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Three Frenchmen To Leave Newcastle This Summer

9:32 am, Friday, June 5th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 114 Comments

It’s a good question as to which players will be leaving the club this summer, since we need a bigger squad than we had last season, if only to be able to get past all the injuries we seem to pick up every season.

And since John Carver kept saying there were players not good enough for Newcastle and they will be leaving the club this summer, we assume a number of them will be on their way.

Mehdi Abeid Burnley

Mehdi Abeid to leave this summer?

The Sun today have identified three players they think will leave Newcastle – Mehdi Abeid, Gabriel Obertan and Yoan Gouffran – and since they still have contracts at Newcastle,  they will be put on the transfer list.

After 22 year-old Mehdi Abeid, who is of Algerian descent but born in France (that’s why I’m saying he’s French in this article), had done so well in Greece last year while on loan.

We were hoping he would come through, but Carver hardly played him this year, and it’s a good bet that Panathinaikos will be back in for him this summer.

That’s where he had an excellent loan spell and hit 10 goals in 38 appearances for the Greek side.

Gabby Obertan showed his best form of the season until he was injured against Liverpool,  but it looks like the former Manchester United winger will be moved on this summer.

And another Frenchman, Yoan Gouffran, has been disappointing thee last two seasons,  and while he works hard he  hasn’t been the goal threat we had hoped he would be.

Not many players played well for John Carver this year – most players didn’t show anywhere near their best form for the coach who lacked man-management skills – and just couldn’t get the players to play for him.

So we are hoping Steve McClaren will be able to take a look at all the players in pre-season,  before deciding who should leave – Steve shouldn’t rely on what John Carver tells him about the players.

After all McClaren may be able to get some of those fringe players playing at or near their best,

And we must retain a bigger squad for next season, otherwise we could soon be down to the bare bones again because of injuries, as we were this year.

Comments welcome.

Tags: Gabriel Obertan · Mehdi Abeid · Newcastle News · Transfer News and Rumours · Yoan Gouffran

114 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Toon Tang // Jun 5, 2015 at 9:33 AM

    With 2 more shitters to come in no doubt.

  • 2 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 5, 2015 at 9:38 AM

    The Sun have identified three players they think will leave … So what?

  • 3 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 5, 2015 at 9:43 AM

    It’s almost like they shoot themselves in the foot on purpose to stay a mid-table club and shelve any kind of ambition, it’s really frustrating to watch it unfold over and over again.

    I hope the squad is sorted out properly and no more limping to the finish line because of injuries and suspensions.

    Give us 20 top players and bin the mediocre ones who really shouldn’t he anywhere near an NUFC shirt.

  • 4 lochinvar // Jun 5, 2015 at 9:44 AM

    I’ve identified the Sun as a paper not worth reading

  • 5 Rotonda heights // Jun 5, 2015 at 9:50 AM

    who would buy obertan and gouffran? Abeid under a proper coach (maybe even mclaren) could still become good. wasted opportunity there, but probably paying the price for telling carver what he thought of him.

    As for clearing deadwood, surely carver, stone watson and woodman should head the exit queue. Bet carver enjoyed telling guti he was out.

  • 6 croftus5678 // Jun 5, 2015 at 9:58 AM

    @5 rotonda

    completely agree

    abied is very usefull still learning as is currently not out of his depth in the squad we have atm ! esp when compared with anita/tiote/marv/bigi/vukic ect who are still on our books

    i hope arma goes out on loan maybe to rangers next year to get some proper coaching as it worked wonders for vukic.

  • 7 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 5, 2015 at 10:02 AM

    I don’t see the problem with Abeid. He is OK and could be used as a squad player, I don’t get the thinking behind that unless they are looking to make money from a sale.

    With Tiote and Abeid away that is just stupidity for me. I really fancy Tiote to go but his form and injuries last season might see us struggle to offload him. He dosn’t warrant a new contract and he will go for free next summer if we don’t cash in now.

    Abeid must be cheap in wages also. Has to be kept.

  • 8 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jun 5, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    Wouldn’t get rid of Abeid – didn’t get a decent chance – either injured dropped or moved from one position to another

  • 9 Lindisfarne // Jun 5, 2015 at 10:08 AM

    Its a stitch up! In the case of Abeid it makes you wonder where Carr is and how much power is in the hands of the Coaches. I do not think any fan would want to see Abeid go and undoubtedly improve in another league under a different Manager. This article just shows what the tabloid press are, an advertising board to drum up interest, let the ripple take effect and there will soon be names of clubs attached to players with no authenticity. Raising expectation and justifying the transfer merry-go-round. Corruption is systemic in the professional game, whether it is legal or illegal, corporate or sporting and we all allow it to happen.

  • 10 croftus5678 // Jun 5, 2015 at 10:08 AM

    @7 toon

    when he was on loan last season i read he had a year remaining on his contract when his loan finished (never looked into it though tbh) if it is true it could explain them not wanting to renew his contract as they would have him on the books for another 3+ years at a higher wage than they want to pay him at my best guess !

    he’s algerian regular international player also so imo he would be asking for a half decent wage now instead of the pittence training wage he was probably getting.

  • 11 lochinvar // Jun 5, 2015 at 10:09 AM

    Ed – you talk of McLaren getting the best out of some players ?
    Did I miss something ?
    I don’t recall the club making any announcements about a new Manager or Head Coach being appointed.

    Anyway all this talk of McLaren is just a smoke screen while the club finalise details with Klopp.

  • 12 lesh // Jun 5, 2015 at 10:11 AM

    It’d be a shame if Abied were shipped out because of Carver’s opinion of him.

    As Ed and others have said, a lot of players underperformed under Carver last season and more to the point, there’ve been a few who have not fulfilled the potential that was presumably there when they were bought.

    Carver’s been with us coaching these guys and although it may seem unfair to him, he might not be as good a coach as he believes he is – I’m talking coach rather than HC!

    Ok, he’s got his coaching badges but as we all know, passing a driving test doesn’t make a person a good driver.

    Add to poor coaching the number of players injured during training and surely it’s time for a thorough review of our coaching and fitness staff and if necessary, move them on.

    Ashley surely must buy into that thought when you consider the cost of losing money on players who do not come up to standard and are moved out.

  • 13 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 5, 2015 at 10:11 AM


    If they don’t sort a contract out for Abeid it’s a poor decision for me like. I think he has been decent and still more to come from the lad.

    Does anyone know his contract situation?

  • 14 beermonkey // Jun 5, 2015 at 10:12 AM

    every year the deadwood is going to be culled
    and every year come the close of the window its still here
    they wont go till there contracts run out as no1 will pay for them
    so we will not see any decent improvements in the squad till they leave

  • 15 lesh // Jun 5, 2015 at 10:13 AM


    Reports say that Klopp’s the fall back if we don’t succeed with a bid for Mourinho’s services!

  • 16 cyprus // Jun 5, 2015 at 10:13 AM

    Greek newspapers are full of reports that Abeid himself wants out and is forcibly pushing for a move, to Pana..

  • 17 cyprus // Jun 5, 2015 at 10:17 AM

    Hope this Laudrup HC will win us something.

  • 18 nut meg // Jun 5, 2015 at 10:19 AM

    I expect both Tiote & Cisse to move on while they still have some value.

  • 19 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 5, 2015 at 10:19 AM

    Abeid will want first team football I don’t blame him for wanting away.

    If anyone should be shipped out it should be Anita and Tiote.

  • 20 Magpie Season // Jun 5, 2015 at 10:22 AM

    They just signed Essien. Abeid could learn a lot from him; if an offer came he might leave.

  • 21 Griff-toon // Jun 5, 2015 at 10:23 AM

    “Yoan Gouffran, has been disappointing thee last two seasons, and while he works hard he hasn’t been the goal threat we had hoped he would be.”

    Hahaha, works hard…

  • 22 ashleysmate // Jun 5, 2015 at 10:24 AM

    It’s a shame the 3 weren’t Le Ashley Le Charnley and Le Carver ??

  • 23 croftus5678 // Jun 5, 2015 at 10:25 AM

    @13+19 toon

    i completely agree.

    goofy is another i feel sorry for tbh he was bought as a striker and tbf when he played up front for us he looked a fairly decent one and he always like guti tried his hardest no matter what he was made to do !

    pards turned him into a defensive winger and everyone has forgotten he’s a striker now and is only ever played as a defensive winger so he’s obv no good….to almost anyone 🙁

    if he’d have been used as a striker i’ve no doubt he would have had a few suiters that would have taken him and had a better career than what he will have in front of him now.

  • 24 catchy in norway // Jun 5, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    I think this all stinks if you ask me like,

    if I was looking at our team and by that I mean coaches and playing staff, I would defintly let a lot go,

    coaches, first, would be Charver, stone , Woodman, there is to much bad blood between 1 the fans 2 some of the players.

    from a play point of view, I really find it hard to judge a lot of our players, purely based on coaches ability.
    the like of Marv, Goofy, Anita, Abeid , these are good players that have been MOM on many occasions, but have lost there game for the greater good of P45 master plan, HBA also falls into this group for me,

    Haris Vuckic , is a kid with huge potential, the only thing that has let him down IMO is his injurey record, but iv bee impressed with his game, he was let down by P45, as when he played he was not in his best position, and had no support from some of our senior players.

    Dummett,, I honestly believe he is our best CB on the books right now, but coaches think he is our best LB,

    obertan and Williamson would both be out of the door, as they do not posses any football brain cell between them.

    Cisse scores Goals, but he can not do it all by himself, he needs support.

    my biggest fear in all of this big shake up is that we retain CHARVER and the 2 muppets along side of him,

    if it is SM as new head coach, I will think that he is just here for money and not worried about the job. I will not trust hm

  • 25 nut meg // Jun 5, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    @ 22
    AKA as Curly,Larry & Mo.

  • 26 croftus5678 // Jun 5, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    @24 catchy

    omg catchy i agree with all that !

  • 27 catchy in norway // Jun 5, 2015 at 10:36 AM



    lost for words

  • 28 andrewsneill // Jun 5, 2015 at 10:39 AM

    Richards, Ayew and Ings are all available on free transfers with Podolski and Umtiti available for approximately £5m and £8m respectively. They would immediately renovate the squad and improve a number of areas in which we’ve been lacking recently and all for the paltry cost of £13m and some decent wages (which would be partly covered at least by the out going players this summer). After which see how much more Mike/Lee are willing to spend and what you can get for it. Grenier, Mitrovic and/or Vitaliy Denisov are worth a bid or two imho

  • 29 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 5, 2015 at 10:42 AM


    He did get a few goals like, I don’t know if I could trust him upfront on his own but he did start very well. Maybe it is the coaching but he has certaintly went backwards and lacks at the moment.

    He did better than Riviere and cost alot cheaper also.

    I do want to see these sort of players upgraded in the squad though, personally I’v made my mind up on them.


  • 30 windsrave // Jun 5, 2015 at 10:50 AM

    Every article of this site is a click bait. It is losing its credibility

  • 31 shaun__ // Jun 5, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    Abeid, given match time, could turn into a top goal scoring midfielder, I think we’ll live to regret it if we let him go

  • 32 shaun__ // Jun 5, 2015 at 10:52 AM

    Windsrave – agree; def a looming credibility issue

  • 33 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jun 5, 2015 at 10:55 AM

    I have wondered for quite a while if Carr is running the club behind the scenes, scouts, hires and fires players and maybe forthcoming managers are vetted through him.

  • 34 rwpoynter // Jun 5, 2015 at 11:00 AM

    You have hit the nail on the head, especially in the last paragraph. Without spending money to ludicrous levels like Man City and Chelsea, which he clearly will never do, and it seems Deloitte’s report on football finance vindicates this, I cannot understand for the life of me why Mike Ashley doesn’t want this club to be successful. Surely he will end up with more financially than having this continuous affair with relegation most years. He would overnight become a hero in SJP.
    I also agree with you that a lot of players have become disillusioned with the coaching methods and that reflects in the frustration causing so many dismissals and don’t even start on the number of training ground injuries. If McLaren (or anyone else) comes, they must bring their own team in. A new broom is very much needed.

  • 35 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 5, 2015 at 11:01 AM

    Ed, What about this Frechman?

  • 36 beermonkey // Jun 5, 2015 at 11:12 AM

    apart from obertan and our sicknote useless aging defence, all the other players fate should be decided by McLaren if he is to be manager

    I don’t see the point in shipping out players of an already thread bare squad if McLaren can develop them and improve them

  • 37 @nufcbluestar // Jun 5, 2015 at 11:18 AM

    Abeid is Algerian unfortunately….

  • 38 barkel // Jun 5, 2015 at 11:18 AM

    I see we’re all resigned to McLaren being HC.

    I’m glad to see most people agreeing on this, it’s very unusual to not have silly bickering between posts & there’s even a few laughs .. well done lads!

  • 39 Lindisfarne // Jun 5, 2015 at 11:20 AM


    In terms of improving players, if I were Sammy I would be asking to tag along with Abeid.

  • 40 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 5, 2015 at 11:23 AM

    Good little video interview with Jonas, you wouldn’t believe who he thinks is the top player in england he gas played with haha..

    Sorry if that has been posted already..

  • 41 Lindisfarne // Jun 5, 2015 at 11:23 AM

    Charlie in the Gallowgate

    It seems a nonsense that if Abeid is one of Carrs ‘spots’ that he would not see why he is struggling to improve. Therefore his sway on these decisions can not be that significant. Anyway an article in the Sun is comparable to an advertising box in the ‘For Sale’ section of the local rag.

  • 42 Lindisfarne // Jun 5, 2015 at 11:29 AM

    “”if we were to get an offer for a player that is at a value that we want to take”” LC 20.1.2015

    By which he means that the club will use existing players as bait to attract a buyer and sell as part of turnover, whatever the margin.

  • 43 lochinvar // Jun 5, 2015 at 11:37 AM

    Abeid has potential so should stay.
    It’s Carver that should go, he has none.

    Wasn’t there a rumour of a bust up in training between Carver and Abeid – who if he had any sense should have told Carver to do one.

    If Carver holds a grudge and isn’t man enough to get the best out of younger players and to manage them well then that’s indicative of the amateur approach we have in our coaching – therein lies the problem ( albeit one of many ! )

    Yet again I feel that the world is in the 21st Century and that NUFC management is Victorian.

    And it was Carver who phoned Taylor and Jonas because he couldn’t meet and look them in the eye and then asked Taylor to pass the phone to Jonas….to say that both were on their way out.

    The problem is there for all to see.

    Incompetence and mis management on an industrial scale.

  • 44 beermonkey // Jun 5, 2015 at 11:39 AM


    didn’t the club sign up with the sun a while ago?

    if that’s right it is a bishop forsale sign

    toon prod

    who is it I cant get it to play

  • 45 Toonfan8 // Jun 5, 2015 at 11:45 AM

    Kurt Zouma to Sampdoria on season-long loan..We should definitely go for him and get rid of Willo,Taylor…

  • 46 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 5, 2015 at 11:45 AM


    It will spoil it! Surprised me like..


  • 47 Belfast // Jun 5, 2015 at 11:47 AM

    I don’t think any of the fringe players will leave until he assesses the squad to be honest.

    He won’t have a say on Sissoko for example, but they’ll let him make a decision on the ones who aren’t worth anything.

  • 48 Lindisfarne // Jun 5, 2015 at 11:47 AM


    Just goes to show what we have been missing throughout the time we have had Ameobi, Ranger, Best, Harewood, Carrol, Ba, Cisse, Plus how poor Løvenkrands, Matins and HBA(!) were if they were not equal to an injured Owen.

  • 49 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 5, 2015 at 11:54 AM


    Lol, when you put it like that! Shocking.

    Unbelievable really.

  • 50 wynsleap // Jun 5, 2015 at 11:57 AM

    barkel @ 37 Yes we’re all dutifully resigned to having a second rate, uninspiring recently fired manager (sorry Head Coach) in charge in August and another dismal, non competitive season on the horizon.
    Things never change – especially the down trodden, ever forgiving sheep that bleat into St James Park.
    We really deserve what we get.

  • 51 bettyswallocks // Jun 5, 2015 at 11:59 AM

    Mick Quinn on talk sport was saying that Liverpool approached Klopp but he was adamant that he needed to be in control of all transfers.

    They wouldn’t agree so it was a non starter. Not much chance of us employing a manager who wants to manage and not just be a head coach.

    That’s how it it is under Ashley and we’re stuck with it.

  • 52 Lindisfarne // Jun 5, 2015 at 12:01 PM

    I was just getting ready to hail the return of Danny Gosling back into the Premiership, which no one seems to have mentioned and then I realised he only played 278 minutes (out of 4140) last season, one whole game, two assists and no goals. Ouch!

  • 53 bettyswallocks // Jun 5, 2015 at 12:02 PM

    Wynsleap……… Or should I say Fraser (from dads army). You are the ultimate messenger of doom.

  • 54 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 5, 2015 at 12:07 PM

    If Liverpool can’t get a top coach in that just shows where that leaves us under those kind of policies.

    Why this need to trust a jumped up admin clerk and a head scout over a proper football manager with years of experience (hopefully) is beyond me like. The only reason for it is to spend as little as possible on the squad, sell players and save the coin.

    The whole system is completely flawed and against building anything to progress. The only thing it does is save money which the save up for 3 years and start over.

    If this dosn’t change I hope there is hell on for the first game but i’ll wait to see who we bring in and who we release and replace.

  • 55 ilovetoon8788 // Jun 5, 2015 at 12:20 PM

    I actually have zero hope on charnley being able to get the players we desperately need.

    It’s going to be a bunch of freebies with risk and gamble again. He needs to look good with Ashley.

    Spending little and keeping us safely above relegation is his KPI.

  • 56 wynsleap // Jun 5, 2015 at 12:23 PM

    bettyswallocks @52
    Sorry but it comes with over 60 fraught years of faithfully watching and following the Toon. Problem is I’m rarely wrong about these things.
    Seen it all before – done it and worn the T-Shirt.
    Been at the Westwood Out and McKeag Out campaigns and followed John Hall round the clubs on his fantastic mission to take this club over to greater heights (and he did). Thing is Toon fans had REAL bollocks then with a strong desire for progress, now they just sit and take any old bu*****t.
    One good thing – when/if McClaren is finally announced next week that’s the last you’ll hear from me. Can’t take any more of the unambitious, lying crap from Ashley and his non-entity, inept cronies. Every man hits his limit and I’m afraid I’ve just got there on mine.

  • 57 Riviere Run Dry // Jun 5, 2015 at 12:25 PM

    Wallow in your own sadness. Do not try to impress it on others using football as a conduit.

    Welcome McClaren!

  • 58 dazzler // Jun 5, 2015 at 12:27 PM


    I have no faith in Charnley either, but I think if he makes a cock up in the managerial appointment and then the transfers he’ll get the chop pretty quick.

    Look at Kinnear, his appointment made a mockery of Mike Ashley so he binned him sharpish. And that was his mate!

    I think the four-eyed diglett is on thin ice as it stands, he’s got to make an impression this summer or the fan base won’t be neutralised which will have a knock on effect going forward.

  • 59 Ibizatoon // Jun 5, 2015 at 12:27 PM

    Riviere…Are you taking the piss?

  • 60 dazzler // Jun 5, 2015 at 12:29 PM


    Don’t you think such a comment from Riviere run dry is vaguely familiar?

  • 61 JAMSHA(CARVER SLAYER) // Jun 5, 2015 at 12:29 PM


    Gufo – 2 mil

    tiote – 7-8 mil

    obertan – 1 mil

    willo – 2 mil


    austin – free

    delaph – free

    barton – free

    pato – free

    richard – 5 mil

    luiz adriano – free

    loris karius – free

    Schar – free

    ranocchia – free

    konoplyanka – free

  • 62 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 5, 2015 at 12:31 PM


    You can’t do that after 60 yrs!


    Riviere, that was a bizaare comment mind!

  • 63 Essex Geordie Bill // Jun 5, 2015 at 12:32 PM

    If you want to see three players who will be leaving the club in the not to distant future, then look no further than the three youngsters mentioned in the previous thread.

    Given NUFC’s success (lack of) with the home made crop of kids then I give these lads no chance of breaking into the first team.

    Does that make me negative or realistic?

    Again I ask why a lot of people seem to want us rid of Abeid.

  • 64 barkel // Jun 5, 2015 at 12:34 PM


    It’s quite sad to read that post, it’s infuriating that the current regime has life long fans ready to give up. I really do hope that there are a few surprises and that they have turned the corner. I live in hope.


  • 65 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 5, 2015 at 12:35 PM

    A good but long read

  • 66 Essex Geordie Bill // Jun 5, 2015 at 12:37 PM

    I read somewhere that Affelay is available on a free, we won’t sign him of course. Don’t need to add to that comment!!

  • 67 Ibizatoon // Jun 5, 2015 at 12:37 PM

    Dazzler…Yes. To be honest, I am getting annoyed now. I get there are fans who simply want to be positive about what comes next – of course everyone is entitled to do so.

    What I can’t get my head around is why those who are less inclinded to do so are being targetted in this way?

    It’s like the last 8 years haven’t happened.

    Each and every toon fan that I know of wants the club to be successful. Just because they don’t think we will be under our current setup doesn’t make their view any less valid. Given the history under Ashley, it’s perfectly reasonabe.

    I can only assume it’s upsetting folks desire to stick their head in the sand.

  • 68 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 5, 2015 at 12:39 PM


    I agree, that’s twice as long as i’v been following them, got alot of respect for the older lads who have seen alot more.

  • 69 ilovetoon8788 // Jun 5, 2015 at 12:46 PM


    I don’t think neutralising the fan base will ever be in their priority. Charnley is completely incapable in his role and he needs to do how Ashley likes things to be done.

    Mark my words we’ll probably sign 1 or 2 players on the cheap and the striker and defenders we need will be loan deals. That’s all!

  • 70 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 5, 2015 at 12:46 PM


    I think it’s just the way this blog is. Posters were and probably still are hammered for being positive also, or, in the past 4 years looking above Pardew as the problem instead of hammering him while we all knew who the culprit was for the scenario we found ourselves in.

    That’s NUFC blog. I’v never known it any different to be honest. 2 sides constantly digging at each other. The good thing is times change and things flip round, opinions change, it does keep the blog interesting but it can go too far sometimes and can be a touch stressful to folk.

  • 71 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 5, 2015 at 12:48 PM

    Ibiza I agree with you, I am an eternal optimist. I hope and pray that Mash will turn over a new leaf, I agree that everyones opinion is valid no matter where they stand. Even the optimists realise what a cnut Mash has been over last 8 years.

  • 72 Ibizatoon // Jun 5, 2015 at 12:55 PM

    Prodigy…I get that and welcome opposing views. The blog is boring as when it’s all one sided.

    I do wish an actual arguement could be put forward though.

    Just that it’s happening so be positive is hardly much of a debate.

    At least those who are negative have 8 years of experience to draw on – the argument generally makes itself these days. Sadly.

  • 73 bettyswallocks // Jun 5, 2015 at 12:55 PM

    Wynsleap……… That’s really sad. Do you think Mc Claren is so bad? I’m not saying we couldn’t have been more adventurous with the next choice of HC., but there is a case that can be made for Mc Claren to give us some direction and a more watchable brand of football.

    I think it’s still a wait and see mission as to which players come in. Please don’t lose hope, Ashley is really on trial now and if it is the same unambitious dross next season, I think the fans really will revolt.

  • 74 Ibizatoon // Jun 5, 2015 at 12:57 PM

    TFL…Amazingly, I am an optimist too. I was about NUFC too. It’s been beaten out of me however. Only so much blind faith I can do. It’s definitely been used up.

    Not that long ago the majority were saying i’ll have to see it to believe it. It would appear that isn’t the case at all, but each to their own.

  • 75 Our Toon // Jun 5, 2015 at 12:57 PM

    Quick question for both doom & gloom side and positive side:

    We have apparently said 6 players will be coming into the club, take away Jonas and Raylor & if we sell the 3 mentioned above that’s 5 out and 6 in…..what do people think about this?

    My personal opinion is that we are already mega short, we need at least 2 CBs a FB, a DM, 2 Wingers, a creative player and at least 2 CFs. It won’t happen but that’s just how short we are in my opinion.

  • 76 Our Toon // Jun 5, 2015 at 1:00 PM

    Every time I try to be optimistic the club do something to sap it away. Latest example Sammy gets a new contract and Abeid is gonna be sold!! A player who showed more last season in less starts than Sammy that he has something about him if developed correctly. Unfortunately this has all the hallmarks of Carver making the decisions on who stays and who goes!!

  • 77 Ibizatoon // Jun 5, 2015 at 1:00 PM

    OurToon…It’s never really been about size of the starting squad (within reason),it’s the quality of that squad and the fact that most of the current squad seem to spend a majority of the season injured.

    No point in having numbers if they’re not good enough or fit enough to play.

    This squad desperately needs leadership and players who are ready to make an impact, imdago (in my doom and gloom opinion) of course 🙂

  • 78 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 5, 2015 at 1:03 PM

    Ibiza he’s not my choice but I live in hope that McClaren can be the leadership we need, he’s not the worst we could have picked!

  • 79 optimistic prime // Jun 5, 2015 at 1:07 PM

    Our toon

    There’ll be a lot more than 6 leaving.

    Same as last year 7 in 13 out squad filled with kids to pack it out.

    I wouldn’t bet on Sammy staying either, IMO the club only offered him a contract as it means there due compo if he signs for someone else. If we hadn’t offered a contract we wouldn’t be entitled to compo.
    They’ll have offered him buttons.

  • 80 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 5, 2015 at 1:10 PM


    Aye, I get you. I don’t think things will be changing anytime soon in regards to this blog though.

    This summer is going to have some hefty arguments on here I bet.

    Hopefully the club will push on and spare us the divide..

    The funny ironic part of it is if Ashley up and left, this blog would go back to being about constant football and squad players, maybe a but boring haha 🙂 but i’d have that!

  • 81 Magpie Season // Jun 5, 2015 at 1:14 PM

    Really doubt Abeid will be sold though. He was deployed as a holding midfielder for us & performed well, bar a few mistakes but that is expected for someone still learning in Premier League (his first ‘proper’ season).

    Considering the majority of our matches have been played using 4-2-3-1, which requires 2 holding midfielders, the only other options are now Colback & Anita. If we sell, there is no cover or we will have to buy; the latter being unlikely so I assume he will stay.

    However, as unpredictable as the hierarchy are, who is to say they will sell him & not buy a replacement? They won’t find a Colback type player on a free. As for Anita, the only reward for us finishing 5th was his sole signing, he does not merit a place as even a squad player in my view.

  • 82 catchy in norway // Jun 5, 2015 at 1:15 PM

    Toon Prod

    I think you have got it all wrong about Pardew, and still so many have him on this false pedestal, and wish to point the finger of blame higher.

    Alan Pardew brought a lot of his own problems to the party, these problems can only be blamed on those above him for 1 reason, for hiring him hi the first place,

    Ashley may have set out some parameters, like not go for a cup, stay out of Europe and things like this, but Ashley can not be blamed for the style of football P45 played, nor can he be blamed for the team selections.

    p45 was a huge mistake, his history proves it

  • 83 Ibizatoon // Jun 5, 2015 at 1:15 PM

    TFL…My beef isn’t with McLaren. He will get his chance (if appointed).

    However, from where we sit now, do I see any real change? No.

    I do remain open minded and can change my views as things change.

    I’m just not sure on what basis people expect others to be optimistic? If I’ve missed something I’d love for it to be pointed out, if it’s blind optimism, fair enough, there’s nothign wrong with that, but let’s call it what it is and allow people to question it.

  • 84 optimistic prime // Jun 5, 2015 at 1:18 PM

    I can’t be optimistic about Mclaren due to Carver, if he got to choose he own staff I’d feel a bit more comfortable with it.

    He just looks another patsy.

    All I can see happening is another NUFC car crash.

  • 85 bettyswallocks // Jun 5, 2015 at 1:19 PM

    The argument to be positive isn’t that Ashley has miraculously done a massive u turn and decided to run things differently after eight years of ridiculous decision making and selfish greed . That is his character and he’s not likely to do an eboneezer .

    The fact that Graham Carr has a huge influence at the club and is likely to be around for a while means that the HC needs to have a good working relationship with him for there to be any harmony behind the scenes.

    My thoughts and hopes are that Carr and Mc Claren won’t clash and can maybe work together to improve things on the pitch. They are supposedly friends so there is every chance it may happen.

  • 86 Magpie Season // Jun 5, 2015 at 1:19 PM

    I have an interesting topic:

    Anyone miss Lambias now because of Charnley?

  • 87 Ibizatoon // Jun 5, 2015 at 1:21 PM

    Prodigy…It’s another of my club gripes. People laugh at the blogs mini accountants etc, but the only reason people showed any slight interest as it’s been used as justification for the piss poor state of the club.

    I really think people struggle with the idea of effect and cause at times.

    I for one would love to go back to being a typical fan. As things stand, I just don’t see how it’s possible. I’d need to remove a large section of my brain 🙂

  • 88 Mister Tuff // Jun 5, 2015 at 1:23 PM

    Shock as it is revealed that Mr Tubbs, who has always got a keen eye for a profit, plans to make even more money upon the appointment of McLaren.
    It is also believed a few on here have also invested.

  • 89 Belfast // Jun 5, 2015 at 1:24 PM

    Would you miss genital warts Magpie season ? No me neither.

  • 90 Pokat // Jun 5, 2015 at 1:25 PM

    Optimism. I remember when it was all the rage.

  • 91 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 5, 2015 at 1:29 PM

    Newcastle have the 5th biggest net debt in the premier league? how so tubs won’t spend owt!

  • 92 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 5, 2015 at 1:30 PM

    £95 million in debt????

  • 93 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 5, 2015 at 1:33 PM


    For me, I couldn’t careless about history. All managers get sacked in the world of football, they all take on challenges, some harder than others. We have no right to a sir alex or wenger who have been afforded the faith to continue over alot of years.

    You know me by now, and you will know I think the board has cost us alot more than a manager ever could this past 8 years.

    I guess we will see, if Ashley gives us a squad to compete all year round with McClaren and he does well, the same could of been with Pardew or there abouts.

    I only want the club to succeed. To do that you need a squad capable first and foremost and that has been poor during Ashley’s reign. Any manager who comes in is essentially playing Charnley and Carr’s first 11 and not getting what he feels would progress the club. Pretty difficult job under the circumstances.

    Taking away the top players also and not replacing them, he should of left years ago but he agreed to the job in hand. The first decent opportunity he got though he was away. Can’t blame him.

    If McClaren isn’t backed how long before you think he will walk? Surely he has asked for assurances. Atleast I hope so.

  • 94 Ibizatoon // Jun 5, 2015 at 1:37 PM

    Betty…Thank you. Some method in the madness 🙂

    My worry with that is that it plays with the jobs for the mates idea that goes around.

    It could work out that they work well together, as they’re friends, it could also mean they wont challenge each others opinions.

    Who knows? That hasn’t been tested yet. I will for now resist the temptation of bringing Ashley in to this topic 🙂

    Right, back to work for me. Catch you all later.

  • 95 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 5, 2015 at 1:40 PM

    Austin wants to stay in Premier League

  • 96 barkel // Jun 5, 2015 at 1:43 PM

    I’m not surprised Austin wants to stay in the premier league, English players don’t tend to play abroad (obviously a few exceptions) & he’ll want to compete in a league that will get him in the England squad.

    Is the £95m debt all owed to Ashley?

  • 97 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 5, 2015 at 1:47 PM

    Barkel it doesn’t say tbh, if so he owes it to himself 🙁

  • 98 Magpie Season // Jun 5, 2015 at 1:48 PM


    lol mate it would depend; if you had a disease more severe/life threatening than that now you miss the times when you had genital warts.

    For instance, I bet quite a number of people miss Fat Freddy than Ashley.

  • 99 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 5, 2015 at 1:56 PM

    From The Guardian:
    There are two ways of looking at Newcastle’s financial picture. Mike Ashley would say it is incomparably healthier than the over-borrowed operation he took over in 2007; money was spent on wages, he has £129m loans interest-free which he did not reduce. Protesting fans see the £19m profit, £39m banked, and ubiquitous free Sports Direct advertising as evidence that Ashley sees the club as a cash cow.

    Newcastle maintain this is unfair and have promised to invest this summer – as well as appoint a manager. The figures show the money is there.

  • 100 ganiyu // Jun 5, 2015 at 1:59 PM

    If McLaren gets the job, I’d advise him to offload half the current squad. Starting from the defense ( colocinni taylor Williamson mbabu and good).

    My reason for Colo is due to his wilful suspension and sign of not being commited. Taylor and good (injuries). Others aren’t good enough. Only janmaat and janmaal (3Rd choice cb) are good enough.

  • 101 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 5, 2015 at 2:04 PM

    No surprises there:

  • 102 cyprus // Jun 5, 2015 at 2:14 PM

    Reading what Abeid is apparently saying in Greek papers, he’s a dead cert out.
    I hope Sammy stays until the new HC takes a look at him.

    In fact, I know some players will be picked up, but still we should wait for the new coach to have a say as well. He’ll want to contribute in terms of personnel to our impending success.

  • 103 Essex Geordie Bill // Jun 5, 2015 at 2:17 PM

    I can see the transfer window closing and we haven’t signed any new players, any good one’s anyway.

    Strong feeling of Deja Vu anybody?

    Anyway just off to talk to the wall!!

  • 104 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 5, 2015 at 2:17 PM

    Cyprus true, but the players picked up need to be of a decent quality

  • 105 barkel // Jun 5, 2015 at 2:19 PM


    I would be very surprised if we were willing to pay out Eur 21million for a player never mind £21million

  • 106 bettyswallocks // Jun 5, 2015 at 2:34 PM

    Essex……..The window doesn’t open till 1st July. Stay calm man.

  • 107 lesh // Jun 5, 2015 at 2:38 PM


    The debt’s no surprise but what is disappointing is that Ashley’s determined that it remain on the books.

    Investment an decent players and a decent coach could lead to Champions League and its millions. And were the Club to receive payment for the saturation SD advertising and sought more from big-name advertisers and sponsors, that income plus ECL income could go to pay off that debt.

    But no, Ashley’s got it tied to the Club, thus deterring prospective buyers.

  • 108 Klatoon // Jun 5, 2015 at 2:47 PM

    really? Abeid out before Marveaux?

  • 109 barkel // Jun 5, 2015 at 2:55 PM

    Abeid is in the last year of his contract so I can see them trying to get a few £ for him before he can talk to clubs in Jan. I would hope that he’s given a chance from the start of pre-season, he only played a few for us this season but he was the stand out player in the most of them. I would think we have to keep him.

    Marv might do better with a more attack minded game plan and if he can stay fit. I’d hold on to him for pre season and if he still doesn’t fit get rid before the end of the window.

  • 110 Magpie Season // Jun 5, 2015 at 2:57 PM


    Must have been a diligent student that never procrastinated & completed his assignments on the first day they were issued.

  • 111 Magpie Season // Jun 5, 2015 at 3:00 PM


    If I had to choose between Abeid & Marveaux I would go the latter since we need as many creative/flair players as possible.

    Unless they start using Abeid higher up the pitch like he was used at PK.

  • 112 MacToon // Jun 5, 2015 at 3:42 PM

    wynsleap – I always enjoyed your contributions here so It’ll be sad to see you go but understand fully. I’m like you and definitely not in a “wait and see” situation especially after 8 years of Ashley. Could never stomach jam tomorrow anyway.
    p.s. solano sends his love too-

  • 113 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 5, 2015 at 3:50 PM

    Newcastle Need to sort tactics no shit!

  • 114 1949BH PROUDTOBEAGEORDIE // Jun 5, 2015 at 3:59 PM

    magpie season marv is so creative the french minnows he was playing for in a crap league dont want him back. one of the reasons is when he was injured missing 10 league games they took 20 points beating psg amongst others. in the other 28 league games with him available they took 29 points.

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