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Huge Surprise – Poll Results – Can McClaren Be Successful?

10:46 pm, Thursday, June 11th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 159 Comments

We put out a poll early today on whether Newcastle fans think Steve McClaren can be successful at Newcastle, given his remit of finishing in the top eight in the Premier League – and trying to win a Cup.

We expected at best the result to be a 50-50 split since our other poll on whether fans wanted Steve as the head coach was not in Steve’s favor, and 70% were against him joining Newcastle.

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Steve McClaren – a good shot of Steve taken yesterday

But surprise, surprise, at the time of writing a massive 87%  think Steve can be successful on Tyneside – that’s a huge surprise to us.

We can only think that Steve with his interviews, down to earth realism and truthfulness has swayed a few fans since there’s

There’s only one vote per reader and only 2,000 votes in to date, and we are trying to get a very large cross-section of fans – so please vote if you haven’t already done so.

Can Steve McClaren Be Successful At Newcastle?

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Tags: Coaching · Head coach · Newcastle News · Poll · Pre-season · Premier League

159 responses so far ↓

  • 1 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:56 PM

    Who exactly has urged this?

  • 2 NezzaNUFC // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:57 PM

  • 3 optimistic prime // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:57 PM

    Can we do this vote after he’s spent the forty quid war chest in the transfer window?

  • 4 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:57 PM

    I think the reason for the results of this poll is because of how SM came across and the enthusiasm he had

  • 5 beermonkey // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:57 PM


    didn’t realise Berahino played and scored as many as he did 45 app 20 goals

    I really cant see us buying both

  • 6 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 10:58 PM

    I know good going be good if we could sign em both tho Beer

  • 7 tartangeordie // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:00 PM

    What is wrong with people? I understand the cynicism behind the regime. Football has been awful. The mag are preaching about how patronising it is for mclaren to finish top 8 and to win a trophy. Yet only a couple of months ago they were quoting the lack of ambition ??? Give the man a chance. Let him see what he can deliver. After 10 matches I’ll agree but I take my boy as a season ticket holder and I want some hope. Join the wave of optimism and just ride it until you fall off. Until then shut up and back the club.

  • 8 Welshie's Sheep // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:00 PM

    Forty quid ur being a bit thrifty Prime

  • 9 sing in the corner // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:02 PM

    Well this sums up football fans, Geordies in particular. Football daft dreamers just waiting to be launched. Can’t believe how much the mood has changed in a few short days. But hell, its infectious!
    Hope springs eternal!
    Maybe things are finally on the up. So far so good, now show me the money Ashley! Get em ‘over the line’ (and I’m not talking about the season ticket holders!)

  • 10 p // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:02 PM

    who do want as our next manager?

    (it’s a forgone conclusion that will be sick of smc in a couple of months)

  • 11 croftus5678 // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:03 PM

    do we have enough squad numbers to go around with all these incoming players ?

  • 12 Average_Contents // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:05 PM

    Woah OP, steady on matey. £40? Where did you get your info? I’ve heard it’s a 10p mix with 1p sweets added on as bonuses 😀

  • 13 Average_Contents // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:06 PM

    Batteries dying. Night fcukfaces 😉

  • 14 croftus5678 // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:09 PM

    jonas / raylor / chucky are numbers out so far and players in that will need numbers are lescalles /darlow / marvaux and maybe vukic/satka/bigi.

    if i’m right we still need a good clear out before we can sign more players !

    sammy/vukic/bigi/good/ober/river/wilo/colo could all d with getting the boot imo.

  • 15 Welshie's Sheep // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:12 PM

    We should have a good clear out too many below par players

  • 16 BlacknWhiteBarmy // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:15 PM

    Unless FatAsh has a change of heart any manager will not succeed here – unless you class EPL survival as success!

  • 17 N1CK06 // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:22 PM

    This poll shows nothing but how easily Newcastle fans can be convinced into thinking we’ve changed for the better before seeing any results or player signings.

    Most of the optimistic people would have answered yes 6 months ago to the question “Can John Carver be successful at Newcastle?”. Of course anyone CAN be successful if they have the right funds to spend, good players and an owner wanting to win.

    A more appropriate and equally unanswerable question would be: Do you think Mike Ashley has changed his ways?

    Regardless of how good McLaren does, we need Ashley’s change to make the club successful. I’m not getting excited just yet, not until I see a team of new ambitious players playing well and winning games. Until then it’s anyone’s guess really.

  • 18 WWSBRD // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:29 PM

    If Austin is a done deal wheres the photo of him in the strip with a signed contract in hand?

  • 19 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:29 PM

    The question was “can he succeed” not ” WILL he succeed”. Two very different questions. I think he CAN, but he will have to be backed.

    If the question was “will he” then i would have said no because i wont trust mash until i see evidence.

    People who think the yes voters are over optomistic and easily led, have not understood the poll question.

  • 20 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:32 PM

    WWSBRD I’m waiting for that too

  • 21 Krul To Be Kind // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:32 PM

    It’s better than it has been in my opinion, I think the general consensus is that because things are moving along and there’s things happening we can start to enjoy again!

  • 22 jimmysmith // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:33 PM

    If Ashley had brought in that striker and CB we’d still have Pards, and from the owners perspective, be on track. It’s ironic that this shake up is more a response to his refusal to stump up, almost as if he’s twisted his own arm. Regardless, McClaren and a complete squad would be a worthwhile outcome after such a rotten campaign.

  • 23 The Great Valerio // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:34 PM

    If you could be a pointless blog headline; which pointless blog headline would you be?

  • 24 Welshie's Sheep // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:34 PM

    Let’s get to Wembley

  • 25 WWSBRD // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:36 PM

    Fingers crossed but am not celebrating yet, I think Berahino is a none starter though. Can see the Spanish lad coming in though with a low release clause and maybe Bas Dost depending on player sales

    Fingers crossed we could have a entirely new offensive line (barring Perez) next season

  • 26 Belfast // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:37 PM

    It would contain Andy Carrolls name for sure.

  • 27 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:38 PM

    sounds like a great idea WWSBRD

  • 28 WWSBRD // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:38 PM

    Also wheres the news on a big ugly bricks**t house CB who dines on raw meat seasoned by the ground up bones of his enemies?

  • 29 Belfast // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:40 PM

    It’s James Chester Wwsbrdxyz

  • 30 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:40 PM

    We do need cb’s apparently SM is a decent defensive coach so you would think he’d get cb”s in

  • 31 Belfast // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:40 PM


  • 32 Welshie's Sheep // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:41 PM

    James Chester? Surely not!!!

  • 33 WWSBRD // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:42 PM

    James Chester? He dines on rabbit and lightly roasted potatoes…..NOT WHO WE NEED

  • 34 Belfast // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:42 PM

    Robert Huth or Shawcross would be a decent start

  • 35 Belfast // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:43 PM

    Chester and Richards the only ones we’re being linked with at the moment

  • 36 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:44 PM

    Well Richards going/gone to villa, don’t think chester is strong enough

  • 37 cornishman // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:46 PM

    Can he bring success? Who knows….I certainly hope so, after all we,ve had a lot of managers since the last trophy, not a lot to live up to really.

  • 38 WWSBRD // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:50 PM

    Nar Shawcross is a all day breakfast kind of man and Richards is on croissants with a latte

    Huth is a possibility, i do like the steely look in his eyes think the age would ruin him signing though

    I want a Yaroslav Rakitskiy kind of fella, man who looks like hes seen (probably done) some questionable things and he cant forget those memories

  • 39 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 11, 2015 at 11:54 PM

    so basically WWSBRD u want a mass murderer or someone of Roman Reigns ilk?

  • 40 Welshie's Sheep // Jun 12, 2015 at 12:01 AM

    Baaa quiet on here tonight

  • 41 WWSBRD // Jun 12, 2015 at 12:02 AM

    Doesnt have to be a mass murderer…maybe just shived a guy in prison for looking at him funny, Id accept that as well but basically yes!

  • 42 WWSBRD // Jun 12, 2015 at 12:02 AM

    In fact bugger it I want Rakitskiy or Dragovic they would just be fantastic

  • 43 Lindisfarne // Jun 12, 2015 at 12:15 AM


    Hence the question, ‘How much money is there to spend?’

  • 44 2_goal_tino // Jun 12, 2015 at 12:15 AM

    The reason for the disparity in poll results is quite simple… they are completely different questions!!!!

    People didn’t want him because they hoped for someone else/someone fresher/someone more exciting

    But preferring another manager doesn’t preclude him from potential success.

    It’s like offering a person a choice between stale bread and fillet steak.Then asking whether they could survive a week just eating stale bread.

  • 45 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 12, 2015 at 12:16 AM

    Dragovic and Nicklas Sule the german defender would be a great partnership

  • 46 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 12, 2015 at 12:17 AM

    Sule is only 19 but what a player

  • 47 WWSBRD // Jun 12, 2015 at 12:22 AM

    Sule looks like Dragovic’s simple younger brother, am sold

  • 48 Lindisfarne // Jun 12, 2015 at 12:22 AM

    The Great Valerio

    “Who will be Christmas shopping in Sports Direct?”

  • 49 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 12, 2015 at 12:23 AM

    haha WWSBRD he’s a take no prisoners kind of defender, seen him play a few times, goona be Germany’s main CB in a couple of years

  • 50 WWSBRD // Jun 12, 2015 at 12:30 AM

    Haha I dont doubt it mate but I bet he struggles to hold composure when he sees a puppy or someone holding his teddy bear

    Right I want 1 of Dragovic or Rakitskiy and 1 of Sule or Jonathan Tah bobs ur uncle we have a sterling defense which strikers would fear

    Anyhoo am off, lets hope for Austin and my new revamped scar-ense all announced tomorrow

  • 51 Canny in Canberra // Jun 12, 2015 at 12:36 AM

    Hey Guys,
    Just googled Mr Dragovic. the first images that came up of him, he had some one by the throat. He’ll spend more time suspended than Tiote, therefore not a good buy. IMO

  • 52 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 12, 2015 at 12:40 AM

    Night WWSBRD

    Hey canny Niklas Sule is the man we need

  • 53 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 12, 2015 at 12:42 AM

    Canny that’s Edin Dzeko that’s got Dragovic by the throat

  • 54 Canny in Canberra // Jun 12, 2015 at 12:44 AM

    Sule Hhmm, Best cheap young CB in FIFA 2015.
    Looks like he plays for a Siberian prison squad. Yeah he’ll do. Think WWBRD would be down with that too.

  • 55 Canny in Canberra // Jun 12, 2015 at 12:45 AM

    Haha Well if he’s soft enough to be letting people grab him by the throat then he’s hardly the man for the job is he?
    Still a no from me.

  • 56 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 12, 2015 at 12:47 AM

    Should some players have a clean slate?

  • 57 Canny in Canberra // Jun 12, 2015 at 12:47 AM

    Wasn’t this Edin kisd getting a few shouts on here a couple of days back? Or is that some one else again. Good me Eh?

  • 58 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 12, 2015 at 12:49 AM

    Yh but he wouldn’t come here in amillion years.
    Seen sule play a few times the kid is sh*t hot

  • 59 shaun__ // Jun 12, 2015 at 12:55 AM

    Well Ed, perhaps you should have asked ‘will he be’, of course he can be. Or even asked whether pleased with appointment

  • 60 lesh // Jun 12, 2015 at 1:10 AM


    Why should some players have a clean slate?

    It’s all about motivating the current crop of players.

    Some of them will have had the benefit of previous coaches and as such, will have been feeling thoroughly pi$$ed off – hence ‘injuries’ or injuries.

    He’s going to assess them from scratch as part of reviewing why we always have so many sidelined.

    The important thing is to read McLaren’s words, think about them and compare them with the drivel that’s come out of SJP in the past – notably the recent past!

  • 61 Lindisfarne // Jun 12, 2015 at 1:13 AM

    “”Mark Jensen, editor of the long-running fanzine The Mag, told Sportsmail: ‘All of this talk about Europe and winning cups is patronising unless the words are backed up with actions, which I doubt will happen.
    ‘We’ve been here with every new manager and nothing ever changes. ‘This is a club which was one match away from the Championship – now we’re talking about the top 10 in Europe, it’s deluded.””
    from the Daily Mail

  • 62 Canny in Canberra // Jun 12, 2015 at 1:13 AM

    What I take him to mean by clean slate is that old grudges brought on by them voicing unpopular opinions will not be taken into account by him. He’s gonna base his opinions on what he sees rather than what hes told by others.

  • 63 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 12, 2015 at 1:16 AM

    Daily mail dull of sh*t
    I do get that Lesh but some need to be moved on

  • 64 Canny in Canberra // Jun 12, 2015 at 1:16 AM

    OMG – If we complain we are ungrateful and impatient.
    When we rally and show some positive support we’re delude.
    Ya can’t win with these clowns

  • 65 Canny in Canberra // Jun 12, 2015 at 1:16 AM


  • 66 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 12, 2015 at 1:20 AM

    It’s the press they have really turned on us since yesterday, The Sun didn’t even mention McClaren’s appointment more about them not being there!

  • 67 Canny in Canberra // Jun 12, 2015 at 1:28 AM

    They haven’t turned on us as much as they having a little dummy spit about Ashley. Par for the course. Meh!

  • 68 lesh // Jun 12, 2015 at 1:32 AM


    Of course some players’ll go but I think McLaren wants to make his own mind up. It may be that some them have had potential unrealised, the result of bad coaching?

    Anyway, having read a couple of Chronicle articles and interviews with McLaren, who could deny that he’s refreshing and seems to know what he’s up to. Unlike some we’ve been blessed with.

  • 69 expatmag // Jun 12, 2015 at 1:33 AM


    As far as I am concerned, I am more than happy for a clean slate across the whole board and that includes Ashley and Co. as long as they back up their words with actions.

    Too many people on here tend to hold grudges for eternity and either rightly or wrongly, whichever side you support, if they display these actions, then the past should be left very firmly there.

    I fail to see where more mass Ashley out protests will go especially as he has personally confirmed he is staying for the long haul. So, we might as well get behind the changes.

    McLaren is a quality coach and the fact the majority of the previous regime has gone shows actions have already started.

    Some deadwood has been released with more to come and substantial funds have allegedly been promised.

    I am prepared to see what happens come the end of the transfer window. If we have a decent pre season and start the season well after the club support the head coach by appointing his prefrrred staff and getting the players in we need, then I am prepared to let the past go. As long as the club remain progressive.

  • 70 lesh // Jun 12, 2015 at 1:36 AM

    But the Guardian, which was also not invited to the party, did a couple of comprehensive articles about McLaren and his appointment.

    The press won’t turn on the club, it’ll be the usual ones which think they’ve a right to be at every top-table in football, that’ve thrown their toys out of their prams.

  • 71 Lindisfarne // Jun 12, 2015 at 1:43 AM

    Juami seems like he maybe a one club player, not as prolific as Perez in the 2nd div and playing his best for his home town club.

  • 72 lesh // Jun 12, 2015 at 1:43 AM


    Good post.

    Is there any way you could persuade Dr Ed to tweak the software so that it (your post that is) appears regularly on certain, grudging posters’ screen?

  • 73 N1CK06 // Jun 12, 2015 at 1:51 AM

    In the same direction you could also ask “Can pigs become able to fly?”

    Of course naturally people would say no. But you could also have the line of thinking where laws of physics could possibly change tomorrow causing gravity to be lower and pigs would be capable of flying.

    So in other word yes, Mclaren can be successful at Newcastle… but without any drastic changes from Ashley he has a snowballs chance in hell.

  • 74 Lindisfarne // Jun 12, 2015 at 1:52 AM

    The best young things in Spain:

    Gaya – full back
    Jonny – centre back
    Suarez – midfield

  • 75 Canny in Canberra // Jun 12, 2015 at 1:54 AM

    The Guardian obviously has a bit more class!!

  • 76 expatmag // Jun 12, 2015 at 1:56 AM


    Thanks. To be honest, it is all basically common sense. I dont blame people for being suspicious going on past experiences but despite the obvious conspiracy theories over his television appearance, Ashley left himself very open to criticism if he fails to live up to his words.

    I also feel the situation at Rangers is impacting on his more committed approach to Newcastle. If he had gained control of the boardroom there, I feel he would have directed most of his energies into selling us and buying them lock stock and barrel.

    As he failed, he is now asking for his 5m pound loan back and whilst he will maintain an interest up there, he seems to have reverted back to us as his major interest.

    I am prepared to give him the time and already, he has lived up to some if his promises. Now he needs to spend and spend big. One way or another, we will know by 1st September.

  • 77 Welshie's Sheep // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:02 AM

    To be hoped the whole squad gets revamped and McClaren gets the team playing proper football

  • 78 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:04 AM

    True Lesh SM seems to know what he wants and what needs doing plus he seems very passionate

  • 79 Our Toon // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:04 AM


    I look at things slightly differently but respect your view on this, nothing has changed here really has it. We went after the same bloke we were chasing in January. It’s good we have McClaren on board could have done better but won’t complain.

    Sammy got a new contract how that happened I will never know, Abeid is transfer listed, Ashley came out and said what he said so we wouldn’t protest…..don’t forget January 2014 the club released a statement to say he won’t consider selling until the end of 2015/16 season…..18 months later after protests he apparently won’t sell. I personally hear nothing but bullshit. We recently couldn’t afford Andre Ayew, a free transfer because he was to expensive….30k a week was to much!!

    Realistically a club like ours shouldn’t be looking to loan the likes of Ginkel or even Bamford. It seems as if British is the policy and some of the names are god awful like Chester, only time will tell. Until I actually see some change at the club nothing has swayed my initial opinions of the man or this regime. Empty promises is all you have had, lies is all you’ve been told, when that 1st game kicks off I sincerely hope we have more than he the 6 players that we are reported to be targeting. He’s now no longer on the board….basically taking himself out of the firing line in case things go belly up.

    I personally think we need a minimum of 2 CB’s a FB, a DM, 2 Wingers and at least 2 CF’s…..that’s a bare minimum!! That’s how far back he’s put us with his mismanagement, we won’t get that though. Let’s see some action first then the protests should stop.

  • 80 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:05 AM

    Women’s match suspended after a few minutes due to Lightning

  • 81 toonicle // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:06 AM

    Anybody seen much of Lascalles? Can he be a starter or will he need a year or two?

  • 82 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:07 AM

    I agree with your summary Our Toon those are the minimum players we need

  • 83 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:07 AM

    Needs a year or so I’d say Toonicle

  • 84 expatmag // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:09 AM

    6 quality players in should be enough.

    We already have Darlow and Lascelles and I would like to see how Mclaren approaches the enigma that is Vuckic, with his reputation fir his work with young players.

    Austin, Van Dijk, Trippier, Hughes, Wijnaldum and another decent centre back would be great.

    Time up for Gouffran Obertan Williamson Marveaux.

  • 85 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:09 AM

    Never seen a stadium cleared because of bad weather before!!

  • 86 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:10 AM

    wxpat our squad is threadbare, we need 8-10 minimum

  • 87 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:11 AM

    ex pat Vuckic has been released hasn’t he?

  • 88 toonicle // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:12 AM

    Van Dijk should be top of the list, too good for that league and would be able to walk into a starting spot.

  • 89 expatmag // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:16 AM

    Our Toon

    Fair comments and every right to angry and suspicious but maybe I am more a glass half full bloke and feel the worm is turning.

    Lets be honest. Ashley has no choice really because we have been a huge mess.

    At least now, he has appointed real football directors, a very good experienced coach, got rid of the stagnant coaching staff and appears ready to spend money now.

    I would say we are better off today than what we were as the final whistle blew against West Ham.

    Of course, it can get a whole lot better yet.

  • 90 expatmag // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:18 AM


    No. He was loaned to Rangers and has returned like Ferguson.

    Both players have a year remaining on their contracts.

  • 91 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:22 AM

    ah right ty expat

  • 92 Canny in Canberra // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:25 AM

    What happen to that Aussie kid? Whats his situation?

  • 93 Canny in Canberra // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:27 AM

    Is that the same Fergusson that came on couple seasons ago. Nifty little winger? Or no?

  • 94 Our Toon // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:27 AM


    I don’t think he has appointed good people onto the board, Moncur is a dinosaur the guy is utterly clueless and only got the role because he’s a brown nose only reason he got the job, if Ashley was serious we’d have appointed someone from the continent to be Director of football. Beardsley is another one who hasn’t really achieved much outside of being a player here, McClaren got on the board so he can have a say on transfers. Charnley is a joker.

    Like I say he hasn’t changed anything yet I’m intrigued though to see just what happens buddy. As for Vuckic I wouldn’t read to much into his loan to Rangers, that league was so poor it was unbelievable, listen to what his national manager said about th standard of the league…..They went on to lose to motherwell as well. Division 1 standard football at best. He was on loan at Rotherham and couldn’t get a kick because he’s so poor. Shame as I thought when he signed him all them years ago that he’d be a very good player…..Beardsley put in the bulk of time with him, underwhelming to say the least.

  • 95 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:28 AM

    Curtis Good?
    Didn’t look like he was much cop, depends what SM thinks of him

  • 96 Canny in Canberra // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:29 AM

    He’s only young to have had so much time out to injury. not a good sign. Might have lost any spark he had with all this down time.

  • 97 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:31 AM

    One rag name of which escapes me said Haris Vuckic is being chased by Nowich and Bournemouth used quotes like “the teenager” & the “19 year old”
    He’s 22 ffs

  • 98 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:33 AM

    Our Toon same when he was on loan at Cardiff he was piss poor

  • 99 Our Toon // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:34 AM

    Look at how Jonas was told by the club he wasn’t getting a new deal, via Raylor’s mobile, that’s why I remain suspicious, they were 2 employees of the club we aren’t even that.

    I’m glad carver is gone along with stone though that’s a good move, imagine if Carver had won 2 more games….he’d be the manager now and not McClaren.

  • 100 Sydney Toon // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:41 AM

    So news overnight, I am just catching up, is that we are in for Richards, Austin, Carroll and Berahino. Therefore, we foresee Armstrong being sent out on loan, Ayoze becoming a rotation option between wing and striker, Williamson, Cisse along with Riviere being sold… Im all up for that!

  • 101 Sydney Toon // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:44 AM

    Curtis Good will get a year to impress, last year of his deal. Injury plagued the season just passed and year before he excelled at Bradford. Possible loan spell to St Mirren would be expected

  • 102 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:46 AM

    Sydney Richards has gone to Villa

  • 103 expatmag // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:50 AM

    Our Toon

    Yes. I agree that there have been unfortunate mistakes and that communication is a joke but I am still hopeful that the times are changing.

    To be honest, McLaren is the best coach we have appointed since SBR and being on the so called football directors board will only bring a semblance of sanity to football matters decision making processes.

    As for Moncur. Well, lets just say that I would rather trust his opinion on football than an accountant like Irving.

  • 104 expatmag // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:54 AM


    There will always be press speculation about us and 99% of the time, it is way off.

    I cannot see us buying both Austin and Bershino. It was cost us virtually all our budget and we desperatrly need a couple of quality central defenders.

  • 105 Canny in Canberra // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:54 AM

    Think some one said further up that Richards is going to Villa.

  • 106 Canny in Canberra // Jun 12, 2015 at 2:56 AM

    You all just blanked me yesterday when I said we should go for the Dutch back line. Obviously nobody agreed but I’m sticking to it as one hell of a defensive plan.

  • 107 expatmag // Jun 12, 2015 at 3:06 AM


    I think Good has a very debilitating injury and seriously doubt whether he us up to the task of premiership football. I expect to see him back in the A league in a season or two.

    Richards hasnt signed for Villa yet but it is expected he will.


    Blank you!!!!!!!….. I would never consider such a notion against the only real amazon of the blog…..our very own Wonder Woman……lol

    Your idea has merit and time will tell if practiceable.

  • 108 Our Toon // Jun 12, 2015 at 3:09 AM


    Agreed on McClaren, the more I hear from those in the game the better I feel about his appointment.

    I hope your optimism is our reality rather than my pessimism buddy

  • 109 expatmag // Jun 12, 2015 at 3:23 AM

    Our Toon

    Lets hope so, mate. Time will tell but so far, the club is Pardewless, Carverless and stoneless which is at least, a pointer in the right direction.

  • 110 Canny in Canberra // Jun 12, 2015 at 3:25 AM

    Oh dear, did you and B fall out again?

  • 111 Canny in Canberra // Jun 12, 2015 at 3:27 AM

    Not sure Stoneless is the way to go. Far too many performances last year where a greater possession of “Stones” was required!!

  • 112 swemag // Jun 12, 2015 at 3:30 AM

    Amazing how some posters just disappear when there is a positive mood on this blog.

  • 113 expatmag // Jun 12, 2015 at 3:31 AM


    Not at all. She doesnt have those , eerrr, shall we say, colonial assets endowed upon your good self, my dear.

    Take that whichever way you wish ……

  • 114 Blofal // Jun 12, 2015 at 3:33 AM

    I am cautiously optimistic about this coming season.

    If we truly are after both Berahino and Austin then that itself is a big statement.

    If you want to win games you have to score goals and for the majority of our season we were playing Perez up front as lone striker when he is actually a natural attacking midfielder.

    Cisse offers nothing in build up play and Riviere has all the makings of a good striker except that he can’t score! So two new established and proven strikers is a very good start if it happens.

  • 115 expatmag // Jun 12, 2015 at 3:33 AM


    Lmao…….I meant Steve Stoneless,

    You have me in tears here

  • 116 expatmag // Jun 12, 2015 at 3:34 AM


    Usually the case mate.

  • 117 expatmag // Jun 12, 2015 at 3:38 AM


    You could only play Austin and Berahino in a 442 system and this is not McLarens preferred set up.

    I think Austin is necessary or Dost but not Berahino. Perez is similar to him.

    I see us playing a 433 or 4231 system with Austin/Dost up top, De Jong in behind in the 10 role, Aarons/Riviere wide left, Sissoko/Perez wide right.

  • 118 Our Toon // Jun 12, 2015 at 3:40 AM


    Cisse may not offer much in build up play but imagine what he’d be like in a more attacking team. 11 league goals from a player that rarely started last season, that’s 3 behind Berahino and 7 behind Austin….however when you consider Berahino scored 3 pens and Austin scored 4 pens then from open play Cisse was more affective.

    Better mins to goal ratio than both players and he did all that with 1 knee as the other 1 was dodgy for the whole season!!

  • 119 Our Toon // Jun 12, 2015 at 3:43 AM

    Who would you rather take, Bas Dost or Austin?

    I’d take Bas Dost, I think Austin is decent but overhyped because he’s British!!

  • 120 Blofal // Jun 12, 2015 at 3:52 AM

    Expat I think you’re right about that setup. Especially Sissoko. Everyone claims he is a box to box midfielder but for us he has been most damaging storming down the right.

    I assumed if we had both Austin and Berahino they would be fighting for a starting place or playing 2 up only if we are going for it late in a game. To me it would be a sign that we are strengthening the squad rather than just the first team with proven players. I hope its true but I don’t think it will happen to be brutally honest.

    If we are going for a cup win then we need more than one striker that’s for sure.

  • 121 expatmag // Jun 12, 2015 at 4:00 AM


    I doubt Austin nor Berahino would settle for rotation and extended bench periods at Newcastle. Both players may accept that at a CL club but we are not there…..Yet. Both players have England ambitions and bench warming will affect that.

    Cisse is now 30 and probably on the way down. I think it is right to sell him while we can get significant money for him.

    I couldnt chose between Austin and Dost as I dont know enough about them.

  • 122 swemag // Jun 12, 2015 at 5:08 AM

    It seems they have a lot of irons in the fire to make sure not all fall through and that we actually get players in.
    Again, change of strategy.

  • 123 Canny in Canberra // Jun 12, 2015 at 5:09 AM

    If we are talking cups and Europe then we need a deeper squad across the board. Remember the last disastrous Europe foray?
    Since you’ve never seen me your comments are based on fictitious delusion.
    I only went for me lunch break. Back now and positive that you’re all nuts. 🙂

  • 124 swemag // Jun 12, 2015 at 5:17 AM

    Reports saying Austin deal is done sounds contrary to what I heard where there are some issues regarding wages.

    The Richards deal seems to be falling through on that as well.

    Well well, still staying positive.

  • 125 Canny in Canberra // Jun 12, 2015 at 5:24 AM

    No reason based on that to not still stay positive. Things are improving at our club. Won’t be long now and players will be beating a path to the doors at SJP and the likes of Austin and Richards will be lucky to get a second glance. Too positive?

  • 126 expatmag // Jun 12, 2015 at 5:25 AM


    Imagination is a wonderful thing. Something we, as Newcastle supporters, are well used too……lol

  • 127 Canny in Canberra // Jun 12, 2015 at 5:27 AM

    True but delusional could be the word for that aswell!!

  • 128 expatmag // Jun 12, 2015 at 5:28 AM


    I would have thought there would also issues with transfer fees knowing the situation QPR find themselves in.

    On Richards….I wouldnt be too concerned on missing out on him. There is much better out there.

  • 129 expatmag // Jun 12, 2015 at 5:30 AM


    Absolutely spot on. I once dreamt we won the treble and I was Head Coach……

    Only to be sacked and replaced by Carver…….lol

  • 130 expatmag // Jun 12, 2015 at 5:32 AM

    Hinny……re post 125

    Very positive…….to the point of total delusion

  • 131 Chris // Jun 12, 2015 at 5:42 AM

    I think Good has a very debilitating injury and seriously doubt whether he us up to the task of premiership football..”

    From what I can make out he’s got something called a hip impingement

    This is what he was quoted as saying last year after he picked up the injury that prevented him from playing in the World Cup:

    “At this stage surgery is likely, I think I would miss 8-12 weeks.

    “It’s two injuries in one. The muscle strain – a grade two tear – and an underlying problem with the hip joint.

    “I couldn’t tell you if it’s a pre-existing problem but I’ve heard the hip impingement is quite common”
    Source: Herald Sun (Melbourne)
    May 27, 2014

    I had never heard of hip impingement before but it looks like it’s quite a common problem with sportsmen:

    The article mentions an orthopedic surgeon called Dr. Marc J. Philippon – a partner at the Steadman Clinic in Vail, Colorado, which is where Curtis Good went for a (second?) operation in February. Apparently it was Dr Philippon who operated on Shola’s hip back in 2006 and effectively saved his career, so hopefully he’s managed to do the same for Curtis.

  • 132 ilovetoon8788 // Jun 12, 2015 at 5:45 AM

    We need 2 new strikers 2 new centre backs 1 winger and 2-3 players for squad depth purposes.

    And all this to catch up with the 10th place. If we don’t get these amount of players and mediocre season looms and I won’t blame mcclaren if he fails.

    I’ll wait and see until September.

  • 133 Canny in Canberra // Jun 12, 2015 at 5:47 AM

    Curtis being a lot younger would surely improve his rehabilitation chances. Hopefully he can come good be a shame to go out like that after showing so much promise. Poor Kid.

  • 134 nufc 11 // Jun 12, 2015 at 6:16 AM

    Like to see Tony Adams or sol Campbell getting number 2 role

  • 135 Canny in Canberra // Jun 12, 2015 at 6:18 AM

    NUFC 11
    I’d like to see their former selves of years ago in the back line!

  • 136 lochinvar // Jun 12, 2015 at 6:25 AM

    Apart from the cash in the bank from previous sales of players and the new TV money I suspect the next source of revenue is some silly money from Russia or the Middle East for the sale of Cisse – allowing him a pay day in the snow or sun. Add that to the pot accumulated then buying Austin and others becomes an easier process.

  • 137 N1CK06 // Jun 12, 2015 at 6:26 AM

    ilovetoon @132,

    exactly, and to this date we have not signed even one of those desparately needed players..

    all that is changed is a new manager who came from being sacked in the championship, and some words from Ashley that may be truthful or may be complete lies to shut up the protests.

    I dont get why people are suddenly so positive when really very little action has actually been taken. I think the best I can feel at present is neutral. Any happiness I feel from carvers sacking is cancelled out by the high probability scenario that Ashley continues running his business exactly as the last 8 years and we remain mid-lower table in threat of relegation

  • 138 bobby mango // Jun 12, 2015 at 6:45 AM

    This was the most pointless poll. If you had another saying “can he fail” the results would be the same. It’s just asking if something is possible, not whether it will happen. Also what is success?

    If it had said “will he win a cup within the next three years” it would’ve been a better gauge of optimism.

    Still I am feeling more optimistic. People saying not much has changed and I’ll say “Carver has gone”
    That’s a massive positive to me. It’s a sign of intent from Maclaren that he wants to run the team his way.
    The board reshuffle sounds better (but not an amazing act), still it suggests the team will be thought about more when it comes to transfers

    The real test will be who will bring in and the next few weeks will tell. As always I won’t believe a signing until I see them in the kit. But I’d rather go into this period feeling as I do now than I did two weeks ago.

  • 139 Canny in Canberra // Jun 12, 2015 at 6:50 AM

    I just can’t wait for the season to start and we can find out one way or another. Still shall persist in the positive until then because I’m enjoying this too much to give it up yet.

  • 140 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jun 12, 2015 at 6:55 AM

    Some of you are too high and mighty! Be careful you don’t fall on your own sword 😉

    …hubris is a nasty thing…with it comes nemesis

    Lets see some real changes first shall we.

  • 141 firebug666 // Jun 12, 2015 at 6:59 AM

    I guess people like myself are starting to feel more positive, or optimistic simply because the promised changes are looking like reality.

    We are linked with some good players, Carver and Stone are gone, Watson has been demoted to the under 18s, and McClaren has been saying some really good and positive stuff.

    These are big issues that have been addressed, and most is what the fans wanted.

    Like Canny I will retain this positive feeling, and hope all that has been promised comes to pass.

    This in no way changes my opinion of Ashley, or Charnley, as I still think they are not good for the club, and never will be in my opinion, and under this regime one cannot help feeling that the wheels are about to come off.

  • 142 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jun 12, 2015 at 7:07 AM

    firebug…lets see those changes first shall we I think we have the right, without being ridiculed, to ask that much!

    …there where nothing great in the signing of SM in itself. Carver leaving was inevitable but what is Charmless still doing here?

    To me everything surrounding Newcastle are just promises…nothing have been delivered yet (and that’s hoe it’s been for ages)

  • 143 catchy in norway // Jun 12, 2015 at 7:07 AM


    don’t you think there have been real changes ?

    a new footballing manager
    the old coaches that were the problem have gone.
    the coaches SM looks like he is brining in are top coaches.
    the board is now a footballing board with SM on it also, which means he has a say in transfer targets and the direction of the club.
    Charlie Austin is not a NUFC player yet, but looks a done deal,
    all positive steps forward in my book

  • 144 firebug666 // Jun 12, 2015 at 7:08 AM

    Will the Mirror newspaper be getting banned for running a done deal story for Austin before the club have announced anything? Remembering NUST being banned from the fans forum for publishing the minutes of the meeting before NUFC.

    Or as “preferred” partners will this be a case of double standards from the club? After all the Mirror pay for the privilege of inside access.

  • 145 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jun 12, 2015 at 7:11 AM

    Catchy…untill now there had been no real changes. The appointment of SM was a bit of a key down to be honest;

    Everything else until now had been inevitable.

  • 146 catchy in norway // Jun 12, 2015 at 7:14 AM

    repost from yesterday

    catchy in norway // Jun 11, 2015 at 1:26 PM

    got to say , I mentioned 2 names on here way back in September I would like to see at NUFC, Steve mac and Karanka ,

    me personally , I don’t really care what others think about him, I judged him on what he has done with footballers, not with what he looks like with a brolly or the clubs he has apparently failed at.

    reading all the good things top pros that have been critical about us in recent years say this is a good move must mean something good,

    the good things he has done in football far outweigh the bad things, and what I find totally bizarre about this whole thing is why people chose to ignore history, they accepted P45 and gave him a chance, yet everything he has ever done tells you he is a dud a parasite. his greatest achievement is scoring vrs Liverpool.
    McC has been a treble winner with Man U, A cup winner wit boro, a league winner with Twente, not to shabby if you ask me.

    I always have been a person that judges people on what they do, not what they say, P45 never backed what he said up with actions, which tells me the problems we faced as fans where a lot of his man made problems, he accepted things, tried to please his bosses, and ended up not really pleasing anyone, only himself. people knocking him for not coming in Jan should be praising him, he did things the right way, he may have failed to get Derby up, but a huge part of that was NUFC,s fault, they made it that much harder for him. he Is a guy I believe is in the mould of SBR.

    give the guy a chance.

    the club are backing him up, a good sweep out with the old coaches, was a great start, appointing a good back room staff is happening, and I believe with the player we are linked with, its going to be exciting times ahead.

    im looking forward to next season already. 🙂

  • 147 firebug666 // Jun 12, 2015 at 7:17 AM


    There is nothing else to do but wait and see at the moment, but I would say that this is defiantly a new page in the history of Newcastle, and if McClaren gets his wish and brings in some quality players, whilst sorting out the problems with the existing squad, then it is also up to the fans to give him a fair chance, get behind the team and coaching staff with a positive atmosphere.

    Mike Ashley and Lee Charnley are excluded from my positive thoughts as I will always believe that the only positive thing they could do for our club is LEAVE!

  • 148 catchy in norway // Jun 12, 2015 at 7:18 AM


    I don’t see the moves as inevitable, our biggest fear was that charver was staying on.

    positive changes have been made

  • 149 firebug666 // Jun 12, 2015 at 7:22 AM

    McClared wants his backroom staff in by Monday according to the Chronicle.

  • 150 expatmag // Jun 12, 2015 at 7:31 AM


    Why dont you name the so called high and mighty, mate?

    I would be very interested to read who and why and hopefully you will allow the right of a reasoned reply.

  • 151 Magpie Season // Jun 12, 2015 at 7:45 AM

    There’s certainly no rumours of any fulminations after McClaren’s appointment, towards the man himself or the regime, compared to previous appointments. This is good, because the actuality is he is an best of the bunch from the Ashley era, & I am including Keegan, to work under the circumstances.

  • 152 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jun 12, 2015 at 7:48 AM

    Catchy…with relegation almost happening and the mission statement from Ashley meant something had to change…or else his words was just static!

    …either Carver or Charmless had to go – preferably both!

    There is nothing exiting about the appointment of SM it’s actually a bit of a let down. They had the opportunity go go a different direction I think, but stayed on course.

    It suggests to me that Ashley doesn’t think it was because them (the board we failed).

    The new board (or is it really a new board ;)) suddenly have our manager on it. Does that mean SM like his predecessors will be the mouthpiece of the board now that he is the board?

    I don’t know what to think right now. I am hardly impressed as of yet.

  • 153 magpie6699 // Jun 12, 2015 at 7:50 AM

    Not going to be persuaded about a “done deal” for Austin. Done deals are only done deals when they’re actually a done deal! It would be good to see a striker with a bit of strength for others (Perez, Cisse?) to feed off though.

  • 154 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jun 12, 2015 at 7:51 AM

    Expat…I don’t see the point in naming names just as those in question didn’t feel it was important to put a name to those they were ridiculing!

  • 155 John Tudor // Jun 12, 2015 at 7:53 AM

    will he do a forest 8 weeks in

  • 156 Magpie Season // Jun 12, 2015 at 7:56 AM


    I only believe it when I see the photo of the player holding the jersey & shaking hands with the manager.

    Deals can fall through because of number of reasons, such as failed medical. Which is how we got Marveuax from Liverpool’s hands, as did Chelsea when they snatched Remy from Liverpool.

  • 157 Magpie Season // Jun 12, 2015 at 8:09 AM

    Just been skimming through comments. Is there still hope for Curtis Good to come through, even though Streete was released?

    Lived in Australia for a long time & have never watched an A-League match. I did see the friendly with Chelsea, Juventus & David Beckham’s galaxy. Based on my viewings from that, Mike Williamson would look like Fabio Cannavarro in A- League.

    Even if he overcame injuries to make the squad, I wouldn’t get excited like a Boumsong.

  • 158 N1CK06 // Jun 12, 2015 at 8:11 AM


    Completely agree. The words from Ashley and the actions taken until now appears sufficient enough to convince many overly optimistic or gullible fans to buy new season tickets and merchandise.. yet still Ashley has not done anything out of the ordinary.. no big spendings, no change from SD and Wonga sponsorship, and Charnley is still making the footballing decisions under strict financial control.

    until next season is well underway we have no way of telling if these actions are intented to maintain profit by keeping fans interested, or to actually improve the football club

  • 159 solano38 // Jun 12, 2015 at 8:14 AM

    From a communication point of view, it’s obvious SM is in a different league from his two predecessors. Let’s hope he can deliver the goods!

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