It’s Stunning What Newcastle Are About To Do


If all the reports coming through today are true – then it’s really hard to believe what Newcastle United are about to do – especially after we were almost relegated for the second time in three seasons – and even though some very good coaches available it seems that the staid minds running Newcastle will keep with their first choice after Alan Pardew left the club in January.

That first choice was Steve McClaren, who has since been fired by Derby County after the championship side fell away badly in their fight for promotion in the final two months of the season.

steve mcclaren

Steve McClaren – during one of Derby’s games this year
They collapsed in the final months of the season and finished 8th
Steve was fired a week ago – but is still good enough for Newcastle
If he looks like this managing Derby what’s he going to be like managing Newcastle?


And as we go after a manager who wasn’t good enough for a Championship side last season,  it seems that John Carver will continue as the assistant manager at Newcastle, after he almost took the club down with 13 defeats in 20 games he managed at Newcastle – but hey – he’s good enough for Newcastle.

And in addition to that,  the news on Sky Sports today is that John Carver is being interviewed for the head coach position at the club.

Only Newcastle would think this way – and a Steve McClaren – John Carver partnership – is what they wanted when Alan Pardew walked out of the club in late December.

It could even be John Carver who gets the job – heaven forbid.

And even after the terrible scare we had of almost being relegated – and  after Mike Ashley was scared enough about the situation to actually agree to being interviewed on Sky Sports – the club is still going ahead with what will look to fans like a terrible, uninspiring  appointment.

To appoint Steve McClaren as head coach seems to show the club still has no ambitions of fighting for a top six position in the Premier League – whatever Mike Ashley said nine days ago.

Steve  may not be good enough for Derby County and a number of other ordinary clubs in Europe he’s managed and been fired from – but he’s good enough for this Newcastle – probably because he will not rock the boat.

And while fans wanted Carver fired after eight defeats in a row,  it looks like he’s going to keep his position at the club as assistant manager.

That’s even though fans have been turned off the Geordie coach,  by not only his poor coaching this year, but his rather naive and stupid comments he made in his press interviews.

He was often an embarrassment to the Newcastle United Football club with the statements he made.

Only Newcastle could come up with this bizarre decision, after all that’s happened this year.

Will they never learn from their  mistakes?

Probably not.

It’s stunning that Newcastle could be announcing this decision later this week – so detached (and unaware?) do they seem to be from what their fans really want.

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211 comments so far

  • ilovetoon8788

    Jun 2, 2015 at 2:41 PM

    Comment #1

    @NezzaNUFC // Jun 2, 2015 at 2:38 PM

    i agree with you. SM CV is either he’s sacked or he resigns as soon as his team plays like shi*.

    but just looking at other ‘lesser’ clubs and the names of managers they are linked with, it feels like we are being betrayed all over again.

    how on earth can JC name still be in contention for the job. ridiculous.

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  • NezzaNUFC

    Jun 2, 2015 at 2:42 PM

    Comment #2

    Hit him where it hurts, protest to the max, now is the time for us fans to be heard.

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  • optimistic prime

    Jun 2, 2015 at 2:45 PM

    Comment #4

    Stunning? The word I’d use is TYPICAL

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  • cyprus

    Jun 2, 2015 at 2:46 PM

    Comment #5

    Ed,
    Maybe you too are panicking. Example: if Mc already has the job, why is JC, of all people, being interviewed for the SAME job?
    I think there is this list and these two names are up next. JC’s CV won’t be too impressive, I’d say. Steve’s too, although he’ll at least have something to put on it. Klopp’s will look better still.

    Let’s wait then.

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  • Belfast

    Jun 2, 2015 at 2:48 PM

    Comment #6

    Belfast // Jun 2, 2015 at 2:45 PM

    He wouldn’t of been my choice like, but it could be worse I suppose. I think what happens in the transfer market is a lot more important than the appointment of McClaren tbh

    If it’s the usual transfer blueprint we’re ferked, but if they properly back him he could do reasonably well.

    And by properly backing him I mean 10-15 million range not 4-5 million players with “potential”.

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  • Belfast

    Jun 2, 2015 at 2:49 PM

    Comment #7

    I think they want to “clarify” his position Cyprus.

    I would hope that means he’s getting fired but I doubt it.

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  • BandB

    Jun 2, 2015 at 2:49 PM

    Comment #8

    Ashley runs a main business that doesn’t do public relations and never has. He is used to being obeyed.
    He is also a man who seems to like a frisson of “I’m smarter than you” written into his dealings.
    I think these two things explain his public relations record.

    A good PR person will tell his client you cannot put lipstick on a pig.
    That doesn’t look to be happening.
    The TV interview had the aim of saying “you’ll not get me out, so stop trying. I might even make a few changes if you let me off the hook.”
    Some decry conspiracy theories. But the fact remains that if the club did not want to allow the Vieira story to take hold, they could have quickly scotched it.
    The Vieira story emerged on Sky within an hour of the Telegraph reporting that a McClaren coronation would take place this week, in what appeared to me as an attempt to kill the Telegraph’s story.
    Some decry conspiracy theories. But the fact remains that if the club did not want to allow the Vieira story to take hold, they could have quickly scotched it.
    The Vieira story has put McClaren in a gibbet.

    Some will argue that Ashley will love all this. But it creates the massive impression that he thinks sticking one up the fans, both loyal and critical, is far more of a priority than winning games of football.

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  • cyprus

    Jun 2, 2015 at 2:52 PM

    Comment #9

    Would be ironic if Stone’s position was ‘clarifed’ over the phone and then he handed his phone over to JC so that his was clarified as well 🙂

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  • shaun__

    Jun 2, 2015 at 2:53 PM

    Comment #10

    I’m going to repeat myself; I’m that mad! And there’s only one way out of this!:

    Sickening. They need to develop a new operating model and spill and fill. Carver, charnly and Carr should all go. Get a proper ceo (like a David dein) to recruit the rest of the structure. Then get a decent manager in, really go after a klopp, not the same old proven to be failures. This model is a complete farce.

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  • Bianchi_Boy

    Jun 2, 2015 at 2:54 PM

    Comment #11

    Uninspiring?

    A bit harsh.

    Mclaren has a better palmares (sorry, cycling reference…win history) than we’ve ever given him credit for.

    He’s won a cup (with Boro), a title (with FC Twente) and managed far and wide.

    Appointing Vieira would be a huge mistake.

    Mclaren might not have stardust attached to him – but at least he has a demonstrable and largely successful track record.

    Interviewing Carver is window dressing only.

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  • Bambams

    Jun 2, 2015 at 2:54 PM

    Comment #12

    They extend the ST deadline to 10th June…..

    Why ?

    Who the hell will sign for us now !

    To play under Charva!

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  • sickandtired

    Jun 2, 2015 at 2:57 PM

    Comment #13

    @Cyprus – FFS man, Klop would never come here.

    Fact is he isn’t going anywhere as he has made clear he’s taking a year off.

    McClaren walked out on Forest after 10 games as he said the Board did not match the finances he was promised. Does that sound like someone Ashley wants?

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  • Bambams

    Jun 2, 2015 at 2:57 PM

    Comment #14

    Carr needs to be careful here, he obviously has a lot of weight within the club.
    Maybe this is more about self preservation.
    A new idea, new manager might no longer want Carr scouting !
    His mate McLaren or Charva will keep him…..

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  • cyprus

    Jun 2, 2015 at 3:02 PM

    Comment #15

    Sick,
    Joking on Klopp, think he’s Liverpool bound.

    Our HC? We’ll probably say ‘who dat’ when we first hear his (or her, to be politically correct) name.

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  • Online Guy

    Jun 2, 2015 at 3:10 PM

    Comment #17

    Re: Mike Ashleys promise in front Of Sky sports Camera’s…

    “We’v got the cart now we have to bolt the Horse on ”

    Thus saying nowt really ….Divided the Fans again before the planned protest / Sit in ..

    Ashley is playing the Fans like a Knackred Fiddle

    False promise from Ashley ..How do I know this .., Well two examples..

    Danny Ing’s is there to be got …

    James Milner too, are we bidding for him ? are we in the chase for quality ? Big No .

    Liverpool in for both..

    And right now Ashley is having problems finding a new Yes man

    What a disgraceful Shower.

    I will walk away for good if Carver is installed. so will many of you , I know.

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  • ITUNDERASHELL

    Jun 2, 2015 at 3:12 PM

    Comment #18

    Anyone who renews their season ticket is either an imbecile or a masochist. Really cannot understand how dumb you are if you renew and good luck because you will be getting everything you deserve.

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  • BandB

    Jun 2, 2015 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #19

    Ashley will have been massively emboldened by the reaction to his TV interview.
    He might have expected a grudging ceasefire while we gave him the benefit of the doubt for the very last time.
    I doubt he would have expected the fans to squirm with ecstasy, as they largely did.

    He may well have thought or been advised that he needed to make some vague concessions because the fans were on the verge of a riot.

    In fact all we needed was for daddy to smile and chuck us under the chin. He must have been staggered by how strong the support for him still is.

    If we get Carver, and there’s still a decent chance we will, Ashley will expect to see that too swallowed, accepted and then justified by fans.

    I doubt he will ever feel the need to speak to us again.

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  • lesh

    Jun 2, 2015 at 3:20 PM

    Comment #20

    Despite his stage-managed interview which said bugger all, the Ashley circus rumbles on.

    Even if the HC speculation is wrong, then a statement should be issued to at least try to establish some credibility to the recruitment process.

    But no, Ashley seems to wallow in shambles and if this is a sign of what’s to come, it’s time for ST holders to put in writing a formal request for cancellation and a refund of any moneys paid. Those contemplating renewal, don’t do it!

    I’m sure there’s a scribe with a legal brain among the Ashley Out campaign, NUST or the Forum who could draft a template letter for use by those seeking a refund.

    Ashley continues to abuse fans’ faith, hope and good will and it’s time to get the campaign marching again – if nothing else to shake Ashley out of his arrogant complacency.

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  • ashleysmate

    Jun 2, 2015 at 3:22 PM

    Comment #21

    Thought they were to announce they would be hanging big mike from the tyne bridge…ah well..

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  • sparky55

    Jun 2, 2015 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #22

    Bridge would need strengthening or the whole thing would come tumbling down

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  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    Jun 2, 2015 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #23

    I suppose he was always going to go for the least popular of the three. It could still be a lot worse than Shteve, mind. I still think the football would be better than it has been in recent times.

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  • hibbit

    Jun 2, 2015 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #24

    ashleysmate no we thought we would hang you instead

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jun 2, 2015 at 3:28 PM

    Comment #25

    No conspiracy theories. Simply rank incompetence. How is a tea boy and a comedian’s dad going to attract any manager, never mind an average one?

    No wonder it’s taken six months and now this debacle. Those incompetents don’t understand the club or its fans.

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  • WWSBRD

    Jun 2, 2015 at 3:28 PM

    Comment #26

    People kicking off about Newcastle interviewing…personally I’d be more annoyed by sky sports making out like bandits on the bets they tell people to make via Sky sports

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  • Online Guy

    Jun 2, 2015 at 3:31 PM

    Comment #27

    Two seasons ago I was sitting in the Leazes end, level with the crossbar. behind the goal, central, .Surrounded by little old ladies..they were not Knitting but they might as well have been..

    .It was strange sitting there as the thought crossed my mind that I used to stand there with the Boot Boys in the 70’s – and there I was surrounded by what seemed like the Woman’s institute.

    Yes, the Clientèle have certainly Changed over a few decades

    52.000 theatre goers ..well almost ..That’s why the passionate and the vociferous are largely ignored by Ashley…your in the minority now ..We walk away from the dross and the budget Football and Ashley sleeps well.

    The Little old Ladies don’t mind ..Let them Knit on.

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  • davetoon

    Jun 2, 2015 at 3:33 PM

    Comment #29

    If McClaren is hired, I will blame (and never forgive) Carr. Hes just hiring his mate.

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  • Pop n Wyn

    Jun 2, 2015 at 3:34 PM

    Comment #30

    As we know the way we told Raylor n jonas about Bo new contract was pitiful,uet the got 7 years apiece out of the club and had for me too much of a run at this club, our stays show we did not score a single direct set piece in 38 games and we had our special dead ball man in Raylor, mmmmm, nobody attacking the penalty area to get pens, shocking, one penalty, the very worst defending of crosses i can ever remember, and now as Ed said Mclaren looks like getting the gig after being sacked by a 8th placed team in the championship, we all know u could not make it up.

    And u thought it was just Carvers job ti coach the team??? Why the hell did that little bugga Charnley not tell them face to face, bloody hypocrites, they always get our backs up one way or another.

    Stop mucking us about!!!

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  • armchair fan

    Jun 2, 2015 at 3:34 PM

    Comment #31

    Honest to god boys and girls, ladies and gents, if MA (NOT LC – remember, MA is the useless sack of shite that appointed LC) appoints someone of the ilk of McLaren, Carver etc then I will truly become an Aston Villa follower until Newcastle are rid of this absolute bacteria from the butthole.

    He’s a conspicuous liar and that interview, even though I knew he was lying, was the last glimmer of hope and he’s just diminished it.

    I will not be supporting a McLaren, Ashley and Charnley team. I’m not even as sad as I thought I would be

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jun 2, 2015 at 3:40 PM

    Comment #32

    armchair fan …who ever gets appointed will be by Charmless with the approval of MA!

    …it will be Charmless call (probably back by Carr) and sanctioned by MA!

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  • BandB

    Jun 2, 2015 at 3:41 PM

    Comment #33

    Online,

    At least we little old ladies can explain why we have no nuts 🙂

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  • lochinvar

    Jun 2, 2015 at 3:44 PM

    Comment #34

    How can Viera turns us down if he’s not even been approached, yet alone interviewed ? The stench of lies from the club is overpowering.

    Charnley comes into the category of a WW1 General who says ” its ok boys, go over the top and all will be well and we will win through”

    Will somebody please send him to Mars, or Hartlepool or anywhere that gets him out of the toon, please just go , go, just go , go now , go

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  • Online Guy

    Jun 2, 2015 at 3:47 PM

    Comment #35

    BandB

    Are you certain about that now ? Tee hee…!

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  • davis_toons

    Jun 2, 2015 at 3:47 PM

    Comment #36

    John Carver is not even good enough to be an assistance coach,

    Why was there NO CHANGE to a VERY VERY POOR Set Pieces often to Williamson???? This Guy cant head the Ball and set his teammate up all season after season.

    Is still the same old Set Pieces. Why didn’t an John Caver tried to work something different out until we were about to relegate.

    Cant he point out to AP that the SetP is not working at all?

    When he changes from Willo to Colo..just look at the chances we have got and how many time Colo setup his teammates.. changes after chances. He ALMOST even got on the score sheet as well.

    What was JC doing?

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Jun 2, 2015 at 3:48 PM

    Comment #37

    Rumours abide – but about a month ago Carver was in our local and told them if he kept the TOON up he would get the job of manager for next season. mmmmmmm
    Could the rumour be true !!!!!!!!

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  • BandB

    Jun 2, 2015 at 3:48 PM

    Comment #38

    OG

    It was a joke..not a jibe.

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  • Online Guy

    Jun 2, 2015 at 3:49 PM

    Comment #39

    BandB

    Good afternoon Hinny..love your posts . I always stop to read them thoroughly.

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  • Online Guy

    Jun 2, 2015 at 3:50 PM

    Comment #40

    BandB

    I know …made me laugh….

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