Pardew – Crystal Palace Can Now Challenge Newcastle


There are probably two main reasons why Alan Pardew left Newcastle in late December – the first one being he was told Newcastle would not be spending any money in the January transfer window to strengthen what was already a weak squad.

The second was that he was getting increasingly frustrated that he didn’t have enough say on who would be coming into the club, with the main man on that being Chief Scout Graham Carr – who holds some significant power at Newcastle.

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Alan Pardew at Newcastle with John Carver
Both have now left the club

It was surprising that Pardew left for a smaller club like Crystal Palace, but he is revered there by the fans because of his  career there as a player.

Alan famously scored the winning goal for Palace in extra time in the 1990 semi-final against Liverpool, which they won 4-3 to take them to Wembley.

And they drew 3-3 with Manchester United in the final with Palace’s Ian Wright equalizing in the 92nd minute, before losing the replay 1-0.

Alan Pardew has even said Palace can now challenge the likes of Newcastle United in the transfer market:

“We could challenge Newcastle, Aston Villa, Everton and maybe even Spurs. While we cannot compete with some of those clubs in terms of budgets, we can look to attract the kind of players they are also in the market for.”

“If we could add that kind of quality of player to this current group, then we have a chance to push on.”  “You have to have tactical plans to get a deal over the line.”

“I have to be involved in negotiations because players have to buy into me and what I want from them if they join my club, so all managers need to be fully involved in transfers, that’s for sure.”

That last paragraph is probably born of his frustration at Newcastle during the transfer windows.

Pardew could have also been assured by Palace Chairman Steve Parish before he joined, that he would have more say in the transfers into the club.

It’s also possible that Alan was promised some substantial transfer funds this summer – and it looks like that’s happening – especially after they finished 10th in the Premier League last season and five places and 9 points above Newcastle.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.


140 comments so far

  • John Tudor

    Jun 16, 2015 at 9:33 AM

    Comment #1

    i see season ticket sales going well
    NOT

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  • mickalfas

    Jun 16, 2015 at 9:43 AM

    Comment #2

    Hate to admit it but the the more he says the more I like him as a man
    Jumping ship ,he possibly has a bit of principles about him
    Love it if he told all about the junta
    Still glad he fcuked off,don’t get me wrong

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  • midweek weekend

    Jun 16, 2015 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #3

    Soccer Sauce ?@soccer_sauce
    We understand #NUFC officials are meeting directly with Charlie Austin and his agent today

    Can’t see us paying the asking price

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jun 16, 2015 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #4

    mickalfas,
    If he had principles he would have jumped ship when his stock was high after they sh1t on him after finishing fifth. Instead he took an eight year contract which he’d still be in if Palace hadn’t offered him a way out.

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  • lesh

    Jun 16, 2015 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #5

    JT

    ST ticket sales’ll doubtless pick up when decent players come in.

    However, there’s always the high risk that decent players’ll be sold when that happens.

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  • lesh

    Jun 16, 2015 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #6

    Midweek

    I can’t see Austin’s asking price being the problem – it’ll be the terms he’s offered and that’s where we fall down.

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  • John Tudor

    Jun 16, 2015 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #7

    my mates map said he could have any seat any where

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  • mickalfas

    Jun 16, 2015 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #8

    Jail
    Very true !

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  • 1949BH PROUDTOBEAGEORDIE

    Jun 16, 2015 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #9

    re bonus scheme current betting odds at coral top 10 =2/1 european qualifing 6/1 relegation 11/2.

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  • jayphoto

    Jun 16, 2015 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #10

    Not seen enough of Austin to judge but hes scored alot of goals everywhere and every level hes been. At 25, and being English surely if he has 2 good years in his next move he could double in value?
    Personally I prefer Berahino in ability and attributes but Austin seems to have the right attitude. Austin and Dost both are similar to Cisse in the fact they largely rely on others to create their chances. Im not entirely sure in the right set up a fit Cisse might’nt score more goals than either

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  • midweek weekend

    Jun 16, 2015 at 9:54 AM

    Comment #11

    @lesh

    Can you really see us paying say 15 million for him ,not saying he’s worth that but surely anything under 10 million would be a complete steal.

    Hopefully we can get him over the dreaded line cause it’ll be just the type of player we need

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  • lochinvar

    Jun 16, 2015 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #12

    Well Pardew you talk the talk , why not sign Carver and Stone to help you walk the walk.
    Thought not.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jun 16, 2015 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #13

    Rotonda,
    Van Ginkel, the Dutch Chelsea player who was on loan at AC Milan last season. We have been linked with him on loan, with one outlets reporting it was pretty much agreed.

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  • Jib

    Jun 16, 2015 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #14

    Season ticket renewals are at the bottom of most peoples agenda in Summer when there are holidays to be paid for.
    As soon as we appear on TV playing in the States and then pre-season in the UK kicks in and the weather turns shite they’ll pick up.
    Have to say if you have a bit of spare dosh now is the time to get one.

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  • mickalfas

    Jun 16, 2015 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #15

    Lochinvar
    Why not Riviere, gouff and obertan as well

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  • jayphoto

    Jun 16, 2015 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #16

    @1949
    2/1 for top 10 is a really decent bet I think.
    Reckon West Ham will have a testing season with europe and lots of changes, Stoke need an overhaul as have too many players a year older, think Palace will be on the wrongside of Pardews dead cat bounce and Gary monk is going into that difficult second season where many managers struggle.
    I expect newcastle to come 9th! With investment, we actually have better players than the sides around top 10 (when they can be bothered)
    If they stay fit and motivated krul, Janmaat, Tiote, De Jong and Cisse are probably champions league level players and Anita, Colback, cabella, Perez and Haidara can also be very good players!
    When he plays alongside a good centreback Colo can be worldclass but needs pace alongside him

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  • jayphoto

    Jun 16, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #17

    Van Ginkel would be our best player if he stayed fit! He looked a powerhouse at the end of last season for Milan!
    Personally think McClaren is going to go 4-3-3 and id take a guess Sissoko, DeJong and Tiote will be the starters when fit with Colback and anita competing too. We also have Vuckic and Cabella who prefer central role! Doubt unless one of those leaves wel sign a centremid on loan as theres too much competition ? Can see us taking Matip because he can pla centreback or defensive centre mid.
    The investment really needs to go on 2 centrebacks, 2 centre forwards and 2 wingers.

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  • John Tudor

    Jun 16, 2015 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #18

    ahh i see infinite words of wisdom
    ill get one for the HEED then

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Jun 16, 2015 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #19

    Pardew…maybe you can attract the best coach in the world while you’re at it 😉

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  • jayphoto

    Jun 16, 2015 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #20

    That line about ‘players buying into me’. Think that definately links to his time at newcastle. Don’t think a few of Carrs buys bought into Pardew! Cabella, Ben Arfa, Yanga-Mbiwa to mention a few! Not entirely sure Cisse did either!
    Interesting rumour that im making up but sounds likely but Demba Ba to Palace! wants to cone back to London, burnt bridges with West Ham, only really palace or Spurs he could go and Pardew loved him as a player to the detriment of papiss

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  • Ron Knee

    Jun 16, 2015 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #21

    Could the Board get away with the following:
    – Ditch a couple of players unpopular with supporters (eg Williamson and Obertan).
    – Keep Janmaat and Sissoko (We had really good offers for them but managed to fight off Arsenal, Chelsea, etc.).
    – Trumpet the arrival of the Forest Two.
    – Hail the return to fitness of Aarons and SDJ.
    – Buy a couple of cheapish players.
    – Hype the amazing new coaching staff. (They’ll really turn Rivière around!)
    Think it’ll work?

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jun 16, 2015 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #22

    Ron Knee,
    I’d prefer them to get shot of Sissoko…

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  • barkel

    Jun 16, 2015 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #23

    Ron

    Do you work in the clubs PR department?

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  • Ron Knee

    Jun 16, 2015 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #24

    Lilo
    Sissoko’s a tough one. To get him to play well he has to be told that Wenger is somewhere in the crowd watching him.

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  • Ron Knee

    Jun 16, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #25

    barkel
    I’d like a job on the board alongside Carr and Moncur but I’m not quite old enough.

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  • mickalfas

    Jun 16, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #26

    Ron
    Did you find charnleys book on the bus?

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  • 1949BH PROUDTOBEAGEORDIE

    Jun 16, 2015 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #27

    ron knee at 21 if anyone could turn riviere around i would start believing in miracles or santa . it wont happen

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  • Ron Knee

    Jun 16, 2015 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #28

    mickalfas
    No. It was leaked by The Chronicle.

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  • Average_Contents

    Jun 16, 2015 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #29

    Ah but the more pertinent question is, can we challenge palace?

    No

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jun 16, 2015 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #30

    Morning lads are we all well and up for a day of signings?

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  • Ron Knee

    Jun 16, 2015 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #31

    1949
    You don’t think we can finish 14th under McClaren & co.?

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  • John Tudor

    Jun 16, 2015 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #32

    the only signings will be at the dole

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Jun 16, 2015 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #33

    Lindegard would be a decent option as squad depth he had ability and is rapid he can also play left wing and right wing which we lack

    As much as Aarons blew me away when he first played he looked so rusty against QPR I hope his injuries have not affected his pace because he sloth like in that game

    Sammy could be decent under proper coaches and then Obertan and Gouffran dont want to be here so we need a fair few wingers if we are going to be buying Austin or Bost as they require crosses as does Cisse if we keep him

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  • Mister Tuff

    Jun 16, 2015 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #34

    Not so sure about all this new bonuses stuff.
    Knowing Tubbs the levels to be achieved will probably be unachievable so he has to pay nothing.
    If we knew what the bonus scheme was last season and what it is going to be this next season then we could probably make an informed judgement as to whether it is good for the players/club.
    So really what I’m saying it this is another example of “talk” which really equates to just meaningless words.
    A bonus scheme, however, for the players, would possibly be very good -if some stellar players are going to be signed.
    I’m very uneasy about loan players and I hope they are not going to hire a load of them. Temporary fix at the best.

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  • Toon Tang

    Jun 16, 2015 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #35

    Pardew news still clogging the atmosphere like the proverbial ‘vegetarian fart’

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  • jayphoto

    Jun 16, 2015 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #37

    Can’t remember a window where weve been linked with more loans than this…. Sandro ramirez, james Wilson, jesse Lingard, douglas (barca) and it’s only june!
    What happened to buying players..

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jun 16, 2015 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #38

    Pardew needs to pipe down

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jun 16, 2015 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #39

    Pardew – Crystal Palace Can Now Challenge Newcastle and be lower / mid-table every 3 seasons out of 4

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jun 16, 2015 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #40

    mister tuff

    exactly, ash is safe as houses with totally unattainable targets.

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