The Disaster Scenario Could Still Happen At Newcastle

John Carver goes on holiday tomorrow, and he will be making his case that he should be the new head coach at Newcastle before then, and that’s even though his poor coaching and man-management skills plunged Newcastle into a relegation scrap at the end of the season.

John got only 13 points in the 19 league games he managed when the club had their worst losing streak ever by  in the Premier League – eight games lost on the trot.

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John Carver – wants the job

So if you look at the record and the facts, John seems to have a much better case to be fired than to get the head coach job.

That’s based on the facts and his results.

His man-management skills in particular are very poor and in his press conferences it was all about himself – which is one way he seems to upset his players – so John exacerbated the situation.

This is his record of managing 19 league game s and one FA Cup game this year.

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That would be 26 points over a full season of 38 games and certain relegation.

And certainly the Newcastle fans do not want to see him in the head coach position, since many think he not only embarrassed himself but also embarrassed the club over these last five months with some of his rantings to the press.

Should John Carver Now Get Head Coach Position?

  • No (97%, 9,064 Votes)
  • Yes (3%, 233 Votes)

Total Voters: 9,297

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In any normal club John Carver would have absolutely no chance of getting the job,  but the obvious inexperience of Lee Charnley as a manager and top executive could yet play a part.

That could mean Lee could appoint John Carver to the position, and it would be more because he gets on with him and John wouldn’t upset things on Tyneside and certainly wouldn’t complain.

John Carver would be a disastrous choice as head coach – but Newcastle are being run so poorly by Managing Director Lee Charnley these days that it’s more than just a possibility.

It took a lot of work to have Newcastle struggling in the league after we were 4th top at the end of November.

Lee Charnley and John Carver are the two figures at Newcastle most culpable for that.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.

19 comments so far

  • optimistic prime

    May 26, 2015 at 8:41 AM

    Comment #1

    So it’s the wally with the brolly or the cabbage with the baggage

    None of the above

  • John Tudor

    May 26, 2015 at 8:41 AM

    Comment #2

    carver in im out period

  • cestriasteve

    May 26, 2015 at 8:48 AM

    Comment #3

    Surely he can’t be appointed in any capacity for NUFC. If Charnley does that then he must know he’s signed his own end to his farcical appointment.

    NUFC need to make a quick appointment in the next 7 days or disaster looms.

  • Bambams

    May 26, 2015 at 8:54 AM

    Comment #4

    Still hopeful there is mileage in what Garde said in February I think when he was commentating on Toon match (City perhaps?)…
    “I have a confidentiality contract with Newcastle and cannot say anything “(or words similar)

    I read it somewhere so it must be true!!!

  • Toon-Barmy

    May 26, 2015 at 8:58 AM

    Comment #5

    This summer is set to be a summer of change at St. James Park.
    Not only are the magpies in desperate need of a new manager but there will also be a significant number of new players needed, here’s why.

    Newcastle have eight players out of contract at the end of this season;
    Jonas Gutierrez, Ryan Taylor, Sammy Ameobi, Jak Alnwick, Remie Streete, Lubomir Satka and Adam Campbell. The loan of Facundo Ferreyra will also come to an end.

    Davide Santon has apparently triggered a clause in his loan agreement at Inter Milan. After playing ten games the deal will become permanent for around £2.8 million. This decision was supposedly made due to the fact that Santons’ contract was due to expire at the end of next season.

    With those nine players out of the door, Newcasle are left with 34 contracted players.
    Eleven of those, as was the case with Santon, are out of contract at the end of next season:

    Fabricio Coloccini, Mike Williamson, Steven Taylor, Sylvain Marveaux, Gabriel Obertan, Rob Elliot, Mehdi Abeid, Shane Ferguson, Haris Vuckic, Kevin Mbabu & Alex Gilliead.

    It seems unlikely that any of them will be offered new contracts, so Mike Ashley will undoubtedly try to unload them while they still have some value.

    That leaves the toon with the following 23 players:
    GK: Tim Krul (HG)
    GK: Karl Darlow (HG)
    GK: Freddie Woodman (HG)
    DF: Daryl Janmaat
    DF: Paul Dummett (HG)
    DF: Massadio Haidara
    DF: Jamaal Lascelles (HG)
    DF: Curtis Good
    MF: Moussa Sissoko
    MF: Siem De Jong
    MF: Remy Cabella
    MF: Cheick Tiote
    MF: Jack Colback (HG)
    MF: Vurnon Anita
    MF: Gael Bigirimana (HG)
    MF: Rolando Aarons (HG)
    MF: Olivier Kemen
    MF: Callum Roberts (HG)
    MF: Yoan Gouffran
    CF: Papiss Cisse
    CF: Ayoze Perez
    CF: Emmanuel Rivière
    CF: Adam Armstrong (HG)

    That means we could see around twenty players leave Newcastle this summer, possibly even more. Taking those players out of an already poor squad is going to have a huge impact, especially in defence, with Coloccini, Williamson, S. Taylor and Santon all likely to be gone.
    Several of the players who remain are also being linked with moves away.
    Cheick Tiote, Emmanuel Rivière and Gael Bigirimana have hardly set the world alight in recent times, prompting speculation that they too could be out of the door.
    There will no doubt be “bigger and better” teams interested in Newcastles’ few prized assets, messers Krul, Janmaat, Sissoko, Cabella, Cisse and Ayoze Perez simply have to be retained, otherwise the Necastle hierarchy will find themselves needing to go out and buy an entire squad!

    Another thing to remember is that players such as Darlow, Woodman, Lascelles, Good, Aarons, Kemen, Roberts and Armstrong are largely untested at the top level.

    All of this equates to a whole heap of trouble, if the club doesn’t invest in at least twelve quality players they could find themselves in a very difficult situation.

  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    May 26, 2015 at 8:58 AM

    Comment #6

    If carver gets the job, i’d have to capitalize my blog handle and underline it.

    It would be an insult to Jonas’ fairy tale ending if he did all that work on sunday just to let Carvup destroy it.

  • Owldman

    May 26, 2015 at 9:00 AM

    Comment #7

    Another name thrown into the ring this morning on SKY SPORTS NEWS ! Jimmy Llloyd doubt the bookies will be hoping punters will pile in & help to build up their holiday money, after all it is expensive in the Bahamas.

  • lesh

    May 26, 2015 at 9:01 AM

    Comment #8

    Ed, do I get the impression you’ve some doubts about Carver?

    Reposted from previous thread before this one appeared!

    No matter whether or who comes in as HC, Carver should be sent packing.

    He’d feel resentful at working for a new HC and feel some resentment at not being appointed to the post and thus potentially troublesome..

    It’s incredible that he still considers himself worthy of the job, despite an atrocious record. Oh, I forgot that he is the self-proclaimed best HC in the Prem but the players let him down.

    Carver’s record speaks for itself and he’s clearly not up to coaching at Premiership level.

    Whilst Charnley may feel some loyalty toward Carver, Ashley’s requirement for value from his investment should force him to think again before Ashley fingers him and he’s sacked along with Carver.

    I’m confident that Ashley will not take another season like last,

    In Ashley’s eyes, his business is not charity but making money so Charnley really needs to get rid of Carver, before we have another chaotic season.

  • Obertan's better than Messi

    May 26, 2015 at 9:01 AM

    Comment #9

    You get what you deserve.

    Accept mediocrity. Sit on your hands, don’t protest.

    You get Ashley, Charnley, Carver all spinning and lying to their customers.

    Enjoy it Ed. You deserve it more than the rest.

    I’m not wasting anymore of my last few years on this club.
    I don’t believe a word. from Ashley.

    He’ll begin the cycle of investing and selling.
    Massive investment this year and then nothing …




  • nut meg

    May 26, 2015 at 9:01 AM

    Comment #10

    Get this head coach appointment wrong and there is no hiding place for Ashley or Charley. Carver / McClaren wouldn’t be accepted by the fans & needs to be someone with no previous connections to NUFC. If Ashley was a promising young squash player when he was younger ( as has been mentioned many times ) would he not have wanted to be coached by the best man around to give himself a chance to become the best player he could possibly be?? Carver,Stone,Beardsley,Woodman are most definitely not the best coaches around!!

  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    May 26, 2015 at 9:02 AM

    Comment #11


    Fat eddie murphy? They’re scraping the barrel already for names 😀

  • Bambams

    May 26, 2015 at 9:04 AM

    Comment #12

    Toon – barmy
    Well written article

  • NezzaNUFC

    May 26, 2015 at 9:06 AM

    Comment #13

    If Carver or McClaren steps in the head coach role then we are f@cked even before the season starts.

    Revolt if this happens, and aim at Lee Charnley and other staff at SJP, MA will no doubt sack LC & CO because the last thing he needs is more turmoil before the season starts.

  • lesh

    May 26, 2015 at 9:08 AM

    Comment #14


    A very good point about Jonas’s efforts on Sunday.

    Although Carver’ll probably claim credit for that too!

    Get JC out – quickish!!

  • Laurent Robert 32

    May 26, 2015 at 9:08 AM

    Comment #15

    How have our two Forest loan players been doing?

  • sickandtired

    May 26, 2015 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #16

    Saved, on the last day of the season. The Club is still going to receive almost 76 million from TV revenue this season. The new deal will mean up to 70% MORE.
    What incentive does that give Ashley to change?

  • BoyDoneGood

    May 26, 2015 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #17


    Something wrong with your poll software – it’s allowed JC to vote 138 times. Or maybe that’s just mackem nomads passing through.

  • ArtyH

    May 26, 2015 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #18

    Wouldn’t let either one clean the bogs at St James Park.

  • widowmagandapoke

    May 26, 2015 at 2:18 PM

    Comment #19

    One of the unknown factors at NUFC is what is Lee Charnley’s background.. Googled him and all that came up was a piece by the chron saying only that he has come up through the ranks. One worry is that he is in close cahoots with JC. Another is does he have enough bottle ((or nous) to know who to recruit and go for those players? In Ashley’s shoes I would certainly want a wise (not Denis) head in this important role.


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