The Express are reporting that Newcastle will listen to offers for 25 year-old French International Moussa Sissoko this summer, but why would we sell one of our best players and the fee mentioned – £17M – is not exactly an Andy Carrollesque type bid.
Moussa Sissoko scores vital first goal against West Ham
Newcastle may find it hard to get offers near that figure, because Moussa was hardly outstanding in the second half of last season.
But come to think of it, nobody else was in the Newcastle side under the woeful coaching and man-management of John Carver, who was simply way out of his depth.
That’s one reason it may be important for new head coach Steve McClaren to take a look at every Newcastle player, before any decisions are made on who can leave this summer.
Moussa has played very well in patches for Newcastle, and we think that McClaren can get the very best out of him.
However, we would also hope that Moussa stops putting himself up for sale in the interviews he gives – when he keeps mentioning he would love to play for a Champions League club.
Based on his performance this year for Newcastle, he’s not good enough to play for a top club.
Liverpool are said to be interested in Moussa, but we have a hard time believing Newcastle would be willing to let him go this summer.
Moussa Sissoko has scored 11 goals in 94 appearances for Newcastle since joining us from Toulouse in January, 2013.
When in form Moussa Sissoko can be a powerhouse for the team, and we think his best days are still ahead of him – at Newcastle.
What do you think?
Comments welcome.
182 comments so far
Bambams
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:21 AM
Comment #1So much for our alleged ‘war chest’….
More likely a piggy bank
ToonFromLeeds
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:23 AM
Comment #2Crackers innit
Ibizatoon
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:23 AM
Comment #3BandB…It’s something we touched on recently. Logic (which can be a minefield with it comes to NUFC I admit) would indicate that this summer was always going to be a summer of re-building.
Even before Ashleys interview, it was always going to be tough to gauge what was a sign of necessity or ambition.
My thougts are, as you have been saying, the club need to show us their hand. My guess is there will be some encouraging signs by the time this window is done.
As always, it’s what comes next. Will they build on it?
A lot is said about the days of OV. Yes it went ott, however, it was based on genuine belief as we were well positioned to build from there.
richyg01
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:23 AM
Comment #4Its sounding more and more like McClaren has to sell before he can buy, otherwise, why are we not snapping players up before other clubs get in there first or their price rises!
HOWAY, we were meant to know the coaching staff on Monday, its now Thursday and still no word.
Gonna be a LONG summer this one.
SuperShearer
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:25 AM
Comment #5So having not brought in anyone our smart new “Board” are now looking to sell one of our best players? You can’t make this stuff up. I said it when it happened but until Ashely puts his money where is mouth is on the promises he’s made us NO ONE should renew their season tickets. Wait till the last minute or better still go to the games you fancy and sack-off the rest of this clown outfit we’re now lumbered with.
richyg01
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:26 AM
Comment #6Swansea have ANOTHER player in for a medical.
Good on them I say, we need to be more like them.
*Jesus, that is the level we have reached, where we are looking up to Swansea (no disrespect to them)
Average_Contents
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:26 AM
Comment #7Haha ed. You crack me up.
Do you seriously think shteve’s got a say and he’d be allowed to assess who leaves? If his valuation were to ever be met the club wouldn’t give a toss about what shteve thinks and he’d be sold. Most probably without a replacement because it wasn’t financially viable at the time.
If shteve ever came out with similar guff we’d know without a shadow of a doubt he’s another puppet.
I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt at the moment (being a yes man) until such time he does come out with it.
Although we had a taster at his coronation didn’t we.
Let the dust settle.
Lindisfarne
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:26 AM
Comment #8Geordie Jeans – nice and tight
https://youtu.be/kX85QqzrXO0
Munster Mag
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:26 AM
Comment #9Problem with this player is that its very difficult to get the most out of him because he doesnt suit one role well. He cant tackle, so not good defensive midfield. He cant pass particularly well either. He can run a lot but also gives the ball away a lot. And his attitude stinks at times. I would consider decent bids for him but its laughable that he wants to play in the champions league. He just isnt at that level. Obviously his agent may say otherwise…
Munster Mag
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:29 AM
Comment #10Average, a fair question at this point is: ” How is McClaren assessing the players ” ? Carver is gone, and Shteve cant watch the players so …???
Munster Mag
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:30 AM
Comment #11I’ll bet watching dvds of last seasons games must be fun. Welcome to NUFC steve!!
Munster Mag
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:31 AM
Comment #12Swansea are an excellent club. I read somewhere that they have two players lined up for every poition in the transfer market if needed, and have a succession plan always for managers. Monk was signposted miles out.
richyg01
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:31 AM
Comment #13Munster @ 10
Thought we did it all via YouTube in the Ca$hley era?!
optimistic prime
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:32 AM
Comment #14Jeff the bell end
Attack lol what a tit you are.
I missed what? a none existent point you then had to explain. What a clown!
BandB
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:33 AM
Comment #15There was a time that if one suggested we might sell our better players for less than “silly money” it drew a certain amount of fire.
However, Charnley explained the club has a value in mind for every player and will sell if the price is acceptable, regardless.
So what is being reported as shocking here by Ed is just stated club policy in action.
If we sell, he will be replaced. Though manager may have to patient and not expect a like-for-like replacement. Which was also spelled out by Charnley quite clearly.
That is why I hope the club will announce soon that this policy has been scrapped. It might sell some season tickets.
Lindisfarne
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:34 AM
Comment #16Eating baked potatoes:
https://youtu.be/J-WEIVIbcQw
John Tudor
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:35 AM
Comment #17he’s just a puppet
Toonfan8
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:37 AM
Comment #18give Sissoko one more year under S. McClaren and we will see what he can achieve…but we must buy first, CB,creative midfielder and Striker must by priority…
optimistic prime
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:39 AM
Comment #19BandB
I read somewhere that even if you don’t renew your st if it hasn’t been sold for 3months after start of season you can still claim your seat if you wish to pay.
If that’s the case and others have read the same IMO a lot of people will wait until end of window to see what shape were in.
Personally I beleive not one fan owes the club anything, other way round.
They should be going all out to prove they’ve changed tact, not expecting people to beleive their empty words.
Jib
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:39 AM
Comment #20The French press are reporting that with loan fee and salary Cabaye would cost £7million
Take the £17 for Sissoko
Pay £7million for Cabaye for a season and buy Will Hughes for £10million.
Jobs a good ‘un
SuperShearer
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:42 AM
Comment #21The club need to make some moves and fast. They’ve proved time and time again that playing this ridiculous waiting game never works. If you want a player then make it happen. Otherwise we end up with garbage and all this crap about “the line” that we couldn’t get someone over.
richyg01
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:42 AM
Comment #22Whats this BS meant to mean:
“Newcastle are hoping their pursuit of Watford’s Troy Deeney could convince QPR to drop their asking price for Charlie Austin.”
Why would us trying to sign another player make Austin’s price fall!? Makes no sense!
SuperShearer
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:44 AM
Comment #23Richy – it’s a typical Ashely tactic. It’s BS, the theory being if it looks like you’re going after other targets a selling club will go “okay, let’s lower our price for you” – that’s not the way the world works.
nightfa11
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:45 AM
Comment #24fine by me..trade him for cabaye & buy hughes..
Average_Contents
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:45 AM
Comment #25Munster
Did I say right this minute? They could sell him the last day of the window after shteve’s seen him or anybody else in action for that matter. It was in reply to ed’s ambitious opinion that he’d have a say. He wouldn’t. As I said, if the valuation is met he’d be gone regardless of what shteve wanted.
Lilongwe Geordie
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:46 AM
Comment #26The club has a full roster of players over the age of 22 currently that would all need to be registered this season if they are to be used in the Premier league. Whilst I would prefer to see us buy first, that will fly against the perceived wisdom in the corridors of power.
Why would they want more players then can be used? Will anyone come in for people like Rivi, Anita, Goofy, Colo, Willo, Saylor, Vuckic, Marveaux, Bigi, Ferguson etc. Some could possibly go out on loan, but the club will not be willing to have a large number of players who aren’t registered but are still at the club. Of course, the other option is to tear up some contracts and pay them off.
That is another reason why any reasonable bid for a player will be considered in my opinion, as we only have a handful of relatively saleable assets – Cisse, Sissoko, Perez, Janmaat maybe at a push Tiote.
BandB
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:47 AM
Comment #27OP
That seems a logical route for waverers to follow, rather than committing now.
We need to present them with a list of reasonable expectations and make it clear that we won’t just sign up anyway if they serve up something less than that.
People almost fainted with relief that we got the unwanted McClaren because they feared getting Carver.
As you said yourself….”fool me once shame on you…fool me for eight years…shoot me.”
Average_Contents
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:48 AM
Comment #28Oh and it wasn’t a dig at shteve, more the club for letting him have no say or if he did not being arsed about it in the slightest. Money is king. Not shteve.
Although if he came out and defended a player leaving with no replacement bought as has happened with previous managers then he’d be another puppet. As this hasn’t happened yet I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.
Mister Tuff
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:49 AM
Comment #29blog pest ————–yawn!
BandB
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:51 AM
Comment #30Lil
This club has accumulated more useless clutter from bargain bins than my dear beloved mother ever did.
Lilongwe Geordie
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:52 AM
Comment #31Wouldn’t bother with the Cabaye loan, but if we sold Sissoko and got Hughes into understudy for De Jong whilst also adding £7million to the centre forward/centre half fund I think it would be a good bit of business. Another bonus would be that Hughes wouldn’t need registering for the Premier league as he is under 21.
expatmag
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:54 AM
Comment #32Lil
I posted something similar a few threads back.
In order to get bodies in, we need to get bodies out.
Lilongwe Geordie
Jun 18, 2015 at 11:57 AM
Comment #33BandB,
Very true. The amount of money wasted by the club in an attempt to be run at low cost is crazy. Most of those players aren’t on tiny wages, most will be between £30 and 50k a week and yet they offer very little now, some never have in their time here.
optimistic prime
Jun 18, 2015 at 12:01 PM
Comment #34Lg
Anyway we could get rid of Sissoko would be good IMO.
BandB
I rate Mclaren as a coach, def wouldn’t be my first choice but best we can expect under fatty.
I’m not sure if I’m relieved or underwhelmed at his appointment, until the window closes I’ll hold off losing my mind either way. Well I’ll try at least.
Jib
Jun 18, 2015 at 12:01 PM
Comment #35A fascinating resource for real NUFC fans (Mr Tuff you go and play in the sandpit) is NUFC.com Rumours section , especially last summers months of June , July and August.
One forgets how wacky some of the rumours were !!!!
The only 2 that were correctly predicted (late in the day) by the Chronic were Cabella and SdJong.
Daryl Janmaat was only forecast in the Italian press.
mickalfas
Jun 18, 2015 at 12:02 PM
Comment #36We have a squad which 50%,at least, of them won’t get a game ,have absolutely no sell value ,and nobody wants them
Fantastic strategy fatty !!
JackButler
Jun 18, 2015 at 12:04 PM
Comment #37If Sissoko believes he deserves to be playing for a Champions League side (he simply does not) then let him go, but if this is just another ploy for Ashley to recoup some money it will go to show that talk is cheap
Jib
Jun 18, 2015 at 12:09 PM
Comment #38This is the site that forecast Janmaat last season
http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/europa/newcastle-il-liverpool-offre-24-milioni-per-sissoko-693357
24million euro works out at £17million
Lindisfarne
Jun 18, 2015 at 12:09 PM
Comment #39Lilongwe Geordie
Perceived wisdom says you don’t sell until there is a ready made replacement in situ. However the club are more likely to believe having a replacement lowers the selling price.
richyg01
Jun 18, 2015 at 12:09 PM
Comment #40Aparently we are now talking to Wolfsburg to try and agree a fee for Bas Dost.
Hopefully our Bas Tard doesnt cock it up!