There’s Strong Internal Support For McClaren At Newcastle


The Guardian is reporting there is still strong internal support for Steve McClaren at Newcastle, and we assume that’s coming in the main from from Chief Scout (Director of Football?) Graham Carr, who knows Steve well and has been pushing for him to get the job all year – since Alan Pardew left the club.

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Steve McClaren – strong internal support at Newcastle

It looks like the top two contenders are McClaren and Manchester City U21 coach Patrick Vieira,  who has excited the Newcastle fans and in our poll between the two, Patrick got 97% of the vote so it tells the Newcastle Board who the fans want.

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But it could be that Steve McClaren was always the top choice at Newcastle, ever since Alan Pardew left quickly by the back door after the Everton game.

This is bolstered by a report  in the Telegraph which  basically says Steve is the number one choice and Patrick Vieira  may not even get an interview for the job this week.

Steve McClaren is said to be wanted for his coaching abilities, which is what the hierarchy sees as the main job of the new head coach.

Transfers into and out of the club are handled by Graham Carr with Charnley being the person who does the actual negotiations, and the coach has little say on transfers.

We’ve said before that any good coach who wants to be successful will not abide by these strict rules in place at Newcastle, where the head coach has little power to determine who comes into the squad – and good players can be sold at any time.

And that seems to be true for Patrick Vieira – who wants to be given the tools to succeed at Newcastle – before he would accept the job on Tyneside.

It seems that rather than get a person like Patrick Vieira in – who has great potential and could attract some top players to Newcastle – and give us some much needed success – the Newcastle hierarchy are more intent on keeping their (failed) system in place, where the head coach has only muted powers.

Steve McClaren is said to be willing to abide by those rules.

If McClaren does get the job at Newcastle, he’s probably been the number one choice with the hierarchy ever since Alan Pardew left – and it will mean there will be little change in the way the club is  run – and we cannot see how we can win anything in the near future with this structure and policies.

The fact that Steve turned us down twice this year doesn’t seem to stand for anything either.

Over the eight seasons Mike Ashley has owned the club, we have had only one top nine finish (5th), been relegated once, and come perilously close to another relegation two times in the last three seasons.

Why keep the system in place that produced those results?

If Steve McClaren is given the job,  it will be yet another terrible decision made this year by the club, and nothing will have changed.

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186 comments so far

  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:23 PM

    Comment #1

    Whoever at Newcastle thinks McClaren is a good choice needs to be dropped in the Tyne with a big bolder tied around their neck

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  • Pokat

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:25 PM

    Comment #2

    Hang on I thought it was pretty much accepted that the phrase “pardewed” was virtually born from Jonas being consistently being played out of or in a restricted position, nurse maiding a poor left back and not even his ability to cover more ground than any other player during games could free him from being glued to a largely inept and poorly distributed midfield. I thought all brain – equipped observers knew that one. Apparently not I see.

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  • Pokat

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:25 PM

    Comment #3

    Pretty gutted I missed the moan about cheese and onion versus ready salted, Welsh. How did it end?

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  • manni

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:28 PM

    Comment #4

    I live in derby and while he did really well during the season, as soon as he heard newcastle were interested, their form dipped drastically ..and a few of my derby county mates said watching them in the final 3rd of the season was atrocious. If it was up to me I’d have vieira , de boer, karanka etc, but all newcastle want is someone cheap, JUST a Coach and a yes man , so we’re f****d for another season!

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:31 PM

    Comment #6

    Pokat…I don’t think it’s happened yet.

    Go on Ed – give us a poll!

    Cheese and Onion

    Ready Salted

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  • welshgeordie9

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:32 PM

    Comment #7

    Pokat

    In bits.

    Ha ha ha

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:32 PM

    Comment #8

    TFL…That is literally a “short” list.

    So is the HC list too it would seem.

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  • Riviere Run Dry

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:35 PM

    Comment #9

    Manager – Vieira
    Assistant – Ginola
    GK coach – Harper

    3 appointments to get this club off the ground.

    Ginola to take over as manager once PV moves on to Arsenal when Wenger retires and we’ve won a trophy.

    Sign Austin and offer Shearer a role as ST coach while we’re at it.

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  • bettyswallocks

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:35 PM

    Comment #10

    For Carver to agree to tell the lads they were finished like that shows how low he can stoop.

    He could have just arranged for it to be done with some dignity, would have cost nowt.

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:36 PM

    Comment #11

    hmmm the new poll
    would you like
    A) Steve McClaren
    B) McClaren, Steve
    or
    C) Steve McClaren cos that’s who you are getting anyway

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:37 PM

    Comment #12

    I really hope Newcastle changed their ways and policies otherwise I see walkouts from managers.

    Viera will certaintly not be hung out to dry, infact any manager with any self respect would not agree to the policies in place at Newcastle.

    I can’t see Viera agreeing to these policies and so would have to be changed, if they tell him porkies or do not back him, like Keegan, he will walk.

    McClaren on the other hand im not sure, but he will well be aware of the stick Pardew recieved and why take that stress on.

    Im well aware players can and will move on, especially when you have lowered yourself to be a stepping stone club anyway. But, the not replacing players for years and limping on throughout campaigns is just a disgrace really. Everyone connected with the club deserves alot better than that.

    These money making and greedy agenda’s need to be cut from the club sharpish if they want any decent coach through the door.

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  • bettyswallocks

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:38 PM

    Comment #13

    Welsh, you are as much use as a one legged man in an arse kicking contest.

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  • jane

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:38 PM

    Comment #14

    this could come in useful

    😥

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  • Pokat

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:38 PM

    Comment #15

    I dunno I think it’s a pretty motivating message for the other players to see how their future will pan out, a nice phone call to signal the end of their cherished time at nufc. I’m certain Jonas good buddy is all fired up to captain this great club next year. Good times ahead

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  • Pokat

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:39 PM

    Comment #16

    Welsh – really? Crumbs.

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  • ITUNDERASHELL

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:43 PM

    Comment #17

    steve is an excellent choice because he will not rock the boat demanding money to spend on players beyond a figure set by Ashley NOT CHARNLEY. Charnley is a director and will pocket millions to do Ashleys bidding, the supporters are the last thing these people are thinking of.
    Its a business and millions can and are being made by exploiting the mugs who pay for a season ticket. You have to understand these people will do anything to make a massive profit and screwing a fan is an amusement to them, they literally see you as prey. Check out the word PSYCHOPATH.

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  • bettyswallocks

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:45 PM

    Comment #18

    Ibiza….. No , not thus far but I’m determined to live in hope until we see what he does.

    He has to make a move soon and woe betide him if he makes a backward step.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:46 PM

    Comment #19

    As for Jonas and Taylor, I was concerned a few days back they might of been treated poorly when Campbell wasn’t even told and he found out on Twitter.

    They should think themselves lucky they got a phone call haha.

    Shocking management.

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  • Munster Mag

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:46 PM

    Comment #20

    Sadly i think viera is a dead story now. We saw a new light and then the club switched it off. If we get mc laren it will be a move up from pardew and we will need to back him.

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  • will die for the toon army

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:47 PM

    Comment #21

    Btn Viera and Mclaren. I wld choose Mclaren any day

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:47 PM

    Comment #22

    McClaren now 8/11
    Vieira 6/5

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  • NezzaNUFC

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:47 PM

    Comment #23

    “Steve McClaren is said to be wanted for his coaching abilities, which is what the hierarchy sees as the main job of the new head coach.”

    What coaching abilities? he’s a poor man manager and he can’t develop young players, where’s the logic in this?

    If McClaren is a smart man he would stay away from NUFC!

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  • AndyMac

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:47 PM

    Comment #24

    “If Steve McClaren is given the job, it will be yet another terrible decision made this year by the club, and nothing will have changed”

    Jeez the amount of people jumping on the PV bandwagon is staggering considering the bloke has never managed at PL level.

    FGS we’ve had some shlte managing this club in the past ten years. If, twelve months ago, I’d asked the members of this blog if they’d be happy for Pardwho to stay or have McClaren as his replacement, 99% of you would have plumped for Wally at least he’s won something !

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  • croftus5678

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:48 PM

    Comment #25

    @19 munster

    i agree not that i’d be impressed by mcclaren tbh as we would just be back to square one.

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  • will die for the toon army

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:49 PM

    Comment #26

    Chanley made e signings we needed but just missed out on CB.

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  • NezzaNUFC

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:49 PM

    Comment #27

    will die for the toon army

    Why?

    Because he’s british? a Dinosaur? has no plan B? can’t develop players? can’t develop young players?

    Some people!

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  • bettyswallocks

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:49 PM

    Comment #28

    Apparently Viera is refusing to go into the starting stalls.

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  • Blofal

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:50 PM

    Comment #29

    It’s Clear that Carr wants McClaren. It was also Carr that wanted Pardew.

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:52 PM

    Comment #30

    More to the point why would Newcastle go after a mediocre manager who refused them 3 times?

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  • p

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:54 PM

    Comment #31

    McClaren is a complete loser.

    We don’t know that Viera is a loser (yet).

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:54 PM

    Comment #32

    TFL,

    Because he may be willing to accept the policies at the club. Shambles.

    That short list, and lets be honest, for a club like the Toon is shocking. It’s really a shortlist on who may be willing to take us on under the pathetic policies.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:54 PM

    Comment #33

    Standard nufc really these days

    Jobs for the boys, all old pals all f**kin useless

    Jeez McClaren and Carver……..oh the ambition of the dream team, lead buy a man sacked for crashing and burning in spectacular fashion in the fizzy pop supported by his knuckle dragging assistant who thinks pass and move is a technique to walk past tramps at a bus stop

    Canny wait

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  • will die for the toon army

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:55 PM

    Comment #34

    Wat is do exciting abt PV. I really dont get it. Mclaren is a proven manager and a safe bet. he has made his mistakes. Forget England. Every one has a bad spell.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:55 PM

    Comment #35

    Oh dear Lee another ill advised Bishop PR fumble…..

    @elgalgojonas: The coments that coló has supposed to have said about me to nufc are un true i have spoken to him about this matter.

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  • count

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:57 PM

    Comment #36

    Sweet Jesus. Can’t wait for all this regurgitated speculative crap to be over. Hope it is someone that hasn’t even been mentioned by any media/blogs.

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  • NezzaNUFC

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:57 PM

    Comment #37

    Don’t forget Pep and Jose M were reserve/under 21 managers and look how that turned out.

    PV is in a similar mold to these two, if McC comes in as head coach we will see the same playing style as we have already because McC is known for his long direct play ( Boro and Twente can confirm this )

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  • p

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:58 PM

    Comment #38

    what’s all the faux outrage about Jonas and RTaylor told they were not getting a new contract by phone?

    if I was a millionaire footballer, I could not be bothered to come in to LC’s office just to be told something I already had figured out.

    A text would have been just fine for me.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:58 PM

    Comment #39

    betty…Refusing to go in to talks with us? Surely not 🙂

    “Hope” is all we have really. I wont knock you for it. I have hope too. It’s somewhere around here. Maybe I leant it to someone?

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  • Belfast

    Jun 1, 2015 at 10:58 PM

    Comment #40

    It’s Stevie! It’s always been Stevie.

    They aren’t bothered he’s turned us down previously either. The same football board repeatedly try and sign players who have turned us down previously.

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