If all the reports coming through today are true – then it’s really hard to believe what Newcastle United are about to do – especially after we were almost relegated for the second time in three seasons – and even though some very good coaches available it seems that the staid minds running Newcastle will keep with their first choice after Alan Pardew left the club in January.
That first choice was Steve McClaren, who has since been fired by Derby County after the championship side fell away badly in their fight for promotion in the final two months of the season.
Steve McClaren – during one of Derby’s games this year
They collapsed in the final months of the season and finished 8th
Steve was fired a week ago – but is still good enough for Newcastle
If he looks like this managing Derby what’s he going to be like managing Newcastle?
And as we go after a manager who wasn’t good enough for a Championship side last season, it seems that John Carver will continue as the assistant manager at Newcastle, after he almost took the club down with 13 defeats in 20 games he managed at Newcastle – but hey – he’s good enough for Newcastle.
And in addition to that, the news on Sky Sports today is that John Carver is being interviewed for the head coach position at the club.
Only Newcastle would think this way – and a Steve McClaren – John Carver partnership – is what they wanted when Alan Pardew walked out of the club in late December.
It could even be John Carver who gets the job – heaven forbid.
And even after the terrible scare we had of almost being relegated – and after Mike Ashley was scared enough about the situation to actually agree to being interviewed on Sky Sports – the club is still going ahead with what will look to fans like a terrible, uninspiring appointment.
To appoint Steve McClaren as head coach seems to show the club still has no ambitions of fighting for a top six position in the Premier League – whatever Mike Ashley said nine days ago.
Steve may not be good enough for Derby County and a number of other ordinary clubs in Europe he’s managed and been fired from – but he’s good enough for this Newcastle – probably because he will not rock the boat.
And while fans wanted Carver fired after eight defeats in a row, it looks like he’s going to keep his position at the club as assistant manager.
That’s even though fans have been turned off the Geordie coach, by not only his poor coaching this year, but his rather naive and stupid comments he made in his press interviews.
He was often an embarrassment to the Newcastle United Football club with the statements he made.
Only Newcastle could come up with this bizarre decision, after all that’s happened this year.
Will they never learn from their mistakes?
Probably not.
It’s stunning that Newcastle could be announcing this decision later this week – so detached (and unaware?) do they seem to be from what their fans really want.
Comments welcome.
211 comments so far
hibbit
Jun 2, 2015 at 3:53 PM
Comment #41is carver back from the usa
davis_toons
Jun 2, 2015 at 3:53 PM
Comment #42Its all the Management Tactics.
Keep the Paying Fans in the Dark.
Mike, Show us that you can be trusted.
mickalfas
Jun 2, 2015 at 3:54 PM
Comment #43Its exactly as I thought ,more of the same next year ,no ambition ,what can change
We are having the same buyer of players,and the village idiot training the shower of shite that’s bought for him
A second rate yes man to kiss fatties backside ,let’s wait and see how much the transfer budget is going to be ,£10m max net
We’ll be lucky to name a squad of 25 next season ,what a fcuking abomination this club is ,I despair
lesh
Jun 2, 2015 at 3:54 PM
Comment #44Charlie
Keep the club up and he’s HC? He damned near had us down!
Now had it been 10th or better and it’s his, maybe but his overall performance suggests he’s not even fit to be an assistant HC. He should be to seek opportunities commensurate with his talents, elsewhere.
lesh
Jun 2, 2015 at 3:57 PM
Comment #45Davis_toon
Keeping fans in the dark is known in management-speak as applying the mushroom principle.
The second stage is to throw shit on them, regularly!
Seems about right eh?
davis_toons
Jun 2, 2015 at 3:59 PM
Comment #46Get Some Cheaper Assistance Manager in..a younger and someone with better techincial knowledge..there are in the lower league .
c-dog
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:02 PM
Comment #47Graham Carrs mates…
WWSBRD
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:04 PM
Comment #48Haha so blame is moving on to Carr now?
Nufc-83
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:04 PM
Comment #49A scout at the club has informed a work collegue that Steve Mclaren has already signed for Newcastle and he has put 3k on with my work collegue lumping on yesterday for 2k at evens!!
For some reason he said they will inform everyone on the 10th but not sure how they can think it wont get out if thats the case and it seems weird why not say its done now!!
Only way you can describe it is typical
tequilamag
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:05 PM
Comment #50WWSBRD nobody is safe
Lee Charnley Bunga Party
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:07 PM
Comment #51Also I hate how these ex pros are always saying Carver is a “Great Coach” on what basis??
Our set pieces have been terrible for years whos fault is that ? Carver has been the coach for years along with that other dunce Pardew
We can rarely do pass and move football despite having Dutch and French Internationals and quite a few other technical players whos fault is that ? Carver and Pardews again!!
Look at the difference in Swansea they have been coached properly and have lesser players on paper than what we have but are light years ahead on football played
Carver needs his P45 along with the rest of the idiots
WWSBRD
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:08 PM
Comment #52tequila
Not even the scouts… Look out tea lady
Lee Charnley Bunga Party
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:09 PM
Comment #53@Nufc-83
What the club might want to do is announce Mclaren and on the same day announce a few players ? Like a big launch to try get season tickets etc sold
davis_toons
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:11 PM
Comment #54There is always this banishment when we related about this Fatso..as much as i appreciated his ways of balancing the book on the financial side. Isnt it time NOW to show a bit of ambition for the millions of faithful?
We are not asking alot..We are supporting the Club We Love.
ToonFromLeeds
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:13 PM
Comment #55@LCBP what sense would it make to announce it on the same day as the season ticket deadline? surely a couple of days before would make sense?
Thump
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:14 PM
Comment #56Honestly, what did anybody expect? Vieira would come in and win a cup? He was never going to drink from the poisoned chalice at NUFC. Hope he goes off to Fenerbace and becomes a top manager.
It was always between Brolly Boy and Tea Boy. Sadly I can sea Tea Boy getting the job… and then Brolly being charged with bringing us up from the championship the season after.
ToonFromLeeds
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:15 PM
Comment #57What am I talking about? who currently in power at NUFC has any bloody sense?
tequilamag
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:15 PM
Comment #58WWSBRD behind every evil genius stands a tea lady. JC was tipping us off but we never saw it
Lee Charnley Bunga Party
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:17 PM
Comment #59@ToonfromLeeds
Was just about to say that too you!! Newcastle dont work like any other club or business !!
Probably think announcing Patrick Bamford on loan , David Concha, Steve Mclaren and Carver as his no 2 will excite the fans so much that they go wild for tickets!!!
WWSBRD
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:18 PM
Comment #60tequila
Haha ur not wrong mate
nut meg
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:19 PM
Comment #61hibbit
Carver was at the Gary Speed golf memorial day yesterday so yes he’s back…..wish he wasn’t but.
banjax
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:22 PM
Comment #62Okay let’s all calm down. The press are having a field day with stories that contradict, and most that are simply not true. If all business was conducted with full knowledge of the public then it would be stupid – much like all the confused crap that is eminating from the media. One minute McClaren is favourite and the next revelation is he has’nt been interviewed. Now it’s a panic story about Carver being the only candidate and a dead cert. Take a step back everybody cool down and save the high blood pressure for when there is ACTUAL news. Stay Calm – Carry On !
davis_toons
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:29 PM
Comment #63I will be on every time to Bash This Mushroom Management if this McClaren thing don’t works out. And that bullshit interview.
ToonFromLeeds
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:30 PM
Comment #64Freddy thinks Ashley needs to spend money! No Shit
https://nufcdigest.wordpress.com/2015/06/02/freddy-shepherd-ashley-needs-to-splash-the-cash-for-new-boss/
lesh
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:32 PM
Comment #65Hibbet
Carver’s back already? They must’ve kicked him out of the US as an undesirable!
Our Toon
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:34 PM
Comment #66Ed
You had a poll a few weeks back asking if fans were feeling more optimistic or upbeat about the future after MA Q&A session….i was in the 34% who voted NO!! Can we have the same poll again to see just how things have changed over 2 weeks!!
WWSBRD
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:37 PM
Comment #67Our Toon
Nothing has actually happened to cause a change though
The club haven’t done anything in that time
Our Toon
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:38 PM
Comment #68Banjax
Where do the tabloids get the news from? Most of the time it’s leaked from the club. Smart money would suggest it will be McClaren or Carver it’s not often both the bookies and the papers get it wrong together!!
lesh
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:38 PM
Comment #69Banjax
If Ashley had any sense he’d issue a statement dismissing all speculation and assuring fans that the club is in the process of recruiting an established HC who will be part of a project to take the club to a higher level.
But oh no, he seems to thrive in the shit and its associated ridicule that’s perpetuated.
Professional? Image conscious?Ashley?
Nah, that adjectives and his name just don’t sit naturally together.
No chance
barkel
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:40 PM
Comment #70WWSBRD
I think that’s the point!
After “the interview” and the win against WHU, there seemed to be a surprising turn around in peoples opinion on what direction the club we going in. The fact that there appears as though nothing has happening in the weeks that followed having the same poll again would get a more realistic view of opinion
YouCouldn'tMakeItUp
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:42 PM
Comment #71Seeing reports of a sudden media confrence being called by Fifa. Totally unexpected apparently. Wonder whats happening
Our Toon
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:43 PM
Comment #72WWSBRD
Nothing has happened in 2 weeks? After some fell for fat man Q&A you’d have thought if he was serious this all would have been wrapped up by now? They’ve only had since January to interview people amd pick the right candidate for the role…..turns out we are still after a bloke who has rejected us 3 times and a bloke who almost got us relegated.
In that 2 weeks we’ve not made any moves in the transfer marker and we’ve managed to show no class whatsoever in how Jonas and Raylor were dealt with.
The fact that nothing has happened and we still behave like morons to good servants of this club shows nothing ever will change!!
WWSBRD
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:44 PM
Comment #73barkel
I think it would just show the reactionary folk who aren’t sure what they think have decided to click the Y button instead of the X
Club haven’t had time to do anything and at this point we know very little about what the club is actually doing other than they have approached some people for talks
Thump
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:45 PM
Comment #74@YouCouldn’tMakeItUp: Probably something to do with the bribery probe. Blatter’s deputy (Jerome Valcke) is being examined and he’s denying bribery payments to the South African FA or something.
WWSBRD
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:50 PM
Comment #75Our Toon
Well those who fell for it, as u put it, should have the wherewithal to give their decision time to offer change. The club stopped the managerial search when they appointed Carver they didn’t lie about that, were quite up front about it
As for whether we are after McClaren who knows, I have my opinion on it which I said ages ago and stick to it.
As for the transfer market I don’t know what we are doing in it, I assume very little but not many have announced all that much so far
But then hey I hold a great distain for these polls
scottoon
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:50 PM
Comment #76I said after the interview, and the victory over West Ham that it was vital that the club act quickly lest they risk losing the emotional momentum. I am no seer….it was so obvious and yet so many said they were willing to wait and see over the summer. With every passing moment, it is increasingly evident that the regime is taking the piss.
As Optimistic Prime observed…..”If you fool me once, shame on you……fool me twice, shame on me”
Well I am no fool and until this mess is sorted the Fat Man will see none of my cash.
#ASHLEYOUT
#HWTF
John Tudor
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:51 PM
Comment #77why wait start now
John Tudor
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:52 PM
Comment #78you know it makes sense
Mister Tuff
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:55 PM
Comment #79The Wally has been spotted on the Quayside -making his way to SJP for his “interview” (another con he’s already got the job).
http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/resources/images/3359686.jpg?type=article-full
ToonFromLeeds
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:55 PM
Comment #80“little more than an expression of interest over the phone.”
https://nufcdigest.wordpress.com/2015/06/02/manchester-city-directors-to-hold-talks-with-patrick-viera-this-summer-after-frenchman-was-linked-to-vacant-newcastle-job/