It’s Either McClaren Or Carver For Head Coach – So Disappointing


This could turn out to be a very bad week for Newcastle United,  as it appears the club wants to stick with their failed stricture and system.

Sky Sports has reported that Patrick Vieira is out of the running, presumably because for one thing he would want more control in who comes into the club during the transfer windows.

john carver at QPR

John Carver – will be interviewed for head coach position
Hint to John – don’t talk about your record

Lee Charnley and Graham Carr do the real transfer business at the club, and while the head coach can have some input into the process, Graham Carr is really the person who is acting like a Director of Football and he is the real decider.

The latest news from Sky Sports is that Newcastle will now speak to John Carver about the head coach position, and they have also verified that Patrick Vieira is out of the running for the job, as we mentioned at the start.

Why John Carver is even being considered after his record this year in 20 games, when he nearly had the club relegated – is beyond us – but Newcastle these days don’t seem to be logical at all.

They seem to be parochial and want to keep those already at the club in place,  even after they show they are not very good – as was the case with John Carver this year.

How can we ever be successful with that kind of thinking at the club?

This is Carver’s record at Newcastle.

CompetitionPlayedWonDrawnLostGFGAGDPoints
League1934121835-1713
FA Cup100101-1
Overall2034131836-1813

Lee Charnley and company seem to want to continue with the policies Mike Ashley has put in place .which have been shown again and again not to work.

Mike Ashley has said he will allow Lee Charnley to make the head coach decision, but if the Managing Director comes up with McClaren and/or John Carver the fans will not like that – and Mike should move in if it looks like Lee’s reaching that decision.

Yes – the owner will allow Lee Charnley to make the decision as long as it’s the right one.

🙂

After all Charnley reports to Mike Ashley directly, and Lee should now be on uncertain ground after he did absolutely nothing to prevent Newcastle being relegated over the final three months of the season.

Charnley seems to be inexperienced in executive management and what managers are supposed to do in times of crisis..

And while Steve McClaren is said to be a good coach – if we had a choice between McClaren and Alan Pardew we’d probably take Alan Pardew – because he had some great results against the top sides in England.

How an appointment of Steve McClaren – who’s been sacked many times as a manager – can be appointed at Newcastle we have no idea – although he is friends with Graham Carr.

This could be a very bad week for Newcastle fans – because we’d be in the same situation where money is king and there’s no ambition – well at least no ambition to appoint a really good head coach who is known throughout the football world.

This is all very disappointing for Newcastle fans everywhere.

One last hope is that somebody else may be interviewed this week – maybe Remi Garde or Michael Laudrup – and they could still get the job – but it’s not looking good from the outside.

Comments welcome.



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77 comments so far

  • Jail for Ashley

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:40 PM

    Comment #1

    The trouble is with the likes of Munster and Toon Prodigy, it suits their agenda just fine having someone like McLaren, when the fans get on his case they can shout from the roof tops it’s not his fault, Ashley is the problem, why can’t you all see that Ashley is the problem.

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  • Uri Gellers Magic Mind

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:40 PM

    Comment #2

    Dreadful

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:41 PM

    Comment #3

    So McLaren is the horse that is going to be bolted on to the Carver cart !

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:42 PM

    Comment #4

    I sincerely hope this gives the protest numbers the same recruitment as Bloody Sunday gave the IRA !

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  • SuperShearer

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:42 PM

    Comment #5

    Genuine plee to fellow fans. DO. NOT. RENEW. YOUR. SEASON. TICKETS. Let the club prove that they are taking heed of our feelings and that Ashley’s interview wasn’t just more lies to get us to give him more money.

    We need to appoint a good head coach who can take us up the table. If John Carver is appointed it will be a joke around world football. He shouldn’t even really be employed here anymore. It’s appalling how badly he did.

    Ashley, and Charnley need to really look at what they’re doing and ask themselves “Is this for the better of the club or our profit margin?”

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:42 PM

    Comment #6

    It says it all about how far we’ve fallen when people would prefer Alan Pardew back. You couldn’t make it up.

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  • cyprus

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:43 PM

    Comment #7

    Ed, Ed,
    live with it man 🙂

    The inept one is gone. AP over Mc!? What has your favourite manager ever won?

    Do you forget the unwatchable football?

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  • NezzaNUFC

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:43 PM

    Comment #8

    2 of the worse English managers to take over NUFC!

    Says it all really.

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  • cyprus

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:43 PM

    Comment #9

    Next we’ll be reminiscing about the JC days 🙂

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  • xiaofeiii

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #10

    It will never be John Craver. But then, we have to settle for some Big Mac from Macdonalds.

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  • nut meg

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #11

    REPOST
    If it is SM I think his honeymoon period has just got shorter.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:45 PM

    Comment #12

    The best type of horse to bolt onto a cart is a carthorse. Ashley was telling us. We just didn’t see it.

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  • hibbit

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:47 PM

    Comment #13

    carver could be first choice as Mc WONT work with him or other coaches he want his own people thats the hold up

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  • expatmag

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:48 PM

    Comment #14

    Eeerrrr I hate to say it boys but if Mclaren has turned us down twice already, expect him to do it again.

    So then its Carver….

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  • toon22

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:49 PM

    Comment #15

    Maybe he needs SM to advertise one of his tatty brolleys from SD.
    Bring back Graeme Souness even he is a better choice or even JFK for one final stab at killing him while in the job.

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  • NezzaNUFC

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:49 PM

    Comment #16

    ALERT ALERT

    To all Newcastle players

    LEAVE whilst you can.

    Imagine how the players feel? most of them don’t know SM and some may know him as a Championship manager which to them is a downgrade so already their moral would take a hit, no players would want to come here now since a championship manager is in charge.

    Oh and prepare for champ players like willo!

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  • Riviere Run Dry

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:49 PM

    Comment #17

    Poor hysterical hens.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:50 PM

    Comment #18

    So so predictable, another great opportunity squandered and continued mediocrity ensured.

    After 45 years this is it for me till Ashley is gone and god knows when that may be.

    Crimes against NUFC

    ASHLEY
    WONGA
    CARVER
    CHARNLEY
    LLAMBIAS
    WISE
    JFK x 2
    PARDEW

    Was escaping relegation so great?

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  • cyprus

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:50 PM

    Comment #19

    I mean, let’s face it. Our most consistent manager was JC. Fact.

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  • toon22

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:50 PM

    Comment #20

    IM sure MA can rely on his board to sort it all out.

    Oh wait ………

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  • croftus5678

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:51 PM

    Comment #21

    so we go;
    pards = avg (we wanted better)
    linked with garde = 🙂
    linked with galtier = 🙂
    we got carver = 🙁

    then linked with mac who’s avg imo but def an upgrade from carver
    linked with laudrup who’s avg imo
    then viera (who could have promise and is prob the best candidate so far)

    then we are blatantly threatened to our faces that he will appoint carver ……unless we accept mcclaren 😉

    well…thats what i’ve taken away from all this anyway 🙂

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:51 PM

    Comment #22

    expat,
    Yes, people are forgetting that, why would he want to come here to face the same treatment as Pardew. When Pardew was hired the fans were on the back of a feel good factor from promotion and a mackem slaughtering, a lot of people thought that the reclusive Billionaire wanted success and was learning from his mistakes, four years down the line and McLaren has been given hindsight into what’s in store for him.

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  • barkel

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:51 PM

    Comment #23

    All a lot of he said, she said at the minute. If JC or McLaren are given the job I would expect the protests from the very first game of next season.

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  • IrishGeordie9

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:52 PM

    Comment #24

    This club is a fcuking shambles. Why does everything have to be so shady? Why are we always fcuking guessing? The lack of communication is depressing, but not as depressing as the thought of the club still pursuing McClaren and still fcuking considering Carver. Do they learn anything the fcuking set of absolute cnuts. Im sorry for my language but this has put me in an awful mood. I fcuking knew Viera would be a smoke screen because this club is so shady. Trying to find a way to appoint McClaren without it setting uproar with the fans. Hence, Carver being considered. Why the fcuk are they so keen on McClaren? What! Because he’s a yes man? Because he’s mates with carr so they can all have a fun time whilst we watch a shower of s**t on the pitch? The man rejected us TWICE yet we still want him, are we that fcuking desperate? Absolute p**s take. I hope the fans protest once the club have got there prince fcuking charming. Tw**s!

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  • nut meg

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:53 PM

    Comment #25

    I’m hoping it’s to sack Carver & NOT to give him the job!!

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  • NezzaNUFC

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:53 PM

    Comment #26

    F@ck the first game, I would start in pre-season

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  • nightfa11

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:54 PM

    Comment #27

    “It’s there job to get the best pound for pound value out of those resources.”

    we’ll to be fair..carver and mclaren are the best you can get for 1 ponud..

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:54 PM

    Comment #28

    croftus,
    Going on your logic of players that have been injured or under performed not deserving a face to face meeting to be told they’re being moved on, who would you say has deserved such courtesy over the last eight years.

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  • toon22

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:54 PM

    Comment #29

    Im sure the news will see season ticket sales explode,hope they have enough shirts for the clamour it will obviously create.
    I mean we have the leagues best manager possibly having a giant of the game such as SM(if he dont turn us down again) joining his elite team.Hope someone like Real Madrid dont poach the lot from uner our noses.

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  • Slank

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #30

    REPOST

    I said previously that Vieira and McClaren both ticked the boxes but not necessarily the same boxes. If it’s not Vieira regrettably then I would welcome McClaren.

    It’s worth remembering that McClaren achieved more at Boro than any manager at Newcastle since Joe Harvey ever did. He didn’t achieve anything as England manager but then again neither did any manager after Sir Alf. He did well in Holland but not so in Germany and had mixed results in the Championship.

    If he arrives he will be the most experienced manager since Sir Bobby but that doesn’t mean he will win trophies as it also eluded Sir Bob.

    Bit of a lottery.

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  • one fine day

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:57 PM

    Comment #31

    Repost
    141one fine day // Jun 2, 2015 at 1:47 PM

    Let’s hope someone at the press conference has the balls to ask. This…
    ” so schteeeeve you have turned down newcastle publicly twice now , the last time being when the club was facing the very real possibility of relegation, how can fans trust you after that ?
    “And despite charnleys. Statement last January what do you say about you were given the job mainly due to your friendship with Alan Carr ?”

    One things for sure the local press won’t be asking it and facing another ban from the head office in Pyongyang .
    Utter utter C@@ts the lot of them

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  • NezzaNUFC

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:59 PM

    Comment #32

    ST will crumble, Shirt sales will fall, protest will be massive compare to other seasons, sponsors would keep away, players won’t want to come, key players will want a move.

    Fully deserved imo.

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  • one fine day

    Jun 2, 2015 at 1:59 PM

    Comment #33

    17Riviere Run Dry // Jun 2, 2015 at 1:49 PM
    Is there a purpose or point to your posts?

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  • toon22

    Jun 2, 2015 at 2:00 PM

    Comment #34

    Its embarassing at he end of the day,the whole lot is an utter shambles.
    Religation next season it would seem.
    Dont forget to get your season ticket so you can have a front row seat to the MA car crash season.

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  • hibbit

    Jun 2, 2015 at 2:00 PM

    Comment #35

    one fine day ……….he has not taken the job yet he just might turn it down again

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  • ITUNDERASHELL

    Jun 2, 2015 at 2:01 PM

    Comment #36

    The Rangers fans have balls and have him in court, so what are our UNITED fans doing F++k all.
    Brow some balls and Ashley might just give the supporters some respect. Until then you are a soft touch and will continue to be led like lambs to the slaughter.

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  • ITUNDERASHELL

    Jun 2, 2015 at 2:02 PM

    Comment #37

    A mass and I mean a mass cancellation of your direct debit and then take the bastard to court as a group. Any legal boy’s on this site?

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  • sickandtired

    Jun 2, 2015 at 2:02 PM

    Comment #38

    Vieira is still in Wales finishing his coaching course. The Club have NOT even approached him let alone spoken to him.
    Basically sall we know for sure is that Carver is going to be spoken to in the next 48 hours. Everything else is all press speculation and bookies odds.
    If you can’t get PV into his first managerial job, does anyone think a Laudrup, Garde or similar would entertain this job?
    If McClaren would then he has sunk even lower in my already low estimation of him.
    Sorry, but I think its all aboard the no change train to nowhere

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jun 2, 2015 at 2:03 PM

    Comment #39

    Waited at least 10 minutes for the bog at Costa Grey Street. Gave in and went to Theatre Royal. Couldn’t find one so came back to find the cleaner spraying air freshener. Sums up my day and everything about NUFC at the moment. Costa want a trainee barista but the manager’s words are: “Charnley. The f******** tea boy. No chance. We run a competent ship here.”

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  • ITUNDERASHELL

    Jun 2, 2015 at 2:03 PM

    Comment #40

    A lot talk on here but who is going to walk the walk? Cancel your direct debit and he will take you seriously, until then Ashley is greatly amused by your indignation, knowing full well you will be sitting in the stadium watching dross will he lines his and Penfolds pockets. Penfold is worth 100 million and Ashley is worth 3 billion.
    Do you really think he gives a flying f++k what you think.

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