Carver Pulling Out All The Stops To Get The Win Tomorrow


We’re sure that John Carver has gone through hell and high water these past 12 weeks, when we haven’t been able to get one win and we have only one point from 10 games, but John knows that if his team can beat an out of form West Ham side tomorrow – at least we will be safe and be able to look forward to Premier League football again next season.

john carver at QPR

John Carver – hopes to get the win tomorrow

Also fans around the world will be able o see every single Newcastle game  live, which is not true if we are playing in the second division – in fact we’ll see very few of the games.

John has obviously thought long and hard since the debacle in the second half at QPR last weekend,  and has talked about things he has thought about doing to try to motivate our players:

“I don’t think I’ll be asking the likes of Colo and Jonas to talk about the day at Aston Villa when Newcastle were relegated in 2009, but I did talk about their experiences in the meeting.”

“They’ve experienced this – Ryan Taylor and Tim Krul were here as well – so they know what it feels like. I talked about their experiences and how they had to deal with what came next, because it wasn’t nice.”

“I considered showing them something to reinforce what it’s like to be in the Premier League compared to what it’s like to be in the next division down.”

“This is what it’s like to go to Old Trafford, the Emirates and Stamford Bridge’ compared to ‘This is what it’s like to go to the lesser clubs with a smaller changing room and all of that’.”

“I thought about showing them the fans after the Aston Villa game, but I decided against it because I think if you can’t motivate yourself for a game as big as this, when you’ve got so much to play, then no matter I show you, it’s not going to make any difference.”

“I remember seeing Alan Shearer on the pitch afterwards, watching it on the TV, and on that day I genuinely didn’t speak for an hour afterwards. I thought, ‘I hope that never, ever happens to me’.”

“As it happens, I saw him the other day and we talked about what his feelings were, and I told him what I felt at the time. I just said, ‘I hope I don’t have to experience that’. Hopefully, I don’t.”

“I was in a pub. Newcastle played Middlesbrough a week or so before that, and I came over from Canada for that game. It was a difficult time.”

We all probably remember what it was like back on May 24th, 2009 when we were relegated – and it’s not something that’s very pleasant – that’s for sure.

If we can survive tomorrow it will a be a huge (make that gigantic) relief, and then  we can talk (again) about what went wrong.

But if the Newcastle hierarchy ignore the mistakes that were made at the top, we’ll be in the same position in a year or so.

If we do survive tomorrow, the most important signing this summer is the new head coach – and we hope it’s somebody from the outside – like a Remi Garde who can bring in his own coaching staff.

If it’s Steve McClaren or John Carver (or both with Carver the assistant) – which is more than likely – we will be fighting relegation again next year at the time.

And it will show the Newcastle hierarchy are simply unwilling to learn from their many mistakes.

That would not be good for the club,  and yes – that’s a huge understatement.

What do you think?



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109 comments so far

  • BandB

    May 23, 2015 at 9:23 AM

    Comment #1

    MIKE ASHLEY’S BLACK AND BLUE ARMY

    Tomorrow, Newcastle United will take the field to attempt to avoid relegation for the second time in six years.

    Come on Mike Ashley’s blue, black and white army.

    The black and blue fans have been urged to forget this bruising season and the fact the bruises are all due to an endemic pattern of self-harm.

    Any shortfall attributable to neglect can be offset, we are told, by the fans almost physically carrying the team “across the line.”

    And if you don’t, shame on you.

    Shame on you from John Carver. The man is a bigger fan than any of you. He’s got his dream job and a career to think of. It’s not your club. It’s his club.

    Shame of you from Lee Charnley, who said at Christmas that 10th place was our minimum target. The man who suggested all the sacrifices in ambition the club has made was a price worth paying for top-flight football.

    And shame on you from Mike Ashley,c who has saved your club…from success.
    One season in the Championship, and three relegation battles. That’s half his tenure in charge. Shame on you if you aren’t there to cheer the team on Mike’s behalf. He’s boycotting.

    You would think from the tone of club propaganda over the last three weeks that beating the boycott was more important than beating the drop.

    Once again it seems it is the fans and not the other 19 clubs Mr Ashley and his nodding-dog employees see as the problem. The enemy to be overcome.

    While pleading for unity they have deployed, in truth, their usual divide and rule tactics.

    “Come and get behind the lads! It’s your job.”

    Well, you have a job, Mr Ashley. And you, Mr Charnley. You too Mr Carver. And you Mr Coloccini.

    Jobs most of those being asked to save the club now could only dream of, at rates of pay they couldn’t dream of.

    So on Sunday, why don’t you just cut the crap, and do it?

    On behalf of Howay the Fans.

    HWTF
    WearnoWonga
    Ashley Out.

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  • BandB

    May 23, 2015 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #2

    Hi Toon Fans,

    The time is here, the final game of the 2014/15 season. Many of us had thought (hoped) that we would be able to go in to this game not having to worry about our PL status. For well covered reasons, we aren’t. Newcastle United are one of two teams trying to avoid relegation on Sunday.

    We have for the past while been calling on all Toon fans to show their solidarity with their fellow Toon fans by posting “HTWF” (Howay The Fans) in a single post on the blog. We’re asking you to do the same from now, up until the final whistle tomorrow (Saturday 23rd May 2015).

    We will be doing an end of season “HWTF” roll of honour – This is your last chance this season to be part of it.

    We’re not focusing on the club or the players this week. The biggest sufferers are the fans, and they’re the ones who have been doing there bit all the way through. They should not be made to feel guilt for our situation, they deserve much better. Let’s all take a moment to celebrate ourselves, the true heart of this once great club.

    HWTF

    On behalf of Howay The Fans NUFC.

    #AshleyOut
    #WearNoWonga
    #HWTFNUFC

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  • Ron Knee

    May 23, 2015 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #3

    ofd
    Thanks! For a minute there I felt like the David Irving of the blog! (David Irving – Holocaust denier or revisionist)

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  • one fine day

    May 23, 2015 at 9:32 AM

    Comment #4

    Thought this was fitting
    http://youtu.be/DXQHW5ANz0I
    I ask if you are going then turn the place into a cauldron for 95 mins
    If we go down let’s show the premier league what they will be missing.
    And like wise if we win at 90 mins make the world know how we feel about the dispicable one
    Stay and show the world what we think until they bring in dogs water canons. Who cares. Make it a point
    #hwtf
    # wear no wonga
    # Ashleyout.com

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  • one fine day

    May 23, 2015 at 9:33 AM

    Comment #5

    Ron knee
    Could be worse. You could have felt like Jeff/jane or welsh 🙂

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  • hibbit

    May 23, 2015 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #6

    if you must go to the game please DON’T WEAR WONGA ………ashley and wonga OUT

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  • one fine day

    May 23, 2015 at 9:37 AM

    Comment #7

    Hibbit
    Great minds n all that

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  • Ron Knee

    May 23, 2015 at 9:37 AM

    Comment #8

    ofd
    What’s happened to Jeff these days?

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  • one fine day

    May 23, 2015 at 9:37 AM

    Comment #9

    Think we need Santiago Munez on the bench for sunday

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  • hibbit

    May 23, 2015 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #10

    Ron he cross dresses he likes to be called jane now !!

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  • Ron Knee

    May 23, 2015 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #11

    hibbit
    I’ll watch out for that!

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  • lesh

    May 23, 2015 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #12

    Sorry Ed, I have to disagree when you’re trying to be supportive of Carver’s approach to Sunday.

    Again, he’s focussing on the negatives and clearly doesn’t realise that a number of players have no real emotional attachment to Newcastle United.

    Most of ’em will be off in the summer, some to decent, progressive clubs and Carver’s approach to them has been amateurish to say the least.

    Look at Advocaat’s approach, playing to players’ egos, their strengths where friend Carver’s been like a bull in a china shop. He doesn’t seem to inspire the players at all – if anything setting himself up as a joke, a negative person.

    Given Pardew’s record, I wonder whether it could have been bettered if he hadn’t had Carver as is number two?

    Carver really has shown his true colours and abilities and in the light of that, he really ought to be released to find another job that could use his obvious talents – say motivating ISIS fighters!

    Now that might have benefits for the world at large!!

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  • one fine day

    May 23, 2015 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #13

    Rumours are he had the opp. 🙂
    Seriously was he banned ?
    Sure some of the blog elite can shed some some light

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  • John Tudor

    May 23, 2015 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #14

    cant believe some cretins still blaming genuine fans for this demise get a fcukin grip

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  • optimistic prime

    May 23, 2015 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #15

    Ofd

    I don’t know if he got banned but I’m convinced he’s now jane.
    Strange that he/she isn’t best pals with the troll from the valleys anymore.

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  • John Tudor

    May 23, 2015 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #16

    tobermory oot

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  • Ron Knee

    May 23, 2015 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #17

    JT
    Am I the cretin you’re referring to? To re-repeat, when the post-mortem is held, the Board will likely blame supporters (directly or by implication) for our plight.

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  • John Tudor

    May 23, 2015 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #18

    post mortem refers to something dead and if you are blaming fans you should be ashamed, cretin may have been too harsh a word numpty

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  • John Tudor

    May 23, 2015 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #19

    and the board, ha don’t make me laugh
    they don’t exist coz if the did they would have never let it get in this state

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  • dantoon85

    May 23, 2015 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #20

    Get behind the team for 90 mins tomorrow and then whatever the result all fans should stay in St James’s and protest against gru and his minions. That’s what I would do anyway

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  • MrMojoRisin76

    May 23, 2015 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #21

    HWTF.

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  • John Tudor

    May 23, 2015 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #22

    stay away
    its their fault

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  • John Tudor

    May 23, 2015 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #23

    i for one will be back after they have long gone que sara sara

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  • dantoon85

    May 23, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #24

    Evil will prevail if good men stand by and do nothing

    #ashleyout

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  • John Tudor

    May 23, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #25

    boards post mortem biggest laugh ever

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  • Ron Knee

    May 23, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #26

    JT
    I think we’re talking at cross purposes here. I’m as anti-Ashley as you seem to be. My point was that the protests – which I fully support – will be exploited by the Board to cover up their incompetence.

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  • optimistic prime

    May 23, 2015 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #27

    The only regret I have about Pardew leaving is that he got to walk and wasn’t sacked. I’m happy he’s gone!

    I’ll be even happier if Ashley decides to walk due to the pressure from AO the fans and media.

    A win for the toon tomorrow

    HWTF

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  • John Tudor

    May 23, 2015 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #28

    no ron you said i called you a cretin i believe and the comment i made was open ended no confusion on my behalf and no offence intended
    HWTF

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  • John Tudor

    May 23, 2015 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #29

    inferred i called you a cretin
    it was intended for those who know who they are

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  • Ron Knee

    May 23, 2015 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #30

    JT
    None taken!

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  • John Tudor

    May 23, 2015 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #31

    as people say on here its time to stand up and fight the regime not ourselves

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  • JAMSHA(CARVER SLAYER)

    May 23, 2015 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #32

    Relax, Just Played FIFA 15 MAtch Day.. We Won 2-0 Against WHU, Raylor & Colback To Score

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  • JAMSHA(CARVER SLAYER)

    May 23, 2015 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #33

    once we are safe…lets all stand togather an get ashely an co out b4 the nxt season starts

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  • jayphoto

    May 23, 2015 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #34

    Carver is trying to motivate the players by what motivates him! But they have different priorities, he doesn’t understand the psychology of motivation!
    His problem is his core wants to leave! Krul, Coloccini and sissoko all want out. In truth relegation would make it easier for them to leave for smaller transfer fees meaning they get the pick of more clubs or either higher wages!
    Secondly, Williamson, Taylor, Ameobi will possibly all stay if we drop whereas if we stay up they’ll most likely be traipsing around places like Rotherham, sheffield etc looking for a club!
    Too many players benefit from relegation!
    The only ones that are good enough for premier league and don’t benefit from the drop are Dummett, Colback, Perez, Cabella and Riviere as they will all be here next year regardless

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  • John Tudor

    May 23, 2015 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #35

    jamsha we will never be safe

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  • Klatoon

    May 23, 2015 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #36

    im not even nervous for tomorrow. They are going to get the win…easily too and then we will be left asking ourselves why they couldnt perform like that every week?? Then they will do their lap of honor and i want you all to pay keen interest to the body language of Sissoko and Colo as they clap the fans

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  • optimistic prime

    May 23, 2015 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #37

    Jayphoto

    I’d have dropped colo and Sissoko months ago, they’re as bad for that team as Ashley is for NUFC and they’re the captains FFS.

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  • John Tudor

    May 23, 2015 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #38

    and krul if we had another keeper

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  • dave 1961

    May 23, 2015 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #39

    The club want fans to get behind the team as the want to sell tickets its as simple as that, you did not need a Cristal ball to see this coming a bit of common sense would have been enough.

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  • hibbit

    May 23, 2015 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #40

    will ashley be at the game i don’t think so not even sure we will see him in the ground again……the puppets will carry on with his work there used to be a saying the customer is always right just remember we are the customers and we are right… ASHLEY OUT

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