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Coaching Staff Taking Shape – Includes Top Fitness Guru

9:46 am, Thursday, June 11th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 157 Comments

There’s a report in the Shields Gazette today that Steve McClaren wants to bring his former Derby County assistant manager, 48 year-old Paul Simpson, to his coaching staff at Newcastle, to be his assistant manager.

And the report suggests that means that old boy Lee Clark will not be joining the coaching staff at Newcastle.

paul simpson and steve mccalren derby

Paul Simpson with McClaren at Derby

Steve Round was also in the running to be the assistant manager, and he’s been a part-time coach at Derby since January, and Round was Steve’s assistant manager at Middlesbrough for six years – so it looks like he may miss out too.

Paul Simpson is under contract at Derby County, but not surprisingly he is said to be very keen to join Steve on Tyneside.

Simpson has some management experience having managed at Rochdale, Carlisle United, Preston North End, Shrewsbury Town, Stockport County and Northwich Victoria, before joining Derby with McClaren two years ago as the assistant manager.

And the other (very) good news is being reported in the Mirror, that fitness and conditioning guru and motivational speaker Steve Black is also ready to join Steve McClaren at Newcastle.

Hopefully Black can help prevent all the injuries we keep getting, and our players also need some inspiration after going through the second half of the season when a lot of them didn’t seem to want to play – so bad were their performances.

Steve was born in Newcastle and attended St.Cuthberts Grammar School.

And more good news is that Black has a very good relationship with Charlie Austin having worked with Harry Redknapp at QPR.

Newcastle are after Charlie as our number one target right now, and it’s understood if Black joins Newcastle that would be a huge draw for Austin, and it’s said to be one of the reasons he’s willing to sign for Newcastle, according to today’s Chronicle.

steve black 1

Steve Black – conditioning guru – motivational speaker – Geordie

Harry Redknapp said that Steve Black had a huge impact at QPR in many ways, and it would be a bit of a coup for McClaren and for Newcastle if we can get him to Newcastle – his home town club.

Steve Black coached England Rugby player Jonny Wilkinson, who has said this about the Geordie guru:

“It is difficult to narrow down what Blackie’s strengths are because there are no weaknesses.”

“His class is his ridiculous knowledge, his thirst for gaining more and his ability to apply it all to an athlete.”

“Blackie treats everybody as an individual and has always found the best way to help me to get better,  just by being myself.”

It seems Steve McClaren is going to have a very good back-room staff at Newcastle.

Sounds (very) good to us.

Comments welcome.



Tags: Coaching · Fitness · Head coach · Management · Newcastle News · Transfer News and Rumours




157 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Lee Dodd // Jun 11, 2015 at 9:51 AM

    All Looking good so farr !!! Great Season Ahead I hope !!!

  • 2 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 11, 2015 at 9:51 AM

    If your a fitness coach looking for a top job would you welcome a reference from Johnny Wilkinson?

  • 3 Slank // Jun 11, 2015 at 9:56 AM

    REPOST

    Barkel,

    How do you know he isn’t progressive and forward thinking ?

    You are right he isn’t young at 54 but is age that important ? .

    The ages for managers in the top ten Premiership positions show a wide age range:
    Mourino is 52
    Pellegrini is 61
    Wenger is 65
    LVG is 63
    Rodgers is 42
    Koeman is 52
    Monk is 36
    Hughes is 51
    Pardew is 53.

  • 4 Canny in Canberra // Jun 11, 2015 at 9:57 AM

    Can’t be bad. We all saw first hand how bad the play is when the head space ain’t right.. Wow go us!! I’m loving this like!

  • 5 Slank // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:01 AM

    Ed,

    ‘Steve was born in Newcastle and attended St.Cuthberts Grammar School… ‘

    Given that Carver and Stone were local lads it surely isn’t such a good thing anymore to advertise the fact that he was born in Newcastle. In fact some may say this is a hindrance. This is like the stories about Lee Clark.

    People should be appointed on merit and not on association with the North East.

  • 6 Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:01 AM

    Need to do better than Paul Simpson. His CV is less inspiring than Carvers and has no top flight experience. I’d like to see Muelensteen or Round over him.

  • 7 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:01 AM

    From last

    Still think there were better out there, but i don’t think he is the dinosaur some seem to think he is. I think he IS forward thinking, maybe has a touch of the ‘progressive’ in him. Not over awed, but not devistated either.

  • 8 Slank // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    YouCouldn’tMakeItUp @ 7

    I agree.

    Some have said that Vieira is progressive, forward thinking and young but given that he has never been a head coach / manager and therefore never tested only his age is the accurate part of the statement.

  • 9 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:12 AM

    Blacky was at the falcons for a while, and they were a very strongly motivated side at the time. Sir Jonny of Wilkinsonshire owes him a lot (as he says). If rocks up at NUFC then it can only be good.

  • 10 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:13 AM

    If HE rocks up….*

  • 11 Canny in Canberra // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:13 AM

    There’s no guarantee with anyone that might have come on board. Remember what gull it did for Chelsea and then came to us and flopped. Every club is different. And different each year depending on the current squad. Given the turmoil we’ve been in of late I’m glad we’ve moved up a level from JC. How many remains to be seen. I just can’t wait for the season to start now so we can see if this is gonna be the resurrection we all hoping for.

  • 12 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:16 AM

    Slank

    I was one of those who gave Pardew time, so, goven that SM is clearly a better option than him, i have to give him his chance too.

  • 13 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:16 AM

    *given

  • 14 BoyDoneGood // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:17 AM

    [Reposted from last thread – one of Ed’s quickies]

    Not many posted yet – the Bull with the Bowler Hat and Stan Anderson – reminds me of Gomez and Fester. No sign of Morticia?

    However, there are lots of accolades for McClaren, but we know his career hasn’t been uniform success. I mentioned Moyse and Rogers as comparisons – both excellent managers, but Moyse bombed at Man U and Rogers isn’t living up to expectations at Liverpool. Moyse + Man U was like Gullit + Shearer half a dozen times over. An established squad is a minefield of egos, and a new coach has a problem – even a Moyse or a van Gaal. Rogers inherited Suarez, an individual genius who doesn’t play Rogers’ natural game, Gerrard (a master or the long pass over the top – not a Rogers tactic), the developing ego of Sterling, and so on – not as big a problem as Man U, but still difficult for a coach to mould to his own style.

    So, in my view, McClaren has the best possible start: a squad in transition; 15th place – plenty of room at the top; not a single player with the justification or the credibility to play the prima donna. This should become a McClaren team within months, and personally I think top 8 in the new season is clearly on (assuming the kind of buying we expect – actually Mr Claremont’s well-reasoned £35M or so a few threads back was a good illustration of the art of the possible; but let’s add in Charlie Austin and make it 50 or so). And, at last, a good cup run, please!

  • 15 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:17 AM

    Will Steve Black sort our problems tho?

  • 16 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:18 AM

    Uh-oh Ayoze
    https://nufcdigest.wordpress.com/2015/06/11/clubs-queuing-up-for-15-million-rated-newcastle-player/

  • 17 WWSBRD // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:21 AM

    Perez for 15 mill? Id probably take that

  • 18 Canny in Canberra // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:26 AM

    TFL
    Here’s the first test then. If they sell Perez we’ll know newts changed because we don’t need the money. Just be MA chasing the money again

  • 19 Chris // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    @15
    “Will Steve Black sort our problems tho?”

    Sounds like he could:

    “The glue that held the Lions together”
    http://www.espnscrum.com/lions-tour-2013/rugby/story/187967.html#uwo5pfDKELVH7DkQ.99

  • 20 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:28 AM

    No point selling Perez for that give him a year or 2 under Steve Macs guidance and he will be a 30 or a 40 million pound player !!!

  • 21 hibbit // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:30 AM

    Mc is very well thought of as a coach a lot saying the best they have worked with as a manager the jury is still out just let him do what he does best get a top DoF the staff he needs and lets give him a chance just pray he hits the floor running or the honeymoon will soon be over

  • 22 Big Archie // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:31 AM

    Have we seen this before somewhere?

    July 2013 – Faye Downey hired as fitness coach – helped the England rugby team prepare for the last two World Cups, worked with Leicester Tigers and London Irish, and trained British athletes before the Athens Olympics in 2004. She also coaches teenage British tennis player Oliver Golding.

    July 2014 – Dave Billows – Newcastle’s new fitness coach is the best in the business and will turn Newcastle United’s fitness fortunes around, says champion boxer Tony Bellew.

    June 2015 – And the other (very) good news is being reported in the Mirror, that fitness and conditioning guru and motivational speaker Steve Black is also ready to join Steve McClaren at Newcastle.

    Our last 2 “specialists” have overseen the worst starts to a season injury wise that I can remember.
    Lets see what Steve Black can do

  • 23 Slank // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:34 AM

    If it is Steve Black lets hope he isn’t given responsibility for spot kicks as he need three points and not a conversion.

  • 24 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:37 AM

    McClaren going british?
    https://nufcdigest.wordpress.com/2015/06/11/mcclaren-approves-of-newcastles-transfer-plan-these-four-british-players-targeted/

  • 25 Magpie Season // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:37 AM

    Football is the only sport I follow. Maybe my knowledge on football has dwindled by limiting my focus only on my Newcastle United & the Premier League, but I have never heard the term ‘conditioning guru’ in football.

    Nevertheless, if that means rid of our current physio Derek Wright, I am glad upon hearing this news. Hopefully, the innumerable injuries players have suffered in training, without playing a match through suspension or returning to fitness, will abate significantly.

  • 26 Magpie Season // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:40 AM

    Slank,

    Ferguson & Luis Aragones (won Euro 2008 with Spain) were well into their 70s.

  • 27 Magpie Season // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:41 AM

    WWSBRD,

    Include a sell-on clause, & I wouldn’t mind that either.

  • 28 Slank // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:42 AM

    Big Archie @ 22

    In general the best way to reduce the time a player need to recuperate and get back to playing is if the team are playing well and winning.

    A fitness coach can’t really prevent injuries during the course of a game.

    Statistics have shown that players recuperate quicker in teams that are playing well and more importantly winning their matches. This is possibly something to do with a placebo effect not wanting to be out of the limelight, receiving accolades and plaudits from fans, team mates and the media.

  • 29 stuart no9 // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:43 AM

    people seem pretty quick too accept £15m for perez ( if is true) rather than lookm at the bigger picture .
    It seems people are getting into the ashley idea of making a quick profit rather than keep him and try and build a team up rather than selling our best players .
    People need to realise you cant have success chopping and changing players coz they might get a few bob for them . If SM is asgood as everyone thinks he is , keep him and lets get a team together.

  • 30 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:43 AM

    IMO it would be pointless to sell Ayoze

  • 31 DicBDownUnder // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:45 AM

    If Austin is signed by next week, and we start shifting the stragglers out, Colo, Willo, Obertan, Marvs etc. Then I will have a glimmer of optimism for next season. All good and well we have finally got the sacked manager of a lower league team to join us, but I still don’t see any signings that will make a difference ON THE PITCH. And if come the end of the transfer window, I hear ”the line” mentioned, I will personally shaft SM with my fist and ”work his mouth like a puppet”

  • 32 Slank // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:48 AM

    Magpie Season @ 26

    I believe Sir Bobby came to us when he was 66.

    How many grumbled that he was too old, not many if any I would guess.

  • 33 ilovetoon8788 // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:49 AM

    15m for ayoze. I’d taxi him to Manchester or arsenal for that amount.

    But only problem with that in Newcastle is…

    We don’t invest back. It probably goes back into Ashley pocket.

  • 34 Slank // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:50 AM

    Perez, based on his performances and his attitude, is a gem.

    Players like him don’t come along very often, certainly not for the price we paid.

    It would be madness to sell him.

  • 35 beermonkey // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    backley

    look here and see who back has worked with
    http://www.steveblack.co.uk/

  • 36 DicBDownUnder // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    Stuart No9 totally agree. His first season and he improved so much. Imagine what he will be like with decent coaching and playing in a team with proper service to the front men. Why sell now just for a few million. He’s a match winner and a game changer.

  • 37 JP...from The Rock // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:55 AM

    Derek Wright – We need to get rid of this physio once and for all! We have been suffering the most injuries than any other team for years, I bet it coincides with the amount of years Wright has been with us!

  • 38 roblee7 // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:04 AM

    Anyone else hoping McLaren can tempt Will Hughes from Derby?

  • 39 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:05 AM

    JP,
    Wright has been with the club for around 30 years now. He was the main physio under Keegan when we had very few injuries.

  • 40 roblee7 // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:08 AM

    Thing with Perez if he doesn’t have a good season next season, his value will fall drastically. Same with Harry Kane, I think anyone would be mad to pay 30-40mil plus for a guy who’s had one good season. I may be wrong, and he has been immense, but I think next season he will struggle. I hope not as he has the potential to be England’s main man (Shearer-esque)

  • 41 Wayayman // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:09 AM

    Blackie is not ‘just’ a conditioning expert, he’s also one of the top sports psychologists and motivational speakers there are. Read his book, check out his website, the bloke is the real deal and all of the top sportsmen and women in the world know that a lot of sport is won or lost in the head. If Blackie can get Ameobi up to his potential and get Cabella in the right frame of mind to go and attack teams consistently then he will be worth his weight in gold to us.
    I’ve know the bloke all my life, him and my Dad are old mates and his reputation is well earned. Oh and he’s without doubt one of the hardest blokes anyone could meet – so if it doesnt work out he might get a job as Ashely’s bodyguard…

  • 42 beermonkey // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:11 AM

    roblee

    yes I wouldn’t mind him seen him play once or twice
    but is widely touted as being good player with potential
    I thought he would have been bought last season by a prem team think we were linked this time last year

    jp

    I don’t help when the manager against the wishes of the medical teams advice plays players

  • 43 Wayayman // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:11 AM

    RobLee7 I’ve not seen too much of Will Hughes but trust that McClaren has a decent eye for a player.

  • 44 JP...from The Rock // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:11 AM

    lilongwe – maybe he’s lost his touch as Keegan’s entertainers was ages ago. It must be embarrassing for a physio with so much experience to see the team constantly at the top of the injury list table. I think a more qualified physio with a better record can’t be a bad thing.

  • 45 cyprus // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:12 AM

    Lads and lasses,
    quick to do some nifty business selling Perez!

    Glad you’re not on the new Board!

    We’re not a selling club any more, apologies. But we do have some dead wood if you are interested. Won’t name names but Perez isn’t in that list.

  • 46 JP...from The Rock // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:13 AM

    beermonkey – Yeah you’re right there but how many times have our players been injured in training?? way too many times for it to be all just bad luck.

  • 47 shaun__ // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:13 AM

    Johnny wilkinson – one of the best ever players to pull on an England Jersey? Who literally put his body on the line time and again? Who between him and Johnson pretty much won England a World Cup? As a reference? No ta

  • 48 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:14 AM

    Wayayeman

    Blackie speaks his mind, too. If you know him well, you might have heard the story of why the falcons let him go. Basically told the owner at the time that his son was no good at rugby! (He was right).

  • 49 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:15 AM

    Shaun

    Englands team at the time was utterly world class, man for man. I know what you are saying though. It must look pretty good on blakoes cv!

  • 50 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:18 AM

    JP,
    He is very highly qualified. There is a club doctor above him nowadays in terms of the medical hierarchy, but there is only so much a physio/doctor can do before sending them back to the coaches to build up their fitness. I’d say that more blame should be attached to the training methods, and the recovery methods implemented by our coaching staff, and the fitness team involved.

    People talk about the 2 specialists of recent times, but there is also Tweddle, Ade, Terpcou, Wilding who are all meant to be specialist fitness and conditioning coaches at the club.

    As others have said, psychology also plays a part, particularly with niggly injuries. If training isn’t enjoyable, morale is low, and the team isn’t performing injuries that should clear up quickly seem to linger and recur far more frequently.

  • 51 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:19 AM

    Ed!!!!!

    This auto-app thing is REALLY breaking my b@lls today. For fks sake!

  • 52 Riviere Run Dry // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:19 AM

    £40m net spend is a realistic approximate figure, somewhere between what the fans would like to see and what Mash would like to see.

    Out:

    Elliot £1m
    Colo £1m
    Willo£1m
    Obertan £1m
    Gouffran £2m
    Marveaux £1m
    Vuckic £1m
    Ferguson £1m
    Cisse £7m

    Mbiwa + Santon £8m

    £64m to spend

    Richards – £1m signing on fee
    Van Dijk – £10m
    Brady – £7m
    Redmond £10m-15m
    Hernandez £8m
    Austin – £13m

    £51m spent – £13m left over for possible Jan buys or saved for next season.

    GK – Krul, Darlow

    RB – Janmaat, Anita
    LB – Dummet, Haidara
    CB – Richards, Van Dijk, Saylor, Lascelles

    DM – Colback, Tiote
    CM – Sissoko, Abeid, Anita

    LW – Brady, Aarons
    RW – Redmond, Perez
    AM – SDJ, Cabella

    ST – Austin, Hernandez, Perez, Riviere

    Loan out – Sammy, Armstrong, Bigi

    Some aren’t keen on the likes of Brady, but he’s still young, has great work ethic, is intelligent and links well, fairly quick and there are few better crossers of the ball currently, we’ve been crying out for a good one since the Solano/Robert era and Austin needs to be given consistence quality deliveries. We only have Janmaat at the moment and he has off days.

    It’s about looking at the team as a whole and how it works together, not individuals.

  • 53 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:20 AM

    YCMIU,
    Was that when Dave Thompson was the owner? I went to school with his son, and his son wasn’t even the best rugby player in our school team, yet the only one who got signed up by the Falcons. Nepotism at its finest.

  • 54 Riviere Run Dry // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:21 AM

    SDJ – captain
    Janmaat – vice captain

  • 55 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:22 AM

    McClaren keeps on beinf excited
    https://nufcdigest.wordpress.com/2015/06/11/mcclaren-excited-by-new-board-structure/

  • 56 Riviere Run Dry // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:23 AM

    I’d love to swap Sissoko for Cabaye too, but won’t happen.

  • 57 nut meg // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:23 AM

    Wayayman @ 41
    Your right on the money there. I’d like to add to it by saying Blackie is also a top guy with his feet still firmly on the ground.I’d be delighted to see him back at SJP.

  • 58 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:24 AM

    We have to keep SDJ fit to be captain

  • 59 Lindisfarne // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:25 AM

    Nothing more. via officially recognised media outlets, from the club then?

    Started reading the comments on the BBC website and had to stop because of all the barbarous remarks. They must be been bag supports as they are so low!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32994477

  • 60 Lindisfarne // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:26 AM

    # Bean Bag

  • 61 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:28 AM

    Lindisfarne, jesus those remarks were horrendous

  • 62 beermonkey // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:29 AM

    jp

    last season we bought in moyes conditioning fitness bloke from everton
    from what I read moyes used to beast his players in preseason and worked them hard through the season
    everton never had a long injury list

    so the last couple of seasons we have bought in different people and we have had the same out come lots of injuries
    could it be down to the coaches and how we train the player
    from what I gather these fitness people come in set all the stuff up and then come back in part time way
    have pards and co been following whats been laid out for them

  • 63 WWSBRD // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:31 AM

    Perez is potentially a great player, he was decent last season but not spectacular for me

    Thing is we dont make players better and if we recruit like we should then he will struggle to get in our starting 11, if we flog him to the high rollers now for 15mill then he will go sit on their bench rather than ours where they have the ability to take a registered for the future player

    Hes a good player but the give him a few seasons and he will be worth double that is far fetched imo

    I dont want him gone but for good money am not that fussed about losing a youth player…I dont think he will go but if he did I wont be crying over it

    Austin scored 18 in a terrible team and is rated at 15mill
    Perez scored 7 in a terrible team and is rated at 15mill

    11 goal swing there

  • 64 WWSBRD // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:32 AM

    Bas Dost in talks with NUFC?

  • 65 JP...from The Rock // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:33 AM

    lilongwe – interesting. I will wait in hope and see if the injury list isn’t so high this time. Injuries have hampered our seasons for years now and now more so under Ashley’s tight regime. If we haven’t got a big squad then any small amount of injuries will hurt our chances severely.

  • 66 jimmysmith // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:33 AM

    Well, he’d he’d make a fine mentor to the “drinking school”. A real toper, by the looks of him. He’s at work in that photo, and also clearly drunk!

  • 67 beermonkey // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:34 AM

    tfl

    it was a huge disappointment dejongs injury last season
    as I was quite excited by his signing
    saw him against city in the champions league and he has a touch of class about him

    but I thinking about where he might fit in if McLaren is going to play a lot of 433 where will he fit in
    as his best position is as a no 10 in pardews 4231 he would have been perfect
    he can play as a no9 I know
    nice problem for McLaren I spose

  • 68 roblee7 // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:35 AM

    beermonkey / wayayman – iv only seen him play a few times but if we could get him for around 8-10 mil i think he’d be a quality signing.very good eye for a pass, scores goals.actually reminds me a little of Jermaine Jenas who i dont think ever lived up to his potential, that kind of player though. Hughes to me is twice the player Jenas was though, from the few games iv seem him play.i can actually see it happening. Any other good Derby players? He’s only one thats really stood out for me when iv watched them, baring in mind his age too

  • 69 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:35 AM

    We are “interested” in Wijnaldum
    https://nufcdigest.wordpress.com/2015/06/11/toon-boss-gets-down-to-business/

  • 70 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:36 AM

    Beer I was excited by his signing too, hopefully he can get going next season

  • 71 nut meg // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:36 AM

    Am I correct in saying a lot if not most of our injury problems have soft tissue injuries ? thought I’d put this up anyway.
    Follow

    Steve Black
    ?@B1ackie
    With correct training regime you should be able to go soft tissue injury free season by season. Trauma injuries are mostly collision related

  • 72 Riviere Run Dry // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:41 AM

    Can see it now! Brady’s whipped set-pieces and the wrecking ball that is Micah Richards attacking them – there’s 5 goals at least!

  • 73 cyprus // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:43 AM

    That’s like swapping a ‘rough’ Lamborghini for a Peugeot mate.
    The latter will get you from a to b, but won’t excite you much.
    The former can be fixed, maybe, and will give you the drive of your life.
    Pass.

  • 74 WWSBRD // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:44 AM

    Bas Dost and Austin come in as strikers, Tripper as RB competition and some big ugly brick s**thouse CB

    Winger who can hit a decent cross added to that and a Hughes type CM…Id be pretty happy with that

  • 75 roblee7 // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:46 AM

    Just looked up Hughes on wiki, he’s still only 20 too. Sign him up!

  • 76 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:47 AM

    WWSBRD you are right
    https://nufcdigest.wordpress.com/2015/06/11/newcastle-united-want-bas-dost-talks-held/

  • 77 Slank // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:48 AM

    beermonkey @ 67

    If McClaren is as good as many say he is at coaching then the formation may be determined by the type of players he has.

    When he was at ManU and won the treble wasn’t it 4-4-2 with wingers ? I don’t know about Boro, Derby or Holland. Perhaps someone can enlighten us.

  • 78 beermonkey // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:49 AM

    roblee

    I only watched them a couple of time I know nowt about any of the other players there but cos we have been linked with the play I looked out for him
    seemed to arrive in the box at the right time sure he had an assist that night and I though he played well

    not sure his best position in midfield but at the moment we have colback tiote sissoko anita abied
    so not sure he will be a priority unless were going to start shipping out players

  • 79 WLtoon // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:49 AM

    Does that mean if Steve Black does,nt end up here that Austin wont either.?
    We should go all out to get Austin regardless of wether the fitness guru decides to join up.
    West Ham are sniffing round Austin and they wont mess about getting in first especially with Bilic looking for new blood.
    We will see if the worm has turned sooner or later.

  • 80 WWSBRD // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:50 AM

    cyprus
    U rather made my point there, Perez a luxury player

    TFL
    Were u questioning the validity of my comment? Eesh there is the odd occasion I do my own twitter research 😉

  • 81 beermonkey // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:53 AM

    slank

    I know at twente it was 433
    it has been mentioned on here
    for me I hope we start working on few formations and start lining up differently against different teams
    to exploit them

  • 82 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:53 AM

    Not at all WWSBRD I thank you for alerting us 🙂

  • 83 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:54 AM

    Cyprus didn’t he play 4-3-3 at derby?

  • 84 lochinvar // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:55 AM

    Will Austin be given the number 9 shirt – about time it was given a run out with a goal minded striker !
    Another reason to join and kick start the atmosphere at SJP

  • 85 barkel // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:55 AM

    Rivi

    Are you talking about Robbie Brady?! He’s had about 2 assists last season and no league goals!

  • 86 Lindisfarne // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:59 AM

    I missed this article about Carvers inability to motivate the team properly, it does give some indication of what SNC needs to deal with as a priority:

    WEAKNESSES
    finishing scoring chances
    defending counter attacks
    defending against attacks down the wings
    defending against through ball attacks
    aerial duels
    avoiding individual errors

    http://www.whoscored.com/Articles/hca12kjpskcsisswfylcag/Show/Team-Focus-Motivation-the-Key-as-Carver-Fails-to-Arrest-Newcastle-Decline

  • 87 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 12:00 PM

    reports of Dost and Austin
    They sound like a great partnership

  • 88 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jun 11, 2015 at 12:02 PM

    Dutch daily Algemeen Dagblad have today reported that Wolfsburg striker Bas Dost has had talks with Newcastle United boss Steve McClaren over a transfer.

    The 26-year-old is also being chased by other Premier League clubs (unfortunately the identity of those clubs are not revealed), however Newcastle’s interest is billed as the most “concrete” by Algemeen Dagblad.

    2014-15 was a breakout season for Bas Dost, as the Dutch international scored 20 goals for Wolfsburg.

  • 89 Riviere Run Dry // Jun 11, 2015 at 12:04 PM

    Barkel

    Only fully recovered from injury in the latter half and got a string of 5/6 MOTMs towards the end of their relegation battle, one of few that stood up and was counted for them, which obviously shows character as McClaren puts it. Stats aren’t everything, lift your eyes from the paper ya’ dweeb. Not his fault if chance after chance he created those on the end didn’t put them away. It’s a widely held view that he’s a great crosser of the ball and playing at LW, his original position, instead of WB or LB will give him all the more opportunity to provide for a capable ST.

  • 90 davetoon // Jun 11, 2015 at 12:05 PM

    Had a chuckle when I read that Black spent time at QPR motivating the players.

  • 91 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jun 11, 2015 at 12:06 PM

    @Barkel

    To be fair to Brady he its not his fault he does not have more assists Hulls strikers could not score in a brothel!!

    Watched quite a few Hulls games last season and some of his crosses were delightful put it this way if they had Cisse on the end of them instead of Jelavic etc it would have been us in the fizzy pop instead of them

    Das Bost and Austin together then ? Probably means Cisse is getting moved on

  • 92 beermonkey // Jun 11, 2015 at 12:08 PM

    tfl

    I don’t know anything about dost
    I can see Austin coming in if we are willing to spend the rumoured 15mill
    but we are going to have get rid of cisse and goofy
    cant see us offloading riviere yet (he just needs an few hours with shearer each week he gets into all the right places )
    4 strikers will Austin riviere perez ????

  • 93 WLtoon // Jun 11, 2015 at 12:09 PM

    I doubt we will be in for both Dost AND Austin.
    I know it seems that there are monies there to buy both but that is only speculation, has anyone heard that there is 40 to 50M available?
    I think Dost will be the cheaper option so we will end up with hm,tho i would love Austin as our No 9.

  • 94 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 12:10 PM

    Beer true but if McClaren thinks big we could build a superb squad

  • 95 WWSBRD // Jun 11, 2015 at 12:12 PM

    WLtoon
    Probably not but lets not run out that Cisse will be on his way and maybe Perez

  • 96 Riviere Run Dry // Jun 11, 2015 at 12:13 PM

    Bas Dost is even more reliant on service than Austin, literally has nothing else to his game other than movement around the box and scoring tap-ins, least we know Austin can cope physically and hold it up, challenge for headers and is a purer ST of the ball – a real Shearer heir – if we go for Dost over Austin it’s just another case of skimping and we haven’t really moved on from the past. Austin seemingly wants to come, the fans want Austin, get it done, no excuses.

  • 97 WWSBRD // Jun 11, 2015 at 12:15 PM

    rule out*

  • 98 Riviere Run Dry // Jun 11, 2015 at 12:17 PM

    Can we have a ST that scores and contributes something else please, no more passengers that are anonymous at best, a hindrance to overall team play at worst, aside from when they’re putting it in the net.

  • 99 beermonkey // Jun 11, 2015 at 12:21 PM

    tfl

    we could build a fantastic squad if the owner allows it
    here is the problem will he allow it? time will tell

    wasn’t cisse offerd big money to go to the middle east in jan ?? so I can see him going,
    I feel for goofy I think we have ruined the poor bloke he and obertan should just be offloaded
    I would also offer taylor willo and cash for Austin they need defenders and we need to get rid cos of his injury record and bring in 2 decent centre backs

  • 100 Wayayman // Jun 11, 2015 at 12:21 PM

    Winjaldum would probably love to come here and play for a Dutch manager…

    Nutmeg@57 – i haven’t seen Blackie myself for years but grew up with him around in my dad’s circle of mates. The best story I heard was about his time as a doorman at Tuxedo Junction. I wouldnt mess with him!

  • 101 barkel // Jun 11, 2015 at 12:24 PM

    Rivi –

    I’ve watched him play a fair bit, he was very good at u21’s he just hasn’t impressed me all that much this season, he was decent in a poor Hull side but even in Internationals he wasn’t great. I know he was injured for a bit but I don’t think he missed too much of the season. Fair enough he can get a cross in but I don’t see him as much of a step up.

  • 102 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jun 11, 2015 at 12:24 PM

    Lilongwe

    Yes. Dave tompson was the guy. His son was never prem standard.

    Apparently, the story goes thus…..

    Dave T walks into the changing room after another poor result (DT himself is to blame for it because of poor investment). Anyway, he starts ranting and raving, and said something along the lines of “This is not acceptable, some team changes are going to made and some of you are getting dropped”.
    Blackie, apparently without missing a beat, said “Yeah, starting with your son”.

    P45 in the post afrer that, and relegation coincided with his departure. The rest is history, geography and home economics.

  • 103 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 12:29 PM

    Would take Dost and Austin over Bamford

  • 104 WLtoon // Jun 11, 2015 at 12:31 PM

    @95 WW

    Cisse maybe offloaded but if its true that Mac gives young blood a chance then he will hopefully keep Perez.
    He could be an outstanding talent given a chance and good guidance so i hope he stays.

  • 105 Lindisfarne // Jun 11, 2015 at 12:36 PM

    Vas ist Das Bost?

    Scored 16 goals last season for Wolfsburg, fourth highest in the Bundesleague. Managed 4 against Leverkusen in the same game, one free kick, a header and two flick ins, so is heavily reliant on service and playing counter attack. Has very strong striking abilities and holds onto the ball, he could be just the player to lead SMCs’ fast breaking defensive team.

    https://youtu.be/RQkfM1-YFMA

  • 106 WWSBRD // Jun 11, 2015 at 12:36 PM

    WLtoon
    True but realistically I still dont think Steve will have that much say in the transfers so if someone come in and offers 15mill for Perez Id expect him to leave

  • 107 Munster Mag // Jun 11, 2015 at 12:37 PM

    Things are shaping up well . I havent read the posts but o doubt plenty of moaners on here. Not enough proper englishmen or something? Jesus wept. McClaren getting some good endorsements. Has Average Contents had a moan yet today ?

  • 108 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 12:40 PM

    Paul Dummett out of wales game with pulled hamstring!

  • 109 bettyswallocks // Jun 11, 2015 at 12:40 PM

    BoyDoneGood…………..very good point that McClaren should be able to mould a team to suit his ideas.

    Like you say there is not one player that can think they are above his coaching, so he should be able to command some respect.
    Particularly with all the positive comments from influential ex players.

  • 110 Lindisfarne // Jun 11, 2015 at 12:41 PM

    Riviere Run Dry

    You do have to acknowledge that Bost was the highest scorer in a team that scored 72 goals, however it would appear that he was very reliant on de Bruyne to provide them for him. KdB had 10 goals and 20 assists, nearly twice as many as any other player in the league.

  • 111 BandB // Jun 11, 2015 at 12:44 PM

    I see Shola has been released.

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jun/10/premier-league-released-players-lists-abou-diaby-glen-johnson

  • 112 Lindisfarne // Jun 11, 2015 at 12:45 PM

    Last comment and I am off oot:

    I am going to repeat myself, Cabaye will go to Roma.

  • 113 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 11, 2015 at 12:45 PM

    Afternoon lads,

    Are we debating selling Perez? Why? We have enough dosh without doing that I hope. Rather cash in on Tiote, Williamson, Obertan, Gouffran and Anita if raising funds. Could be a gem for us, have a feeling alot of eyes will be on him next season to see if this season was just a one off. If he does well I think he may well be away for decent money.

    I’ll be pleased if Steve Black comes in, I fancy a trio of McClaren, Clark, Black and maybe a role for Steve Watson. I’d be over the moon with that.

    Never heard of this Simpson lad so can’t comment really, has he a good reputation?

  • 114 BandB // Jun 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM

    There has to be a hope that McClaren and Carr will see eye to eye on transfers rather better, perhaps resulting in us getting some signings he actually wants.
    I remember Pardew complaining that the players bought in the winter of 2013 were no better than the ones he already had.
    Some very decent players were not very brilliantly handled and my biggest hope for the new coaching regime is that it should be better with so-called problem players and less given to favouritism.

  • 115 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 12:59 PM

    RIP Dracula

  • 116 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:00 PM

    B&B it’s to be hoped McCLaren and Carr do they are said to be friends

  • 117 Average_Contents // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:01 PM

    Ironically put munster. You sound like welsheagle9.

    Instead of coming on moaning about so called moaners why not offer something enlightening then, ya know instead of moaning.

    Better still, let’s forget everything that’s gone on at the club over the last 8 years and put our faith in a man who’s held us back but does one clearly staged interview offering nothing up apart from he’s not leaving until we win something. Sounds splendid.

    Actions speak louder than words. Or in your case, don’t.

  • 118 davetoon // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:01 PM

    If Bas Dost could continue on his second half of season form for us – he would become most fans favourite player very quickly

    He was a beast at the start of the year.

  • 119 Magpie Season // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:02 PM

    Wes Brown released too. Considering SMs Manchester link, think we could land him?

  • 120 BandB // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:03 PM

    TFL

    I am certainly more inclined to put some trust in McClaren’s opinion of a player than I was in either of the past two incumbents or Allardyce. There was too much old-shouldering going on and I hope it stops now.

  • 121 Magpie Season // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:04 PM

    By the way,

    I just heard the we now have an exclusive media partner in the Daily Mirror. While bans still remain for the rest. Is it true?

  • 122 BandB // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:04 PM

    Spell check is clearly familiar with the phrase “old-shouldering” but not “cold-shouldering” 🙁

  • 123 davetoon // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:05 PM

    @BandB 111 whats the deal with Vlaar? He was one of the most wanted defenders after teh last WC

  • 124 WLtoon // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:06 PM

    WW

    Of course an offer of 15M would be snapped up,but do you think any club would offer that for Perez?
    maybe in a yr or 2 if he progresses.
    Im not even convinced that we have made any bids at all for Austin or Dost,its only rumours, and we all know what happens with all that Bullshit.
    Austin for example is on international duty,then he,s away on his hols, so it would be 2 wks at least before anything happens with him.
    2 wks is a long time in the transfer window, in that time half the epl will be linked to him,and tbh i doubt we would compete with Spurs and Southampton, regardless of what Fatman says.
    Time will tell though.

  • 125 BandB // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:07 PM

    MS

    He and Vlaar from that list are likely to be offered new contracts the article says.

  • 126 BandB // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:08 PM

    davetoon,

    I think he has suitors, including Manchester United.

  • 127 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:09 PM

    Munster,

    I replied to this in the early hours. It’s personally what I’d like to see, an English spine within the squad. If Steven Taylor can keep himself fit, Colback, sign Austin and a couple more. I don’t mean flood the whole squad with English, Id just like to see a few more brought in. I really think it would benefit us. I’d love to see a good English leader in the center of the park aswell, not sure Colback has that in his locker just yet.

    Magpie, (from the early hrs)

    Man City and the top clubs are going after top foreign players worth fortunes, world class players. It’s not quite the caliber we are looking at bringing in and have done. Im hoping we do sign atleast about 3 first team players that are English. I think it’s due a change up, I think McClaren has commented upon it aswell.

    Just my own opinion, and im not hating on foreigners here, I would just like to see more English lads brought in who are ready for the first team.

  • 128 WLtoon // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:13 PM

    @96 RRD

    My thoughts exactly about Austin.
    Would love him up here but we have been told too many lies to be totally convinced that we have turned the corner.
    I said in a previous post that we will probably go for the cheaper option so will end up with Dost.

  • 129 davetoon // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:13 PM

    I hope we at least make an inquiry

  • 130 BandB // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:14 PM

    The sale of Cisse would make it a self-financing transfer.

  • 131 bettyswallocks // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:18 PM

    Ashley isn’t afraid to splash out and take a gamble, not just on the roulette wheel where he is apparently a fearless player, but on the stock market he has taken huge risks. Some have come off, others have failed miserably.

    Whether or not he shut up shop on investing in the club, once he realised what and who he was up against doesn’t alter the fact that he has been extremely frugal for far too long.

    He appears to be far wealthier now than when he took over and he can more than afford to give us a winning team rather than a sad bunch of losers.

    In his private life he seems to buy extravagant things without worrying too much about the cost. In football matters he wouldn’t give 9 quid for a tenner without a month to think about it.
    Now s your chance Mikey boy. Make a name for yourself and splash some cash.

  • 132 davetoon // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:18 PM

    @WLtoon Would Dost seriously cost under £15M. That would be a bargain

  • 133 WLtoon // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:20 PM

    @113 TP

    The club are,nt considering selling Perez but the opiniion of one or two is that he would be sold at the right price,and of course that is true, but we dont need to sell,we should keep our good potential,and he is one of them.

  • 134 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:20 PM

    McClaren doesn’t mess about he’s apparently spoken to dost
    https://nufcdigest.wordpress.com/2015/06/11/wolfsburg-striker-bas-dost-holds-talks-with-newcastle-head-coach-steve-mcclaren/

  • 135 WLtoon // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:23 PM

    @132 Davetoon

    Im not sure but the last time we were linked with Dost it was undr 10M tho his price may have increased bcos he had a good 2nd half of the season.

  • 136 BandB // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:23 PM

    I hope we don’t sell Perez. He is a very smart footballer and I would like to see what else could be got out of him.
    It could come down to whether or not he is to be a first choice starter next year. Under the old system it’s hard to see how they would let a player they could get £15 million for act as a bench warmer.
    So Perez will be a good barometer of whether much has changed.

  • 137 WWSBRD // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:24 PM

    WLtoon
    I dont know mate daft things happen in football

    As for Austin and his jollys he can easily come sign for us then go on a jaunt 🙂

  • 138 catchy in norway // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:26 PM

    got to say , I mentioned 2 names on here way back in September I would like to see at NUFC, Steve mac and Karanka ,

    me personally , I don’t really care what others think about him, I judged him on what he has done with footballers, not with what he looks like with a brolly or the clubs he has apparently failed at.

    reading all the good things top pros that have been critical about us in recent years say this is a good move must mean something good,

    the good things he has done in football far outweigh the bad things, and what I find totally bizarre about this whole thing is why people chose to ignore history, they accepted P45 and gave him a chance, yet everything he has ever done tells you he is a dud a parasite. his greatest achievement is scoring vrs Liverpool.
    McC has been a treble winner with Man U, A cup winner wit boro, a league winner with Twente, not to shabby if you ask me.

    I always have been a person that judges people on what they do, not what they say, P45 never backed what he said up with actions, which tells me the problems we faced as fans where a lot of his man made problems, he accepted things, tried to please his bosses, and ended up not really pleasing anyone, only himself. people knocking him for not coming in Jan should be praising him, he did things the right way, he may have failed to get Derby up, but a huge part of that was NUFC,s fault, they made it that much harder for him. he Is a guy I believe is in the mould of SBR.

    give the guy a chance.

    the club are backing him up, a good sweep out with the old coaches, was a great start, appointing a good back room staff is happening, and I believe with the player we are linked with, its going to be exciting times ahead.

    im looking forward to next season already. 🙂

  • 139 Rotonda heights // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:27 PM

    TP

    Saylor can’t keep himself fit though and is nearly 30 now. Is awful in positioning himself and reading the game and turns slower than a tug boat.

    Take off the black and white specs, if he wasn’t a geordie you’d agree he’s an over rated (by himself mostly,) not too bright sicknote.

  • 140 Wandering Geordie // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:28 PM

    Bas Dosts goals

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56h5cGMLuHU

  • 141 hibbit // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:33 PM

    rotonda i take it you haven’t been on many tugs can turn on a sixpence unlike saylor

  • 142 WLtoon // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:34 PM

    @137 WW

    Yeah i guess you,re right about him signing before he buggers off on his trolleys.
    I just hope for once that these are genuine leads that are,nt just made up to appease the fans or fill newspapers.

  • 143 bettyswallocks // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:35 PM

    Rotunda………. Agree about Taylor, all huff puff and bravado.

    Ugh ehiogu was saying this morning that Mc Claren likes a CB with pace, so that’s our lot out.

  • 144 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:36 PM

    Soccer Sauce ?@soccer_sauce · 10m10 minutes ago
    We understand #NUFC officials are in active negotiations with both #QPR and Charlie Austin’s agent.Looking very positive currently

  • 145 WLtoon // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:40 PM

    @144 TFL

    Where do they get their info from?
    is this a genuine source or Fred Bloggs stating his thoughts?

  • 146 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:44 PM

    No idea but they do usually get some right

  • 147 Vask // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:45 PM

    JP

    I think the injury misfortune began when we moved training from Chester-le-Street to Benton. I could be wrong.

  • 148 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:45 PM

    Is McClaren dreaming?
    https://nufcdigest.wordpress.com/2015/06/11/steve-mcclaren-newcastle-can-be-one-of-europes-top-10-clubs/

  • 149 expatmag // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:45 PM

    I wouldnt believe a word printed by the press regarding incoming players until they are standing in the Sports direct tunnel at SJP in a black and white top.

    As for Perez leaving, not thus season.

  • 150 Essex Geordie Bill // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:48 PM

    Been a few things happening since my last post.

    Firstly Steve McLaren, didn’t see that coming!!

    Van Dost, someone already made the point that he was playing in a team that that was laying on loads of chances. I reckon Riviere would probably have scored as many for them. What was Chelsea thinking of letting DeBruyne go?

    On the same theme there are several in our squad that could improve in the same way under the right HC so letting anyone go until Steve has had a chance to assess them would be a daft move.

    But getting the likes of Austin in quickly is also the right thing to do.

    Everyone else had pretty well said it all just wanted to add my two pennorth to the chat.

  • 151 BandB // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:50 PM

    During his “wilderness years” in the 1930’s Churchill warned that Germany posed a huge threat to Britain’s freedom and way of life.
    He was scorned by the appeasement movement as a hot-head.
    Thankfully, the nation came to see that Hitler could not be appeased and stood up to him.
    After the war, none of the appeasers were arrogant or stupid enough to stand up and say: “Where are all you moaners who said the Germans would invade us now, eh?
    Because that would be risible, wouldn’t it?
    If the club is turning over a new leaf, it will be because of pressure from fans who spoke up, and not those would said we should “get used to it.”

  • 152 Essex Geordie Bill // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:55 PM

    I was wondering what the RIP Dracula comment was all about and have just read the news re. Christopher Lee.

    What a great actor he was, there seems to be a lot of my boyhood heroes passing over, guess that come with age1

    RIP Christopher.

  • 153 WLtoon // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:56 PM

    @51

    Or maybe it was just Maclaren telling them how it should be or he,s not interested in the job.

  • 154 WLtoon // Jun 11, 2015 at 2:03 PM

    Im old enough to remember the Hammer House films and Christopher Lee was always the best Count Dracula.
    R.I.P Mr Lee.

    Ron Moody has also died for those who can remember him.
    A great actor too, R.I.P Mr Moody

  • 155 BandB // Jun 11, 2015 at 2:04 PM

    WLToon

    True.
    But he could have given that assurance to McClaren privately at any time and not in his first ever live TV interview as his team faced protests and relegation on the final day of the season.
    Ordinary people can achieve things, you know. It is possible.

  • 156 bettyswallocks // Jun 11, 2015 at 2:04 PM

    BandB”………… Nicely put. I think if we are all honest with ourselves, we have exceeded expectations from the start of AO and HWTF until the present day.

    I know we would all prefer that Ashley left and that was the end goal when the protests began. However as was agreed in the beginning this was the start of a long process and our feelings needed to be heard and awareness raised as a starting point.

    The likes of Ciaran who will only accept Ashley leaving as a positive result of any protests will not want to share the fruits of our labours, but at the start of next season we might have a half decent team and a half decent coaching system.

  • 157 WLtoon // Jun 11, 2015 at 2:14 PM

    @155 BB

    I agree
    I think Ashley knew he had to do something drastic and that was due to fan pressure,which was totally justified.
    I would likr to think also that maclaren aint a yes man and is standing by his ideas and gets what he needs to build a solid foundation for the future and a team to at least hold its own and challenge for a cup or two.
    We dont ask for much.




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