Newcastle Miss Out On Two More Targets


Newcastle were interested in January in two Charlton players –  21 year-old midfielder Jordan Cousins and  Joe Gomez, their 6’2″ center-back who can also play at right back – but it looks like we’ve missed out on at least one of those – Joe Gomez, with news today that he has signed for Liverpool.

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Joe Gomez – signed for Liverpool for £3.5M

Liverpool have paid £3.5M for the Charlton youngster who is still just 18 years old, and he’s signed a five year deal at Liverpool.

Newcastle were linked with Gomez as far back as last summer, but we seem to hesitate too much in the transfer window these days, and other clubs – usually bigger ones who have more ambition and initiative than Newcastle – move in to get the players.

We’re still in for Jordan Cousins, but again some big clubs are interested in the midfielder.

Another good center-back who looks unlikely to join Newcastle this summer is 26 year-old Anderlecht defender Chancel Mbemba, and we were first linked with this player last year.

The 6 ft tall defender is often compared with Manchester City defender Vincent Kompany in the way he plays, and the lad already has 14 caps for DR Congo and played for them in the African Cup of Nations in Equatorial Guinea in January.

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Chancel Mbemba – moving to Borussia Monchengladbach

News today in the Sun that he is close to making a move to German Club Borussia Monchengladbach for around £8M, and the deal is said to be close but not yet completed.

We’ve got to believe Newcastle didn’t sign either of these players because we were again not willing to bid big enough money to get the players to Newcastle.

That’s one of our big problems this summer – we have had eight years of practicing bidding low and negotiating good deals that take some time.

So when we have the money to get good players into the club, that old habit continues and we miss out on our targets.

We would hazard a guess that’s one of the main reasons we haven’t signed any players yet this summer  – too much concentration on bidding low and trying to get a good deal.

But we now have plenty of money available in the coffers, and we had £35M in the bank in January, and just received in late May over £78M from the Premier League for finishing in 15th place .

If we are going to build a good side again on Tyneside, we have to have a much braver and bolder approach in the transfer market.

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96 comments so far

  • lochinvar

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:04 PM

    Comment #1

    Is there anybody out there left to sign ?

    Or do we have all out targets on pre-agreements and are just waiting for 1st July to announce all seven of them with the three new coaches in one go at a well organised PR news conference ?

    I’m waiting

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:11 PM

    Comment #2

    Ed, we don’t have to buy every player we’ve been linked with. But also you’re talking as if those links were strong, firm and true. Flap, flap. Loads of players and loads of time left before the flapping needs to start.

    Even if you put in a bid for the asking price, the selling club will invariably try to extract more, playing one club off against another. More often than not it goes down to the wire. You must know this. I mean when you buy a house, do you put in a low figure to start with? Or do you run in with the asking price? Do you haggle or roll over?

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  • optimistic prime

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:13 PM

    Comment #3

    It’s all paper talk everyone knows you need to sell before you buy.

    It’s the same for everyone, the chicken or the egg

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  • Bambams

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:13 PM

    Comment #4

    Gets down to the one only thing Ash said in his interview
    “Best pound for pound”

    We will not pay the going rate so therefore we might end up with the scraps left on the table.

    To be honest and this is with no disrespect to Ed, I no longer feel encouraged when I read titles ‘Toon linked with…..’
    Just been so many and nothing comes from them.

    Still plenty of time as most players are still on holiday and the ones who don’t use agents will be the ones we target.

    *****sick of all the advert/redirected to other sites*****

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  • Tsunki

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:13 PM

    Comment #5

    Might be worth pointing out that B&B and BandB and not the same poster. For both their sakes.

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  • Graeme

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:14 PM

    Comment #6

    Lochinvar – I wouldn’t hold your breath mate!!!

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  • Big Archie

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:14 PM

    Comment #7

    No Ed – you dont have to believe that at all.
    You dont even have to believe that Newcastle were ever interested in these players at all.
    You dont have to believe every simgle article that you read online, because its almost certain that 75% of them are made up.
    This is why we always end up so frustrated – because we believe every article written.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:16 PM

    Comment #8

    Belfast
    I’d take good money for Krul if I could get it. But only if Darlow is as good or better. From the little I’ve seen, he’s not. He should be. That’s Carr’s job. Carr should be under serious scrutiny this window. It’s make or break for him.

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  • Belfast

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:17 PM

    Comment #9

    Well said Archie. Load of bollox most of these links.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:18 PM

    Comment #10

    Blockhead -you dream and fantasize more than the blog pest. I do not think you have won any arguments with me – but if it makes you feel better -so be it.
    I do recall thrashing your buttocks red raw in the “arrest King Percy debate” and you haven’t stopped squealing like a piglet since.

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  • Tsunki

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:19 PM

    Comment #11

    Eds gotta write something. Can’t blame him for calling attention to rumours from diverse sources as that’s the purpose of the blog. Can’t be helped it’s silly season for the Agents, the Papers and the Betting companies because this is their seasonal harvest time to turn over the bulk of cash. Bound to get very silly indeed. Ed does post a few out of touch things I agree, but generally, don’t shoot the messenger I say. By rights we should be on the same article as two weeks ago, nowts really happened.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:20 PM

    Comment #12

    Bambams
    Use the desktop version not the mobile version. It worked for me and it’s better when you get used to it. Still some dodgy posters mind.

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  • mickalfas

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:20 PM

    Comment #13

    Even if a club accepts our offer for a player,will he sign on with our wage structure
    I actually think that is the bigger problem,and the reason we lose out to so called lesser clubs like Swansea ,Gomis,Ayew, Bony for example

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  • Toon-Barmy

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:21 PM

    Comment #14

    Just did a quick review of our current squad and it looks as though we really do need to sell before we buy in this transfer window. We currently have 28 over-age players in the squad, including Sammy Ameobi who hasn’t signed his contract offer yet.
    That means we need to ship at least four players out before we can register a single new player. If we really want to bring in six new players then we need to ship out at least nine of the over-age players from the list below.

    NUFC Over-Age Players (Ages in brackets)

    GK: Tim Krul (27)
    GK: Karl Darlow (24)
    GK: Rob Elliot (29)
    RB: Daryl Janmaat (26)
    CB: Fabricio Coloccini (33)
    CB: Mike Williamson (31)
    CB: Steven Taylor (29)
    CB: Jamaal Lascelles (21)
    CB: Curtis Good (22)
    LB: Paul Dummett (23)
    LB: Massadio Haidara (22)
    CM: Moussa Sissoko (26)
    CM: Jack Colback (25)
    CM: Cheick Tiote (29)
    CM: Vurnon Anita (26)
    CM: Sylvain Marveaux (29)
    CM: Mehdi Abeid (23)
    CM: Gael Bigirimana (21)
    AM: Siem De Jong (26)
    AM: Remy Cabella (25)
    AM: Haris Vuckic (23)
    RM: Gabriel Obertan (26)
    LM: Sammy Ameobi (23)
    LM: Yoan Gouffran (29)
    LM: Shane Ferguson (24)
    CF: Papiss Cisse (30)
    CF: Emmanuel Rivière (25)
    CF: Ayoze Perez (22)

    Contracted Under 21’s:

    GK: Freddie Woodman (18)
    RB: Kevin Mbabu (20)
    RB: Jamie Sterry (19)
    CB: Lubomir Satka (19)
    CB: Macauley Gillesphey (19)
    RM: Rolando Aarons (19)
    RM: Dan Barlaser (18)
    CM: Olivier Kemen (19)
    CM: Liam Smith (19)
    LM: Callum Roberts (18)
    CF: Alex Gilliead (19)
    CF: Adam Armstrong (18)
    CF: Tom Heardman (19)

    Players Out:

    Facundo Ferreyra – Free
    Jonas Gutierrez – Free
    Ryan Taylor – Free
    Jak Alnwick – Free
    Adam Campbell – Free
    Remie Streete – Free
    Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa – £5.5million
    Davide Santon – £2.8million

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  • Jib

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:21 PM

    Comment #15

    Well said
    Tsunki

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:21 PM

    Comment #16

    Tsunki it confused the hell outtawith all the b’S lol

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  • Belfast

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:22 PM

    Comment #17

    Blackley

    I had seen him a number of times before we signed him, and I thought he was a good keeper like. I would be comfortable with him being number one if Krul left.

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  • Tsunki

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:22 PM

    Comment #18

    OK I’m with the Sell Krul Mob ha ha. Poor decision making and woeful attention to distribution have made our defence look appalling. Between him and our slack cover in midfield it’s hopelessly exposed our back four time and again. Lovely lad, top guy to meet, superb instinctive keeper but unless it’s a coaching deficiency, he’s no help to us right now.

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  • Tsunki

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:23 PM

    Comment #19

    Well cheers jeff.

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  • SA Toon

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:24 PM

    Comment #20

    It’s an enormously frustrating time as one apparent target after another seems to fall away, but I think we need to recognize that a lot of these so-called “targets” are bullsh*t made up by journos, agents, bloggers and others. That having been said, the recent meltdown at NUFC with shocking football and a fallout between fans and the current owner certainly won’t be helping our cause. I think we need to be realistic this window and recognize that we won’t be able to attract the top players. First we need to rebuild the brand and then we might have a chance at getting in some top players.

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:25 PM

    Comment #21

    Tuff Guy
    So I was right. You wouldn’t do it. Everyone will see that you bottled it and resorted to the arguments of assertion. Like the battered boxer who raises his arm in victory seemingly to convince the judges but really to save face. Sums you up, fella.

    I’ll heed your mum and cut you some slack. Unless you get all clever arse again, of course.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:25 PM

    Comment #22

    B&B

    You refer to people as flappy birds but does that not have some justification, given the last 8 years? Old rotonda thinks it might have. Players in key positions have never been and in some cases remain unreplaced.

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  • JamesToon

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:26 PM

    Comment #23

    Toonbarmy

    I thought you can unregister them anyway without actually selling them. And can’t you buy the players anyway then register them once players have been unregistered/sold

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:28 PM

    Comment #24

    If Arsenal was to want Krul I’d take a swap for wojciech szczesny

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:29 PM

    Comment #25

    JamesToon you are correct

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:30 PM

    Comment #26

    Belfast
    I’d like to think Carr’s got a good one. We’ll see. I just don’t rate Carr. He’s getting past it. I’ve only seen bits and pieces of Darlow on tv and he didn’t impress, but you can’t judge him by that. I haven’t heard the Forest fans complaining too much.

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  • mickalfas

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:30 PM

    Comment #28

    SA Toon
    Spot on,sounds like we need a new 5 year plan ,to follow the success of the last one

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  • mickalfas

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:32 PM

    Comment #29

    Tfl
    Good word for scrabble !!

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  • Blackley and Brownlie

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:33 PM

    Comment #30

    Rotonda
    But almost no club gets their business done so early. So it doesn’t matter what our record is like, it’s not the time to be flapping. Keep it real fellas.

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:33 PM

    Comment #31

    Just a bit Mickalfas lol

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  • lesh

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:40 PM

    Comment #32

    Charnley should’ve been sacked or re-deployed when Carver for the boot.

    It’s clear he lacks any charisma, drive and seems to be totally out of his depth as MD.

    Let’s hope that an alliance of Carr and McClaren can use Moncur and get Ashley to realise that having Charnley as MD could well lead to another brush with relegation.

    We need someone to bring interest in potential signings to fruition before we’re left with those not wanted by other clubs.

    Charnley, out!

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  • Tsunki

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:56 PM

    Comment #33

    Lesh I think it’s Charladys ability to count beans that keeps him in post. That and his understanding of the dark arts of Sino-Indian Infusions. I hear his expert preparation of Lapsang Souchong before the West Ham game is credited with us staying in the League. That and Carver getting the dunnies unblocked in time for the after-balti-pie rush.

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  • Sir Braveheart

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:56 PM

    Comment #34

    “We’ve got to believe Newcastle didn’t sign either of these players because we were again not willing to bid big enough money to get the players to Newcastle”

    I think its much more likely that we didn’t sign either of these players because we were never interested in the first place and didn’t bid.

    Seriously who are these players?

    Hamilton Academicals are about to sign Roger Fitzpatrick from Halifax Town. We haven’t been able to sign him either. I can only assume it’s because we weren’t willing to pay the big money or that Hamilton Academicals are a more ambitious club than us. I can’t decide.

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  • Sir Braveheart

    Jun 21, 2015 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #35

    Also Ed, random redirects to the apps store or racingchuffingpost.com? Really?

    Im not cool with that. Adverts are fine but when it takes 20 attempts to post something because I’m being redirected every 15 seconds it annoys me.

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  • Tsunki

    Jun 21, 2015 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #36

    Oh no fitzpatrick stepped over us as well? I can’t take much more of this!

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  • optimistic prime

    Jun 21, 2015 at 3:02 PM

    Comment #37

    Anyone with half a brain cell would realise the more players you intend to replace in your team the more time you need to work with them.

    The CB position has needed attention for years would it be responsible or proffesional to wait until a cpl of weeks before the start of the season to get those players in?

    Schteeve needs as much time as possible with all the players he’ll end up having for next season to give him the best chance of having them prepared.

    I personally don’t think anyone on the blog is panicking at all, not in the slightest. People are expressing their concerns that there appears to be no direction or movement from NUFC despite the many weaknesses in our squad.

    Everyone knows the window doesn’t open until July 1st, does that stop agreements being reached or discussions taking place? This time last year 3 deals where agreed and in place.

    There’s no panic but why should people not ask the questions of why no movement?

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  • Tsunki

    Jun 21, 2015 at 3:05 PM

    Comment #38

    Lads and lasses have you all got ad blockers running? Considered turning flash off in your browser settings? ( stops random video). Eds been in bed with all sorts of dodge pot advertisers it’s a pain but I haven’t had redirects for months now. Don’t know about anyone else but also haven’t seen page ads to date a slag only 3 miles away for some time either 🙂

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  • mickalfas

    Jun 21, 2015 at 3:07 PM

    Comment #39

    We’ll be so surprised/overwhelmed when we manage to drag someone over the line ,we won’t mind that he cost 1,000,000 pesos for a 4 foot 6 Bolivian CB
    It’s a cunning plan !

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  • tequilamag

    Jun 21, 2015 at 3:08 PM

    Comment #40

    Tsunki you will be glad to know Rebecca is now in a happy long term relationship with Kets

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