Here’s Something Good About Steve McClaren


Steve McClaren was fired from the England manager job in late 2007, when England failed to qualify for the 2008 Euros and that was the first time England  in 24 years  had not qualified for the European Championships, and it brought to an end the shortest stint of any England manager – just 18 games in 16 months. Kevin Keegan’s stint as England manager was only three months longer than that – 18 games with seven won, seven drawn and four lost.

Steve won 9 games, drew four and lost five as the England manager.

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McClaren’s last game in charge at Derby – a 3-0 home defeat by Reading

Since  that difficult experience for the 53 year-old he has managed at four clubs – FC Twente (twice), Wolfsburg, Nottingham Forest and Derby County with his most successful spells being at FC Twente,  and he was fired from the last three positions and lasted only a matter of months at Forest before he resigned in 2011.

It seems Steve is now almost certain to get the Newcastle job, with the Englishman 1/6 odds on with SkyBet and John Carver still second favorite at 6/1 – why?

One good things we hear about Steve  is from the players he’s coached and two of them are Michael Owen and Sunderland’s’ Jermaine Defoe.

This is what Michael Owen said about the link to Steve McClaren back in late April on BT Sports”

“It doesn’t look like John Carver will get the job on a permanent basis.” “I think if Derby don’t go up into the Premier League, then Steve McClaren could be a good candidate for that job…

“He is an exceptional coach. I have worked with a lot of good coaches in my time, and he is right up there.”

And today Jermain Defoe has said this about McClaren – who he trained with as part of the England side:

“He’s someone I played under for England. He’s a good coach and I always enjoyed training with him.” “He’s a good manager with good experience especially at this level.”

Certainly the players seem to like the way he coaches.

While we still don’t understand why Newcastle couldn’t have gone after some top coaches who are available – we have to assume they would not fit in with the rigid way in which the club is controlled by Lee Charnley and Graham Carr.

At Newcastle the coach is not as powerful as those two – and Patrick Vieira seems to have quickly decided the structure at Newcastle was not for him and we wonder how long that phone call last with Lee Charnley – 23 seconds maybe?

It’s almost as though Charnley and Carr want to keep control of the club over the head coach – at least that’s what it’s looking like from the outside.

We hope that Newcastle bring in some good players this summer, and it will be very important that McClaren gets off to a very good start in the league – which he didn’t do at Forest four years ago and lasted just 13 (unlucky for some) games.

Fans are underwhelmed by what Newcastle seem to be doing since the Mike Ashley interview and we saved ourselves 10 day ago – and there will be little patience for another poor start to the season like we had last year.

The other thing we should quickly point out is that Steve is a good man and will much better at representing Newcastle to the press than John Carver was – so we suppose that’s another plus for McClaren,

But Steve shows signs that he’s been under pressure a lot in his previous managerial posts (see the photo above as an example), and it will not get any easier at Newcastle.

If Steve is appointed, we’ll be very disappointed that the club didn’t take their chance and appoint a proven good coach like David Moyes, Remi Garde or Michael Laudrup – although our favorite was Patrick Vieira who could have really got the fans behind the club again.

Maybe Charnley and Carr know something the fans don’t, but given our very mediocre performance over the last eight seasons when we finished in the top ten only twice, we doubt that.

Here’s our record under Ashley, and notice we have beaten 50 points in the Premier League only once in the last eight seasons, and fought against relegation three times and been relegated once.

SeasonPointsPlace
2007-20084312
2008-20093418 - relegated
2009-2010102 *1 - promoted
2010-20114612
2011-2012655
2012-20134116
2013-20144910
2014-20153915
2015-20163718 - relegated

It’s not the appointment we wanted to see and the fans need to hear from Lee Charnley soon about what’s happened this year – he needs to meet soon with the Fans Forum.

Lee needs to explain his actions since the end of last year when he weakened the Newcastle squad, and what is in Steve McClaren’s record that can make make him successful at Newcastle?

Those would be two good questions to kick things off with at the meeting – and fans will be very interested to hear what the Managing Director has to say.

Comments welcome.



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192 comments so far

  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jun 3, 2015 at 6:25 PM

    Comment #1

    As much as I hate the thought of Schteve being the hc he must need his head checking if he accepts JC as his assistant

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  • Pokat

    Jun 3, 2015 at 6:25 PM

    Comment #2

    I thought it was that he had all his own teeth and could drive a tractor. wrong again.

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  • Spreadthetoon

    Jun 3, 2015 at 6:26 PM

    Comment #3

    Haven’t read the article coz I wanted to finish the headline……cos he turned down the job?!right…

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  • armchair fan

    Jun 3, 2015 at 6:27 PM

    Comment #4

    Bet he can’t wait to get up North, whip out ye olde umbrella for the shower of sh*te we’re about to be served up with

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  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    Jun 3, 2015 at 6:27 PM

    Comment #5

    Armchair

    Have a tablet, fella. I was only having a bit of fun!

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  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    Jun 3, 2015 at 6:29 PM

    Comment #6

    I mean, ffs,if we cant laugh at ourselves in this current predicament, what can we do?

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  • John Tudor

    Jun 3, 2015 at 6:29 PM

    Comment #7

    not long till he quits over health issues then

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  • armchair fan

    Jun 3, 2015 at 6:29 PM

    Comment #8

    YouCouldntMakeItUp

    I wasn’t getting worked up, just banter an all.

    I guess it’s hard to come off in a jokey manner through text

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jun 3, 2015 at 6:35 PM

    Comment #9

    someone should show SM this blog and all the negative polls and the pillock won’t come

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  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    Jun 3, 2015 at 6:37 PM

    Comment #10

    Armchair

    Aye, true enough. No worries mate.

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  • Belfast

    Jun 3, 2015 at 6:47 PM

    Comment #11

    Well I think it’s safe too say his coaching staff would be an improvement on the current coaching staff, especially the goalkeeping coach. Just can’t see Ashley binning the current lot though.

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  • croftus5678

    Jun 3, 2015 at 6:48 PM

    Comment #12

    oh dear……looks like we got ourselves a right catch here doesnt it ;-(

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Jun 3, 2015 at 6:54 PM

    Comment #13

    I have a funny feeling Mclaren is going to turn us down at the last minute and join the Mackems or West Ham

    I just cant see him willing to work with our coaching staff without being able to bring anyone in

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  • Toonmania

    Jun 3, 2015 at 7:01 PM

    Comment #14

    Don’t like Defoe’s words, he says he’s a good coach at “this” level this being their level “the scum” we are far superior to them and a cut above I mean we was even big enough to gift them 6 points to enable them to stay up without us they would have been relegated.

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  • beermonkey

    Jun 3, 2015 at 7:07 PM

    Comment #15

    lcbp

    I think they have had McLaren signed up for ages and are desperately trying to get a decent players signed then announce McLaren the player is to soften the blow he will also say he only came cos of the dream McLaren sold him

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  • check the toastie

    Jun 3, 2015 at 7:09 PM

    Comment #16

    I will take shteve In a heartbeat if it means ridding the club of the leftovers of Pardews awfully shite reign.

    If Carver goes, will welcome Maclaren nee bother. At least the club have made some attempt in making a positive change. Although he doesn’t make the juices flow he is experienced and may just work. Actually less of a risk than Garde or Veira, but not as sexy I suppose.

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Jun 3, 2015 at 7:19 PM

    Comment #17

    @beermonkey

    Yeah thats what I originally thought 3 or 4 players in the same week with Mclaren to show we mean business

    Theres also the train of thought Charnley and Carr are running about daft not being able to get anyone in and totally shitting it that they can only offer it to Carver as no one else wants it ….

    Either of the 2 scenarios is very possible until we get an official announcement with signings through the door I am very worried

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  • ganiyu

    Jun 3, 2015 at 7:22 PM

    Comment #18

    what is in Steve McClaren’s record that can make make him successful at Newcastle?

    his most successful spells being at FC Twente. He can replicate that performance at nufc next season.

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  • Pokat

    Jun 3, 2015 at 7:22 PM

    Comment #19

    it’s gonna take Rentokil to get rid of the incumbents. They’re dug in like frickin ticks this bunch of cone kicking amateurs.

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  • Pokat

    Jun 3, 2015 at 7:24 PM

    Comment #20

    And the well get stevie Mac and it’ll be like an upgrade ha ha we are being softened up like a dog for a Chinese food festival. Sorry that was a bit foodist.

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  • Pokat

    Jun 3, 2015 at 7:26 PM

    Comment #21

    But hey listen mind I’m prepared if he comes here to give the lad a chance we’ll all look like typical norvern buffoons if we’re knocking on champions league door next year won’t we?

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jun 3, 2015 at 7:27 PM

    Comment #22

    @beermonkey
    That makes sense just hope the players are good enough to soften the blow

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  • dave 1961

    Jun 3, 2015 at 7:27 PM

    Comment #23

    Here’s something dad about McClaren notice the slide (downward).
    1995–1999 Derby County (assistant)
    1999–2001 Manchester United (assistant)
    2000–2002 England (assistant)
    2001–2006 Middlesbrough
    2004–2006 England (assistant)
    2006–2007 England
    2008–2010 FC Twente
    2010–2011 VfL Wolfsburg
    2011 Nottingham Forest
    2012–2013 FC Twente
    2013 Queens Park Rangers (coach)
    2013–2015 Derby County

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  • dave 1961

    Jun 3, 2015 at 7:27 PM

    Comment #24

    or Bad even

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  • Pokat

    Jun 3, 2015 at 7:29 PM

    Comment #25

    He is a bit of a dad though Dave. Hey you’re not a Dad-ist as well are you Dave?

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  • Pokat

    Jun 3, 2015 at 7:31 PM

    Comment #26

    Just think nufc could be tagged onto that list as the final nail in his career coffin. Or his glorious triumph! No no thats right nail it is.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jun 3, 2015 at 7:31 PM

    Comment #27

    It’s not often you hear a player talk bad about a coach unless they have had a spat!

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  • Pokat

    Jun 3, 2015 at 7:32 PM

    Comment #28

    Cmon everyone I’m doing the work here you’ll have Welshgeordie on if you’re not careful.

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  • Average_Contents

    Jun 3, 2015 at 7:32 PM

    Comment #29

    Is it just me or have I missed the something good section?

    Head scratcher of epic proportions.

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  • Pokat

    Jun 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM

    Comment #30

    No average it’s easily missed, if you notice in the picture he has a matching sweater and terylene slacks. That has to count for something.

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  • Pokat

    Jun 3, 2015 at 7:34 PM

    Comment #31

    Mind he always looks like he’s on the sauce and just come out of the tax office

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jun 3, 2015 at 7:35 PM

    Comment #32

    is the something good the SM isn’t JC??

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  • Pokat

    Jun 3, 2015 at 7:37 PM

    Comment #33

    Toon from leeds that’s actually the title of the motivational poster in Lees office.

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jun 3, 2015 at 7:39 PM

    Comment #34

    EA sports have announced that FIFA 16 will have the Women’s international teams in tge game for the first time!

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  • welshgeordie9

    Jun 3, 2015 at 7:40 PM

    Comment #35

    In mcclaren we trust, i back him.

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jun 3, 2015 at 7:41 PM

    Comment #36

    PMSL pokat

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  • Barton

    Jun 3, 2015 at 7:41 PM

    Comment #37

    As Steve Gibson said about McClaren,”if he said the grass was green i would need to go outside and check” i think that says it all,saying that he will fit right in with Tubbs & Penfold.

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jun 3, 2015 at 7:42 PM

    Comment #38

    I wouldn’t trust Schteve McClaren as far as I could throw him

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  • beermonkey

    Jun 3, 2015 at 7:48 PM

    Comment #39

    lcbp

    I think there struggling to get players onboard
    soon they will be forced to offer big wages for mediocre players
    there isn’t anything appealing to come and play for us at the moment
    and McLaren has just been sacked by a championship club given that we have a no cups policy 2 out of 3 seasons in relegation battles and form and why as a player would you want to come here

    I think this is why Ashley came out with his I wanna win something speech there are some good free’s available and I am sure we have been talking to some of them I bet the word coming from the agents is no sorry no cup comps and mid table not what my player is after

    it has been proved clubs outside the top 5 can win cups its a good lure

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  • YouCouldn'tMakeItUp

    Jun 3, 2015 at 7:50 PM

    Comment #40

    I find a bit surprising that Shteves character and trustworthyness is already under fire before he has even signed the dotted line. Is that not a bit extreme at this point? When did we start following the gospel acording to steve gibson? Whatever view people have on shteves record, surely he deserves a chance? Certainly ahead of carver, pardew and the likes of pulis and co who was linked in january. No wonder other fans think geordies have become delusional.

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