McClaren Already Having Negative Influence On Transfers


Newcastle need to bring in a number of new players this summer, and once Steve McClaren is appointed as the new head coach early next week, those transfer negotiations will be restarted in earnest, and it’s Lee Charnley’s job to get in the (six?) new players as soon as possible, so that they are available when pre-season starts in early July – which is only four weeks away.

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Patrick Bamford – 21 year-old Chelsea striker

One such target is Chelsea’s 21 year-old Patrick Bamford, and the hope is he comes in on a season long loan deal with a permanent move to Newcastle being made next summer.

However, the Northern Echo is reporting that a year last January,  Patrick was on loan at Derby County under Steve McClaren, and Steve kept playing him out on the wing, to the youngster’s obvious frustration.

In fact Patrick still did quite well at Derby scoring scored eight goals in his 23 appearances, and helped them reach the Championship play-off final at Wembley, where they lost out to QPR, with the last minute winner coming from Bobby Zamora for 10 men QPR.

Patrick tried to get McClaren to play him up front as a striker but to no avail, so when McClaren tried to re-sign Bamford at the start of last season, the youngster didn’t want to play under McClaren.

Instead he  joined Middlesbrough on loan, and scored 19 goals in 43 appearances last season for the side who were beaten 2-0 in the Championship play-off final by Norwich City.

And the same thing could happen this season, and Patrick could turn down a move to Newcastle on loan for next season .

But Jose Mourinho will be the one who makes the final decision on where Bamford will go next season, and one thing is for sure – that there will be a number of Premier League clubs wanting to sign Patrick on loan.

It could now be unlikely that Patrick Bamford will be joining Newcastle on loan this summer.

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152 comments so far

  • Laurent Robert 32

    Jun 4, 2015 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #1

    The misery continues.

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  • optimistic prime

    Jun 4, 2015 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #2

    Perfect

    Step foward Pardew number two

    Maybe Chester is our new striker?

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  • cjtoon

    Jun 4, 2015 at 9:42 AM

    Comment #3

    RH:

    I really don’t think A head scout should be involved in appointing a manager in the first place. Even if GC has provided his opinion I’m pretty sure there will have been applicants all of which will have been sifted through to get us down the the mythical shortlist we heard about.

    Its really unfair to put the blame for anything on to a scout – most clubs probably don’t even know who their head scout is, everything is so scrutinised at NUFC. Rightly so given how poor our decision making seems to be. Hugely negative nonetheless

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jun 4, 2015 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #4

    OP,
    I didn’t say they would necessarily have him back. I said they would swap where they were with him for where they have been pretty much ever since. If they wouldn’t then they obviously are quite happy slumming it in the championship. Fair enough if that is what they want.

    As for McClaren here, I haven’t said anything other than a continuation, but slightly better than Pardew and Carver.

    Never greeted Ashley’s speech with optimism, he just played on the fact Newcastle fans are generally a hopeful bunch, you have to be to support this club, and he knew some would take what he said in a positive way as they hoped he was about to change.

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  • jayphoto

    Jun 4, 2015 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #5

    Ha! Couldn’t care less if we miss the chance to sign and develop a Chelsea youth player… I’d rather Perez got cames over Bamford.
    Whoever takes Bamford will have to guarantee Chelsea he plays about 60-75% of matches…. I hope we have better strikers on the field for this time myself.
    Also Bamford was 20 when he played for Derby and Derby during his time there won a lot of games scoring a lot of goals. He was in no place to demand to start up front and in truth at the time wasn’t good enough. He got a few minutes up top and wasn’t that effective.
    And who knows, maybe being allowed to adapt to the pace of the league playing wide of a front 3 (he didn’t play midfield he played as a right forward) contributed to the season he just had at boro?

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jun 4, 2015 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #6

    Karanka would have been good.

    Expectations have been lowered so much now, I’m finding it hard to really care any more.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jun 4, 2015 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #7

    lilo

    your last paragraph at 4 – spot on.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jun 4, 2015 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #8

    Small World,
    I’m not sure what the relevance of what previous coaches has to do with appointing Steve McClaren. There isn’t any as far as I can see. It is just a completely pointless stand point that has zero bearing on this appointment.

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  • jayphoto

    Jun 4, 2015 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #9

    worth noting aswell that Bamford performed so well out wide that he got a player of the month award…He went 5 or 6 games without scoring when he played through th centre there and resumed scoring when he went back out wide.

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  • Lindisfarne

    Jun 4, 2015 at 9:46 AM

    Comment #10

    Where is the potential resale value in hiring McClaren?

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  • Mr Magpie

    Jun 4, 2015 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #11

    Why would we want to improve Chelsea youngsters, it’s unlikely Mourinho will sell him. Much rather see Adam Armstrong getting some games.

    Hopefully we bring in better quality strikers to allow Armstrong to get a season out on loan at a championship club.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jun 4, 2015 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #12

    just pray god it’s not another insane 8 year contract

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  • NezzaNUFC

    Jun 4, 2015 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #13

    Who cares anymore?

    We are f@cked anyway with SM in charge.

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  • cjtoon

    Jun 4, 2015 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #14

    I just wonder if and when McClaren is appointed we can unite as a fan base and try and create a positive club image. Both vocally at SJP and generally.

    It’s going to be another circus if a Sack McClaren dot com is set up before the season has even started – Which in all honest I really wouldnt bet against!

    Though he isn’t an inspired signing should we make the appointment, I feel he will get a strong hold on the squad, demand authority & play better football than we have watched in the past 2-3 years.

    I think he will get more from our ‘flair’ players and genuinely turn us into a more attacking side. Only time will tell, I think overwhelming negativity around his appointment would be embarrassing – It will be more to do with the signings we make this summer, for me and I hope a lot of you also think that is the main indicator of intent

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  • optimistic prime

    Jun 4, 2015 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #15

    Lg

    I didn’t expect much to change and felt a bit awkward/strange seeing people getting excited over Vierra.

    The whole search for a HC thing looks quite unproffesonal at best. Can’t see transfers being any better. That’s just me though, I may be optimistic but I’m not being fooled again.

    You’d think Boro fans would want to be in EPL but they’re a weird bunch, grounds empty the majority of the season.
    I know some Sunderland fans who’d like to of been relegated so they could win some games and “re build”.. It takes all sorts of fans.

    I can no longer hope assume or expect things to get better, until something substantial actually changes I’ll continue to be skeptical and against everything Ashley does.

    He’s done nothing for the benifit of NUFC in 8 years, I can’t see him starting now!

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  • Slank

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #16

    Isn’t a strange that so many don’t want McClaren because he was a Championship manager but do want Bamford who is a Championship player.

    I’m with the others. I would want the club to push on with Armstrong. A loan spell would do him good.

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  • barkel

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #17

    I’m looking forward to the press conference when they announce the new HC, will be interesting to see if Charnley shows up or they leave him by himself like the did with Pardew

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  • jayphoto

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #18

    ha imagine a sackmclaren.com before we even start.
    I’d prefer a ramped up AshleyOut campaign if a suitable transfer window isn’t had! Made worse that he stood there in an interview and lied to us. Obviously they’ve got some time in the transfer window but really our dealings on all fronts should be done before the first game of the season

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  • JDdubai

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #20

    I think people will give him a chance if he takes over – he wont be anyone’s first choice pretty much, except toonbrother) but lets see how he does.

    Just wish it was sorted already so they can start trying to get players over that line…

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  • Lindisfarne

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #21
  • Slank

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #22

    What’s the betting that if we lose the first two games the ‘sackmclaren.com’ will be up and running.

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  • jayphoto

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #23

    @JDdubai – he’s my first choice under this blue print and structure.
    I’d rather they tore up the whole thing and gave a manager control, but if they’re not going to do that at least Mclarens relationship with Carr suggests theres more of a chance of them being on the same page.
    Under a new system i’d absolutely love them to take a gamble on a Vieira or Zidane or Gourvennec as boss but under this god awful blue print I can’t see any of the managers i’d want sticking around longer than 6 months whereas I can imagine Mclaren having us back around the 8th mark competing with Swansea, Stoke, maybe southampton mark. Can’t believe i’m just hoping we compete with those kinds of teams but after last season it seems a pipe dream even that

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  • hibbit

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #24

    jd he will have to hit the floor running or he will be gone by christmas the first 3 games will be key

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  • optimistic prime

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #25

    Jd

    The line that’s more like the walls of Troy than a line 😉

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #26

    cjtoon

    just what calibre of player do you think SM would attract compared to the likes of a Viera.

    A viera had a feel good factor, SM just has a feel same old, same old factor and nothing changes.

    NUFC is a waiting room for mediocrity. Very few people want this appointment and just see it ending in tears.

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  • martoon

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #27

    I am massively underwhelmed but I am prepared to give him a chance – however if we have a bad start then I think supporters could turn against him quite quickly whereas someone like PV they would have been more patient!

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #28

    hibbit

    we don’t sack failing managers,we embrace them.

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  • jayphoto

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #29

    @Hibbit – under Ashley he could lose every game and still not be sacked… they don’t sack managers, i’m pretty sure NUFC managers job is the safest in football. Pardew would have been sacked 2 seasons before at any other club, and again when he headbutted meyler and Carver would’t have made it past march…
    When stuffs going wrong i think Charnley just hides his head under a pillow and hope it goes away

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #30

    Jay at 18

    You’re saying Ashley lied to us. Surely not…!!!

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  • jayphoto

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #31

    Ironically I can imagine Mclaren getting the job even if Shepherd was still owner. He’s a proper Freddie Shepherd style appointment isn’t he!

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  • hibbit

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #32

    rotonda i did not mean sack he has a habit of walking

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  • Small World

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #33

    Lilongwe

    Although previous coaches gave no bearing on Steve Mc appointment, they go to show either our previous unwillingnes or inability to ever attract managers / coaches from the top drawer. Mike Ashley has committed a thousand sins, and is going to get in the ear over this matter where he in this respect is little different to his predecessors. I really would love for the situation to change, however can’t see what will. We almost struck lucky in finding KK and aimed for the stars, hitting only the moon. A premier league win at that point could gave changed the club forever.

    We need that magic formula once more. Ambitious chairman, ambitious manager and a slice of luck

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #34

    Rotonda,
    In getting McLaren, do we have to endure your whining about what a better manager could do with the squad of top players Mikey provides for the next five years.

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  • jayphoto

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #35

    @Rotonda – I can’t work out Ashley mate. I’ve met the guy, and i’ve a regular client who has done business with him a few times and his treatment of Newcastle isn’t in line with how he talks about newcastle. His intentions are a bloody mystery.
    Really odd for him to do a TV interview though. If he doesn’t come through on those intentions he’ll be labelled an outright liar as its video proof of stuff coming out of his mouth, something hes never ever given before. That reputation would follow him into the business world which wouldn’t be good for him. Makes no sense to promise to try to be successful and then seemingly do your best to fail

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  • Lindisfarne

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #36

    Rotonda heights

    Gotta luv a hug!

    I am sure the first time SMC comes out at SJP he will feel the warmth of the crowd…..sorry wrath!

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  • cjtoon

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #37

    Lets hope the fixture list is Kind then, Man City Away first game probably :-p

    I feel sorry for whoever it is – Negativity is oozing out of every crack of the club. If its McClaren he is starting the season on a tightrope wearing ice skates.

    God only knows if it ends up being JC…I think our fan base may halve.

    My main problem is the length of time its taking to announce something. If SM is apparently on holiday now why haven’t they got it all sorted before he’s gone on holiday. Mental…

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  • Slank

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #38

    Rotonda

    ‘..what calibre of player do you think SM would attract compared to the likes of a Viera..’

    Pardew attracted some good ones and he had never managed in Europe or a national side. But it’s a ‘what if’ that will never be answered with Vieira.

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  • davetoon

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #39

    A totally desperate and sacked Championship manager was all that Charnley could get over the line

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  • jayphoto

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #40

    @CJtoon – I predict Manchester United away first game.
    The big clubs always get an easy couple of fixtures to ease their way into a season, if last seasons anything to go by, ain’t no easier fixture than us.
    Also, the conspiracy theorist in me thinks the fixtures will be kindest to Man Utd. The Premier League gets most exposure and makes the most money when Man Utd are competing for the title. They are one of the biggest commercial assets if not the biggest and its in the sponsors interests for them to be as successful as possible

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