Only Two Worthy Candidates On Newcastle Shortlist


There’s news in the local papers and in the Guardian that Newcastle have drawn up a short list of four coaches from which Lee Charnley will select the man to lead Newcastle forward next season,  after a simply horrendous season of mistakes and mismanagement at all levels at Newcastle.

Michael Laudrup

Michael Laudrup – on Newcastle shortlist – good!

It was good to hear the owner talk on Sunday – that’s one positive – we heard Mike Ashley talk for the first time in eight years.

And then he said there’s money available and the financials are in good shape, but that was only half the battle and now we need to bring in players to have a good squad and win something.

Win something – what does that mean?

And Mike talked about how we have to make our own luck from now on,  but let’s not get too carried away – we’ll just have to wait and see if Newcastle and Ashley follow through on that promise.

But it was a good interview.

The Guardian has reported the shortlist at Newcastle consists of Steve McClaren, John Carver, Remi Garde, and Michael Laudrup.

So one man we should immediately cross off the list is John Carver, who proved to everybody in the last five months that he simply doesn’t have what it takes to be a head coach.

And so we are down to three.

Steve McClaren record is far too ordinary for him to be able to have any success at Newcastle,  and that’s shown by the number of management appointments he’s had over the last nine years – seven management  appointments since 2006.

So we are left with Remi Garde and Micheal Laudrup, and either one of those coaches would be good for Newcastle.

Olympique Lyonnais football team?s Head

Remi Garde – on the shortlist

Both are good coaches and good man-managers and could do a very good job at Newcastle.

But our big concern is how Lee Charnley seems to operate and make his decisions – the simple and  easy choice  is to appoint Steve McClaren with John Carver as his assistant.

And just like his choice of John Carver turned out to be a complete disaster in January, that choice would signal no change in the way Newcastle do their business.

It would be a real disappointment for Newcastle fans if that occurs, and we hope it doesn’t happen – and maybe Steve would again turn the job down.

But we are afraid that’s the decision Lee will make – a McClaren/Carver combination.

And it would be almost as bad as the decision he made in January.

That wouldn’t be a good choice for Newcastle.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



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195 comments so far

  • tequilamag

    May 27, 2015 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #1

    Not sure Laudrup really is a good man manager after Swansea.
    Will probably be McClaren

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  • Slank

    May 27, 2015 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #2

    REPOST

    Lil @ 22

    I agree. Armstrong is not going to make it if he is the perennial 85 minute substitute.

    I have watched Rangers since Vickic has been playing and he has been head and shoulders above all the other Rangers players.

    The question is whether this is a result of being a first team regular or the other players of Rangers being so shockingly poor. Dummitt grew into the player he is today because of his loan and getting regular games.

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  • JamesToon

    May 27, 2015 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #3

    Tequila
    He was in his first season

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  • JamesToon

    May 27, 2015 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #4

    @soccer_sauce: Our top man informs us Newcastle in initial negotiations with PSV for playmaker Georginio Wijnaldum. Fee would be in region of £9m #NUFC

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  • davetoon

    May 27, 2015 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #5

    Dont know how anyone could let McClaren 100miles near SJP. His finish to the season in the Championship with a very good championship team was very similar to Charvers.

    And he had a lot of the same excuses and thats why he was fired.

    He shouldnt be on the short list or the long list or even the Christmas card list

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  • Slank

    May 27, 2015 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #6

    Small World

    How about having Colo and Jonas in midfield ?

    It could work.

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  • JamesToon

    May 27, 2015 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #7

    REPOST

    Lilongwe

    We’ll see about Laudrup….if he hasn’t had a change of attitude about managing a football club (apparently lost interest in Swansea) then he won’t come…simple. But if he does, then maybe he has had a change of heart after being in Qatar over the last 12 months.

    In regards to his style and swansea’s style, yes the possession based style was already there, however Laudrup came in and made adjustment and IMPROVED it. He added the technical ability to it, he wa able to coach players better and pick out better players to play in the system and improved their vision, technique and awareness, they could outpass anyone under Laudrup, they never could with Rodgers, Martinez etc because it was slow and often no end product and the goals would only come from scrappy crosses. Laudrup made them pass with purpose, with a rythm and they did it so much more beautifully.

    I think Laudrup would see us as the kind of club to prove his credentials, to show that he can rebuild a club and implement his own philosophy.

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  • Slank

    May 27, 2015 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #8

    Wouldn’t touch Laudrup. Very dubious character. Bit of a chancer. Likes money (his) too much.

    McClaren would be a good fit. Not very exciting but would be a steady hand on the tiller. Knows the Premiership and has experience of managing in Europe.

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  • jazzyp

    May 27, 2015 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #9

    Repost—-Slank
    On Riviere…How will goals come. He has never been prolific throughout his career and was often used as a winger at Monaco.
    If were gonna start afresh we need someone who is going to guarantee the team at least 15-20 goals a season minimum.
    If you gave me a choice of Ings on a freebie or Riviere for 6 mill….Ings wins hands down. Austin would be a good shout but not for 20mill as Sir les is trying to band around

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  • danuneek

    May 27, 2015 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #10

    Carver has to go, we dont just need a new head coach we need a new coaching team!

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  • danuneek

    May 27, 2015 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #11

    But it will be McClaren and Carver. The fans wont be fully behind that move and as soon as we loose a few matches we’ll be on their backs.

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  • Slank

    May 27, 2015 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #12

    JamesToon

    Is Georginio Wijnaldum any good ?

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  • Small World

    May 27, 2015 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #13

    Slank // May 27, 2015 at 11:12 AM

    “Small World

    How about having Colo and Jonas in midfield ?
    It could work.”

    I don’t know why not. I’d like to think that it is something a good coach could try out. I like to think our coaching staff do try different things out away from match days or match day prep. OK maybe they don’t :0) ….

    I would also like top keep Jonas, we simply can’t ditch 8,10,12 whatever players overnight.
    I wouldn’t necessarily play either him or colo every week, but can see that both could still do a job for us.

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  • Slank

    May 27, 2015 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #14

    jazzyp @ 9

    No idea but my feeling is that in a good team he will score and certainly make goals for others.

    Ings is on his way to Spurs. Austin is likely to go elsewhere.

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  • JamesToon

    May 27, 2015 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #15

    @soccer_sauce: Hearing Newcastle are giving serious consideration to Michael Laudrup becoming their next Head Coach. #NUFC

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    May 27, 2015 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #16

    James,
    I replied on the previous thread, but just to add to it, you say that there was no end product for Swansea before Laudrup? The only managed an extra 3 Premier league goals under Laudrup, then they did under Rogers. This season under Garry Monk they have managed just 1 fewer than Laudrup – Monk lost his main centre forward halfway through the season. Laudrup had Michu, Rogers Danny Graham. The season before in the Championship they were incredibly free scoring.

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  • estechco

    May 27, 2015 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #17

    JamesToon @4 It is always interesting that Twitter and ITK’s suggest we operate like a coiled spring in terms of potential transfer targets, but our 5 month search for a new HC, plus the fact that Carver is now allegedly off on his jollies, suggest Charnley will once again move more like a sloth when it comes to making his next move.

    Something doesn’t add up and much like with Ashley’s frankly, remarkable, interview at the weekend…actions speak louder than words!

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  • Slank

    May 27, 2015 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #18

    Small World

    Colo may not have the pace anymore but he can read the game. Jonas on the evidence of his recent performances seems to have lost nothing of his pace.

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  • Ron Knee

    May 27, 2015 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #19

    I think Ashley and Carver will go for McClaren. He’s compliant, relatively cheap and ‘a safe pair of hands’. Hope I’m wrong.

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  • nightfa11

    May 27, 2015 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #20

    mclaren? are you serious.. mike said that we plan to attack champions league spot.. no way in hell we can do that with that guy.. if he gets the job then we know mikes lying..

    HC appointment will say it all..

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  • geordie157

    May 27, 2015 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #21

    Hope wijnaldum links are true, would be a great signing. His dutch teammate narsingh would add much needed quality out wide too.

    Austin, wijnaldum and schaar are my three I really want at the club.

    With tiote likely to leave johannes geis of Mainz could be worth a look, not sure how much he’d cost. But him and the centre back Bell have looked good both times I’ve seen them.

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  • Canny in Canberra

    May 27, 2015 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #22

    If Mclaren was anything near the man we need he wouldn’t have knocked back the job first time round. Out for the money. Now she he’s sacked and we looking better as an option. Nah mate, keeping f!cken walking

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  • barkel

    May 27, 2015 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #23

    McLaren would be a terrible choice, couldn’t even get the best team in the championship to the play offs!

    Ings isn’t going to be free because of his age, there’ll be a tribunal for a fee to be set unless a club agrees a fee with Burnley for compensation.

    We need to focus on getting a decent coach before we start filling the squad

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  • Ron Knee

    May 27, 2015 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #24

    They can bill McClaren as FORMER ENGLAND MANAGER!!! comes to NUFC, bringing a wealth of experience, blah, blah, blah.

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  • geordie157

    May 27, 2015 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #25

    On laudrup he would be a good appointment, just think he’d demand a lot and for the money we could probably have a go at getting klopp.

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  • Ron Knee

    May 27, 2015 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #26

    … and prepared to work with John (My heart bleeds black and white) Carver!

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  • MrMojoRisin76

    May 27, 2015 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #27

    Spurs bid 12m for Ings SSN

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  • jazzyp

    May 27, 2015 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #28

    Slank

    Look at the squad players he was playing with mate at Monaco and his record was as poor there.
    Imo Siem will guarantee you more goals per season than Riviere will ever do if the lad can stay fit. So will Perez.

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  • Slank

    May 27, 2015 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #29

    Ron Knee @ 24

    They did that with Sir Bobby and the trophy cabinet remained bare.

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  • kakaobi

    May 27, 2015 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #30

    As we know McClaren got sacked from Derby because he only won 3 games out of 13 which is 1 game more than carver I can’t wait to see these 2 plonkers handling our 1st team next season and maybe just maybe after been a season ticket holder for 45 years I might just call it a day after the next season

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  • jazzyp

    May 27, 2015 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #31

    Soccer Sauce @soccer_sauce
    · May 26
    We understand that Newcastle officials are meeting Charlie Austin this week for talks #NUFC #QPR

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  • Ron Knee

    May 27, 2015 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #32

    Slank
    I’m trying to give Keith Bishop some useful suggestions!

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  • JP...from The Rock

    May 27, 2015 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #33

    We should aim higher than that. Remi Garde and Laudrup would be good choices. But we should broaden our search as well. What about that english coach in Real Madrid we were linked with?

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  • nufc_eire

    May 27, 2015 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #34

    I think it has to be DeBoer at this stage. Spend some of the transfer money on getting him, his assistant Bergkamp and his backroom staff in. Keep Beardsley and Carr

    Then clear out the dead wood. By my count there are about 15 players we don’t want at the club. Even if only half of them are moved on and replaced it’ll be a successful transfer window

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  • Ron Knee

    May 27, 2015 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #35

    JP
    Rémi Garde would be a good choice for me, but I can’t see Carver as his assistant.

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  • optimistic prime

    May 27, 2015 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #36

    Mojo

    Can’t see it, SSN says spurs want to speak to Ings first. All clubs have been able to talk to him since jan.

    They could just offer him a good signing bonus and save money, maybe true but can’t see it.

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  • jazzyp

    May 27, 2015 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #37

    Im not being funny but still having a mind set of playing Guti and colo and Riviere along with the likes of Willo….Gouffran is not going to change our fortunes.
    We are hopeful of a big summer at Nufc in terms of players coming in and not to be served up the same drivel we were last season

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  • Slank

    May 27, 2015 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #38

    jazzyp @ 28

    I think Perez, who we have seen more of than Riviere and De Jong, will I agree score more.

    De Jong has great potential but not on the treatment table. But I don’t see him occupying the same spot as Riviere.

    Riviere looks like a big strong centre forward. Actually he is the only one we have. But do we need one ?

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  • Small World

    May 27, 2015 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #39

    If appointed I’d give McClaren a chance instead of hounding him before he’d started.

    His record isn’t one of wall to wall success, however he has coached the premiership champions to 3 successive titles, won the Dutch league with an unfancied team and taken Boro to the UEFA cup final. He also pulled Derby out of the clarts making them contenders to return to the prem, with next to no money to spend.

    He also has form in selling Cheik Tiote, so at least he’d also be able to make that call again…

    Maybe he’d get great performances from Krul, Anita and De Jong by being able to speak to them in English with a Dutch accent :0)

    Who knows? All I’m saying is I’d give him a chance

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  • Slank

    May 27, 2015 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #40

    Ron Knee

    ‘..Rémi Garde would be a good choice for me..’

    Because ?

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