If all the reports coming through today are true – then it’s really hard to believe what Newcastle United are about to do – especially after we were almost relegated for the second time in three seasons – and even though some very good coaches available it seems that the staid minds running Newcastle will keep with their first choice after Alan Pardew left the club in January.
That first choice was Steve McClaren, who has since been fired by Derby County after the championship side fell away badly in their fight for promotion in the final two months of the season.
Steve McClaren – during one of Derby’s games this year
They collapsed in the final months of the season and finished 8th
Steve was fired a week ago – but is still good enough for Newcastle
If he looks like this managing Derby what’s he going to be like managing Newcastle?
And as we go after a manager who wasn’t good enough for a Championship side last season, it seems that John Carver will continue as the assistant manager at Newcastle, after he almost took the club down with 13 defeats in 20 games he managed at Newcastle – but hey – he’s good enough for Newcastle.
And in addition to that, the news on Sky Sports today is that John Carver is being interviewed for the head coach position at the club.
Only Newcastle would think this way – and a Steve McClaren – John Carver partnership – is what they wanted when Alan Pardew walked out of the club in late December.
It could even be John Carver who gets the job – heaven forbid.
And even after the terrible scare we had of almost being relegated – and after Mike Ashley was scared enough about the situation to actually agree to being interviewed on Sky Sports – the club is still going ahead with what will look to fans like a terrible, uninspiring appointment.
To appoint Steve McClaren as head coach seems to show the club still has no ambitions of fighting for a top six position in the Premier League – whatever Mike Ashley said nine days ago.
Steve may not be good enough for Derby County and a number of other ordinary clubs in Europe he’s managed and been fired from – but he’s good enough for this Newcastle – probably because he will not rock the boat.
And while fans wanted Carver fired after eight defeats in a row, it looks like he’s going to keep his position at the club as assistant manager.
That’s even though fans have been turned off the Geordie coach, by not only his poor coaching this year, but his rather naive and stupid comments he made in his press interviews.
He was often an embarrassment to the Newcastle United Football club with the statements he made.
Only Newcastle could come up with this bizarre decision, after all that’s happened this year.
Will they never learn from their mistakes?
Probably not.
It’s stunning that Newcastle could be announcing this decision later this week – so detached (and unaware?) do they seem to be from what their fans really want.
Comments welcome.
211 comments so far
tequilamag
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:58 PM
Comment #81Well I know it`s June but it feels like March so I am going to have a nice sausage casserole tonight.
Got the Champagne on ice ready to celebrate the 5PM press conference announcing Viera as manager.
SecretSausage // Jun 2, 2015 at 1:22 PM
see what I mean it’s pointless posting really. Carver is here at the ground now and so is Vierra yet comments like this are made purely to have a go at the info for no reason.
tequilamag // Jun 2, 2015 at 1:11 PM
Secret Sausage, terrible timing for your ITK info. The fact that Carver flew out on his holidays last Wed is a bit of a gaffe as well.
hibbit
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:58 PM
Comment #82not a word i like to use on here but i know for a FACT carver was booked for three weeks in the usa ……….i just wonder what has changed to bring him back early
WWSBRD
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:01 PM
Comment #83ToonFromLeeds
This interview seems to of worked out pretty well for that Frenchman, now am not suggesting that touting us as a possible destination MAY of worked in favour of his agenda…though got him in the papers, pushed for a new City contract and signalled his want to manage relatively soon
No am sure he was keen on the job, really
Ibizatoon
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:01 PM
Comment #84Afternoon kiddies, all having fun?
The excitement is getting all too much for me.
I can’t wait to see our emperors new clothes.
davis_toons
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:04 PM
Comment #85That wally was really funny..
ToonFromLeeds
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:04 PM
Comment #86WWSBRD fair point
WWSBRD
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:04 PM
Comment #87hibbit
Maybe his family were booked for 3 weeks away but he had confirmed the Speed golf day previously so had planned to cut his holiday short to be part of that
WWSBRD
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:06 PM
Comment #88ToonFromLeeds
Haha I must admit I hadn’t thought of it in that light until it was mentioned on the football ramble but it does make sense
tequilamag
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:06 PM
Comment #89WWSBRD he had booked a fortnight in Bridlington but it a bit parky so he came home early
Sazzer
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:09 PM
Comment #90jonas gutierrez ?@elgalgojonas
The coments that coló has supposed to have said about me to nufc are un true i have spoken to him about this matter.
I guess that makes it fabriciocated. Unbelievable.
Belfast
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:13 PM
Comment #91Yep Secret sausage stick to being a sausage !
Ibizatoon
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:13 PM
Comment #92Sazzer….”Fabriciocated” Brilliant 🙂
tequilamag
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:16 PM
Comment #93Belfast maybe they just delayed the presser because FIFA have just announced one at short noticeand did not want to clash. Fingers crossed Gollum is resigning.
Munster Mag
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:18 PM
Comment #94Assuming we get Schteve, I think we need to give the man a chance. There are worse out there, ( and better ) but he has far better credentials than Pardew had.
WWSBRD
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:20 PM
Comment #95Munster
I agree on that but I am one of the, apparently, very few who wouldn’t mind McClaren
tequilamag
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:22 PM
Comment #96WWSBRD/Munster not the most exciting of choices but pointless wanting him to fail. That is straying into Catchy terriotory
Mister Tuff
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:24 PM
Comment #97come on lads – you cannot be serious about McLaren – his career is on the wane. How many world clubs are after him.
Because he’s probably better than Carver should not mean we should accept him. Hobsons choice.
Need someone on the way up in their careers not someone on the slide otherwise it will be business as usual -ie no hope.
jordijohnty
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:25 PM
Comment #98If you turn up to watch this shlt then you are as much are part of the problem as the tw@ tts who have run this once great club into a shocking embarrasment, at all levels
Ibizatoon
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:26 PM
Comment #99Munster…Schteve will have his chance to win people over, just like Pardew did.
Stick he receives will not really be at him (at first), but at the club, for talking of change and then reverting to type.
I for one don’t think the club deserve a reset unless they actually change something. For me, hiring McLaren is a signal for more of the same.
Nothing personal Schteve.
tequilamag
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:27 PM
Comment #100Mister Tuff probably better than Carver?
Is that really in doubt.
Lee Charnley Bunga Party
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:28 PM
Comment #101If Mclaren had have taken over the second Pardew walked away there would have not been that much complaints at that time Derby were punching above their weight dramatically and playing some amazing to watch football
But because of Derby and our massive collapse in the 2nd half of the season It would feel like a bad move to hire him now what if the likes of Sissoko ,Krul stay at the club but dont respond to him and go through the motions again?
Belfast
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:30 PM
Comment #102Tequila any self respecting Itk knows to always scan the news outlets thoroughly before they give their inside information incase they look foolish.
Secret sausage didn’t do this. He made his Vieira prediction around one hour after sky sports said he was no longer under consideration.
School boy error. 🙂
tequilamag
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:30 PM
Comment #103Ibixa constantly getting on the managers back whoever he is just takes the flak off Mash.
McClaren is not my first choice nor was Pardew but they are just a symptom
Lindisfarne
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:30 PM
Comment #104I assume fans will now be congregating and protesting at the next Forum?
Has a date and venue been set?
tequilamag
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:33 PM
Comment #105Belfast,typical of Newcastle we can`t even attract any decent ITK these days
Shadow_Shearer
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:33 PM
Comment #106If the only two choices are McClaren & Carver, then only reason fat boy did the interview was cause the protects were gettin to him. Time to start a new one, this time against fat boy & Lee charnley.
ASHLEY & ALL MUPPETS OUT!!!
WWSBRD
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:33 PM
Comment #107tequila
Exciting? Nope but he will be better than Pardew and Carver, probably get us top 10 with some backing which is where the club wants to be
Tuff
what makes u think the club would go for anyone like that? We all want them to but the club will do what the club wants to do. From the clubs point of view McClaren is a fine choice. Pardews career was more than on the wane and he got us 5th with some backing and to some jolly fun times…didn’t last but he struggles once he is found out
bladeuser
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:34 PM
Comment #108Stop whinging and just wait for the brolly man and his side kick carver why r u surprised viera or any other good coach are not coming for f@#@ sake u know what this club is all about its rotten and full of liars just buy your tickets and wallow in the shit as u always do its the fat mans fault and your fault where nufc are
Belfast
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:36 PM
Comment #109I agree Munster it could be worse. They need to properly back him in the transfer window though. If he starts well he should be fine.
WWSBRD
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:37 PM
Comment #110bladeuser
Catch more flies with honey
geordiemark
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:38 PM
Comment #111my nephew and all his mates about 40 of them are all season ticket holders and every one of them have cancelled the direct debts and told the club until Ashley has sold up and took his donkey zero hour contract workers with him they wont return he was telling me today also my brother has cancelled as well as half my family and its a bloody big family, what am saying is that hey Ashley no ones being fooled this time your number is up fat lad
p
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:39 PM
Comment #112No, McClaren is an A class loser, no doubt about that. Beyond Carver, you’d be hard pushed to find a worse option (IMHO)
jordijohnty
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:39 PM
Comment #113How can it be worse than Mcclaren. Just cos we have had carver this year its like saying anyone else will do. well, i for one always expect us to be aiming for the top 6 anything else is just poor management and if you accept mid table dont follow/support newcastle
Lee Charnley Bunga Party
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:41 PM
Comment #114Mclaren is an upgrade on Pardew and Carver but about 70% of the time during those fannies being in charge I probably could have done a better job at tactics and coaching !!!
I just hope Mclaren realises that negative hoofball will no longer be acceptable , high pressing and attacking football is !! Lets hope he learned a lot from his Dutch days ……
tonynufc
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:42 PM
Comment #115I personally still think Vieira could a candidate for the job. This news about him not on hotseat anymore has escaladed from fenabache wanting him as technical director. He openly said he wants to b manager in his own right. No comments have officially came out saying he’s NOT going to b manager/head coach. And this shit about mcclaren being announced on the 10th. Why the hell then when that’s the date for st renewal. Surely they wud want someone in b4 then to guarantee people will renew
p
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:43 PM
Comment #116I think Viera or Garde would get a bit of leeway with the fans given their inexperience of managing a PL club, even if things did not go too well.
As soon as things go south for McClaren, there sill be no sympathy or understanding especially since he procrastinated about coming here.
geordiemark
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:43 PM
Comment #117Lee Charnley Bunga Party
I would like to know why derby county fell away so badly, they looked like champions before xmas
Ibizatoon
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:43 PM
Comment #118Tequila…You should know that I for one don’t see much point in venting at the manager, as I definitely view them as symptoms, rather than the issue.
Does that mean I’m going to jump on the go Schteve bandwagon? Nope.
For me, it just plays back in to the clubs attempt at a reset. Still, one should not try to guess the future, we will all react as we see fit, once the club actually does something.
I will be [insert word] if McLaren is appointed and the general feeling is oh well, he’s here, let’s wait and see. I wonder who is banking on that happening?
hibbit
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:45 PM
Comment #119belfast and if he does not start well the shit will hit the fan this time i dont even think he will get two games so he had better hit the floor running if Mc takes the job he must know he is no wanted
p
Jun 2, 2015 at 5:45 PM
Comment #120tony – not sure anyone in their right mind wuld want to renew with McClaren in charge.
As others have said, we are still dealing with paper talk so nothing is substantiated yet but, Charnley is so out of touch…