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John Carver To Act As Adviser To McClaren

8:49 am, Thursday, June 4th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 45 Comments

Steve McClaren is almost certain to be named the new head coach at Newcastle next week when he returns from his summer vacation, and that will signal no change to the coaching staff, with John Carver probably remaining as assistant manager, with the rest of the coaching staff of Steve Stone, Andy Woodman, Peter Beardsley and Dave Watson remaining at the club.

john carver scumpled face

John Carver has done himself no favors this year

There are some rumors that Andy Woodman may john Alan Pardew at Crystal Palace, and the out-of-work Lee Clark could be brought back into the coaching staff – certainly Lee’s a lot better and more experienced than John Carver.

And if Andy Woodman leaves the club, it’s expected that goalkeeping coach Eric Steel would be brought in and he’s been at Derby County with McClaren.

There will be significant money available to McClaren to strengthen the squad, but the targets are already identified,  although agents are asking who will be the new manager, before they are interested in their players making any moves to Newcastle.

And John Carver, who has been working with Lee Charnley and Graham Carr this year, and who scared the living daylights out of Newcastle fan when he kept hinting he could get the head coach position job full time – will act as an initial adviser to Steve.

John will get McClaren up to speed quickly with the players in the squad, and also bring him up to date with  who the transfer targets  are this summer.

So while at most clubs John Carver would be under the threat of being fired for his poor performance this year, at Newcastle with the way Charnley makes his decisions (with far too much sentiment), it would not be too surprising if John gets a pay rise to stay at the club and step back down to being assistant manager.

That would be consistent with the bizarre way Lee Charnley has run the club over the last six months, when Newcastle almost got themselves relegated.

And Lee Clark could have been a decent choice as the new assistant manager at Newcastle, and Carver could have disappeared into a scouting role under Graham Carr, or something like that, after his coaching abilities have been brought into serious question this year.

Comments welcome.

Tags: Coaching · Head coach · Management · Newcastle News · Premier League · Transfer News and Rumours

45 responses so far ↓

  • 1 spitfire_ // Jun 4, 2015 at 8:51 AM

    Adviser… because he was such a hit as a manager…

  • 2 optimistic prime // Jun 4, 2015 at 8:55 AM

    Whoopsie doo

  • 3 Jail for Ashley // Jun 4, 2015 at 8:55 AM

    That is a fabricated and totally unnecessary headline.

  • 4 jayphoto // Jun 4, 2015 at 8:56 AM

    im guessing this article has been posted to create outrage but reading it, I have no problem with Carver advising McLaren on things at the club. He won’t be advising him on tactics, preparation or teamtalks which is where JC falls down.
    Carver, for all his faults will know which players let him down. He obviously has zero time for Williamson or Gouffran and i’d argue he doesn’t rate obertan or ameobi either. Despite what he says in the media, he’ll know damn well which players hardly turned up in training etc.
    Carvers a good coach, its been said by enough in the know for me to believe its true. He is not any kind of manager though and I include assistant manager in that. I don’t think Mclaren will give him any room for freedom of thought and he’ll be told exactly what to do from day 1.
    To be honest i’m shocked he hasn’t walked. Personally feel his position is untenable and the only way you could warrant him staying on is if you have about 10 outgoings and 10 incomings

  • 5 reilly // Jun 4, 2015 at 8:57 AM

    pointless brining in a new manager and him having to work with current coaching staff.

  • 6 jayphoto // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:00 AM

    Am I right in reading somewhere that based on the date of being appointed Newcastle manager, only Bobby Robson and Kenny Dalglish have had more managerial success in winning things than Steve Mclaren in our entire history??
    Obviously nufc managers have won stuff at and after nufc but he will be our 3rd most decorated appointment ever?

  • 7 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:05 AM

    Someone on here posted something like that last night, not sure if they said in our entire history or Prem history. Can’t remember who, and have no idea how true that is. I’d argue Souness must have had more success at Rangers, Liverpool, Galatasary, Southampton, Torino, Benfica and Blackburn before joining us.

  • 8 Jail for Ashley // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:05 AM

    Carver did not even know that Sameobi could take a corner. The man is literally as thick as pigs shite.

  • 9 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:06 AM

    Souness did. 3 league titles and 8 cup wins before joining us.

  • 10 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:08 AM

    Big Sam had won a league title, a cup and several promotions as well which is a better record than a league title and a cup.

  • 11 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:09 AM

    Sorry, Big Sam was only runner up, mis read that. Runner up to McClaren in the cup as well.

  • 12 jayphoto // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:12 AM

    Just another thought, but when was the last time we signed a player that was an out n out specialist in 1 position?? To my mind it must be Papiss Cisse?
    Last few signings-
    Perez – plays ST, AM, LW, RW
    Janmaat – Started his career as a DM. Plays right mid and right back at feyenoord. Can cover centreback.
    Riviere – Played LW at St Ettiene. AM at Monaco and ST at NUFC.
    De Jong – can play CM, AM and ST. (played all at ajax)
    Colback – Played more games as a full back at sunderland than he did at CM. Also played LM.
    Cabella – I’m still not entirely sure what position he plays….
    Even back to signing sissoko (plays DM at tolouse, AM for nufc and RM for france), Gouffran (played everywhere for NUFC), Yanga-Mbiwa – played all defensive positions and DM for montpellier at some stage. Anita – played as many games at full back as midfield for ajax.
    Can’t help wondering if Carrs transfer brief has to include players who play a variety of positions to cover for the fact that we have such a small squad of fit for purpose professionals?
    In my mind we really need specialist players that only play in one position to the best of that position

  • 13 beermonkey // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:12 AM


    never have a few words summed up how lazy and complacent our coaching staff are
    who knew he could take corners I didn’t

    the kids been with us all his career and we wonder why our players regress

  • 14 optimistic prime // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:14 AM

    Mclaren is as bad as Pardew, the Boro fans wanted rid of him the whole time he was there for dire football.

    They used to call him all sorts and most couldn’t beleive he’d even got a chance at England, they’re actually laughing that we’re linked with him.

    I bet we also only sign a handful of players, a cpl kids a loan and two for the first team.

    We’ll keep Colo and Willo!!

  • 15 WestOzMag // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:15 AM

    HAHAHA Joke Carver to advise. Enjoy another of misery fans. F’n disgrace this lot!!

  • 16 ashleysmate // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:16 AM

    This poor club just bounces from one joke to another. .we are a laughing stock. ….what a shame….

  • 17 jayphoto // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:17 AM

    souness as an out n out manager never won a league title anywhere but he did win the league as player manager at Rangers 3 times yea. still surprising we’ve always hired less than successful managers

  • 18 WestOzMag // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:17 AM


  • 19 kakaobi // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:18 AM

    Better hope MacClaren does well then don’t want to see carver as manager ever again

  • 20 Ibizatoon // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:19 AM

    JC “Shteve mate, what I did is tell them that I knew Sir Bobby and was one of them. I loved it. They loved it. They love me. I’m one of them you know? All ya need to do is say you know me and look forward to working with me and they’ll accept ya. Me. Me. Me. Did I mention I knew Sir Bobby, Shteve?”

  • 21 TheToonKing // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:19 AM

    WHY ?

    I don’t mind giving McLaren a shot,but why keep these looser dinosaurs around ? they are not good enough.

    I respected Carver before his tenure, but now I almost hate him. He almost took us down and who knows if we would have ever come back.

    Banish them all.

  • 22 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:20 AM

    His style has supposedly changed though from 10 years ago. Anyway, what do bork fans know, they had never had it better, highest Prem position, Cup win, UEFA Cup final.

    His replacement took them down, and they have not been back since.

    Tongue slightly in cheek, I know that many were getting disillusioned with him before England took him, but I bet they would happily trade everything since to be back in the same position McClaren had them in.

  • 23 Rotonda heights // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:20 AM

    Who’s the very last man you would want advice from in football. Only at NUFC would a serial failure on the slide become manager and be subjected to advice from someone who won one game in 11 and that against a team already on their hols!!!! Shambolic.

  • 24 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:21 AM

    Player manager is still the manager mate. Just means he has additional responsibilities as well.

  • 25 Toon Tang // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:22 AM


    The title of this story has honestly given me the biggest belly laugh of the year, I’m not exaggerating. I’m literally sat here crying into my nugget pillows.

    Best title of the year so far Ed. Cheers for that one brother.

  • 26 Small World // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:24 AM


    It was me who mentioned Steve Mc record of management in comparison to previous managers. From what you say about Souness he maybe comes 4th. I was also taking into account him having coached Man U to 3 titles ,his proposed role with is head coach. The upshot of my post was that we have rarely. In our history gone out and got a manager who had a real track record as a manager. I wouldn’t knock him because of his track record, just as I wouldn’t have chased away the lines of Viera because of him being a relative rookie. We once took a punt on a certain Kevin Keegan as an untested manager.

    Viera wasn’t rejected because of inexperience and we can all guess why McClaren has got the gig. I’ll give him time and see how it pans out

  • 27 hibbit // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:27 AM

    the big concession is Mc is allowed to bring 2 coaches of his own

  • 28 Rotonda heights // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:27 AM


    My abiding memory of Shteve was when england played hoofball to crouch for 90 mins at home to Croatia. Absolutely dire.

    Dalglish, souness, allardyce, pardew…jeez haven’t we suffered enough.

    Viera offered hope in going in a totally new direction but we might have known that was going to be very short lived.

    KK was right, nothing good will ever happen with Ashley here. The sad thing is Ash probably, like Charnley, doesn’t even realise that Viera would have got most people back on board whereas Shteve keeps us exactly where we are.

  • 29 cjtoon // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:29 AM

    I find it really strange and telling how quite a few on here are now painting the once ‘messiah’ of Graham Carr as somewhat of a pantomime villain purely as he is friends With SM. We really are a fickle bunch…

  • 30 Rotonda heights // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:29 AM

    small world

    Meulensteen and Quiroz did exactly the same as McLaren at Manu. Where are they now?

  • 31 Rotonda heights // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:30 AM


    carr has let his friendship with shteve cloud the best interests for the club.

  • 32 jayphoto // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:33 AM

    @Lilongwe – yeah agree. Personally think getting Twente to the title trumps winning the title with Rangers in the late 80’s though. Was a certainty every year.
    Mclaren’s dutch title is the kind of thing films are made about. They beat a seriously superstar Ajax team who won there last 15 games in a row and had a goal difference of +86 with a 10th of the budget and resources. Finished 2nd the season before too against the odds.
    Even when he went back and left they were only 5 points off 1st place.
    Maybe he’d be better off passing up the newcastle job and taking the PSV job, rumour is Cocu is off to the mackems

  • 33 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:34 AM

    Milner to Liverpool. We should of had that laddy back here.

  • 34 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:35 AM

    Small World,
    You were including trophies won while he wasn’t the manager as his trophies? That is an absurd way of looking at it!

    McClaren isn’t great, isn’t terrible, is an upgrade on what we have had for the past 4 years, but represents a continuation of being happy with survival and mid table. It is just more of the same from the club, and I think that, more than the fact it is McClaren, is what is the cause of so much anger at his alleged imminent appointment.

  • 35 optimistic prime // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:36 AM


    I wouldn’t bet on it.
    There was talk of him going back years ago and it wasn’t met with a warm welcome, quite a few kicked off about it.

    I see him as the easy option who’ll do as he says, if he’d come in a few months ago from a strong position I may have thought differentley. Now he’s out of a job it’s Ashley’s way or no way, he isn’t negotiating from a position of strength.

    As much as people assumed Ashley had promised investment and ambition he didn’t, Mclaren is more of the same as will be our transfer window.

    I can see us maybe spending a cpl million more on transfer fees but we’ll still only sign a handful. They’ll be of questionable quality but with promiss and the whole cycle of Ashley’s reign will start again.

    Don’t forget SDJ Aaron’s Darlow Saylor and Lascales, they’ll be like new signings.

    Nothing has or will change with Ashley in control, the sooner he’s out the better.

  • 36 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:39 AM

    It wasn’t the quality of tournament mentioned though, otherwise you could write off a number of Sir Bobby’s trophies. He was at clubs expected to win as well. Same goes for Dogleash.

  • 37 cjtoon // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:40 AM


    I really don’t think A head scout should be involved in appointing a manager in the first place. Even if GC has provided his opinion I’m pretty sure there will have been applicants all of which will have been sifted through to get us down the the mythical shortlist we heard about.

    Its really unfair to put the blame for anything on to a scout – most clubs probably don’t even know who their head scout is, everything is so scrutinised at NUFC. Rightly so given how poor our decision making seems to be. Hugely negative nonetheless

  • 38 Small World // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:41 AM

    Lilongwe, even discounting Man U as coach he has still achieved a more as a manager than most of our previous incumbents prior to appointment. My recollection goes back to Joe Harvey. I’m not a great fan of Steve M but I am willing to be convinced.

  • 39 NezzaNUFC // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:42 AM

    So I guess LC was talking a load of sh!t when he puplicaly stated he wanted a head coach that can develop our current squad and develop youth players?

    SM can’t do both, but the good news for me is that I stated it won’t be long until people come on here and say ‘give him a chance’ and you’s will regret saying this by Christmas!

    Carver as adviser? This must be a joke considering he doesn’t know the players roles.

    And before people say that SM did good at DC I have to ask have you watched every Derby game?

    I work in Derby so most employees are Derby fans and even they state SM wasn’t good enough for them and this is a championship team by the way, they state he had a few good games were they looked world class then suddenly play the worse football ever, they were also stating about always using the wingers to create goals whilst star players like Hughes looked grim.

    A few employees couldn’t stop laughing when he was linked with Newcastle they keep on saying, ‘ he will do well at first then his true colours will come out after about 10 games, good luck and I mean good luck ‘

  • 40 ronjohno // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:48 AM

    It seems to be a certainty that Mclaren has job so speculation by us can be ended. Too much has been written now for it not to be fact.
    Denials would have been made from Mclaren you would think!!!
    I might as well stop moaning and wait for new season before commenting on him.

  • 41 Small World // Jun 4, 2015 at 9:53 AM

    Cjtoon – couldn’t disagree with either if your posts this morning. I think the situation of Carr apparently being involved in recruitment of the next manager has arisen from a couple of factors.

    1 – by some accounts he was often at loggerhead with Pardew which didn’t make for a successful team effort

    2 -we have no chairman, Managing director, Financial Director or Football director and he is the only person with any football experience.

    We are where we are, and MA seems to be happy with the arrangement

  • 42 nufc 11 // Jun 4, 2015 at 10:16 AM

    Ive had enough 15 years of supporting this club shit followed by shit we went from top 2 to bottom 4 but made MA alot of cash. PV signing would have changed things for me but we give a went known reject not fit for purpose in the championship the job advised by JC the self proclaimed best manager in the league what a future we have in store for us. Ive had enough good luck and good bye lads.

  • 43 Sav // Jun 4, 2015 at 10:39 AM

    Its like seeing behind the curtain in the Wizard of Oz. There’s just Carr and Charnley – ‘Football board’ says Ashley – Mmmmwwaaahhaaahaaahhaaa!

  • 44 Sav // Jun 4, 2015 at 10:48 AM

    Completely agree that Clarkie would have been a good case for Assistant Coach.
    But lets face it, you can never have too many ‘yes’ men.

  • 45 lochinvar // Jun 4, 2015 at 5:09 PM

    McLaren and Carver
    The new Dukes Of Haphazard County
    Ashley is Sheriff Boss Hogg
    That must make Chanley Daisy Duke

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