Why Patrick Vieira Is A Very Good Match For Newcastle


Patrick Vieira has come from nowhere over the last couple of days to be installed as the odds on favorite (now 5-6 on SkyBet) to get the head coach job at Newcastle this week, with Steve McClaren  (now 6/4 on SkyBet)  the second favorite and third favorite is still amazingly John Carver at 10-1.

But we cannot believe Newcastle are that daft or stupid to appoint John Carver on a permanent basis, after he almost got the club relegated last weekend.

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Patrick Vieira – would be an excellent appointment at Newcastle

With only 2% wanting John appointed in our poll,  and with Newcastle having a tough job ahead of them this summer to get their alienated and angry fans back behind the club – they would be more than foolish to appoint Carver.

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And while Patrick has never been a head coach, there are definite signs with the way he has coached at Manchester City since 2011, he could become a top coach in the future – and he has been an excellent Ambassador for City.

Manchester City are keen to hang onto him, although Patrick doesn’t see much chance of him getting the City top job anytime soon, and this could be an opportunity for him to manage a top club, with his contract up at the end of June.

But Patrick will want guarantees from Newcastle  that Ashley will provide him the funding to bring in some top players this summer and in the future, and he will want some say in who comes into the club.

If promises are not forthcoming that could be a negative to him still wanting the job on Tyneside, but if Charnley and Carr balk at that,  then we fully deserve it if we end up with Steve McClaren and/or John Carver.

Here are some points that seem to make Patrick an excellent choice for (the new?) Newcastle United:

  • Patrick is a well known figure in world football who played in the World Cup final in 1998 when France hammered Brazil 3-0 in Paris and he was one of the world’s best defensive midfield players for Arsenal and France – he’s a real football man. He won many trophies at Arsenal and has contacts all over the place.
  • He is a winner.
    Throughout his career he has been used to winning – and if he came to Newcastle he will want to win here too – so the situation has to be set up by Lee Charnley and Graham Carr that will make it possible for him  to make Newcastle into a successful club again.
  • He’s been the manager of the Manchester City U21 side for the last two seasons, and he is said to be an authoritative coach in the dressing room and on the sidelines, and after the indiscipline of Newcastle players under John Carver (think of all the suspensions) that’s what we need at Newcastle – somebody with authority who will not suffer fools easily.
  • Like any good coach Patrick can get the best out of the players available to him, and it is thought he can get the very best out of Newcastle ‘s still large contingent of Frenchmen in the squad.
    So players like Moussa Sissoko, Remy Cabella, Gabby Obertan, Massadio Haidara, Yoan Gouffran, Manu Riviere and even Sylvain Marveaux will get their chance in pre-season if Patrick gets the job.
  • Patrick would attract some top players to the club because of his name and standing in the game, and he will already has the contacts and could persuade some top players to join him on his revival of Newcastle United to be top club in England again.
  • It should also help that Vieira commented earlier this year that Newcastle (and Liverpool) fans are the best in the business,  and playing at St. James’ Park was always a great experience for him.
    here’s a chance for him to be on the sidelines at that great stadium at Newcastle – the Cathedral on the Hill.

On the downside – just think what transfer targets would say if John Carver was appointed head coach as contrasted to Patrick Vieira.

Players would say “who?” if John Carver’s made was mentioned as the head coach, or they may even associate him with the 8 game losing streak at Newcastle this year – if they know him at all.

On the other hand Patrick Vieira  has a very good name in world football and was a world-class player in his day,  and could become a world-class coach too – and players would be willing to join Newcastle if he was our head coach.

Newcastle have to be bold this week,  and if there is a good chance to sign Patrick Vieira as is being reported – we should take it and sign this man quickly.

Comments welcome.



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153 comments so far

  • ToonFromLeeds

    May 31, 2015 at 5:01 PM

    Comment #1
  • geordie157

    May 31, 2015 at 5:08 PM

    Comment #2

    No problem with Vieira being given a chance but back him and bring in a few coaches too!

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    May 31, 2015 at 5:09 PM

    Comment #3

    Agreed Geordie157

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  • optimistic prime

    May 31, 2015 at 5:09 PM

    Comment #4

    Has Vierra commented on any of this speculation?

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    May 31, 2015 at 5:10 PM

    Comment #5

    Poor MA his beloved Rangers lost 6-1 on agg pmsl

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  • Pokat

    May 31, 2015 at 5:11 PM

    Comment #6

    Toon from leeds look up Iain Dowies qualifications.

    Beer monkey, well if it’s last year’s accounts we got shot of Ben Arfa, and Pardew. Yes we got compensation for Pardew, but that will be in the income column. Just a thought.

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    May 31, 2015 at 5:15 PM

    Comment #7

    Ah right ty Pokat. You learn summat new every day

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  • jimiley

    May 31, 2015 at 5:16 PM

    Comment #8

    Ed,
    Sorry mate but I could not take the headline seriously and failed to read the rest.
    Viera is untested and might be as good as Merson or Adams at the job who were both woeful. To say he would be better than Carver is hardly a reason to recommend him.
    Viera must be mad to even consider the job. Stark raving bonkers. We do not need mad people here. JC will suffice. We can win something under Ashley but we need to be patient and build the squad up. I reckon we might win something in the next 20 years. A league title would be nice.

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  • Pokat

    May 31, 2015 at 5:20 PM

    Comment #9

    I’m afraid we need a communal head shake do here we go everyone – bandb is quite correct. The new Head Coach has to operate under a draconian remit, administered by a fat , eyebrow-free pencil chewer who knows nothing of football but can get a good price on copier paper, biros and laminated pouches.

    No cup runs. No top six pushes. Ask for positions to be filled, we will get back to you on who we get, and if they can play immediately or not. Tell the media exactly what we tell you to.

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  • jimiley

    May 31, 2015 at 5:20 PM

    Comment #10

    Viera might even be as good as Shearer or Bobby Charlton as managers. Are we really so crap that we go after ex players with no proven managerial experience?

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  • beermonkey

    May 31, 2015 at 5:21 PM

    Comment #11

    pokat

    neither of those would appear till next lot of accounts i would think

    average

    of course viera hasn’t commented he is loving it city are thinking there golden boy wants out and McLaren is will be panicking he will have lost a job in the prem

    McLaren will be on the phone to penfold begging to let him have the job and he will take being the puppet for the puppet master, and viera i am sure city will reward him and promise him the job soon

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  • JackButler

    May 31, 2015 at 5:23 PM

    Comment #12

    Time for a complete clearout imo, Carver needs to be the first out the door with captain Colo following on his heels along with the rest of the deadwood.

    Vieira would make a curious but exciting choice as manager as we’d be entering into the unknown but he’d be prefferable to the rest of the candidates apart from Garde

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  • Jail for Ashley

    May 31, 2015 at 5:26 PM

    Comment #13

    If they are really prepared to rip up the template and I am not suggesting for one minute they are as I don’t believe a word of this Viera story, then why not temp FDB, Garde or Klopp with a blank canvas.

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  • jimiley

    May 31, 2015 at 5:28 PM

    Comment #14

    With Penfold in control we know there will be no mass clear out. Turkeys do not vote for Christmas. More of the same next season. I can spend my money on better things than paying for the owners gambling habits.

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  • jimiley

    May 31, 2015 at 5:28 PM

    Comment #15

    Jail,
    Its called money.

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  • Moonraker15

    May 31, 2015 at 5:30 PM

    Comment #16

    jimiley
    So then who do You want as coach? SM?

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  • JackButler

    May 31, 2015 at 5:31 PM

    Comment #17

    jimiley

    Charnley has been working under Ashley’s remit, therefor he cannot spend money he does not have, blaming him for the state of the club is wrong as he has little to no control over what happens.

    Ashley has to change the way we are run from top to bottom for anything to really happen and if we do simple carry on as you are next season, then it’s down to Ashley and not charnley

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  • jimiley

    May 31, 2015 at 5:35 PM

    Comment #18

    Moonraker,
    Who I want is not really important. I want Klopp or Guardiola or someone of that standing but it will not happen because the club will not pay up either for the manager or the subsequent players.
    We will get somebody untested or somebody from the sacked merry go round of managers. But I do not want any of them. The club now ranks in the chicken feed division and we will get whatever is left.

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  • Moonraker15

    May 31, 2015 at 5:36 PM

    Comment #19

    I’ve come to the conclusion that a lot of folks on this blog don’t want to see us succeed!
    No one was more angry than me last season but if it’s tru about them going after Viera it’s a huge statement by the club, but all we get from some is negative comments.
    Ok it might not happen but ffs let’s have some optimism please!

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  • jimiley

    May 31, 2015 at 5:38 PM

    Comment #21

    JackButler,
    You are right but Penfold is still blameworthy because he is clueless in any event. He should never have been promoted above the pencil sharpening class at the club. Another crap decision by Mashers.

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  • JackButler

    May 31, 2015 at 5:39 PM

    Comment #22

    Moonraker15

    Everyone wants to see us succeed, but we’ve been walked over for so long it’s hard to believe that Ashley will change how he runs the club.

    We are all hopefull but now one single person will be confident that we are about to see a change

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  • yorkymag

    May 31, 2015 at 5:40 PM

    Comment #23

    Iam hearing
    McLaren as director of football
    Vierra as head coach maybe nothing in it but does make some sense

    We will find out Tuesday or Wednesday

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    May 31, 2015 at 5:40 PM

    Comment #24

    It will be interesting to see who West Ham , Sunderland and Newcastle get as managers and then what players get signed this summer

    If we are miles behind those 3 clubs in playing roster and manager then its not acceptable

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    May 31, 2015 at 5:41 PM

    Comment #25

    Well said Moonraker

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  • JackButler

    May 31, 2015 at 5:41 PM

    Comment #26

    Seems that West Ham are going all out for FDB as their new manager

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  • welshgeordie9

    May 31, 2015 at 5:41 PM

    Comment #27

    Get Vieira as the new manager and Roy Keane as his assistant.

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    May 31, 2015 at 5:42 PM

    Comment #28

    LCBP we are behind ourselves?

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  • Jail for Ashley

    May 31, 2015 at 5:43 PM

    Comment #29

    moonraker,
    On what grounds do we have to be optimistic after eight long years of deceit, I prefer my current stance theI can’t be disappointed.

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  • AndyMac

    May 31, 2015 at 5:44 PM

    Comment #30

    Viera has no experience in first team management so even less than Pinocchio. Now is not the time for inspirational leaps in the dark. God knows there are enough options out there.

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    May 31, 2015 at 5:45 PM

    Comment #31

    If West Ham show enough ambition and end up with Frank De Boer I will be sickened considering he was apparently not available !!

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  • Jail for Ashley

    May 31, 2015 at 5:45 PM

    Comment #32

    Get welsh a dunces cap and put him in a cell with Charles Bronson.

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  • jimiley

    May 31, 2015 at 5:45 PM

    Comment #33

    Moonraker,
    After all the lies and deception of the last 7 years, I will be optimistic after I know who we get as manager and who we buy. Its fools gold to take this owner at his word. On day one he did an interview saying he wanted to win things at the Toon. Its been top speed reverse gear ever since.

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  • tequilamag

    May 31, 2015 at 5:46 PM

    Comment #34

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32950777

    Not seen this picked up but Viera has given an interview today

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  • Moonraker15

    May 31, 2015 at 5:47 PM

    Comment #35

    jimiley
    We’ve been badly run for decades as you know so why not accept we ain’t getting Guardiola and accept that if Viera comes there is a definite change in policy cos he won’t come without guarantees of investment and ambition. Of course he might not be coming in which case I’ll be moaning as well !

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  • welshgeordie9

    May 31, 2015 at 5:49 PM

    Comment #36

    no need to be like that jail, you have hurt my feelings.

    Ha ha ha

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  • jimiley

    May 31, 2015 at 5:50 PM

    Comment #37

    Moon raker,
    Viera would be better than the brollyman because he cannot be that bad. But I see Viera as him using the club as a stepping stone to better things if he proved himself at the Toon. Two years and off to the Gooners. But I suppose two years of improvement has to be better than death by a thousand cuts!!!!

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  • dalton7675

    May 31, 2015 at 5:51 PM

    Comment #38

    This is the first article ive read but I know from a source at a major paper that Charlie Austin is a done deal

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    May 31, 2015 at 5:55 PM

    Comment #39

    Tequilamag Vieira seems a bit coy there

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    May 31, 2015 at 5:56 PM

    Comment #40

    Jimely
    I’m sorry but your Adams/Merson argument does not stack up, at all

    Neither had any experience but neither had coached either

    Vieira’s role at Citeh far exceeded simply managing the reserves

    His role included player development, setting up and organising projects and programmes within the community and sourcing and securing commercial partners, each of these roles has been previously highlighted in the Cashley manifesto

    Then there’s the contacts globally he would of established whilst backed by one of the worlds richest clubs, Citeh appointed him the role because they knew that Vieira was hugely respected within the football community, those relationships will carry over with him, he is at citeh what Zidane is at Madrid

    Then there’s the impact he can have on our relatively young and heavily French centered squad

    Experience brung us the likes of Fat Sam, Dagliesh, Souness and Pardew
    Being bold and taking a new direction got us Keegan

    Anybody we appoint will be a massive gamble
    We’re not going to get a Klopp and experienced managers would be in the Pardew/McClaren mould as in if there experienced and good they will already be at a top club

    Seriously lads n lasses we’ve spent years complaining about being unadventurous and stagnating now were complaining about the possibility of a bold new direction?

    Experience will bring us a McClaren or Pullis how’s that ambitious?

    Anyone thinking Vieira, a strong willed well respected football ambassador, will be simply a cheap option and a yes man pretty much deserved the deluded Geordies tag and needs to give their head a shake

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