Local Lad Tells It Like It Is About Newcastle’s Collapse


Jack Colback can be happy enough about his performances for Newcastle in his first season at his home town club, and not only was Jack very consistent for us, but he also seems the consummate professional and a smashing lad.

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Jack Colback – excellent first season for the local lad

When we signed him as a free agent last summer, we didn’t realise he was as good as he is – so he’s been a great signing for us – not doubt about that.

It’s been a huge wake-up call this year for everybody associated with Newcastle United, not least for owner Mike Ashley – as the club were almost sensationally relegated to the Championship, when everything seemed to go to hell in a hand-basket.

Jack is right when he says there should be an inquest on what happened:

“Questions have to be asked as to why this happened,” “We have to try to understand why we had such a bad demise.”

“Obviously, we had injuries and suspensions, and they didn’t help, but it’s probably a wake-up call for everybody at the club.”

“It’s a huge club, but everybody’s had a tough time with the run we’ve been on.” We didn’t really want to celebrate the fact we stayed in the league, because that should be the bare minimum.”

“We got ourselves into a difficult position in the second half of the season, and we should never have got ourselves into that mess.”

“But that’s football, and it’s a tough league.” “When you get into the kind of run that we had, it can be hard to get yourself back out.”

“At least, in the end, we did get ourselves out of it. The fans can vent their anger however they want to now, but hopefully we can forget about the season and have a really good go next season.”

Jack’s right there should be an inquest and the players have to take responsibility for their poor form and they played nowhere near their full potential.

But that’s also the job of the head coach, and if were to pinpoint the main cause of the terrible collapse we’d put the answer in two words – John Carver.

John didn’t seem to have the first clue of how to manage his players – and he made almost every elementary mistake in the book in managing the players over the last five months.

He continued to talk about himself and his ambitions to the press while at the same time roundly criticized his players in his media briefings.

And even after it was all over on Sunday afternoon, John still continued to talk about how it was good for him, and how he’ll improve because of the experience, and all that nonsense.

It’s not to say that he’s not right about that – but why tell the press all that stuff – it makes John look like he’s  self-centered and is only concerned about himself.

Every good manager knows they are only as good as their people, and it’s their job to get the very best out of them – the people are the important ones.

John failed that test quite dramatically.

It was a case study of how bad management of players can send a team to hell in a hand-basket so very quickly.

That’s one reason why the appointment of a good head coach soon – is the most important job of Lee Charnley this summer.

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38 comments so far

  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    May 27, 2015 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #1

    OP

    Yeah gutz and janmaat are pretty much the only bright sparks….. maybe perez once he matures and gets consistent.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    May 27, 2015 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #2

    No Jack, just staying in the league should not be the bare minimum. That is way below what a club of this size and with this support should be doing.

    The bare minimum should be a mid table finish with at least 1 decent cup run.

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  • davetoon

    May 27, 2015 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #3

    @Lindisfarne in previous post. Do you have a source where you read that Laudrup lost the players or that his training was sh1te?

    Every article I read at the time was that he left over the transfer budget.

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  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    May 27, 2015 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #4

    Lil

    I think Jack maybe screwed his own comments up there. At least i hope so. I’d hate to believe he really thinks survival is the acceptable bare minimum!

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  • optimistic prime

    May 27, 2015 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #5

    Mark

    I forgot about Perez 🙁

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  • lesh

    May 27, 2015 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #6

    With Colbeck saying that injuries and suspensions didn’t help the dire second half to the season, he’s contradicted Carver who blamed them as his excuse.

    Stay on your holiday John, meet and fall for donkey and stay wherever you are!

    Ibiza, he’s not in your neck of the Med is he?

    😉

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    May 27, 2015 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #7

    YCMIU,
    If he does believe that, and the other players and staff do, then it tells us everything that is wrong with this club.

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  • optimistic prime

    May 27, 2015 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #8

    On Talksport last night Laudraups name was mentioned. Someone said they’d like to know why he really left Swansea.

    Gabyadini said he knew but he couldn’t say on radio as it would cause trouble.

    Ando said “one of those”
    Gab “yip”

    Not sure what it’s meant to mean unless he’s a shagger like Percy

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    May 27, 2015 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #9

    Lesh,
    Surely he is agreeing with Carver? Of course injuries and suspensions didn’t help Carver, and were a contributing factor to our demise. There were times when we only had 2 available defenders to select from.

    Carver didn’t help himself, and he said he was happy with the squad, but to think that there weren’t other problems aside from Carver is just madness.

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  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    May 27, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #10

    Lil.

    Yeah i am hoping he meant bare minimum for the sake of the clubs future but an uancceptable minimum as far as progress and the fans are concerned. Something like that. Especially since fat bloke wants us to win something allegedly

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  • Graeme

    May 27, 2015 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #11

    Lil – from previous. I understand your point, but, given the abundance of managerial talent out there, why on earth would you display such a disconcerting lack of ambition by approaching Schteve first?

    Obviously, Penfold is as far from his comfort zone as Carver was – he simply is not equiped to deal with the task at hand!!

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    May 27, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #12

    Laudrup has fallen out with his superiors in most of his jobs. What chance would he have of getting on well with Charnley and Ashley? Not to mention having Carver as his assistant. He wouldn’t last 6 months. Even when things go well for him he rarely hangs about more than a year.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    May 27, 2015 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #13

    Graeme,
    I’m not saying I’d want McClaren. I think he is one of the better British coaches/managers with actual experience, but he is also crap under pressure. He would be like a rabbit in headlights up here. He only does well when pressure is off.

    All I was saying is that he was always likely to be asked again given the new cheap nature of the deal. Given the 4 who are supposedly on the shortlist (Garde, Carver, Laudrup and McClaren), he would probably be my second pick after Garde, although Garde is the only 1 I would actually want.

    It is not the statement of intent that gives any credence to Ashley’s alleged desire to win something with the club.

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  • optimistic prime

    May 27, 2015 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #14

    Lg

    If he’s going to come in and fall out with Ashley Charnley and Carver he sounds perfect to me 🙂

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    May 27, 2015 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #15

    OP,
    HA, but there is only 1 winner there (well 3 actually), he would end up walking as he has done often at other clubs when he has fallen out with people.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    May 27, 2015 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #16

    OP,
    And when he walks, guess who would be handed the caretaker reins? Back to square 1.

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  • Slank

    May 27, 2015 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #17

    From the first squad I would:

    Krul – Keep. Had a bad season but is not a bad keeper
    Elliott – Out. Replaced by the Forest lad.
    Janmaat – Keep. Star fullback.
    Williamson – Out. Replaced by Forest lad or ANO.
    Saylor – Keep. Need for his do or die attitude.
    Colo – Keep. But if wants to return home let him go.
    Dummitt – Keep. Very versatile left sided defender
    Haidara – Keep. Good and will get better. Good left foot.
    Tiote – Not Sure. Bad run coincided with his absence.
    Raylor – Out. Legs have gone.
    Jonas – Keep. Legs definitely haven’t gone.
    Colback – Keep. Need Geordies. Also excellent left foot.
    Sissoko – Not Sure. If big bid comes in then sell.
    Anita – Not Sure. Sell if can’t repeat Sunday every game.
    Sammy – Out. Too inconsistent.
    Obertan – Out. Not consistent enough.
    Cabella – Keep. Has skills. In good team will improve.
    Aarons – Keep. Has talent but is he injury free enough
    De Jong – Keep. Class but is he also injury free enough.
    Ferreyra – Out. Only here on loan
    Perez – Keep. A gem of a player. Resist all bids.
    Cisse – Out. Pale shadow of his former self
    Gouffran – Out. No redeeming features.
    Riviere – Keep. Has shown everything but goals that will come.

    Adam Campbell

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  • Graeme

    May 27, 2015 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #18

    Lil @ 13 – That was also the point I was making.
    If we are now about to see a new dawn as stated by Ashley and given the abundance of Talent out there, opening the game by interviewing McLaren first simply beggars belief.

    I fully agree about Garde, I think he could provide so many answers to the NUFC problem – so why wouldn’t he be your first point of call, rather than a second choice behind McLaren – that’s what worries me about Penfold.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    May 27, 2015 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #19

    Graeme,
    I didn’t really hear anything in the interview to be optimistic about, or to expect any change in how we operate, so it comes as no real shock that McClaren is the first port of call.

    I imagine Garde will want his own staff. Despite what Ashley says, it isn’t all down to Charnley, otherwise why on earth would he be allowing him to make the decision again after such a poor 6 months? Charnley would have been canned if it was his responsibility and Ashley wanted the club to kick on.

    McClaren will be cheaper than Garde, he may bring in one or two staff, but he will also be happy to keep what is currently here. Garde will want a complete overhaul (and rightly so).

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    May 27, 2015 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #20

    Jack it’s not hard to work out what happened! No need for an inquest.

    Lack of ambition from the board in January!
    Shocking injury list!
    Silly suspensions!
    Lack of heart and confidence from certain individuals!
    Players settling in due to first season!
    Manager up and left!
    Add a caretaker into the mix who is unqualified and we are in serious bother! Which we were.

    Too many gambles and another disastrous season due to a lack of strengthening and ambition from the board.

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  • Slank

    May 27, 2015 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #21

    From the reserves I would promote:

    Armstrong – Start him for once. Has the goal touch.
    Bigirimana – Has quality but gone off the boil or is ill.
    Mbabu – Must have something as why buy him.
    Abeid – Always looked good. Fallen out with Carver ?
    Vickic – Head and shoulders above all the Rangers players but are all the Rangers players just rubbish ?

    I’m sure there are others.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    May 27, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #22

    Slank,
    I’d prefer us to sign enough strikers to allow Arma to go on loan and learn his trade further. He has stagnated over this year, and another year playing bit part football will see him stagnate further, and probably ruin any chance he has of making it.

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 27, 2015 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #23

    not a chance of garde with the 3rd rate carver, watson, woodman and stone hanging around and still stinking the place out. llambias has a lot to answer for.

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 27, 2015 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #24

    colback is an extremely average player

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  • Small World

    May 27, 2015 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #25

    Slank // May 27, 2015 at 10:38 AM

    You spoke about Collocini staying. I would keep him if his heart was in it but not play him centre half. I’ve always thought he would make an excellent defensive midfielder who would be capable of closing the opposition down, also calm on the ball and having an eye for a pass.

    He simply isn’t commanding enough either in terms of stature or voice to control the defence.

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  • optimistic prime

    May 27, 2015 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #26

    Out of the first team squad I’d keep

    Cisse unless he’s replaced with better
    SDJ
    Perez
    Cabella
    Aaron’s
    Abeid
    Anita
    Jonas for bridging gap with new players and to be our cup captain.
    Janmaat
    Dummet
    Hyadra

    The rest I’m not to fussed on except a few that IMO need to be removed from the squad like Sissoko Colo Gouffran.

    IMO the squad needs gutting, open heart surgery. I wouldn’t trust Carver or Charnley to be able to handle it.
    I’m not expecting it to happen but it needs to.

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  • Slank

    May 27, 2015 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #27

    As a middle order team that flirts too regularly with relegation its unlikely that we would be attractive enough to a successful manager / head coach to risk their career and reputation.

    However, for the person that wins a trophy after so many barren years it will raise them to a higher level and possibly better clubs.

    Given our history and the list of managers who have tried and failed whoever arrives shouldn’t be under any pressure, but they will.

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  • Rotonda heights

    May 27, 2015 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #28

    slank

    keep saylor!!! his do or die attitude in the sickbay isn’t any use to anyone

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  • Small World

    May 27, 2015 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #29

    Lilongwe Geordie // May 27, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    I think under other circumstances Armstrong would have been out on loan this year, however with Cisse / De Jong injuries and having brought in two absolute 2 duck eggs, one of whom couldn’t make the bench never mind play, he was kept hanging around – to the detriment of his development.

    Thank goodness we did have Perez, who is clearly a couple of years ahead in terms of development. If not, Armstrong would have foundered totally.

    The lad has been poorly treated / managed by the club.

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  • JamesToon

    May 27, 2015 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #30

    Lilongwe

    We’ll see about Laudrup….if he hasn’t had a change of attitude about managing a football club (apparently lost interest in Swansea) then he won’t come…simple. But if he does, then maybe he has had a change of heart after being in Qatar over the last 12 months.

    In regards to his style and swansea’s style, yes the possession based style was already there, however Laudrup came in and made adjustment and IMPROVED it. He added the technical ability to it, he wa able to coach players better and pick out better players to play in the system and improved their vision, technique and awareness, they could outpass anyone under Laudrup, they never could with Rodgers, Martinez etc because it was slow and often no end product and the goals would only come from scrappy crosses. Laudrup made them pass with purpose, with a rythm and they did it so much more beautifully.

    I think Laudrup would see us as the kind of club to prove his credentials, to show that he can rebuild a club and implement his own philosophy.

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  • Small World

    May 27, 2015 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #31

    * floundered *

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  • tequilamag

    May 27, 2015 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #32

    Starting to think Ed does not want Carver as manager

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  • JamesToon

    May 27, 2015 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #33

    @soccer_sauce: Our top man informs us Newcastle in initial negotiations with PSV for playmaker Georginio Wijnaldum. Fee would be in region of £9m #NUFC

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    May 27, 2015 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #34

    Small World,
    It has happened far too often. The club were totally averse to sending anyone out on loan for a while, and it probably ruined a number of players careers. They may not have been Prem level, but many have dropped much further then they should have done.

    Short term thinking from the club.

    Perez should be and is way ahead of Arma, 4 years older and far more experience. I still would have allowed him out on loan this year. He has barely played, so all we have done is harm his development. I’d keep Krul and Elliot/Alnwick this summer as well, so that Woodman can go out on loan for a full season.

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  • Slank

    May 27, 2015 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #35

    Lil @ 22

    I agree. Armstrong is not going to make it if he is the perennial 85 minute substitute.

    I have watched Rangers since Vickic has been playing and he has been head and shoulders above all the other Rangers players.

    The question is whether this is a result of being a first team regular or the other players of Rangers being so shockingly poor. Dummitt grew into the player he is today because of his loan and getting regular games.

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  • davetoon

    May 27, 2015 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #36

    Dont know how anyone could let McClaren 100miles near SJP. His finish to the season in the Championship with a very good championship team was very similar to Charvers.

    And he had a lot of the same excuses and thats why he was fired.

    He shouldnt be on the short list or the long list or even the Christmas card list

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    May 27, 2015 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #37

    James,
    I think you will find the picking of better players more to do with them having been in the Prem, rather than Laudrup. One of the reported issues for Laudrup was that he wasn’t able to spend and buy the players he wanted.

    Laudrup just continued the clubs natural progression, in the same way Garry Monk has continued and improved them.

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  • jazzyp

    May 27, 2015 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #38

    Slank
    On Riviere…How will goals come. He has never been prolific throughout his career and was often used as a winger at Monaco.
    If were gonna start afresh we need someone who is going to guarantee the team at least 15-20 goals a season minimum.
    If you gave me a choice of Ings on a freebie or Riviere for 6 mill….Ings wins hands down. Austin would be a good shout but not for 20mill as Sir les is trying to band around

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