Vieira Demands The Tools To Be Successful At Newcastle

Patrick Vieira seems willing to take the Newcastle head coach job this week,  but the Mirror is reporting tonight that he will only take the job if he can be successful at the Tyneside club,  given the rather rigid structure Mike Ashley has installed at Newcastle.

The head coach in the current model has little input into who comes into the club during transfer windows, and Graham Carr seems to have a massive sway at the club.

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Patrick Vieira – Newcastle approached him last week

The Mirror is reporting tonight that Lee Charnley will meet with both Steve McClaren and Patrick Vieira this week before he makes his final choice – which is a massive decision for both Lee Charnley and Newcastle United with the club at a very low ebb,  and the fans furious with the way the club has been run.

The head coach position seems to be down the initial choice – Steve McClaren – and latecomer Patrick Vieira.

Like any top up-and-coming coach Patrick has his own ideas about how he wants to coach at Newcastle, and needs to understand what restrictions would be placed on him at Newcastle, plus how he would be expected to operate and whether the structure is set up for a coach to be successful..

This is what Patrick has said about the Newcastle position:

“I’m happy with the way I am developing as a manager and a young coach.” “It’s about the vision. I’ve been here (Manchester City) for three years from the B licence to the pro licence and I really know myself.”

“I really know which kind of manager I want to be.” “They don’t try to put something in my head. It’s about who I am as a person and how I see the game and how they (Newcastle) can give me the tools to be a successful manager.”

Back in 2013 Patrick was also asked what his favorite stadium was and this is what he said:

“My favorite stadium I have played in this country I have to say is Newcastle. I like Newcastle’s stadium. I love the atmosphere and I like the way the stadium is built and I loved playing there.”

Patrick is doing nothing more than asking the questions somebody would ask if he wants to be successful at Newcastle  – and he wants to ensure the environment is one set up for success.

In the past the Newcastle manager position has not been set up to be successful – with players sold at any time once the right bid came in. and the squad being far too small and money not always available to plug weaknesses in the side.

So it could be that Patrick doesn’t want the job, and Lee Charnley has already said the new coach must fit in n with the (unsuccessful) way the club is being run today.

For instance, Lee has specifically said the new coach shouldn’t get upset if the club decides to sell a player in a transfer window, if the right (financial) opportunity arises.

What top coach would put up with that nonsense?

We’ve said before it will be hard for Newcastle to attract a top coach to the club, because they seem to be so restricted in what powers they have.

Graham Carr is still thought to want Steve McClaren in the job, because he knows him well, and Steve would fit right into with the way Newcastle have operated in the past.

Steve wouldn’t rock the boat at Newcastle – just like John Carver didn’t rock the boat this year, and almost got us relegated seven days ago.

Newcastle must now decide if they want to continue with the way the club has been run in the past, or move forward with potentially a revised structure and perhaps even start winning things.

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Comments welcome.

Note: I initially screwed up Patrick’s comments when I released this article last night – I have amended his comments today and been more specific on what he said when – sorry about that.

83 comments so far

  • tequilamag

    May 31, 2015 at 11:13 PM

    Comment #1

    Come to Newcastle PV we have as many tools as you like up here.

  • Belfast

    May 31, 2015 at 11:16 PM

    Comment #2

    Skrid med dig tequila darling


    May 31, 2015 at 11:17 PM

    Comment #3

    The polls on this blog man….

  • Belfast

    May 31, 2015 at 11:18 PM

    Comment #4

    If Patrick demands anything he’ll be out on his arse within a week.

  • ToonFromLeeds

    May 31, 2015 at 11:18 PM

    Comment #5

    The correct tools and the “tools” that coach at the club should be fired into the Tyne

  • tequilamag

    May 31, 2015 at 11:19 PM

    Comment #6

    Belfast did I beat you to that punchline ? It was a bit obvious but somebody had to do it

  • lochinvar

    May 31, 2015 at 11:20 PM

    Comment #7

    McLaren still has a home on Teeside so is well placed to join Boro or the Mackems , Darlington or Hartlepool so easy decision for Chanley to make – Viera.

    Viera has all the ambition, personality and drive , the existing players will respond and new players will sign on the back of his appointment.

    Has Chanley got the bottle ?

  • Belfast

    May 31, 2015 at 11:21 PM

    Comment #8

    No I’ll let you have the glory for once mate

  • one fine day

    May 31, 2015 at 11:21 PM

    Comment #9

    All this is simply a misunderstanding .
    a large bet placed .. a one off.. why?
    Some ITK simply thought he overheard charlady on the blower saying” we need to get hold of vieira !for next year”
    What he was actually saying was we will need “Viagra ”
    After his new KPI for next year demanded he produce at least a semi .


  • one fine day

    May 31, 2015 at 11:22 PM

    Comment #10

    I’ll get me coat ….

  • BandB

    May 31, 2015 at 11:22 PM

    Comment #11

    The poll in the Mirror offers a straight either/or choice between Vieira and McClaren.
    It’s 86% for Vieira.
    I really hope the club isn’t floating Vieira’s name just to prevent fans from thinking McClaren was a shoo-in.
    If Vieira turns us down because he refuses to work with all the restrictions, who is going to welcome a recently sacked Championship manager who will as a statement of intent to win things?


    May 31, 2015 at 11:23 PM

    Comment #12

    Hey now he might be lied to then end up in the courts with them as well, its not all out on his arse options

  • lochinvar

    May 31, 2015 at 11:26 PM

    Comment #13

    PV or not PV that is the question
    PV but not JC is the answer

  • lochinvar

    May 31, 2015 at 11:28 PM

    Comment #14

    3 votes for McLaren ?
    Didn’t know Carver, Stone and Woodman were on the blog !

  • Toon-Prodigy

    May 31, 2015 at 11:29 PM

    Comment #15

    Im struggling to see how so many people seem so sure also, I said the same this morning. I have absolutely no idea about his coaching abilities, but regardless, he has no experience which to me is a gamble which does not need to happen, not at this club right now.

    I want change as much as anyone also but surely the football board can get a young progressive EXPERIENCED man in to do the job rather than go for a man with zero experience in top level football. Just because his name is Viera means nothing or what he achieved as a player. Bringing a man in on his name alone is not good footballing logic to me. This talk of him attracting top players to the club is bogus for me also.

    1. There is no guarantee he could do that as it is down to the players ambitions.

    2. He will not be picking the players coming into the club anyway.

    The gamble would be so much lower and the outlook would be just as positive with the type of coach I’v stated above. The change would be there also which everyone wants.

    We have a chance and a choice to get it right here, taking unnecessary risks does not need to happen at all.

    Viera could work out, im not saying it wouldn’t, im just concerned why we can’t go for the full package in a manager out there. If we are changing and looking to be more positive then I don’t see why we can’t do the above rather than take a gamble on Viera.

    For once, I’d like to see the club get the real deal in without a question mark hanging over him.

    Just my two cents. Im off to work, enjoy folks.


    May 31, 2015 at 11:29 PM

    Comment #16

    Fair doos mate if thats what u believe. I just dont see it

  • jimmysmith

    May 31, 2015 at 11:29 PM

    Comment #17

    Reminds me of Llambias saying Keegan wanted to “spend like Mourinho”, in his defence of the club’s treatment of him.

    Can’t see Viera, schooled in coaching and management at Man City, and having played for among the heaviest hitters in the game, seeing eye to eye on money matters with Mike Ashley, to be honest.

  • one fine day

    May 31, 2015 at 11:29 PM

    Comment #18

    In a recent pole here carver got 2 votes so I am guessing they must be.

  • toonarmydownsouth

    May 31, 2015 at 11:30 PM

    Comment #19

    Who’s the real deal then?

    McClaren? Do we need experience? Like who, except SBR who was the last experienced success?
    Would Klopp count as experienced? Or FDB? Or would they not count as no Pl experience?
    Or do we look to the likes of Moyes? Plenty of experience?

    Seriously couldn’t be a looser term banded around than experienced


    May 31, 2015 at 11:30 PM

    Comment #20

    THAT! All day long that! U and me against the world! U can be the talker I will be the annoying comedic value jerk in out buddy movie!

  • jane

    May 31, 2015 at 11:31 PM

    Comment #21

    I’m a bit baffled and surprised by the level of interest in Patrick Vieira, he hasn’t inspired me as a pundit.

  • Our Toon

    May 31, 2015 at 11:36 PM

    Comment #22

    Viera, plenty of tools at the toon for you mate, Steve stone, penfold, woodman and best of all Carver….no bigger tool then Carver!!

  • G

    May 31, 2015 at 11:37 PM

    Comment #23

    Apparently there are at least 9 idiots reading the blog. Voting McClaren? FFS

  • tequilamag

    May 31, 2015 at 11:38 PM

    Comment #24

    En blind h?ne finder også et korn.

    Not a literal translation. but the English equivalent is apparently. Even a blind pig may occasionally pick up an acorn.

  • toon22

    May 31, 2015 at 11:42 PM

    Comment #25

    Garry Neville ?

  • banjax

    May 31, 2015 at 11:44 PM

    Comment #26

    This comment from Viera is the kind of change Mike Ashley needs to make and promised as much in his Sky interview. We’ll see by who is selected is Ashley has kept his word.


    May 31, 2015 at 11:49 PM

    Comment #27

    hope we fkn short out this shit tis week

  • Sazzer

    May 31, 2015 at 11:54 PM

    Comment #28

    Dick Advocaat Claims He Was ‘Offered’ #NUFC Job

  • BoyDoneGood

    May 31, 2015 at 11:55 PM

    Comment #29

    JB from a couple of posts back.

    “I wouldn’t have Carver cleaning the toilets…”

    I think you are being incredibly unfair. Carver might not be my top choice, but I would say he certainly has many of the attributes of an adequate, if not an outstanding, toilet cleaner.

  • lesh

    Jun 1, 2015 at 12:00 AM

    Comment #31

    Even as Carver’s on his jollies, he’s stilll keeping in touch with developments.

    He’s voted for McClaren 12 times in this poll.

    Mind, if his name had been among the options, he’d have voted for himself, over a 1000 times!

  • Blofal

    Jun 1, 2015 at 12:12 AM

    Comment #32

    I’m concerned also about Vieira’s experience.

    The reason everyone wants Vieira is because it’s a statement of intent from Newcastle that they are willing to take a risk to be successful.

    McClaren is not a risk. He is the safe option and would probably with the coming investment keep us nicely in the top 10.

    Vieira is widely touted as being groomed to take over at Man City. A lot of good managers have risen from nowhere coaching reserves to massive football teams.

    Vieira is a massive gamble. But as I said it shows intent. And with his prestigious reputation commands authority and respect. Carr and Charnley trying to push a nuff nuff player onto Vieira is far less likely than McClaren who I don’t imagine would complain at all.

  • spitfire_

    Jun 1, 2015 at 12:18 AM

    Comment #33

    Vieira demands tools and we have tools… with names. Carver, Stone, Woodman. Enough?

  • G

    Jun 1, 2015 at 12:22 AM

    Comment #34

    @32, I would rather take a risk on the unknown than willingly accept mediocrity. Remind me, how many teams that Keegan bloke had managed in 1991?

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jun 1, 2015 at 12:30 AM

    Comment #35

    Speakning about tools and I am not talking about Belfast here…”der er ikke rust på et nyttigt redskab” 😉

  • sickandtired

    Jun 1, 2015 at 1:23 AM

    Comment #36

    Ed – who inserted “Newcastle” into the quote you have used?

    The comments relate to how he is learning with the Welsh FA.

    Have you just tried to manipulate the facts in order to promote your Blog?????

  • ganiyu

    Jun 1, 2015 at 1:26 AM

    Comment #37

    My ideal Newcastle manager = a manager who has been out of the game for a while and is willing to do anything to get back into management.

    If I were to chose between Vieira and Mc claren, I’d go for McLaren. Newcastle united is not a laboratory for rookie managers. The later has grounded knowledge of management in all ramifications.

  • lesh

    Jun 1, 2015 at 1:39 AM

    Comment #38


    Could Carver have been on that Welsh course or has he really gone on holiday?

    Maybe he was lead speaker at Celtic Manor?

    Or not

  • Mister Tuff

    Jun 1, 2015 at 1:40 AM

    Comment #39

    ganiyu – your first paragraph -you mean someone like Joe Kinear.

    Second para – SJP – should not be a retirement home for over the hill managers/yesterdays men.

  • GeordieTwo

    Jun 1, 2015 at 2:17 AM

    Comment #40

    I’m still throwing my entire influence behind Shuhrat Maksudov as our next head coach. We deserve him and he deserves us. Come on Shurhat!


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