Newcastle The Contrarian Club Fighting Relegation


Over the last few months and for teams like Burnley, QPR and Leicester City all season, these teams have been fighting against relegation, and while their players may not be top players  – they give 100% and have been fighting for their clubs to keep them in the Premier League.

Some of those clubs like Sunderland, Crystal Palace, Aston Villa and West Brom have brought in new coaches who are more experienced for the task,  and all but Sunderland are now safe from relegation,  and Dick Advocaat has 7 points from their last three games.

lee charnley close-up

Lee Charnley – promoted from within

So those clubs have been fighting and picking up points to avoid relegation, and that is almost the exact opposite of what has been happening at Newcastle United.

Our players are not exactly fighting 100% for the cause, and certainly Newcastle have no plans to bring in an experienced coach, and have kept the inexperienced and struggling John Carver in place as we have moved down the table quickly, with only one point from the last ten games.

It’s very difficult to be much worse than that.

So don’t say Newcastle are not loyal to their people –  although they may also be stupid by letting sentiment get in the way of the real tough decisions that should have been made for the good of the club.

The other relegation sides have been fighting and picking up points this year, and for example former Newcastle coach Nigel Pearson at Leicester City has picked up 20 points in the last ten games, and so have gained a massive 19 points on Newcastle since the beginning of March.

And Alan Pardew and Crystal Place have picked up a massive 19 points on Newcastle since the beginning of the year, when he rejoined his former club and quickly saved them form relegation, and are now in 12th place just 2 points out of 10th place.

So while other clubs are fighting and picking up points for their survival Newcastle seem to be doing almost the opposite.

And because of that we deserve to be relegated, and that will teach Lee Charnley and Mike Ashley a huge lesson that their penny-pinching in January could cost the club £80M a season (based on finishing about middle of the table) next season, and the three seasons after next an average of £136M when the new £5.1B (with a B)  Premier League TV deal kicks in.

That’s until Newcastle return to England’s top division – whenever that may be.

It’s all a very sad story at Newcastle United, and fans have become disenchanted with the frugal and seemingly reckless way the club is being run from the top.

That should come as no surprise to any person linked in any way with the club.

It’s a sad state of affairs on Tyneside.

Comments welcome.


71 comments so far

  • Rotonda heights

    May 17, 2015 at 1:57 PM

    Comment #1

    yesterday was another clear case of nicking something out of the AP coaching manual. At 1-0 we tried to shut up shop and surrendered all intiative, from being in a good position. It rarely worked for AP and never has for carver. these people never learn.

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  • optimistic prime

    May 17, 2015 at 2:01 PM

    Comment #2

    Ye that’ll teach them

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  • Ron Knee

    May 17, 2015 at 2:08 PM

    Comment #3

    Great Milner goal.

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  • JamesToon

    May 17, 2015 at 2:09 PM

    Comment #4

    We have £34million sat in the bank a long with the TV money if we stay up, it really cannot be hard to pay off carver/woodman/stone’s contracts and bring in new staff, the club needs a fresh start and surely after this disastrous season the club cannot cannot still be blinded that they want to keep carver/stone/woodman.

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 17, 2015 at 2:14 PM

    Comment #5

    Band B,

    Sorry you lost me, you disappeared a bit, to where I’m not sure, one can only hazard a guess. Possibly you were being deliberately a bit obtuse. Who knows but hey, if it made you feel good to have a pop, albeit very obscurely I’m glad.

    I’m not really sure if you wanted me to list 3 pro or cons for Ashley.

    My cons, there are more than 3 I can assure you are namely and I will drip feed this is in no particular order to avoid a tsunami

    1) his staff appointments
    2) his tacky billboard ads around the stadium 3) Wonga.

    Pros: I wasn’t really aware of any no matter how much you apparently continue to allude to it. You’re intelligent, so it will be a bit strange when you feel the need yet again to come back with another asanine comment or 2.

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  • scout

    May 17, 2015 at 2:16 PM

    Comment #6

    Dont support players who dont try. Anyone going to the west ham game needs a brain transplant.

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  • LeedsMag

    May 17, 2015 at 2:16 PM

    Comment #7

    We cannot beat WHU next week with a coach who cant motivate or pick the best team.One positive this season was the form of Abeid before injury – a natural replacement for Tiote.Why is Taylor still playing ahead of him.Everyone – except JC apparently – knows after a very long injury lay off,adrenaline gets you through a couple of games but then the reaction occurs – he has been running on empty for several weeks

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  • sickandtired

    May 17, 2015 at 2:16 PM

    Comment #8

    “So don’t say Newcastle are not loyal to their people – although they may also be stupid by letting sentiment get in the way of the real tough decisions that should have been made for the good of the club.”

    Sentiment? SENTIMENT? Ed – seriously, do you truly believe anything other than the cheapest option is what Ashley and Charnley have pursued? Despite the utter failure of Carver and his fellow Coaches, they remain under contract until 2020. This Club will never attract a suitable manager (which is surely needed rather than a Coach) under those circumstances.
    The Ashley model is, was, and always will be utterly flawed and on course for failure season after season no matter which league we end up in.
    If he doesn’t get out of town he needs to go back to square one in a hurry. Appoint an ambitious achieving Manager, provide him with funds to have his own staff and players, and stop being a control freak by letting the person get on with the job.
    No more Carvers, Pardews, Charnleys, Kinnears, Wise or Jimenez’s. Get a KK figure back here and let him do the job.

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  • theartfuldodger

    May 17, 2015 at 2:17 PM

    Comment #9

    We seem to have reached a stage where we are not in a position to rebuild.
    We do not have personnel with any expertise in rebuilding or in football for that that matter.
    We have no attraction power to get a manager.
    Our model is exposed and proved useless
    No player with footballing reasons will come here anymore. Not for the club or shirt anyways.

    The only thing I get some satisfaction from is Charnleys pleading. Earlier answers from the club were full of arrogance. Its being tempered down and will need to go down furthur.

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  • mecannylad

    May 17, 2015 at 2:19 PM

    Comment #10

    Surely, but surely – and irrespective of the potential outcome – the owner of Newcastle United Football Club should be planning to be in attendance at next Sunday’s pivotal game ?
    Surely?…….
    Damned if he does … damned if he doesn’t.
    Over to you Mr Ashley ….. I bet you are crapping those big fat trousers of yours.

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  • sing in the corner

    May 17, 2015 at 2:23 PM

    Comment #11

    Dennis twice

    Can I just ask… is your blog persona based on Jimmy Two Times from Goodfellas??

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  • sing in the corner

    May 17, 2015 at 2:32 PM

    Comment #12

    And while i’m at it…was I trippin or did I really read that Carver was blaming our performance / result yesterday on the ‘hot weather’.
    Seriously, if Ashley appoints Carver at the end of this debacle I think i will just wink out of existence.
    If he does, its proof positive that Ashley’s primary objective is solely to antagonise the supporters

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  • BandB

    May 17, 2015 at 2:34 PM

    Comment #13

    Rotonda

    You were, perhaps even more than Catchy, the champion of the idea that all the blame for everything wrong with the club was Pardew’s.

    Well, he’s gone…..

    Since then you have transferred all your never-diminishing talent for blame-apportioning to everyone….except Ashley.

    Now, you are a man happy to complain that other people never seem to learn from the blindingly bleedin’ obvious.

    Ashley’s staff appointments are a classic case in point. You have rubbished them all in turn. But I never see you holding Ashley responsible for making them. You claim you do, and you will if pushed. But you prefer to point the finger at everyone but the culprit. I wonder why this is so.

    Toonbrother at least has the virtue of being brief. And if you want to deploy a big word in a devastating put-down, it helps to choose one you can spell.

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  • toon kk

    May 17, 2015 at 2:38 PM

    Comment #14

    James toon
    your right what you say but MA just doesn’t understand the type of changes that need to be made.
    A coach is a coach.
    a player is a player, regardless of quality.

    It all boils down to a business but he’s pushed his luck to the limit. Unfortunately fans thought it was all down to Pards our poor form until he left.

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  • MonkseatonMag

    May 17, 2015 at 2:40 PM

    Comment #15

    Newcastle United MUST be saved. To make Ashley sell we must make his life difficult.

    1. Boycott the West Ham game.
    2. Boycott Sports Direct
    3. “Laugh” at anybody wearing a Wonga top (The sign of support of his evil regime)

    Lastly….

    #Whatever happens, and for the long term future of OUR club, do NOT renew your season tickets.

    #Whatever happens, and for the long term future of OUR club, do NOT renew your season tickets.

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  • toon kk

    May 17, 2015 at 2:52 PM

    Comment #16

    Swansea back to 2 all, gomis

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  • jane

    May 17, 2015 at 2:54 PM

    Comment #17

    MonkseatonMag if people don’t renew their season ticket other people will go instead.

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  • MacToon

    May 17, 2015 at 2:54 PM

    Comment #18

    “Football clubs are community assets and should be treated as such. Nowhere is that more applicable than Newcastle, and nowhere is it being so flagrantly ignored. It is a disgusting disgrace that such an institution is being used to sell crap trainers and dodgy loans while lining the pockets of a fat, rich businessman from the affluent North London suburb of Totteridge while the league stands idly by and lets it happen, congratulating itself on its latest gross television deal which will only exacerbate this particular situation further”

    The truest words said all weekend and not even the words of someone affiliated with the North East but a football fan, deputy news editor of C21 Media and editor of LoftforWords a QPR based fanzine. Clive Whittingham, well said.

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  • Ron Knee

    May 17, 2015 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #19

    toon kk
    It’s a great match – I mean today’s!

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  • 2_goal_tino

    May 17, 2015 at 2:57 PM

    Comment #20

    Wonder how much the club regret turning down Gomis now despite chasing him for 18 months, basically telling him to run down his contract, him learning English in the last year of his contract in anticipation of the move but then June last year we said “we’re confident in getting our top striking targets after the WC”. Even after agreeing terms with Swansea his agent offered him to us again…but no.

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  • jane

    May 17, 2015 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #21

    it would be good if Man U could still catch city on the last day.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    May 17, 2015 at 3:01 PM

    Comment #22

    Stig
    Sadly he did indeed blame the hot (mildly warm!) conditions!

    Only one bright sunshine should effect is Colback through fear of combustion

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  • Ron Knee

    May 17, 2015 at 3:01 PM

    Comment #23

    … and we got Rivière instead. What a deal!

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  • jane

    May 17, 2015 at 3:01 PM

    Comment #24

    spoke too soon

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  • NezzaNUFC

    May 17, 2015 at 3:08 PM

    Comment #25

    Bad Karma will get MA in the end, already the Government have placed investigations towards SD, MA and shareholders and it won’t be long until the government investigate Newcastle United because of MA and the advertising laws.

    for instant SD shareholders are suppose to pay Newcastle for advertising there brand in and around NUFC, MA doesn’t have to because he owns NUFC 100% but doesn’t own SD 100%, and MA can’t pocket the advertising money from the SD shareholders to NUFC because MA doesn’t own the stadium itself ( I think it’s the council property )

    Due to legal reason the shareholders of SD have broken the business law and this could cost MA his title as a businessman, thus this would also lead to the british government contacting the FA about the illegal situation concerning MA and Newcastle, and the FA could suspend MA from any football affiliations and could force him to sell up ASAP and even for a lower price.

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  • dave 1961

    May 17, 2015 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #26

    Our fans are not very bright to say the least, some might even say thick, let me explain things as simply as i can for you, some one throws a brick and puts your window out, lets call him (Ashley might as well have a girls name the fanny he is), and lets call the brick cava (a cheap bubbly with little bottle) who do you blame for the smashed window, the brick or the prick that’s thrown it, in simple terms the cause or the affect.

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  • toon kk

    May 17, 2015 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #27

    Its sad to think of all the real quality player’s we’ve had over the years and we’ve ended up on the brink of relegation again, with a squad of flops coached by a clueless idiot.

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  • jane

    May 17, 2015 at 3:29 PM

    Comment #28

    dave i’m sure that analogy falls down somewhere but I can’t work out where 🙂

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  • cyprus

    May 17, 2015 at 3:31 PM

    Comment #29

    Ok ManU,
    please do us the favour, we can’t alone, obviously… Probably draw next game and we’ll need ManU to get some kind of result from Hull. Surely… Concerned about a 0-1 and our hoals against.

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  • jane

    May 17, 2015 at 3:34 PM

    Comment #30

    “Its sad to think of all the real quality player’s we’ve had over the years”

    and haven’t had eg Michael Carrick

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  • Wandering Geordie

    May 17, 2015 at 3:36 PM

    Comment #31

    Yesterday was the day that my love for my stopped after 44years and the day that Newcastle United died…RIP……….

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  • jane

    May 17, 2015 at 3:37 PM

    Comment #32

    imagine the agony if we are losing against WHU towards the end and Hull and Man U are drawing.

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  • Ron Knee

    May 17, 2015 at 3:40 PM

    Comment #33

    Wandering
    You could argue that NUFC died on 15 June 2007, the day Fatso took a controlling interest in the club.

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  • John Tudor

    May 17, 2015 at 3:54 PM

    Comment #34

    The intended victim was stripped naked and then firmly fastened within the interior space of two narrow rowing boats (or hollowed-out tree trunks) joined together one on top of the other with the head, hands and feet protruding. The condemned was forced to ingest milk and honey to the point of developing a severe bowel movement and diarrhea, and more honey would be poured on him to attract insects, with special attention devoted to the eyes, ears, mouth, genitals, and anus. In some cases, the executioner would mix milk and honey and pour that mixture all over the victim. He would then be left to float on a stagnant pond or be exposed to the sun. The defenseless individual’s feces accumulated within the container, attracting more insects which would eat and breed within his exposed flesh which, pursuant to interruption of the blood supply by burrowing insects became increasingly gangrenous. The individual would lie naked, covered from head to toe in milk, honey, and their own feces. The feeding would be repeated each day in some cases to prolong the torture, so that fatal dehydration or starvation did not occur. Death, when it eventually occurred, was probably due to a combination of dehydration, starvation and septic shock. Delirium would typically set in after a few days. what a way to go fatman

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  • toon kk

    May 17, 2015 at 3:54 PM

    Comment #35

    Jane
    last time we went down. I think we were all devastated, if we go down this time I know we’ll be disappointed but we’ve been heading down for months and deserve it. Thanks to MA and his flawed running of the club.

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  • Moonraker15

    May 17, 2015 at 3:58 PM

    Comment #36

    If Man U don’t beat Arsenal today, they can’t finish above Arsenal even by beating Hull, so they will probably play a weakened team ! I’m assuming Arsenal beat the Mackems on Wednesday !

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  • Moonraker15

    May 17, 2015 at 4:01 PM

    Comment #37

    I think every company has a Lee Charnley who has “smooched” his way to the top ! Snidey tw@t !

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  • Obertan's better than Messi

    May 17, 2015 at 4:02 PM

    Comment #38

    This club deserves relegation.

    Not my club.
    Not since Ashley bought 100% of the shares.

    He’s used and abused this club for too long.
    Enough is enough.

    Cut the cancer out now.

    #ASHLEYOUT

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  • dave 1961

    May 17, 2015 at 4:06 PM

    Comment #39
  • Big Archie

    May 17, 2015 at 4:17 PM

    Comment #40

    Got to the second paragraph and stopped reading.

    “Sunderland, Crystal Palace, Aston Villa and West Brom have brought in new coaches who are more experienced”

    West Brom got Pulis because he’s been turfed by Palace, who got Pardew who had been hounded out by Newcastle fans, with Villa getting Sherwood , who had been sacked by Spurs 5 months into an 18 month contract.

    They didn’t bring in more experienced coaches at all. With the exception of Sunderland, they all brought in basically what equated to barrel scrapings.

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