015 at 7:49 AM

    Comment #27

    Interesting that one of the papers estimated that with parachute payments and a quick return from the Championship, the cost of relegation would be about £34m.

    £34m? Does that ring any bells?

  • firebug666

    May 17, 2015 at 7:50 AM

    Comment #28

    The chance of being relegated are 50/50, Hull lose we stay up, Hull win we go down.

    There are some benefits to being relegated, those being that Ashley will not get his free world wide advertising.

    He will miss out on the vast TV money deals.

    And it will be easier to campaign against him if he is not getting the above.

    What I mean is while he is getting the free advertising and TV money nothing is going to shift him.

    What he is doing to the club and it’s supporters is being done out of spite, Llambias said himself “You don’t know how nasty we can be”. Well now we do.

    We shall never be able to move forward under Ashley, as his hatred for us runs too deep, but that hatred now runs both ways.

    For the sake of the club the fans have to get Ashley out, there is no other alternative, Ashley is not going to change his ways, and that fans have had enough.

    Ashley Out


  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    May 17, 2015 at 7:52 AM

    Comment #29

    Why should the players bother/care next week when Caver has said they are not good enough. His man management skills are zero.

  • north_country_boy

    May 17, 2015 at 7:57 AM

    Comment #30

    Not sure how much everyone has realised but today’s Man U v Arsenal match could be a huge one for us. If Arsenal win then they are guaranteed to finish 3rd (draw and they will be 3rd if they beat the Mackems mid week as well) and if that happens Man U can’t finish anywhere but 4th so there’s the possibility of easing off next week against Hull (helping out old boy Bruce?) so we really need a Man U victory today to make sure 4th place is still up for grabs next weekend! Obviously a win for us next week and none of this matters but I’m afraid that W word has been lost in our vocabulary now so need to pull in all favours from elsewhere! Get your red shirts on today….UNITED!!!!

  • north_country_boy

    May 17, 2015 at 8:00 AM

    Comment #31

    Mint – great minds and all that!

  • north_country_boy

    May 17, 2015 at 8:02 AM

    Comment #32

    *sorry and I meant to make sure 3rd place is up for grabs! Too early in the morning this…….????????

  • mickalfas

    May 17, 2015 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #33

    Let’s see if our HC makes changes for next week ,as only an idiot thinks he has our best team on from the start ,i can see 0-2 at half time and as we can’t score ,completely fcuked,championship here we come

  • dannitoon

    May 17, 2015 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #34

    If SAF was in charge id be more worried… LVG will want to win…. However I’m quite looking forward to seeing sams, nolans and carrols faces when they relegate us.

  • ronniegillsbackpage

    May 17, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #35

    Here’s how it will pan out, makems on 37 points, will not get another point , newcastle draw 0-0 , big Sams not bothered iether way,hull win 1-0 , more fight than us and maybe the old pals act ? We get relegated on goal difference , end of story I’m afraid .


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