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Newcastle Legend Backs Steve McClaren

7:16 pm, Saturday, June 6th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 44 Comments

There’s a good article in the Chronicle today by former striker Malcolm MacDonald, and he seems to think the impending appointment of Steve McClaren as the new head coach – which we expect to be announced next week, is a good one.

Malcolm respects the coaching ability of McClaren, who he says is a real football man,  and we’ve already heard from Michael Owen, Jermain Defoe and Teddy Sheringham who have served under Steve as a coach, and they have talked about how good a coach he is on the training field.

Certainly the players seem to like playing for him.

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Malcolm MacDonald – give Steve a chance

This is some of what Malcolm MacDonald has said about Steve McClaren in his article today:

“I applaud the appointment of McClaren and implore the fans to get behind him. They shouldn’t think of England when considering McClaren but of Manchester United where he worked with Sir Alex Ferguson no less and was said to be the best coach in this country.”

“I got to know him a little when he was at Middlesbrough and he’s a football person. The Toon Army must get with him and give him a chance.”

And after the woeful performance of John Carver as the interim head coach,  Malcolm questions whether John can really carry on as the number two, having tasted what it’s like to be the head coach.

We know John would have loved to have nailed down the head coach position, and we dare say if he has taken his chance like Glenn Roeder did when he was given the caretaker job after Graeme Souness was fired back in 2006,  then John could have possibly been given the job.

Glenn was in charge of 17 total games when he took over in early February of 2006, and he won eleven of those games, drew two and lost four.

In the league he managed the team for 15 games, won ten of those and lost only three, for a points total of 32 points from 15 games – which is good and that included six wins in the final seven games.

When Glenn took over Newcastle were in 15th place – 6th bottom –  with 26 points from 23 games, and Newcastle moved up to 7th place on 58 points at the end of the season, and we qualified for the UEFA Cup.

John Carver’s record was  as bad as Glenn’s was good – and the 50 year-old Geordie took over after 19 games with Newcastle on 26 points in 9th place, and we ended up in 15th place on a measly 39 points after we were almost relegated on the final day of the season.

In 19 league games in charge John Carver won only three games and lost 12 – for a points total of only 13.

Not good.

There’s a couple of things John can do – he can stay on and realize that perhaps the head coach position is not going to ever be for him – well not at Newcastle anyway – and be satisfied with being number two at the club,  which he’s been twice before under Sir Bobby Robson and Alan Pardew.

On the other hand his ego may play up – and he demonstrated many times in his interviews he has an ego – and he may find it (very) difficult to go back to being the number two.

We think he’s going to stay on, but he has definitely lost his big chance and his reputation has also taken a hit.

Football management is all about results ,  and nobody can argue that John failed miserably this year, just as Glenn Roeder succeeded in great style nine years ago, even though Glenn was fired by Freddy Shepherd a year later,  just before Mike Ashley bought the club.

We should find out on or before next Wednesday what the coaching team will be at Newcastle, and it’s likely going to be Steve McClaren in charge with the existing coaching staff.

That’s what Lee Charnley and Graham Carr wanted way back in early January, and they have got their wish.

Comments welcome.



Tags: Coaching · Head coach · Management · Newcastle News · Premier League




44 responses so far ↓

  • 1 jazzyp // Jun 6, 2015 at 7:20 PM

    A better coach than Frank de boar I think not Edd or other potential managers out there.
    Again McLaren is the cheap typical easy option for us to go for.
    Would have been interesting who we would have actually gone for if McLaren was still employed by derby

  • 2 spitfire_ // Jun 6, 2015 at 7:28 PM

    “They shouldn’t think of England when considering McClaren but of Manchester United where he worked with Sir Alex Ferguson”

    So what about Carver who works under SBR? I’ll give a fair chance to McClaren as I give to pardew, but that’s it. I’m far from pleased with his appointment.

  • 3 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 6, 2015 at 7:29 PM

    Dwight Gayle really?
    https://nufcdigest.wordpress.com/2015/06/06/newcastle-line-up-dwight-gayle-charlie-austin-to-bolster-attack/

  • 4 sickandtired // Jun 6, 2015 at 7:33 PM

    @ Ed – give over, Man.
    Jermaine Jenas said JC was/is a great coach!

  • 5 banjax // Jun 6, 2015 at 7:34 PM

    Jazzyp

    I agree. What irks is he has turned us down twice, which is fair enough but the thought of no transfer fee was just too enticing for Mike the Miser to look at better alternatives which include Moyes and De Boer to name just two. I have no doubt McClaren has pedigree, but that was in the past and lately he hasn’t shown the kind of success since FC Twenty Enschede. Although we will have no choice but to accept him, he will have to some quick success on the pitch to stop the revival of protests against him.

  • 6 geordieboy83 // Jun 6, 2015 at 7:34 PM

    Spitfire, I think the difference is fergie often spoke of mclaren as being the best coach he worked with and that’s a glowing reference. Not so sure sir Bob ever said the same about carver.

    Genuine question what is it that makes everbodies preferred candidate more qualified than schteve? Don’t gimme sacked from a championship club either. De boer, garde, clement, vieira, tuchel etc.

  • 7 sickandtired // Jun 6, 2015 at 7:35 PM

    @Toon – hahahaha! Well if that’s the new dawn of standards to expect!
    Of course news stories are largely garbage – but imagine Palace going for Cabaye and Remy as suggested and we in turn plump for Dwight Gayle.
    Shoot me now.

  • 8 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 6, 2015 at 7:39 PM

    Sickandtired I know, can imagine sorta thing penfold would do tho

  • 9 geordieboy83 // Jun 6, 2015 at 7:42 PM

    Me personally de boer granted is exciting but winning the Dutch league with Ajax is bare minimum really. And bringing young players through meh! Ajax have been doing it an eternity

    Garde, again did he win much or do a lot that more than was expected? Not so sure but never kept up with Lyon so can’t say for sure

    Moyes, bang average really

    Tuchel, again didn’t win a lot but granted must have something to entice Dortmund

    Galtier, French cup great effort but French league is simple to get a small team mid table really. For example pulis got Stoke mid table and comfortable, in a million times harder league, and fat Sam done the same with various clubs. But we hate them even tho there achievements are better than galtier

    Maclaren, took a crap team and won a cup, same crap team to semi and final in Europe. Won with a minnow team in Dutch league, failed with England big whoop who hasn’t? Facts are mclaren has achieved more than the main names being bandied about.

    Can I just add I wanted de boer or bielsa by the way.

  • 10 jazzyp // Jun 6, 2015 at 7:51 PM

    Banjax

    I will give my full support to McLaren if he is the chosen one, as we all should. he may turn things around and be given the tools to bring us success.
    My grief with this sort of manager is that it typifies yet again that the club or board will not look outside the box and go for something different. Roeder….Hughton….Pardew…..Carver and now potentially McLaren are all in the same mold and do not make you sit up and excite us at the thought of what he may bring to the table.

  • 11 why oh why // Jun 6, 2015 at 8:06 PM

    And this is the man that when I had him sign a piece paper when he realised it was a pardew out sign he ripped it up throwing it in my face

  • 12 investinyouthtoon // Jun 6, 2015 at 8:31 PM

    More of the same it seems. More lies, and broken promises from Tubbs, we have more chance of aiming for a cup or the CL as we are as signing Messi. He’s no intention of selling up, hence appointing a third rate manager and keeping the backroom staff.

    Come 1st Sept, all those who say “give him a chance” or “he’s willing to change direction” will see it was all lies to fool the idiotic. We’ll be lucky to get any of Europe’s unwanted, whilst our rivals show some ambition and sign decent players…..

    Those who are happy to put up with more of the same rubbish, they deserve everything they get.

  • 13 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 6, 2015 at 8:42 PM

    Ed, old Blackley’s beginning to think you don’t rate John Carver and perhaps you would be averse to seeing him get the head coach job. Just picking up on one or two comments you’ve made in recent weeks and getting a bad vibe where John’s concerned. I could be wrong like.

  • 14 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 6, 2015 at 8:46 PM

    Ed, you’ll feel guilty if poor John gets kicked out of the club, signs on the dole the week after and ends up like Charles Kennedy the week after that.

  • 15 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 6, 2015 at 8:51 PM

    Surely JC cannot stay on as understudy to the next head coach for the simple reason that if he wants to be a head coach, he should go and cut his teeth in the job somewhere else. Lee Clarke is miles ahead of JC in the queue at SJP and rightly so because he’s gone and got loads of experience. Why would JC think he’s a better candidate than Lee Clarke?

  • 16 lochinvar // Jun 6, 2015 at 8:52 PM

    It’s not Mclaren in isolation that’s the question. It’s the archaic baggage that Carver, Stone and Chanley bring.
    The sum total of that package does not inspire.
    McLaren starting with a clean sheet and some new coaches might signal a fresh start – that’s the minimum we expect.

  • 17 toon22 // Jun 6, 2015 at 9:05 PM

    MA aint going to change his tune,since he bought the toon he has more than trippled his wealth.
    Why change anything.

    He will treat our club and its customers exactly the same way he always has , so far it has made him a very wealthy man.

    If people cant see its business as usualy they are deluded.

  • 18 toon22 // Jun 6, 2015 at 9:27 PM

    Might be a bit dodgey for the toon if Juve lose that final,they might come and try and poach the best manager in the prem!!!!!

  • 19 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 6, 2015 at 9:38 PM

    Toon22
    You are deluded if you believe owning NUFC has made Ashley a wealthy man.

  • 20 toon22 // Jun 6, 2015 at 9:44 PM

    Blackey your an out and out kn0b

    Google it,his wealth before and currently.

    Go troll/shill someone else.

  • 21 toon22 // Jun 6, 2015 at 9:47 PM

    Im sure he loves all the attention the media,various FAs and governments give him due to his involement with us and Rangers.

    He aint doin it for nothing.

  • 22 Magpie Myles // Jun 6, 2015 at 9:49 PM

    Actually Ashley tripled his wealth from sports direct and house of Frazier. Nothing to do with NUFC, if anything he’s lost money because of his loan and money from the championship season.

  • 23 Graeme // Jun 6, 2015 at 9:51 PM

    Toon 22 – I doubt we could pay Juve enough to take him away!!!

  • 24 toon22 // Jun 6, 2015 at 9:51 PM

    Yes thats why he is hanging around with all the scrutiny,because its costing him money.
    Its the same reason why he is currently being investigated by the police in relation to his involement with Rangers.
    Another club that wasnt going to make him money.

  • 25 Jail for Ashley // Jun 6, 2015 at 9:53 PM

    We’re all worried about Mclaren signing while he’s got his agent working 18 hour days scanning ten different time zones frantically trying to find somewhere better. Mikey and Churners know this but haven’t got a plan B.

  • 26 toon22 // Jun 6, 2015 at 9:54 PM

    How many times has any owner of any prem club had local police raid his home/office in relation to footballing matters ?

  • 27 Jail for Ashley // Jun 6, 2015 at 9:55 PM

    Magpie Myles,
    Are you just pretending to be stupid.

  • 28 toon22 // Jun 6, 2015 at 9:55 PM

    But since it aint making him money its obvious he just likes all the attention.

    Oh wait……….

  • 29 toon22 // Jun 6, 2015 at 9:57 PM

    Untill MA either sells,is removed by the FA or dies the toon is nothing more than a money making scheme for a tat shop owner.

  • 30 bobby mango // Jun 6, 2015 at 9:58 PM

    I’m sick of the vitriol of “the fans should get behind Pardew/Carver/the team/macclaren”

    Its take take, take, take with this terrible club.

    How about they get behind the fans and give something back to us? Some genuine hope, not another has been, who’s failed at multiple levels and plays boring football.

    And shut it with the “he worked with sir Alex” it’s as bad as “Carver worked with bobby”

  • 31 toon22 // Jun 6, 2015 at 10:02 PM

    I dont care who the next manager is or who we pretend to try and sign.

    We wont ever be better than 5th and wont make it out of the first round we play in any cup.,its just not profitable.
    If by some fluke we assemble a world beating side it will be sold before the end of any given season.
    Our purpose is to advertise some tat shop.

    Its tantermount to match fixing imho.

  • 32 wynsleap // Jun 6, 2015 at 10:20 PM

    Magpie Myles @22
    Yeah – we must really have a whip round for him, poor soul – he must be down to his last two or three billion.

  • 33 toon22 // Jun 6, 2015 at 10:25 PM

    Maybe the FA will eventually look into the fact we arnt ever going to compete in the league and investigate,as it undermines the whole structure or the product they sell world wide.

  • 34 lesh // Jun 6, 2015 at 10:29 PM

    Jazzyp

    You know who could yet be appointed if McLaren isn’t appointed.

    Step forward, the best coach in the Prem. He needs no introduction…….

    Macdonald’s right and if the new Supermac is appointed, it’s important that fans get behind him. What will be will be and I’m sure everybody will get behind him.

    Otherwise, and to all critics of Schteev, be careful what you wish for!

  • 35 lesh // Jun 6, 2015 at 10:33 PM

    TFL

    How about Cisse swapped for Gayle?

    Cisse’ll be off soon – I can’t imagine him being too popular in Gateshead!

  • 36 lesh // Jun 6, 2015 at 10:36 PM

    Sicksndtired

    I suspect that Jenas was referring to the other JC, rather than Carver. 😀

  • 37 lochinvar // Jun 6, 2015 at 10:41 PM

    Toon 22@31
    So right – the only purpose of NUFC for Ashley is to have a world wide advertising hoarding because that’s the way he reaches markets such as China and the USA where there is no other effective way he can reach those mass markets and certainly not in a cost effective way.
    Take a close look at advertising hoardings at Premiership grounds of other sports brands and see how closely they are linked to adverts from Betting Companies with Chinese symbols and other Companies with Far East links. It’s clever – the Asian markets are fixated with betting on Premiership matches so what better way to reach that audience.
    Reality is that Ashley has turned the club into the equivalent of the guy aimlessly wandering the streets wearing sandwich boards saying “Eat at Joes cafe ” the only difference is that the message is ” Buy from Sports Diremporium ”
    Get rid of the Sports Direct advertising hoardings if you want the football club back. The only way that happens is if Ashley sells and that ain’t happening.

  • 38 toon22 // Jun 6, 2015 at 10:52 PM

    Put yourself in MA shoes.

    Your a multi billionare and you have publicly stated you wish to win things with the toon.
    You need a new manager/players.
    Are people saying our policy of managers and player aquisition are best placed to accive that goal?

    Really?

  • 39 toon22 // Jun 6, 2015 at 10:53 PM

    “Achieve”

    http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/achieve

  • 40 The Great Valerio // Jun 6, 2015 at 11:29 PM

    Yes, but I want to know more about John Carver’s record as interim head coach. I mean, how did he do? We should be told.

  • 41 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 6, 2015 at 11:38 PM

    Toon22
    I don’t need to google anything. I’m not denying his wealth has increased substantially as you state. But you’re implying its down to his involvement in NUFC. That’s complete bollox.

  • 42 Bigdave33 // Jun 7, 2015 at 3:10 AM

    I agree with BANJAX hes turned us down twice especially at the end we we were desperate for anybody but Carver and you wonder if Derby had went to the playoffs and went up would he have come to the toon.

    So is the the question is would we want an average manager whos turned us down twice when we wanted him. Not a lot of passion for the club by the looks of it. Now hes unemployed he will come out with my most hated cliché “its my dream job”.

  • 43 mickalfas // Jun 7, 2015 at 8:20 AM

    We can hope for the best and one day the numpty can say ,you know i worked with Steve mac

  • 44 posada // Jun 7, 2015 at 9:16 AM

    Everyone says he is a great coach.
    But, is he a good manager.
    Clough – never bothered to coach. Left it to Taylor.
    Ferguson – again great manager not great coach.

    Carver, Carr and Charnley. If they remain in any form it is an insult to all NUFC supporters.




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