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This Newcastle Appointment Could Be A Master Stroke

8:39 am, Tuesday, June 2nd, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 27 Comments

If the news is to be believed this week, the two top candidates for the Newcastle head coach position – to be announced later this week – are Steve McClaren and Patrick Vieira.

One of those candidates is very much wanted by Newcastle fans and the other is very much not wanted by Newcastle fans.

Have a guess which is which.

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Patrick Vieira – in the running for Newcastle job

Since it’s supposed to be between the two of them – some reports have Remi Garde as a third candidate – we did a poll a couple of days ago on who the Newcastle fans wanted between the two candidates.

Who Do You Want As The New Newcastle Head Coach?

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It’s true that Patrick has never been a top coach and because of that he would be a risk – but it’s also a chance for the Tyneside club to sign up a former world class player who could become a world class coach and he already has contacts around the world.

So it’s a risk – reward judgement call.

On the other hand Newcastle could pick Steve McClaren,  who is very much a known entity and in our view not very good – in fact we think Alan Pardew was better than Steve, and certainly willing to take more risks in a game than McClaren will at Newcastle.

So Newcastle have to choose between taking a bold decision or going with another safe bet – just like John Carver was a supposed to be a safe bet in January.

The indecision on Patrick Vieira is seen in the  Twitter universe with Don Hutchinson not sure:

“Vieira to Newcastle. Can’t make my mind up if it fits or not!?”

But we think former Newcastle striker Michael Owen gets it exactly right in  his summation of a Patrick Vieira appointment:

Risky but could be a master stroke if it comes off. I think he feels it’s time to make the next step. Done his apprenticeship.

Newcastle can make a bold decision or take the easy choice as they have done under Managing Director Lee Charnley.

Which decision do you think Lee will make?

If it’s Steve McClaren all this talk from Ashley about building up the squad this summer and going after a trophy next season will look like it’s all talk once again – and nothing will have really changed.

Newcastle need to change, and this week would be a good time to do that by appointing Patrick Vieira as our new head coach.

Comments welcome.



Tags: Coaching · Head coach · Management · Newcastle News · Poll · Premier League




27 responses so far ↓

  • 1 optimistic prime // Jun 2, 2015 at 8:42 AM

    Lg

    Ashley said it was his fault.
    At no point did he say anything would change not did he apologise.

    I agree with you, because he spoke people lost their mind and assumed it meant whole sale change.

    Fool me once, as they say.
    The proofs in the pudding and a few are going to find it quite hard to swallow.

  • 2 Shaker Shakrah // Jun 2, 2015 at 8:44 AM

    Why Newcastle officials don’t see this ??

  • 3 sparky55 // Jun 2, 2015 at 8:45 AM

    A radio silence for 7 years, then he opens his mouth, commits to nothing but the fact he won’t be leaving in our life-time (cos we won’t win anything in our lifetime) whilst he milks the free advertising and SD PR, and everyone dreams about all the players and HC’s being thrown about by Ashleys PR machine to kid us into thinking we shooting for the stars when the deal has already been done…it’s it’s Wally and his brolly (his brolly being Carver) and our net spend on players will be SFA.

    PS…We’ll only get Bamford on loan if Sissoko goes to chelsea

  • 4 LGFUAD21 // Jun 2, 2015 at 8:45 AM

    What makes Laudrup more appealing than Mcclaren. Other than the fact he had a very good career as a player his teams have been bang average. Most of his Swansea signings flopped aside from Michu.

    Can’t help but feel his first season at Swansea was still riding on fumes left by Rogers and everywhere else he has gone has been unspectacular.

    He immediately improved Derby on the Clough era.

    People keep saying we need to break the mould, go foreign, footballs changes. It’s not changed that radically in the Prem. if anything the championship has moved closer to the prem in style (which his Derby team had).

    He doesn’t excite me but I really do t get what makes viera et Al better prospects.

  • 5 Mister Tuff // Jun 2, 2015 at 8:46 AM

    McLaren is yesterdays man, whose career is going the wrong way – downover.
    We need to hire someone excitng whose career is going in the other direction.
    I pray that it’s not McLaren – I relly don’t think he possesses any inspirational qualities at all. Will always be Wally.

  • 6 optimistic prime // Jun 2, 2015 at 8:47 AM

    Not only does NUFC have a terrible injury record but I think they could have mental health problems.

    Sissoko believes Mouriniho is tracking him. Carver beleives he’s the best HC in the world. The board are happy with Pardews managerial performance, and the fans expecting major change.

    Nuts, the lot

  • 7 firebug666 // Jun 2, 2015 at 8:47 AM

    I don’t think Viera was or has ever been a serious candidate. IMO his name being a big name being used to sell ST.

  • 8 Mister Tuff // Jun 2, 2015 at 8:48 AM

    At any other club – Carver would already be signing on a the dole office. His retention suggests to me that probably nothing really has changed much at SJP.

  • 9 theartfuldodger // Jun 2, 2015 at 8:48 AM

    Its best we prepare ourselves for McLaren to avoid any disappointment …

  • 10 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 2, 2015 at 8:49 AM

    Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 2, 2015 at 8:48 AM

    OP,
    Yeah, I couldn’t understand the increased optimism based on that interview. There was very little positive in it, more bluster and vague pronouncements that were open to wild interpretation. People kept saying he could now be held to account as he said it live on TV. I honestly don’t see what he said that can be held too account. He said nothing.

    He did take the blame for everything, then said that he doesn’t make any of the football decisions, which surely contradicts him being the main person at fault. If Charnley is in charge of football decisions, then why persevere with him after this season and last summer? That contracts the talk of kicking on.

    Continuing investment, punch above our weight (bear in mind our weight according to the club is well below Swans, Saints etc – so above our weight is likely to mean 10th and higher), best pound for pound. None of them indicate a change in strategy.

  • 11 beermonkey // Jun 2, 2015 at 8:50 AM

    prime

    the only thing you can actually take from the interview is we are not for sale at any price

    and I read that to mean, you lot can campaign scream and shout I aint going anywhere

  • 12 Lindisfarne // Jun 2, 2015 at 8:50 AM

    There aee a few vacancies in Italy opening up for a pprogressive Latin speaking mGead Coach. Has Carver been taking foreign language lessons?

  • 13 hibbit // Jun 2, 2015 at 8:50 AM

    its total wishful thinking there was no commitment by ashley only only a well rehearsed PR stunt to calm the masses

  • 14 sparky55 // Jun 2, 2015 at 8:51 AM

    FIREBUG…you’re right mate…the Ashley PR machine is in full swing here…we’re being led a merry dance like we were in the Jan window…the deal has already been done…Wally has got the job and our nett spend will be next to nowt.

    The only thing that’s bang on the money is that we won’t be getting rid of Ashley any time soon…but because he’s come out and said that may mean he’s negotiating to sell it as we speak and is holding out for a better price…who knows with this crack head!

  • 15 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 2, 2015 at 8:52 AM

    Sparky,
    What would Chelsea want Sissoko for?? He isn’t even fit to lace the boots of most of Chelsea’s midfield. He claims Mourinho is tracking him, if he is so keen for Mourinho to find him then maybe he shouldn’t have stayed in hiding for most of the season.

    I’d fly back, pack his bags and give him a piggy back to London if Chelsea seriously didn’t want this deluded, gutless and lazy fool.

  • 16 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 2, 2015 at 8:54 AM

    Firebug,
    I’m not sure why anybody would commit to a new season ticket on the basis of a few rumours in the papers. The deadline was extended, why not just wait it out until there is an firm appointment. There will be plenty of season tickets available if people don’t renew so there shouldn’t be any need to rush.

  • 17 sparky55 // Jun 2, 2015 at 8:55 AM

    Lilo

    I’m not saying he will…I’m saying it’s the only way we’d get Bamford which basically means he ain’t coming and Sissoko ain’t going to chelsea either.

    Only used that because of the laffable “Chelsea are watching me” headlines

  • 18 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 2, 2015 at 9:00 AM

    Sparky,
    We only want Bamford on loan, which is embarrassing in itself. Ambition?

  • 19 firebug666 // Jun 2, 2015 at 9:02 AM

    Lil

    You using intelligence in your argument, I’m talking about the club that is sadly lacking in that department.

    Money first and foremost, lies and BS to obtain it.

    Six months of waiting, and we end up with SM if that’s the end (as expected) result.

    I will never believe anything this club has to say.

  • 20 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 2, 2015 at 9:05 AM

    LGF,
    Not a fan of Laudrup.

    On Vieira though, it isn’t the fact it is him that excites me – although the more I have read on him the last few days the better I feel about his appointment – it is the fact it represents a huge change of attitude by the club. Vieira represents a whole new thinking and the potential that Ashley maybe has seen the light in terms of running a forward moving and progressive football club on the field, as well as off it.

    McClaren to me represents maintaining the status quo, while he isn’t a bad coach, it is the fact he represents the club not moving forward and just aiming at security in the Prem, rather than pushing on.

    You could replace those names with others if you like, but it would be someone who falls into the first category that would alway get my vote, rather than the second. Some managers wouldn’t fall into either, and would just be a bad move, I put Laudrup outside of the 2 categories above as a bad move.

  • 21 optimistic prime // Jun 2, 2015 at 9:05 AM

    Lg/Beer

    Totally agree, all I got from his interview is IM STAYING.

    I heard it as waffle.
    It’s his fault but he doesn’t make the decisions, why hasn’t he replaced Charnley then?
    Why on earth did Charnley loan 5 to Rangers if Ashley has no involvement in football matters?

    Ashley has made various false promises through different mouth pieces over the years, coming out and speaking himself threw everyone. Doesn’t matter he NEVER promised anything the fact he spoke was enough for some.

    I may be called optimistic but I’m not a fool, I’m prepared to be proved wrong but I’m also prepared for more of the last 8years.

    Ashley out

  • 22 will die for the toon army // Jun 2, 2015 at 9:06 AM

    I dont remember Keagan Kinnear and Pardew being linked to us before they came it was jst a surprise. Am not falling for this sh&t until it happens.

    NUFC is too secretive.

  • 23 will die for the toon army // Jun 2, 2015 at 9:14 AM

    I remember every one ok with Mclaren wen he was doing well at Derby then after he doesnt do well. He is sh&t. I bet everyone here wld b happy having him in January.

    PV doesnt guarantee success neither does Landrup nor Karanka nor Clement. All those are risks jst show change and make fans happy.

    Thats wat Shearer and KK brought us Happiness with no success.

  • 24 will die for the toon army // Jun 2, 2015 at 9:18 AM

    Allan Pardew wasnt a bad Coach but was against the system fron day one but did hang on his job waiting for an opportunity. If we get e right coach who can work with the system. I have been impressed with all the signings made by Carr and all the other Mds. We jst lack e righthead coach

  • 25 Average_Contents // Jun 2, 2015 at 9:21 AM

    OP/LIL

    I too don’t see how the obviously staged interview with the slug changes anything. None committal and basically regurgitating the same guff as penfold.

    A prime example being people seem to think because he mentioned investment and he’ll continue to do so, that he’s going to invest.

    What exactly is he going to invest?

    Not his own money because he’s already told us as much in 2009 which has been amply reinforced by pardew every transfer window since (wipe our own nose)

    As far as I’m aware he’s invested nothing since the loan when we got relegated. All the monies we’ve used since have been generated solely by the club.

    Where’s this continued investment he’s been making? Does he mean emotionally? That must be it becomes it certainly isn’t cash.

    “Pound for pound” and “punching above are weight” are two more examples that fcukall is going to change.

    We’ve been reduced to small club status and been managed to the point that fans want top 10 and seem thankful for it. Anything else is a bonus.

    We’ve well and truly been put in our place by the odious fat twat.

  • 26 Lee Dodd // Jun 2, 2015 at 9:28 AM

    Odds on is We Get McClaren .. if we get Viera then its Dreamworld for a Change but I Just cant see it !!! BUT I would Love it Just Love it if we Got Viera as he wont take any Crap out of the Players and He has Stacks of Respect … BUt we have to spend at least £50 million this summer …

  • 27 sickandtired // Jun 2, 2015 at 9:36 AM

    @Will Die – KK brought no success? Are you on happy baccy? The Club was on the verge of dropping into the old 3rd Division FFS!
    He took us from there to CL football in 2 seasons with some of the most memorable football we are likely to ever see. Get a grip, man.
    Using Ashley’s measure of success (CL qualification) this Club was stellar in comparison to this fat oiks 8 years of drudgery and failure.




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