Former Star Explains Why Top Managers Shunned Newcastle


If a person is to be judged on his results in any job, then it’s important to allow them to do the job their way – and they can then either sink or swim on the results they get.

So as a football manager, if you don’t get a say on who comes into the club during the transfer windows,  you are really not in full control of the squad – and that’s one reason a lot of top managers wouldn’t touch the Newcastle job this year – they wanted more control than the Tyneside club was willing to give them.

Rob Lee

Rob Lee – while at Newcastle United

Former Newcastle midfield star Rob Lee thinks that’s exactly the reason not one top manager seems to have been interested in the Newcastle head coach position.

And when Newcastle briefly approached a person who looked to be a good candidate – like Patrick Vieira for instance – he quickly became disinterested when told the club would continue running the club with Lee Charnley, Chief Scout Graham Carr and the head coach running the show –  with Graham Carr having the major say on transfers into the club.

Rob Lee was speaking at the Gary Speed Memorial Day at Ramside Hall:

“Because of the policy of the club, if somebody else is bringing in the players, then big name managers will not accept that. Big name managers know players and will want to bring players with them.”

“Everyone wants to keep telling me it works on the continent. But if they are top, top managers then they will have a say. Jose Mourinho would not accept not having a say. At the end of the day a manager will get the blame if the results aren’t right, so you would want a say.”

“You can only make a team so much better. We need somebody who can attract players to this club. We are a club that almost got relegated. We need nine or ten players to be competitive in the Premier League.”

It is the way clubs on the continent work where the coach is given the group of players and his sole job is to get the very best out of what he’s got available – which is really the definition of what a coach’s job is.

And as far as Jose Mourinho is concerned he didn’t always have a say on who come into the club and owner Roman Abramovich was keen on bringing in Ukrainian striker Andriy Shevchenko, who turned out to be a big flop.

We also don’t know if Jose had much say on players coming into the club while he was at Real Madrid.

Unless something dramatic happens in the next few days, it looks like Steve McClaren will become the head coach at Newcastle with John Carver again the assistant manager – even after John’s woeful performance as the interim head coach this year almost got us relegated.

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183 comments so far

  • WWSBRD

    Jun 4, 2015 at 6:04 PM

    Comment #1

    Top managers? Probably because we didn’t approach any had more to do with it

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  • Pokat

    Jun 4, 2015 at 6:06 PM

    Comment #2

    And so Rob da Bank sheds light on the secret difference between a manager ( Boss, Gaffer etc) and Head Coach ( Mug, Stooge,Patsy, Whipping Boy you get the idea) .

    Now it’s plain for all to see why Pardew could stay as long as he liked, it was not his fault. Cue Carver.

    What then, will our very own McLaren P2 ( Pardew no. 2) be? I’m guessing if Carver etc are staying then Stevie will be column b.

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  • Mint

    Jun 4, 2015 at 6:13 PM

    Comment #3

    This is actually the conversation that TOOK place on Monday:

    Charnley: “MY NAMES TYRONE, … ahh screw it. Your hired.
    Steve: “I know”

    At least we wont get relegated

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  • firebug666

    Jun 4, 2015 at 6:15 PM

    Comment #4

    Reading over the past week we can only draw one conclusion.

    Nothing has changed. Nothing will ever change at this club while Ashley is the custodian. Profits will always come before ambition.

    McClaren is only a small step up from Carver so my guess is we will be lucky to finish top ten, fortunate to finish above 14th, expected to suffer more of the same from last season.

    Makems will get their usual six points, especially as they have their big Dick back.

    Ahh well onwards and ….err….. well onwards anyway.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jun 4, 2015 at 6:16 PM

    Comment #5

    Pokat (from previous thread)…Eh? Longer queue for what mate?

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  • blew

    Jun 4, 2015 at 6:21 PM

    Comment #6

    We don’t have a leader on the pitch,
    a decent header of the ball,
    and lacking in pace.
    Perhaps SM could persuade Carr these
    attributes are necessary, as he hasn’t
    addressed these problems to date.

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  • WWSBRD

    Jun 4, 2015 at 6:22 PM

    Comment #7

    Ibiza
    From previous
    Aye mate ur right I am falling for what I complain at others for doing, believing everything I read but still there will be a kick off if he signs for Palace haha

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jun 4, 2015 at 6:25 PM

    Comment #8

    Yo…It happens to the best of us, especially this time of year.

    Just read Paul Clements Derby speech. I’m glad we weren’t in for him….

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11696/9875157/paul-clement-says-he-will-bring-his-own-style-to-derby

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jun 4, 2015 at 6:26 PM

    Comment #9
  • Ibizatoon

    Jun 4, 2015 at 6:27 PM

    Comment #10

    TFL…What was that Mag thing you mentioned before? Do you have a link?

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jun 4, 2015 at 6:29 PM

    Comment #11

    Ibiza it wasn’t the mag it was nufcblog.com

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  • Pokat

    Jun 4, 2015 at 6:29 PM

    Comment #12

    Ibizatoon ah you easily forget your own questions when the answer comes along ha ha you asked if cabaye wasn’t one of those complaining about El Pardo’s tactical nous

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  • Pokat

    Jun 4, 2015 at 6:29 PM

    Comment #13

    What’s nufcblog.com? Have you got a link?

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jun 4, 2015 at 6:30 PM

    Comment #14

    nufcblog.co.uk even

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  • Pokat

    Jun 4, 2015 at 6:30 PM

    Comment #15

    There must be something wrong I don’t seem to have a link lol

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  • WWSBRD

    Jun 4, 2015 at 6:31 PM

    Comment #17

    Ibiza
    Haha true true I dont see it happening surely Liverpool will be in for him after??

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  • Ron Knee

    Jun 4, 2015 at 6:35 PM

    Comment #18

    According to nufcblog above, we’re already 11th. Not bad!

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jun 4, 2015 at 6:36 PM

    Comment #19

    Pokat…Get a link mate, ffs.

    I see – The queue of players who weren’t happy with Pardew! 🙂

    I’ll try and keep up now.

    TFL…Well don’t say Mag then 🙂 Will have a read now. .co.uk are just bitter as they can’t keep up with the comments 😉

    Let’s get a blog war started! Yes, that’s what we need. Or was it unity? Nah.

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  • WWSBRD

    Jun 4, 2015 at 6:37 PM

    Comment #20

    TFL
    Tbf they arent wrong

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jun 4, 2015 at 6:38 PM

    Comment #21

    Ibiza I got missed up sorry

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jun 4, 2015 at 6:38 PM

    Comment #22

    ffs mixed up

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jun 4, 2015 at 6:43 PM

    Comment #23

    TFL…You’re running out of chances mate 🙂 Thanks for shaaring…just about to have a read.

    Yo…Liverpool in for Cabaye?

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jun 4, 2015 at 6:45 PM

    Comment #24

    or just sharing – Either is fine with me 🙂

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  • banjax

    Jun 4, 2015 at 6:45 PM

    Comment #25

    McClaren will cost nowt. He’s available. He does as he’s told. Will accept players into the club that aren’t his choice. Carver and the remnants of the staff will stay put. So what has changed Big Mike ? Maybe when you see how season tickets go you will think differently. McClaren – no no no !

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jun 4, 2015 at 6:49 PM

    Comment #26
  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jun 4, 2015 at 6:50 PM

    Comment #27

    Ibiza I like sharing, I like to inform people 🙂

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jun 4, 2015 at 6:57 PM

    Comment #28

    Belfast…You best have a wash before posting on here next! 🙂

    TFL…Not sure why, but I just got an image of Garth from Waynes World.

    “I like to play”.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jun 4, 2015 at 7:00 PM

    Comment #29

    As for the .co.uk article – Hmmm…I would say it’s similar to posters who come on here to whinge about people whinging.

    What was the point in it? Was it just to refresh their last thread from last month?

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  • GeordieTwo

    Jun 4, 2015 at 7:02 PM

    Comment #31

    I see the papers are just full of stories about all the top notch players we’re bringing in. And did Rob Lee really figure that out all by himself? Yes Rob, we know nobody decent will come to us to be a head coach mate. Sunderland get Advocaat back and we get McLaren. Typical that is. Harrumph.

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  • Belfast

    Jun 4, 2015 at 7:03 PM

    Comment #32

    *scrubs myself* 🙂

    Needs must Ibiza We where under attack.

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  • GeordieTwo

    Jun 4, 2015 at 7:03 PM

    Comment #33

    The answer to that one is no TFL mate. Cabaye is not stupid enough to come back to us. He’s seen the club from inside and out. It’s not a pretty picture.

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  • BandB

    Jun 4, 2015 at 7:04 PM

    Comment #34

    Ibiza

    Oh the irony of it.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jun 4, 2015 at 7:05 PM

    Comment #35

    TFL…It’s almost like Rob in Leeds reads this blog sometimes.

    Come on Rob – out you come. We wont bite.

    If only I had a smiley that showed some teeth 🙂

    I got up to “if Newcastle played their cards right.” Then thought, is there much point in keeping reading? 🙂

    That quote could make a good book title for a review of Ashleys tenure at NUFC.

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  • GeordieTwo

    Jun 4, 2015 at 7:06 PM

    Comment #36

    And the horror BandB mate. Oh the horror! It’s the heart of darkness remaining in Newcastle. Aaaahhhhhh!

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jun 4, 2015 at 7:07 PM

    Comment #37

    fair point Ibiza

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jun 4, 2015 at 7:08 PM

    Comment #38

    Belfast…I don’t think the scrub alone will do it.

    Any takers? The blog Legend needs a serious detailing? Minimum requirement is a good bleaching, although I would imagine something stronger would be needed.

    BandB…Indeed.

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  • JamesToon

    Jun 4, 2015 at 7:08 PM

    Comment #39
  • jayphoto

    Jun 4, 2015 at 7:09 PM

    Comment #40

    They have to keep Carver around… Hes there to remind us what we get if we get on mclarens back too much

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