There’s Uncertainty At Newcastle

The Chronicle is reporting tonight that John Carver and his coaches – Steve Stone, Andy Woodman and Dave Watson – all left on holiday this week without knowing what their status would be for next season

John has said a few weeks ago he would know his status within the 48 hours following our last game – but that hasn’t happened – although they are all have long contacts at Newcastle which still have five years to run.

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John Carver on Sunday

There are understood to have been no discussions with Lee Charnley, who is charged by the owner with selecting the new head coach for Newcastle – and that will be a crucial decision for Charnley to make.

But when you consider things have changed an awful lot since the end of January –  whoever thought that Newcastle would be fighting relegation this season when we were 4th top at the end of November?

Certainly not Mike Ashley – as he mentioned in his Sky Sports interview – and it wouldn’t be a shock if  Ashley and Charnley have had a discussion about who the head coach should be – with Mike giving Lee some input.

So while there may be some uncertainty with the coaching staff, the Managing Director needs to take a step back and understand that this summer is going to be absolutely crucial to the club.

And there are a number of good coaches available now, who will not cost any compensation to bring them in since they are out of coaching at the moment – and three of them are Michael Laudrup, Remi Garde and Roberto di Matteo – and either one of those would seem to be a good choice.

And if they want to bring in their own coaching staff then that should be allowed, since John Carver and his coaching staff certainly have’t impressed too many people this year.

Yes, we had a lot of players out with injury and suspensions,  but in the last four or five games most of them were back and essentially John had the same players that went on a six game winning streak back in October and November.

It may be a good sign that Lee Charnley is taking a step back and considering the situation, and if his plan was to appoint Steve McClaren as head coach with John Carver as his assistant manager, then  the events of this year should tell him that would not be a good choice.

Comments welcome.

91 comments so far

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    May 28, 2015 at 10:27 PM

    Comment #1

    If you disregard the five years contracts, what are Ashley’s infatuation with keeping Carver, Stone and Woodman?

    Certainly a new HC is the priority! Ashley works in mysterious ways…

  • ToonFromLeeds

    May 28, 2015 at 10:29 PM

    Comment #2

    I agree Jesper the lot should be gone. Do you think Ashley has a clue what he is doing?

  • Thump

    May 28, 2015 at 10:29 PM

    Comment #3

    No, Charver said that he wants to know as he’s going on holiday, and then he said he’ll know before he goes on holiday.

    Sorry Johnny boy, the world doesn’t revolve around you. Stay in whatever country you have gone to, please.

  • cestriasteve

    May 28, 2015 at 10:31 PM

    Comment #4

    Captan, he’s at St.James park tomorrow for his little SD fun day, hope he trips up and breaks his neck.

  • scout

    May 28, 2015 at 10:32 PM

    Comment #5

    Demba Ba should be the main signing forget ya Austins and Ings BA Is the boy

  • p

    May 28, 2015 at 10:32 PM

    Comment #6

    it’s hard to be totally sure what is going on behind the scenes.

    hopefully a search for a new MD is going on but, unfortunately I doubt it.

    I think charnley will stay on and at some point a new coach will come in.

  • Graeme

    May 28, 2015 at 10:33 PM

    Comment #7

    Penfold is probably as far out of his comfort zone today, as Carver has been since January. He is not a “Football” Man, he’s a glorified pen pusher, promoted beyond his ability.

    Appointing McLaren or Carver would be sooo easy, but now he doesn’t know if it will keep him employed. He doesn’t know who to ask for info on other possible Candidates, he hasn’t done his homework at all.

  • Mr Magpie

    May 28, 2015 at 10:33 PM

    Comment #8

    Sky sports regional news stating German press saying Klopp interested in Liverpool job…maybe if approached he would also be interested in coming here or if Rodgers goes anyone fancy him here?

  • scout

    May 28, 2015 at 10:33 PM

    Comment #9

    Has JC packed the rollerboots?

  • croftus5678

    May 28, 2015 at 10:36 PM

    Comment #10

    i cant see carver staying if we get a new manager as it wont suit his pride and arrogance of him once being our manager and not a very good one at that !

    woodman is a great coach imo he breeds confidence into the young keepers and although he doesnt iron out there bad points he pushes them to better themselves and personally i’m very happy with him.

    stone i dont think is effective and we should rid of him imo but i think he has more chance of staying than carver does.

  • bettyswallocks

    May 28, 2015 at 10:38 PM

    Comment #11

    Disgusting , shameful statement from Sepp Blatter. I feel really sorry for his daughter Fanny.

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    May 28, 2015 at 10:41 PM

    Comment #12

    ToonFromLeeds…No I don’t and I think he trust the wrong kind of people to take care of business!

  • soundoid

    May 28, 2015 at 11:06 PM

    Comment #13

    Thats wrong Ed they all have reverted back to there previous job roles. If a new coach comes in and wants to bring in new people that’s a different matter.

  • Pokat

    May 28, 2015 at 11:08 PM

    Comment #14

    Betty you minx ha ha.

    Blatter is a top crook if ever I saw one. Even if he supposedly knew nowt about his kids shenanigans for that reason alone he has to go. Fifa has been rotten go years,and everyone knows it . Hats off to the yanks for taking the bull by the horns like.

  • Pokat

    May 28, 2015 at 11:11 PM

    Comment #15

    Charlady appears to be lacking the clangers to drop the bomb on Johnny C and the crew. Surprising that, for our chief pencil sharpener.

  • Pokat

    May 28, 2015 at 11:14 PM

    Comment #16

    Imagine mike having done his first talkie in yonks promising win or bust then standing back and watching his fat bald ticket clutching underling appoint M Claren…well he must be so proud.

  • optimistic prime

    May 28, 2015 at 11:16 PM

    Comment #17

    Why don’t the fans have a wip round and collect money to pay the coaching staff off. A tenna each should cover it.

  • lesh

    May 28, 2015 at 11:25 PM

    Comment #18


    I think you’re wrong in applauding Dummet’s statement about the squad AND Carver feeling the strain of a weak squad.

    Think about the excuses Carver’s given for the terrible results while he was HC. They’re much the same as those Carver’s been peddling.

    Sorry but the cynic in me feels that Dummet’s statemenr’s been guided by Bishop and driven by the need to shore up Carver to give him some credibility, and is part of the charm offensive to get fans on board, softened up for the time they announce Carver’s appointment ad HC.

    I don’t believe for a minute that Carver has no idea about his future.

    Again, the cynic tells me he was offered the HC job in January in the assumption and his assurances that we’d finish the season at 10th or higher.

    Now that Carver’s again showed he’s not up to the HC job, Charnley’s got a problem: how to get Carver appointed! Hence the attempts to sympathise with Carver, much like the supportive words we’ve heard from other players.

    And, just thinking about Ashley’s statement.

    I haven’t looked at the detail of the FF open letter asking questions nor the questions that Ashley was asked in the Sky interview, but could he have answered the Open Letter?

    If that is the case, the FF has missed an opportunity to keep the heat on by not requesting a formal, point-by-point, written reply to the Open Letter.

    And, when’s the Forum meeting that Charnley was going to arrange?

    Or has it happened, informally with the senior FF members, un-minuted and before Ashley’s interview?

    Cynic? Me?


  • Oldgit1

    May 28, 2015 at 11:28 PM

    Comment #19

    I’m thinking that the news regarding ST renewals appearing to be low would suggest at long last the power now reverts back to us supporters.

    Let the fat man sweat and do not renew until a decent head coach is brought in. When announced hold back a bit longer and see what players we get in. If good renew if bad don’t simple.

    In any case if tickets sold are low, we all know how Ashley likes a cut price sale with tickets greatly reduced by 70%. Win win situation.

    Well done to all the supporters who like me have decided to let the club wait for once. Power to the supporters.

  • lesh

    May 28, 2015 at 11:29 PM

    Comment #20

    Mr Magpie

    If Klopp has said he’d be interested in the Liverpool job (Is it vacant?), it’s because he’s been sounded out by Livetpool.

    Now in the meantime, what’s Charnley done towards recruiting a credible HC?

    Yes, you’ve got it!

  • lesh

    May 28, 2015 at 11:32 PM

    Comment #21


    Good for you young fella. Now spread the word.

    Why hasn’t the AO campaign latched on to that? It’s a clearly visible and strong message that the press’d be delighted to report on.

  • lesh

    May 28, 2015 at 11:40 PM

    Comment #22

    Correction to my post to TFL

    * Think about the excuses Carver’s given for the terrible results

    = Think about the excuses Dummet’s given for the terrible results

  • Pokat

    May 28, 2015 at 11:47 PM

    Comment #23

    Hear hear about the season ticket thing. We’ve had posters here saying st sales are small potatoes and sd advertising at the ground being ineffective yet up pops mike from the depths of who knows where to beg us to be interested in going to the game again. Until I see the whites of his eyes re transfers and managerial appointments I ain’t going there.

  • Pokat

    May 28, 2015 at 11:52 PM

    Comment #24

    I hope Ashleys sent everyone on hols so he can get the locks changed. Clean sweep Mikey boy cleeeeeaaan sweep.

  • Pokat

    May 28, 2015 at 11:55 PM

    Comment #25

    Cmon mike sack that fat Penfold wannabe and the frickin’ scout hut , get yersel a top advisor who can hire a proper premier league manager and he’ll do the biz for ya.

  • Pokat

    May 28, 2015 at 11:59 PM

    Comment #26

    You know all this good stuff will be lost in the mists of time
    Shame on you all for going to bed ha ha.

  • geordie157

    May 29, 2015 at 12:10 AM

    Comment #27

    Some bloke called Shane Ferguson came on for rangers, first appearance this season.

    Looks like the mighty rangers won’t be going up, what a shame.

  • headtheball

    May 29, 2015 at 12:19 AM

    Comment #28

    Whenever you see a photo or video of Mike Ashley related to NUFC, why is he always surrounded by parasitic fawning sycophants?
    Are they his friends? Ha! Ha!
    Belay season ticket purchases.

  • Dulcinera

    May 29, 2015 at 12:28 AM

    Comment #29

    Unless Klopp loves being the underdog i don’t see how we have any chance whatsoever of luring one of europes most talked about, highky rated coaches. And that isn’t even considering if he would even think about leaving a club which he made into one of the best in germany/europe for one which has bee bordering on mediocrity for 11 years or so.

    To be honest as long as Steve Mc Claren, John Carver, david moyes, jimmy floyd hasselbaink, glen hoddle, lee clark,mark warburton, neil warnock, david o leary and steve bruce dont get the job i couldnt care less who gets it as long aas he’s a sophisticated, atractive, suit wearing, sexy football playing manager

  • Thump

    May 29, 2015 at 12:53 AM

    Comment #30

    @Dulcinera: Ah, you want Gullit back, then.

  • Canny in Canberra

    May 29, 2015 at 1:31 AM

    Comment #31

    Sorry I was delayed in posting as I had to inform the Coast Guard of this Earth shattering news.
    “There is uncertainty at Newcastle” PMSL really? hold the front page Ed!

    Seriously, they either haven’t been told anything or they’ve been booted and just aren’t keen to let on quite yet. We all know that if Carver had been told he has the HC job he would have been shouting it from the roof tops.

  • Toon-Prodigy

    May 29, 2015 at 1:52 AM

    Comment #32


    You cant turn peoples hopes for the club, its not that they forget but do look for hope unlike some concrete nevs.

    Lesh are you AO? Serious insults towards the manager continously.

    With all the wrongdoings of the club over and over its the manager fukin borin, Pardew aint here anymore? It’s just turned to Carver but it’s all the same problems remain. What does that say?

    It’s always been the squad shortage and the backup. If we had a better built squad we wouldnt of had the runs.


    … Ben Arfa, Marveux, M’Biwa, Santon

    Lose that class without replacing with a huge injury list also and you are F’D.

    Mental on here like.

  • expatmag

    May 29, 2015 at 2:07 AM

    Comment #33


    Bloody hell pet. You are an angry ant this morning. Your better half gave a headache last night?????

  • Canny in Canberra

    May 29, 2015 at 2:18 AM

    Comment #34

    Not Angry Pat. Just a bit frustrated and no that’s nothing to do with Hubby before you go there again!!! 🙂

    He was in bother earlier in the week as he bought me a NUFC pin and keyring to cheer me up and I saw Sports Direct appear on our statement and went nuts. Bless him.

    So Mr Ashley I’ve chipped in my $15 get some players brought in please.!!

  • Shot Bru

    May 29, 2015 at 2:29 AM

    Comment #35

    They board were obviously banking on Carver to do a better job from January onwards… But it’s turned out to be a total shambles!!

    Otherwise we would have had Pardews replacement lined up and announced for the end of the season..I suspect no-one with any significant talent and ambition is willing to work fir Ashley

  • expatmag

    May 29, 2015 at 2:30 AM

    Comment #36


    I thought you might have educated him better. Never mind pet. He meant well.

    On the main subject, whilst our past record of acting quickly on matters leaves a lot to be desired, people need to understand the season only ended last week and negotiations for players coaches etc.

    Patience is the key here, at least for a couple of more weeks

  • Canny in Canberra

    May 29, 2015 at 2:39 AM

    Comment #37

    Fair point Pat but it seems like we been patient for years now and Ashley himself increased expectation with his own words so what else can be expected but people wanting to see it all happen

  • expatmag

    May 29, 2015 at 2:40 AM

    Comment #38

    Shot bru

    I think carver has always been looked upon as a fill in. The second half of the season has only just confirmed this.

    We may be negotiating with any number if managers who have either resigned sacked or are close to both.

    For example

    Moyes could be sacked by Real Sociedad
    Rogers could be sacked by Liverpool
    Garde has had a year off
    Klopp is available
    Mclaren recently sacked by Derby
    Jovanovic resigned from Watford
    Galtier assessing his options at St. Etienne
    Warburton available after leaving Brentford
    Ancelotti sacked by Real Madrid
    Alardyce sacked by WHU

    I am sure there are quite a few more options available at present.

  • Shot Bru

    May 29, 2015 at 2:40 AM

    Comment #39

    In a couple of days it will be 6 months since Pardew left…

    So we have had an Caretaker Head coach for 6 months..this must be another record breaker for the club!! The uncertainty continues.

    The deadline for ST renewals has been extended for another couple of weeks..Apparently we have to HURRY to avoid the disappointment of missing out…hilarious.

  • Canny in Canberra

    May 29, 2015 at 2:41 AM

    Comment #40

    Shot Bru
    Spot on about anyone of calibre not wanting to walk into the shit fight that is NUFC. So that leaves McLaren or Carver on a combination of both. Sick at the thought of any of those situations meself


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