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Disconnect Between Newcastle And Fans On Transfers

9:00 am, Wednesday, June 24th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 216 Comments

There’s a report in the Chronicle today that it’s their understanding that Steve McClaren is hoping to make our first signing in the transfer market in the next two weeks, and that Steve hopes to have a player in before the first pre-season game at Gateshead.

The first friendly at the International Stadium on Friday 10th July, just before the lads fly out to the US for their three game tour starting at Milwaukee against Club Atlas at the Miller Park on Tuesday, 14th July.

steve mcclaren nufc smiling

Steve McClaren – still hasn’t got coaching team in place

Here is Newcastle’s pre-season schedule in full.

Fri 10th July (8:00 pm)Gateshead
International StadiumW 1-0
Tue 14th July (8:00 pm CT - 2:00 am Wed Newcastle time)Club Atlas
Miller Park, MilwaukeeL 2-1
Sat 18th July (8:00 pm PT - 4:00 am Sun Newcastle time)Sacramento RepublicBonney Field, SacramentoW 1-0
Tue 21st July (7.30 pm PT - 3:30 am Wed Newcastle time)Portland Timbers
Providence Park, PortlandL 4-3
Sun 26th July (1:00 pm)
Sheffield United
Bramall LaneD 2-2
Wed 29th July (7:45 pm)
York City
Bootham CrescentL 2-1
Sat 1st August (3:00 pm)
Borussia Mönchengladbach
St. James' ParkL 1-0

If that’s true then there is quite a disconnect between what the fans are expecting and what the club is doing in the transfer market at the moment.

The Magpies are reported to be close to signing both Bas Dost of Wolfsburg and Charlie Austin of QPR, but we still have some work to do to get any of those players through the door.

We reported yesterday that Dost’s coach at the German club – Dieter Hecking – advised him not to move to Newcastle:

“Why does Bas want to go there?” “He can play in the next season’s Champions League with us.”

“”He will not be able to do that next season at Newcastle nor probably in the following season at Newcastle.”

“We don’t want to let any of our players go.”

And news in the Express late last night that Newcastle are now in the lead to sign Charlie Austin is difficult to believe.

But after losing nine of our last eleven games in the league under John Carver, that would suggest Newcastle  need to strengthen the squad big time this summer, and we’ve been told money is available.

Just how much money is available has been reported to be anywhere between £25M and £60M – so take your choice.

Steve McClaren still has to announce his coaching staff, with time passing by and just one week to go before the players start reporting back from their summer break.

Newcastle need to show more urgency in their efforts to get both players and coaches into the club – it’s not like we finished in the top six in the Premier League last season.

In fact we finished in the bottom six.

Comments welcome.

Tags: Newcastle News · Recruitment · Scouting Network · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target

216 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:02 AM

    Everyone needs to place the tips of their middle finger together with the tips of their thumbs and incant ” Hhuuummmmmmm” over and over.
    Also save this link to our preferred media partner
    If you check this out now,you will be struck by how little actual real transfer news there is thus far.
    This is not because the board is incompetent or Ashley hates Geordies or the Greek economy is a joke .
    All the young decent players in Europe are busy in the Czech Republic until 30 June and the rest are on holiday.

  • 2 Grafton83 // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:05 AM

    How come other clubs have made lots of signings then, Liverpool are on about 5. Hhuuummmmmmm

  • 3 welshgeordie9 // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:09 AM

    The way it’s going at the moment with no players in, mcclaren will go before the Gateshead match nevermind Southampton.

  • 4 spitfire_ // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:10 AM

    One signing in the next 2 weeks… maybe. So this was the result of “the positive week” according to McClaren.

  • 5 Lindisfarne // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:10 AM

    Same old. Same old.

  • 6 lesh // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:10 AM

    I think we all know by now that the word ‘urgency’ is not in Charnley’s vocabulary.

    Apart from trying to impress Mickey boy by nt spending money, I wonder just what he’s been doing for the past few weeks?

    Could he be on holiday? It wouldn’t surprise me in the least!

  • 7 croftus5678 // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:14 AM

    @5 lindis


    we need something to happen as the more the days go bye the less us fans believe.

  • 8 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:15 AM

    I think the Liverpool squad have met Brendan the dwarf and the Brazilian signing while looking good has been forced by Sterling getting pinched by Man City
    NUFC’s squad have yet to meet Supermac
    I’d rather buy what we require rather than panic buying.
    Past summers were spent wondering how Fat Freddy had wasted the clubs money this time.

  • 9 Lindisfarne // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:16 AM

    On the back burner and no great loss:

  • 10 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:17 AM

    Two weeks flappy birds How will the flappy birds last two weeks? You’ll be biting each other’s heads off.

    But remember. In Carr you trust. Even Jail gives Ashley credit for appointing the old man. You couldn’t make it up.

  • 11 hibbit // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:19 AM

    welshgeordie9 ……. that could be closer to the truth than you think Mc is said to be very unhappy with the way things are going and the offers made to coaches he lined up

  • 12 Jail for Ashley // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:22 AM

    I said appointing Carr was one of the rare good things Mashers has done for the club, you have mentioned this about five times now, what is your point ?

  • 13 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:24 AM

    Supermac unhappy ?
    Really ?
    Where did you get this pearl ?
    Your brother know someone down the pub who knows McClarens missus dog groomer ?

  • 14 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:25 AM

    Old Blackley noted your foul mouth rant to a fellow blogger. How does that advance your blogonomics? You’ve let your yourself down badly there fella.

    Stay calm. Don’t flap. If you trust in our Director of Football to spot the talent, and working as part of the regime, you have nothing to worry about.

  • 15 Lindisfarne // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:27 AM


    Despite paying a private PR company and having staff at SJP to deal with the media, publicity, merchandising and hospitality. There are no regular updates from anyone official at the Club and the lack of communication only creates more frustration.

    The Boards perspective may be that whatever is said never believed and attacked. But at least a summary of the current situation regarding existing players, the training ground, the number of coaching candidates currently in conversation, the number of positions in the first team are possibly required and generally discussing the club in a positive light would keep Supporters engaged and less prone to Press / Agent speculation.

  • 16 Mr Magpie // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:28 AM

    I am still hopefull that the new much needed signings will arrive but i think a big issue & possibly a major stumblling block that the footballing board have maybe overlooked in signing players apart from the lack of paying competitive wages & the location could be the instability at the club.

    Relegation battles, lack of investment in players & facilities, protests against manager & owner, disharmony from the players, public scoldings from the head coach, lack of competitive desire to win things leading to no European football currently & then they have to sit down with Lee Charnley who has to sell the player his vision for the club.

    They still have time to secure the signings that we need but they are going to have to make sure these players really feel wanted by nufc, not only in financial terms but also in desire to have them playing in our shirt.

    Let McClaren tell them why he wants them here, where he see’s them playing, in what system, talk about his philosophy for the style he wants the club to be associated with & that we want to challenge at the top of the league, win cups, be competitive in European competition.

    They must show them the stadium, walk them through onto the pitch, talk about the history & heritage of our club, utilise legends like Shearer to bring them here because if not then we will not secure the better quality players & we will end up with lower quality players that are maybe players again.

  • 17 hibbit // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:28 AM

    jeffrey behave……….. no its coming from a good friend who works for steve gibsons at rockliffe hall / training ground if you dont like it dont read it WUM

  • 18 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:28 AM

    The last Hibbit tidbit
    Carver is defo here until at least Xmas then they’ll look at the league position.
    What it is to be ITK

  • 19 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:30 AM

    The point is obvious. You must understand it. It makes a rare change for you to give credit to Ashley considering you paint him as the anti-christ. You should remind people of tgat more often. It’s good that you are taking a more balanced view and can give Ashley some credit.

  • 20 hibbit // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:31 AM

    lindisfarne ashley owns 55% of that pr company through mash holdings

  • 21 croftus5678 // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:32 AM

    i’m sideing with jail and all the other carr supporters on this one !

    i too think its one of a few things ash has got correct from the start and i’d hate to think where we would be if he had not got us the quality of some of the players he has done.

    sissoko/siem/debuchy/cabaye/perez/janmaat for a team mostly mid table or relegation fodder he’s found some gems.

    not all have hit i admit but he doesnt get that many wrong.

  • 22 optimistic prime // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:33 AM


    The fact NUFC have no representatives at the under 21s kinda blows a hole in your theory

  • 23 hibbit // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:34 AM

    jeffrey your a dick head always have been always will be WUM

  • 24 Lindisfarne // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:37 AM

    Blackley and Brownlie

    Your words speak for themselves, contrary, facile, rigid and incapable of introspection. You say flap, I say discuss the issues of the day. Are you proud of the fact you draw the most foul mouthed responses? I am sure you are not capable of addressing why that might be.

  • 25 croftus5678 // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:38 AM

    hmm last season it was the puds linked with every one of our players targeted and this season it seems to be west ham and sunderland !

    anyone get the feeling the papers are just making this stuff up 😉

  • 26 WWSBRD // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:38 AM

    Did u used to go by a different name on here?

  • 27 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:40 AM

    Once again your comprehension of written English lets you down.
    In your distasteful haste to debunk every word I say you yet again have totally missed my point
    But I don’t post on here for the school gang.
    I post for the majority who just read and won’t get involved because of people like you

  • 28 Lindisfarne // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:41 AM

    hibbit – really?!! Wow! Thanks

    No wonder they are sh#t. How do you publicise without spending any money? It all starts to make sense.

  • 29 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:42 AM

    Your name calling backs up my point that you are an ITK bullsh**ter

  • 30 thevirus // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:44 AM

    This is how I see the transfer window going, buy no-one sell at least 4 , then relegated that’s how disconnect I am from the club right now, it’s an absolute shambles, false rumour after false rumour no real communication from the club, and to top it all a shit load of bitches on this blog arguing with each other. It’s time people grew up ( club and blog )

  • 31 musomag // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:48 AM

    Squabbling in the ranks and zero transfers going on? I feel like I’ve just logged into the blog of 2014

  • 32 musomag // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:49 AM

    Well said thevirus,

    Couldn’t agree more

  • 33 Lindisfarne // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:50 AM

    Mr Magpie

    They can offer consistently good competitive football, regular playing time, a large and supportive crowd and higher wages than other European clubs not playing in European competitions. Unfortunately the standard of player that would be attracted is generally low unless the individual is willing to take a gamble on the clubs unfounded optimism. Or the club could present a credible coaching team with a reputation for dynamic and exciting football.

  • 34 SuperShearer // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:50 AM

    Those bashing Carr are very naive. He’s the best thing about our clud in the current state it is in. I work next to an Arsenal supporter on one side and a Man Utd fan on the other. I asked them both what / who they would take from Newcastle and they both said: Graham Carr. There’s even rumours that other clubs actively try and follow him round Europe to gauge who he is scouting. Look at the players he has unearthed for us at incredibly prices that allows Ash to then flog at a huge profit.

  • 35 Jail for Ashley // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:51 AM

    2013 as well

  • 36 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:54 AM

    Comparing last Summers window to this is fruitless
    Last year we had a manager who had been here 4 years
    Targets we had been chasing since December
    A World Cup to distract the media from making stuff up and the tragic incident over the Ukraine to bring the fans together.

  • 37 lesh // Jun 24, 2015 at 9:58 AM

    Mr Magpie

    You jest sir?

    Are you seriously suggesting that Charnley even thinks there’s a need to ‘sell’ the Club to targets?

    Charnley’s got much more important things to busy himself with.

    There’s his holidays, sorting out his to-do list, setting his email ‘out-of-office’, auditing the tea-fund, planning the tea-making rotor…. And so it goes on, decisions, decisions decisions!

    A lesser man would crack under the pressure, but not Penfold – he’s a giant!

  • 38 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:01 AM

    I bet you don’t even know that SJP is staging some games from the Rugby Union World Cup

  • 39 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:03 AM

    Your anti-Ashley cabal drives most posters away. You now have a long time tight gang who jump on anyone off message. Nobody can answer the question as to how Charnley ended up paying a fortune gor Cabella and Rivi. Someone must have not only idrntified them, but valued them. Perhaps Charnley didca good job in getting tgem gor less than Carr’s valuation. Is anyone duggesting he paid more than Carr’s valuation?

    As to Croftus’ list. There all well known established players. There’s only Perez who looks like he’s been unearthed, although he was sticking through the surface. And he hasn’t made it yet. So what’s the big deal?

  • 40 croftus5678 // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:04 AM

    imo scouting should be done and they know who they are going for before the season even ended as we employ a head coach who’s only imput in transfers is a yes i want or no i dont imo and that doesnt take more than a few mins.

    they would have also put a list of prices we will pay for those players !

    i just dont get how others can sign players in a matter of days yet the simplist of signings takes us a hell of a lot longer.

  • 41 musomag // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:07 AM

    Exactly Jail, as you would say and I agree….ASHLEY OUT

    We can compare the transfer situation to any year since Ashley arrived, he’s got proven form. If he wanted to appease the fans he could easily do it with a quality signing done quickly at the start of each window, then we could better tolerate the false targets and tireless haggling approach. He simply does not care.
    Wrong owner, wrong manager, wrong transfer policy = wrong league.

  • 42 banjax // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:10 AM

    Totally agree with your comments and would add if we are buying quality, they are going to need some convincing about joining the Toon especially after our well publicised lack of ambition over the last few seasons which has done terrible damage to our club’s reputation. Next is the money side of things. It would be sheer stupidity to advertise the Transfer budget to the world and his mother and risk never getting our targets because selling clubs want stupid fees. So I’m afraid patience is the order of the day and of course as Jib says, the players need to be back from holiday and various International fixtures. So the message is : Keep calm and carry on !

  • 43 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:11 AM

    Who was at fault deciding not to get Gomis on a free, and pay him the c.£70k that Swansea pay him and pay the cash for Riviere and sign him instead? That would be Charnley because that £70k would have been more than our wage limit.

    It was only after we pulled out of talks with Gomis that we went for Riviere, so it would be safe to assume Carr preferred Gomis, but Charnley decided wages were to high. The rigid structure in place is a bigger issue than the players Carr puts on the list.

    Rivi was at best 4th on that list behind Gomis, Lacazette and Remy. Maybe even 5th as we went after Lassogga before Riviere as well. Carr isn’t perfect, nobody is. But if you go down the list of any scout, once you get to the 5th option or later the quality will be significantly lower.

  • 44 firebug666 // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:14 AM

    This morning was decent for chatting and debating on here, then the wums and trolls dragged themselves out of the flea pit and the conversation disintegrated into name calling and I know more than you.

    With the likes of Jib a jabba Jeff and schizophrenic Blackley it’s no wonder the posters leave in their droves.

    Stand up and take a bow lads another successful day destroying the blog.

    I’ll be back around tea time and see if there is any improvement!

  • 45 croftus5678 // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:15 AM

    @39 blackley

    hmm why havent all teams clocked onto the fact that if the buy established players they will fit in and be good for the team ?

    i’m no scout nor do i pretend that i know what it takes to be one nvm a successful one but i’m pretty sure there more too it that just signing radamel falcoa or veron/aquilani/robinho ect ect.

  • 46 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:19 AM

    7 goals in 32 games
    I bet Swansea can now see why we thought £70k a week was too much.

  • 47 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:19 AM

    morning all

  • 48 lochinvar // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:21 AM

    Couldn’t they invest in NUFC instead
    The Miami Dolphins American football team owner Stephen Ross is reportedly working with investors from Qatar to buy a stake in Formula 1 racing.
    RSE Ventures and Qatar Sports Investments plan a bid for CVC Capital Partners’ 35.5% stake in the holding company that owns F1.
    The Financial Times and Reuters said the deal could be worth up to $8bn, and help build F1’s presence in the US.
    CVC declined to comment, while RSE said “we can’t comment at this time”.
    RSE was founded by property billionaire Ross, whose company has been in talks with ex-England footballer David Beckham about bringing a Major League Soccer team to Miami.

  • 49 GEORDIE69 // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:24 AM

    I will copy and paste this on Ed’s posts until it is complete, then will we see if we have any ambition to compete for top 8 in the Premier League and a Trophy. I have left out the players that are not good enough to achieve this currently. I will also remove any that we sell. Time is ticking Mike Ashley as there are only 69 days to go until the transfer deadline.

    If we want to win a cup and finish top 8 then these gaps will need filled with top players. If we want to finish mid table to bottom then we could get by with keeping the likes of Taylor, Riviere, Abeid and Ameobi. Non Premiership suited players and Championship class players do not finish top 8 in the Premier League.

    I might have to start one for our non coaching staff at this rate.

    GK Krul
    GK Darlow
    GK Elliot (3rd choice only)
    RB Janmaat
    LB Haidara
    CD Lascelles
    CD Colocinni ( For Tsunki and Toonbrother )
    CM Sissoko
    CM Tiote
    CM Colback
    CM Anita ( For Oldgit1, though the lack of height in centre mid is a worry )
    AM De Jong
    AM Aarons
    AM Cabella
    CF Cisse
    CF Perez

  • 50 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:26 AM

    Even adding in say £3million of signing on fee for Gomis, and just £500,000 for Rivi, if Rivi is on £30k a week (a conservative estimate) then we spent more on Rivi last season.

    Rivi managed a league goal every 1,208 minutes played. Gomis on the other hand got a goal every 235 minutes played in the league.

    I know who got the better deal out of it, and it certainly wasn’t us.

  • 51 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    What has been now? 3 weeks since SM appointment? And he still has not completed his own staff appointments. But it’s ok, i would be flapping if i expected it quicker. And ONE signing in what will be 5-6 weeks of the closed season is perfectly acceptable. Again, expecting at least a couple of players by now to cover our gaping weaknesses that the existing staff knew about would also be flapping. Lets trust Ashley this time.. its not like he has lied before, or let the club down in the 16 or so previous windows. Yay.

  • 52 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:28 AM

    Gomis played in 31 league games, but was a sub for most of the first half of the season behind Bony. He only started 18 of those 31 games.

  • 53 southafricantoon // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:34 AM

    I think rivier will come good this year…. He can hold the ball and make good runs. His finishing was poor but not everyone that comes to premier league hits the ground running. I’ll probably get slated but that’s my opinion

  • 54 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:35 AM

    Gomis’s goals earned 10 extra points for Swansea last season, looking at the matches he scored in and the final result (2 points if his goal takes the result from draw to win, 3 if his goal is the only goal of the game, and 1 point if he got a goal to earn a draw).

    10 extra points for our side would have seen us finish in 10th place. Earning more than Gomis would have cost us over the entire season.

  • 55 Jail for Ashley // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:35 AM

    This is the bit where Jib/jeff disappears for a bit till he calms down before appearing with a link from De Bild to impress with yet another language to add to his repitoire.

  • 56 Our Toon // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:38 AM

    Gomis was a bench warmer until Bony left which wasn’t until January but he still did more than Riviere.

    Btw I see Liverpool agreeing a fee for Roberto firmino, a club that massively underachieved last season has made 4 signings already with this soon to be 5th, Milner and Ings already on board. Do they know it’s not 1st of July yet as I keep reading in here as justification for not signing anyone yet!! PLANNING

  • 57 Our Toon // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:42 AM

    Southafrican toon

    The problem with your theory is that Riviere has never been a goalscorer mate, he played as Monaco main striker when Falcao got injured, he had moutinho and rodriguez supplying him and managed 11 goals. I’ve always called him the french heskey but he’s worse than that.

    Look at the guys record, we are blinded by hope, we want these guys to do well but in all reality they are shite….i include the much loved Cabella in this.

  • 58 Lindisfarne // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:46 AM

    Blackley and Brownlie

    I am only anti-Ashley in the sense that he could be doing a much better job of running the club without any further investment from himself and less of a debt burden.

    The Carr / Charnley argument is a revolving door and one simple answer does not apply in all cases.

    By repeating your own words I was illustrating how credulous your perspective is. In the same circumstances, regarding the 200% increase in broadcasting revenue, the previous owners could also have not failed to gain a similar amount of profit. Possibly whilst not losing a small fortune on other sources and not battling against relegation.

  • 59 hibbit // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:47 AM

    jib / jeff / jane = MUTI WUM

  • 60 lesh // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:48 AM


    Yup, I did overlook the rugby at SJP.

    He’ll be using that as justification for doing bugger all!

  • 61 Our Toon // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:50 AM

    Carr and charnley are 2 individuals appointed to shelter MA from blame, just as JFK was when he came on board and signed no one but sold cabaye. MA signs the cheques not Charnley, MA gives the mandate for 1st offer / highest offer. If you think otherwise then you’ve learned nothing from his tenure here!!!

  • 62 Lindisfarne // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:50 AM

    Our Toon @56

    What is this word ‘PLANNING’ and how is it executed?!!

  • 63 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    I wouldn’t be paying Gomis so much money.

    What’s the point of Carr scouting players we can’t afford?

    The DoF should be the one saying to Charnley don’t pay any more than £x for him. He might well have done that.

    That doesn’t justify him advising Charnley to pay a fortune for Cabella and Rivi. There’s people on the blog who have better suggestions than Carr. The seconds are on his list aren’t good enough.

  • 64 Mister Tuff // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:52 AM

    Blackley – you again twist and misrepresent what I have said – as you do with everyone.
    Your latest attempt/lie is “If you think Carr is competent, rock on.”

    I know I have never said that – please provide your evidence to justify what you’ve said – oh you cannot -surprise surprise. You’ll retort with something completely irrelevant to deflect responsibility.
    Can you not go somewhere else as you are spoiling the blog -just as bad as the current infestation of WUMS.

  • 65 Our Toon // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:53 AM


    Ahaha it’s a word I had to look up, a friend of mine who’s a Liverpool supporter used it and I thought I’d better look it up haha. Seriously though do they know it’s 24th June and not 1st July? Why are they signing more players…..unbelievable, they could at least wait until we get an assistant over the line!!

  • 66 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:54 AM

    Ashley went on tv and said he was responsible. “My door”. There’s no need for conspiracy theories. He’s appointed a pair of incompetents.

  • 67 lesh // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:55 AM


    You’ve overlooked the most important aspect of the Rivi-Gomis debate.

    Ashley looks for pound-for-pound value for money in players but the Gomis calculations are based on the Welsh Pound!

  • 68 Our Toon // Jun 24, 2015 at 10:59 AM


    Quick question buddy, how do you know the likes of Cabella or Riviere are 2nd on carrs list? They could be number 20 or 100? Was Carr told go find me a cheap forward below 6m?

    All roads lead back to MA mate, you love to ask others for proof of statements or how they know this to be the case but you have no idea what number Riviere was a Carrs list just like we don’t. We all know why Gomis didn’t come in though and that’s because the owner won’t pay him the Money to join!!

    Anyway off to a meeting catch up soon

  • 69 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:00 AM

    Tuff Guy
    I don’tsee you disagreeing with your blog mates who say he’s competent. I said “if you think…” So are you saying you don’t think he’s competent.

    Your mummy will be back on complaining to me that you want me to leave you and your little group alone and leave the blog. Go tell mummy and I’ll discuss it with her. Just don’t cry … flappings better.

  • 70 lesh // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:01 AM

    Nothing we don’t already know…

  • 71 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:01 AM

    You know you are all wasting your time? He deliberately ignores anything that puts a hole in his argument. When the window slams shut at the end of august, and our squad is still woefully short,despite “attempts” to sign competent players (derisory bids and quibbling over the small change(in football terms) from the money men), then i am sure there will be a whole new set of contribed excuses for Mashley. There is no use arguing with someone like that.

  • 72 martoon // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:01 AM

    Our Toon @62 – Do you really think Ashley has time to be consulted on every transfer deal? At his level he will have set the total transfer budget and possibly the maximum fee on any one player but the rest will be up to Charnley and his staff to work within these constraints. They may consult him if some unusual circumstance occurs but not on every aspect like you are implying.

  • 73 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:02 AM

    *contrived. Phone keypad is a d1ck.

  • 74 Our Toon // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:03 AM


    Ashley went on TV and told you what you wanted to hear, just like politicians go on TV and tell you what they’ll do when they come into power but then completely change when they get there. Are you really that naive to take Ashley at his word on TV?

    He said “now we want to win something” what 9 years later, you’ve been lied to so many times by MA it amazes me that he still has some clinging onto hope from a PR stunt to get fans back onside. Truly shocking!!

  • 75 Lindisfarne // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:03 AM

    Blackley and Brownlie

    You have said yourself that Ashleys’ ownership is not all that good, a perspective many share and I would never stop anyone from expressing themselves. However you do not have the ability to appreciate when you have been misinterpreted, or have misunderstood the facts that you are being ‘corrected’ about and consequently you resort to increasingly belligerent communication.

  • 76 Our Toon // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:07 AM


    From what I’ve heard in the business world no deal is concluded without MA having the final say. So yes I think he has the final say on all transfers, I think Carr and charnley give MA a list of targets and he tells them just how far to goe in negotiations. We are taking millions here and no way MA let’s a tea boy make final decisions on where millions should be spent

    That’s my opinion!!

  • 77 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:08 AM

    There is no DoF. Ashley hasn’t appointed one since Kinnear left. You have no idea what Carr has or hasn’t said to Charnley behind closed doors. He may well have said that Gomis is the better value at £70k then Rivi with a transfer fee plus wages, but been totally ignored as the £70k doesn’t fit our rigid structure.

    Your entire argument is based on your own assumptions, yet you are unwilling to grant any credence to others assumptions. You have zero evidence to back up your thoughts of the inner workings. In fact your assumptions are at odds with how we have been told the club operates by Llambias, Carr and Pardew over the last few years.

    You claim Carr to be DoF, because John Gibson says so, yet refute almost every other media source. Including the clubs own statement regarding the restructuring of the board which states;

    “Head coach Steve McClaren, chief scout Graham Carr and club ambassador Bob Moncur have today been appointed to the Board, joining managing director Lee Charnley.”

    Keep banging your drum, it is becoming more and more evident you aren’t interested in discussion, more just appearing contrary.

  • 78 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:08 AM

    I’m calm as anything bonny lad
    The word is repertoire from repertorium a Roman storehouse .

  • 79 Our Toon // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:10 AM

    Stupid phone, talking millions and go not goe

  • 80 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:10 AM

    Your theory that Carr’s a great scout and Ashley is to blame for the players identified and signed stretches it too far to fit your agenda.

    So Ashley sayss get me a player for £6m? Whrn thevtotal budget is bigger? A player who we pay £6m for and it doesn’t matter whether or not he’s worth it or we overpay? And the French question why we pay so much gor a dud?

    To think Ashley is micro managing is incredible. NUFC might be the centre of your life but it’s smsll beer to Ashley. Why would he want to overpay for a dud just because he sets the bar at £6m? You couldn’t make it up. Your hatred of Ashley and the long time guff you hear from your mates on here has clouded your judgment.

    Get me a striker for £6m?

    Okay Mike, but he’ll be rubbish and we won’t get our money back. He may be on the books for a long time.

    It doesn’t matter. Make sure he’s got a sexy foreign name. It will keep the fans quiet for a few weeks.

  • 81 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:11 AM

    Honestly, he will never concede any point that has the slightest hint that he may be wrong. Ashleys defender. Should change his name to “Lackey and Brown nose”

  • 82 hibbit // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:12 AM

    1* jib / jeff / jane = MUTLI WUM

  • 83 jayphoto // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:12 AM

    Hard to judge a scout as we have no knowledge on how far down the scouts list the club signs! Also, at Newcastle, we rarely use a new player in the way their previous club used them. It’s hard to judge a scout when the manager doesn’t have a clue!
    What I would say about Carr is he doesn’t seem to sign unknowns. The only left field signingS we’ve made in 5 years who weren’t international or European level players are Gouffran, Abeid, Marveaux and Haidara. None of these have really pulled up trees yet.
    Take away 2 that apparently weren’t Carr finds – Tiote – recommended by McClaren after having him at Twente.
    Perez – was actually in talks with Real Madrid before we nabbed him…not well known in England per say but had Spanish u21 caps and was the best player in the Spanish 2nd league. Apparantly scouted by Pardew.
    After that you have Cabaye, Sissoko, Debuchy, Remy, Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa, HBA, Cabella – All had represented france more than once – not hard to ‘unearth gems’ if they’re already in the French national team.
    Papiss Cisse – was the top scorer in Germany playing for the bottom club when we signed him!Remember fans in Germany on this blog calling for him to be signed a year before he was. Had 25+ Senegal caps previous to signing.
    Janmaat – dutch international, had a good world cup when played
    Anita – ajax captain, handful of dutch caps
    Siem de jong – Ajax captain, dutch international.
    Not saying Carr is a bad scout, if we’d signed his first choices, maybe had Lacazette and Remy etc we’d probably be flying. For me the club with amazing scouting is Swansea! They consistently seem to buy players who’s I’ve rarely heard of for very little that slot straight into their side

  • 84 Pootle2118 // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:12 AM

    Morning folks, I hope it’s/was as bright and sunny (weather wise that is) as it is here

  • 85 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:16 AM

    This is part of what Charnley said in his January interview


    “On the football side we look at it as a triangle. That’s me, the head coach and Graham.

    Graham’s role won’t change. In terms of this process he will be heavily involved and will support me with his knowledge, his feedback and his contacts to get some background information on the people we’re speaking to. This will support other research and feedback we have sought and will seek on our preferred candidates. It’s a joined-up process we’re in.

    Clearly he will continue to be an important part of what we do in order to move forward on the field and his relationship with the head coach is something that needs to be strong.”

    That sounds as close to a DoF as Kinnear ever was.

  • 86 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:17 AM

    Have you ever heard of a chief scout on a 4 man board? Where we have a head coach not a manager? With the only other football guy being Bob Moncur? Did you read what John Gibson wrote? You believe the club’s statement if you like.

    I would rather we had a manager not a head coach. Do you understand the difference? If so, explain it please.

  • 87 Our Toon // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:17 AM


    You picked up on 1 example but ignored the rest. Btw please point out where I said Carr is a great scout, I searched for it and couldn’t find it. You love to tell others not to believe everything they read…..well my advice to you is not to believe everything you see on TV….especially when MA comes on the telly to tell you lies.

    As for hating MA, I don’t hate anyone, I dislike him but respect him for how he’s got to where he has.

  • 88 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:20 AM

    Our toon

    Pointless. Dont waste your time. He will have it his way, no matter what you say.

  • 89 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:20 AM

    hibbit = ITK storyteller and fantasy weaver

  • 90 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:20 AM

    Exactly. It says his role hasn’t changed. He’s been de facto DoF for ages. As Gibson says, you’d have to live in a cave in Northumberland not to know this.

  • 91 Lindisfarne // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:22 AM

    Blackley and Brownlie

    I may suggest that anyone with an opinion that is opposite to the anti-Ashley ‘cabal’ is indeed put off entering into the discussion, but largely because of the hostility created by your contribution. You are far from being rhetorical, a better description would be a ‘stopper’ in the flow of opinion causing an eddy of disgruntlement at your lack of comprehension. Where you think you are stoically holding your own, you are largely displaying your credentials to be the Alpha male and failing.

  • 92 Our Toon // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:22 AM


    Very true mate!!

  • 93 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:23 AM

    It sounds to me like his role is exactly what I would expect from a chief scout. Kinnear was apparently in charge of our scouting of domestic players so maybe that is why you think it is similar to him. You may remember him wanting to bring Mick Harford in to assist him in that area.

  • 94 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:23 AM

    The only thing I accept from Ashley is his saying “my door”. Some of you would even argue with that. The horse and cart crap was laughable so no need to advise me.

  • 95 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:25 AM

    Better to let others be the judge. Not me or you.

  • 96 martoon // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:29 AM

    Our Toon @76 – I’m in no way defending Ashley but at his level running a multi-national business with fingers in a lot of other pies as well he just wouldn’t have time to be consulted on every detail of every transfer – this is why he employs people – he just set the overall budgets and strategies.

  • 97 Lindisfarne // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:29 AM


    Swansea also have a consistency of approach engendered by the board and adhered to regardless of who the coach is. A cheapskate approach has a limited ability of success particularly when the leading lights are quickly dispatched.

  • 98 Mister Tuff // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:31 AM

    Blackley the belligerent – spot on.
    Google synonyms for belligerent :-
    hostile, aggressive, threatening, antagonistic, pugnacious, bellicose, truculent, confrontational, argumentative, quarrelsome, disputatious, contentious, militant, combative; quick-tempered, hot-tempered, ill-tempered, bad-tempered, irascible, captious;
    informalspoiling for a fight;
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    Blackley the Belligerent – hahahaha.

  • 99 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:32 AM

    Still no news?

  • 100 Lindisfarne // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:32 AM

    Blackley and Brownlie

    No, I am offering my judgment in the hope that you may engage with others more amicably.

  • 101 Pootle2118 // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:37 AM


    From what I have read on the various headline pages, it seems like its more of the same. However, the Express have stated that we “tabled a bid of £14M for Austin compared with the £13.75M on offer from Southampton” Whether this is fact or just paper selling mumbo jumbo I guess it’s a case of wait and see.

    Apart from that, how things going mate, you having a good day so far?

  • 102 expatmag // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:37 AM


    The blog idiot strikes again. My god, has there ever been a bigger fool on this blog?

  • 103 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:37 AM

    Do you follow Portuguese footy ?

  • 104 expatmag // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:39 AM


    Dont waste your time mate. He is beyond help.

  • 105 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:40 AM

    What does whether I have heard of having a chief scout on a board before matter? I’ve never heard of a Head Coach being on a board either. Just more evidence to the fact that Ashley wants to run on a skeleton structure, rather than getting people in to do specific jobs.

    A head coach is involved with the training and the day to day involvement with the players. He is also in charge of team selection and tactics (in most cases). A manager would have greater involvement in the functioning of the club, including the arrangement of pre season tours, transfers and non footballing matters.

    Personally, I’m more than happy operating with the Head coach model, if the club was setup to operate in that way. It isn’t though, because that would mean having to employ appropriate people in the specific roles.

    Still, none of that means we operate with a DoF. Just that a DoF should have been appointed years ago, rather than relying on people to fill several roles. If Carr was the DoF then we wouldn’t need McClaren to meet the players, and our transfers would have been well under way by now as that would be one of his main responsibilities. He also wouldn’t be doing much scouting, as he would just run the rule over those recommended by the scouting team, which ould funnily enough remove him from the blame for purchases, much as you are trying to do with Charnley.

    I read what John Gibson wrote, seems strange that you would take a journalists word for it. We must have missed out on a lot of targets then as well in your mind.

  • 106 bettyswallocks // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:40 AM

    Blackley……….. Carr has a remit to identify and assess young players with a sell on value that are likely to improve. He has been doing this for years and very few have turned into signings.

    Within that remit, Charnley as the man to get Ashley value for his pound has scratched and scratted about to find players near the end of their contracts and with cheap buy out clauses.

    If Carrs choices were signed on footballing ability alone then I’m sure we would have a very good squad. He is well respected in the game and also at our club, which is why he is on the board.

    The finalising of deals on players is down to Charnley who is more intent on getting the greedy one pound for pound value.

  • 107 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:41 AM

    Not so much anymore, why? Difficult to watch over here as internet struggles with streaming more often than not.

  • 108 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:42 AM

    Thanks Pootle,
    ah you know same shit different day 🙂

  • 109 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:42 AM

    Clarky is hoping a bit

  • 110 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:43 AM

    The reason why Swanseas signings seem to fit in so well is because of the coaching and style of play

    For the last 4 years we have had no style of play or if we have its one that does not suit the players

    I think a lot of our players will improve dramatically under Mclaren’s coaching so much so a lot of them will look more than decent

  • 111 Pootle2118 // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:46 AM


    Same here mate. What do you reckon on the Express headline, mumbo jumbo or do you think it has some meat on it?

  • 112 Whumpie // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:47 AM

    Anyone surprised?
    Of course not. Ashley did precisely what he had to in order to maximise season ticket sales and avoid the whole organisation unraveling. If he hadn’t done that interview, most of our squad would be trying to leave and nobody would want to come.
    As it is, um… well, actually he failed.
    The best we can hope for is more of the same; mid-table squads with the odd relegation fight, year after year, until the fans learn not to turn up.
    Why, after 7 years, would we expect any different?

  • 113 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:48 AM

    There is a young Mexican , Diego Reyes plays Centre of defence for Porto . Moyes is after him.

    However the Spanish tv pundit I was listening to , in passing said McClaren enquired about him in January.

    Wondered if you knew the kid.
    He’s a mexican international.

  • 114 Mister Tuff // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:49 AM

    expat – morning/evening. Yes indeed Blackley the Belligerent Blockhead has reverted to type.
    Let it be a warning to fellow bloggers that if you engage with him – standby for a never ending circular argument.
    When you win the debate he’ll want to arrest you (citizens arrest).
    Then he cries :-
    “infamy infamy they’ve all got it in for me”.
    What a tart.

  • 115 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:49 AM


    I’m not so sure The Express is a terrible newspaper but I hope its true

  • 116 Whumpie // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:50 AM

    On a brighter note, a very good charity is auctioning off various goodies, including this:
    Get a bid in!

  • 117 davetoon // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:51 AM

    some people have short memories

  • 118 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:53 AM

    I would say that the tea boy rides on the back of Carr’s footballing credentials so Carr hasn’t got autonomy as other DoFs.

  • 119 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:54 AM

    Can’t help I’m afraid. Heard the name, but can’t remember ever seeing him in action. I’ve seen some Mexico games where he may have played, but not noticeably.

  • 120 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:55 AM

    I’ll be telling your mummy about what her little golden boy’s been saying.

  • 121 jayphoto // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:56 AM

    @110 – Agree with that. I think we have some players with the technical ability to really improve under the right coaching. Cabella, Anita and Perez should all be expected to move up an extra level next season.
    Think we need some real leadership on the pitch, De Jong should give us that (theres a few rumours circulating that his lung will give him permanent problems though)
    Think we really missed a trick not signing Ayew

  • 122 Jail for Ashley // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:57 AM

    So you reckon Carr should get the boot.

  • 123 bettyswallocks // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:59 AM

    Blackley……… That’s a contradiction to your claims that Carr isn’t fit for purpose.

    Within the confines of how signings are made at our club, Carr has done a good job.

  • 124 Pootle2118 // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:59 AM


    I know what you mean in regards to the express. Saying that, most of the papers, broadsheet and ragtop alike, were always printing some far fetched stuff as far as football was concerned.
    The one paper I found that was different was the Daily Sport. Simply because, it didn’t have to rely on back page sensations to boost sales, the ridiculous front page headlines and virtual cover to cover nudity guaranteed their sales figures. That meant that most of the sports stuff they printed was bang on the money, it also helped that its owner was (and is) a football chairman so the paper got plenty of inside scoops.
    Damn I miss the Daily Sport, I used to love reading those classic headlines like “Aliens came and turned my boy into a fish finger”. Journalistic gold

  • 125 expatmag // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:02 PM


    Rarely have I seen one so old act as one so young. It must be embarrassing for him.

  • 126 YoungMagpieFromBurnley // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:03 PM

    Good afternoon/morning guys 🙂

    so, still nothing concrete in the news. Should be expected. If getting players sold is this difficult then I hope they learn from this in the future. We should be offering players to other clubs who might want them. If not then we are going to have to terminate more contracts, I know that will cost but if we go into the new season with this team it will most likely end badly, with other teams improving.

  • 127 Pootle2118 // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:05 PM

    Morning Young Magpie

    Yep, nothing concrete as of yet so same old story at the mo

  • 128 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:11 PM

    Pootle do you know I didn’t even know the sport had ceased to be.
    I always thought the News Of The World was pretty close but then again theres probably a reason why it was!!

  • 129 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:16 PM

    Aye aye. Mummy’s here. Your little boy throws stones at old Blackley and then runs to tell mummy tht a bad old man’s picking on him.

  • 130 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:19 PM

    Oh ffs

    How purile! This is the REAL reason people stop posting here, nowt to do with the anti ashley stuff (since MOST agree with it). It’s childish prattle like that.

  • 131 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:20 PM

    I don’t see it as a contradiction. The tea boy and thecold man are incompetent. The tea boy piggy backs the old man’s football credentials. However, it is vlear that the old man has a great deal of input that the tea boy acts upon. Pity it’s duff input. Between the two of them, they’re wasting money on too many duds that Carr has identified and has surely put a maximum price on.

  • 132 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:20 PM

    you got it spot on YCMIU

  • 133 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:21 PM

    What about – missing wartime B17 found crashed on the moon – or the fabulous – Lord Lucan spotted riding Shergar

  • 134 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:23 PM

    they were actual headlines?
    How did the sport get away with it?

  • 135 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:23 PM


    Can you all just let Lackey and Brown nose have the final say? I know that most of us can see how riddled with holes his assumtions are, but if we respond, he’s just going to go round and round covering old ground. It will never end. Let him think he is right. Ignorance is bliss.

  • 136 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:24 PM

    You’re the one who said people should forget about shit that a fellow blogger had posted about them if it was a few hours back. I can’t imagine you wouldn’t respond to someone posting shit about you and your views just because a little time had passed. The same culprits talk to people like shit. They cant help themselves. It was going on long before I came on here. Well I support anyone who gives it to them back.

  • 137 bettyswallocks // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:25 PM

    Blackley……….. Your criticism of Graham Carr is the issue here. It’s not about you personally or name calling.

    Hopefully the transfer policy has become more flexible after the shambles of last season.

    Scouting in France to try and copy Wengers model with no money to spend despite recommendations for Remy, PEA,lacazette etc. doesn’t make Carr poor at his job.

    You’re just wrong on this one.

  • 138 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:30 PM


  • 139 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:31 PM


    Look,I know you wont accept any wrongdoing on your part. You can rant and rave till your heart’s content, then play victim. I just hope people stop trying to convince you to do otherwise.

  • 140 expatmag // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:32 PM


    Unfortunately the blog idiot doesnt know when to shut up. I agree. Best policy is to ignore the dipstick.

  • 141 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:33 PM

    I think they eventually got sued by so many people they folded
    But it was a hell of a laugh at the time and as Pootle says their sports stuff was spot on.

  • 142 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:34 PM

    Thanks Jib

  • 143 optimistic prime // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:37 PM


    My grasp of the English launguage doesn’t make me invent stories or make false claims, unlike yourself.

  • 144 Pootle2118 // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:38 PM

    TfL – The Daily Sport still going although I think it’s only printed once a week. Not sure if the Sunday Sport is still going, I may have to heck that one out. Purely for the sports section that is (cough cough) And yes…these are all real headlines mate

    JIB – Yes that was a classic, along with “Statue of Elvis seen on Mars” or “London bus found trapped in iceberg” or my all time favourite ” Woman born with no fanni but couldn’t give a fk”

  • 145 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:43 PM

    Without wanting to stick my head above the parapet, what is going on here with all the backbiting, sniping and general snidey comments?
    I thought the WUMs had disappeared today but they seem to have all merged into Blackley!

  • 146 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:45 PM

    Pootle sounds like it was the “comedy” paper lol

  • 147 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:45 PM

    Graham Carr scouting in France

  • 148 Pootle2118 // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:47 PM


    No idea mate, I gave my opinion on the state of play yesterday so as far as my involvement goes, it’s done and dusted, next debate please. That’s why I haven’t chipped in with either side and due to the lack of news in regards to signings, I’m just having a chinwag with a couple of online mates and reminiscing about the most ridiculous day newspaper there has ever been

  • 149 Jail for Ashley // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:48 PM

    I wrote an impassioned letter to the powers that be at asking would they have Blackley back. I was showered with electronic rotten fruit and veg !

  • 150 jayphoto // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:49 PM

    To be honest, players Carr suggested that never signed –
    Douglas (been excellent in Russia)
    Those 4 players have gone on to excel and were probably Carrs first choices
    Last season we needed a striker. Before signing Riviere they first tried to sign Loic Remy, then Lasogga, then they messed around with Lacazette all summer, aswell as enquiring about Gameiro (again) . Add the fact that they offered Gomis’ agent reportedly half of what Swansea would pay and enquired about Diafra Sakho and that would suggest that Riviere could have been anything from 5th-10th choice pick.
    Im guessing Charnley is signing the cheap players that ‘possibly’ could make an impact.
    Needs to now sign the players that WILL make an impact.

  • 151 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:50 PM

    I can’t believe it sold Pootle lol

  • 152 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:51 PM

    Jib Wasn’t that the Von Trapp family?

  • 153 the white tino // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:53 PM

    Blackeye your one big tit mate probs your the one still tied to mammys apron strings what a twat

  • 154 Lee Charnley Bunga Party // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:53 PM

    If Carr is out scouting games every weekend and looking at players when does he have the time to watch our games ?

    Just wondering because we have needed a right winger and centre backs for years and we have bought a lot of players so surely just watching us you could see where we are weak and identify the players ?

    Or do we just go for who is cheapest and potentially sell for profit ?

  • 155 Jail for Ashley // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:54 PM

    Na mate, that’s far too sensible of an assumption, more like Mikey said get Remy at all costs but GC said no Mikey he’s too expensive try this mug instead.

  • 156 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:54 PM

    This time I think they have learned and will.
    The frustrating delays at the moment are caused by different circumstances to the previous few seasons p**sfa*ting about

  • 157 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:56 PM

    Leeds it looks very much like the elysee palace.
    Waiting to meet the French prezzy I think

  • 158 WWSBRD // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:56 PM

    Christ this Carr craic still on going?
    24 hours and counting by now?

    On another note I didnt get a response earlier Blackley did u used to go by a different name on here?

  • 159 Pootle2118 // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:57 PM


    I think it sold mainly because there was a a topless pic on virtually every page. The Sun had a p3 the sport had a p3,5,7,8,9,10,11,etc. Normally a centre page bevvy of between 2-7 girls, it was literally a daily porn mag in the guise of a newspaper. It had no age restriction on it so therefore horny 12 & 13yo could buy it on the way to school. I think the only pages that didn’t have a topless shot on them were the 2-3 pages of escort (sorry masseurs) adverts and the sports pages

  • 160 Sazzer // Jun 24, 2015 at 12:57 PM

    Lé Toon Armé ?@shaimoss
    Well if @EDs_amy is right and we do sign Bas Dost I’ll win £100 and if she’s wrong she’s stripping off for @Zoo .. #WinWin lol #NUFC

  • 161 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:01 PM


    Honestly, mate… just don’t give him any ammo. Best just to forget it.

  • 162 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:04 PM

    The missus and I were talking about this the other day.
    The 80’s seemed much less restricted than now.
    ITV had a political puppet show called “Spitting Image” and no public figure was safe , everyone , and I mean everyone was mocked on it , society is much more litigious these days,

  • 163 Pootle2118 // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:05 PM

    Well, I don’t know what to make of this one

    according to SportsWitness Chievo Verona and Sassuolo are joining Newcastle in the hunt for the signature of Abel Hernandez (Hull)

  • 164 Jail for Ashley // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:09 PM

    Sussed it, all the signings are stuck on the wrong side of the English channel in heavy traffic, mashers saved money by trucking them over.

  • 165 YoungMagpieFromBurnley // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:11 PM

    This is the most depressing thing waiting for something to be announced, At this moment in time anything will do. I’m sick of waiting and being in the dark on what the club are trying to do.

    Where is the communication? oh, that’s right. Ban most media outlets and this is where we are. Sometimes I hate this club, but I always come running back. A vicious cycle.

  • 166 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:12 PM

    That could have legs
    We were linked with him when he was at Palermo

  • 167 Lindisfarne // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:13 PM

    Soon to be arriving by the boat load – that is a relief.

  • 168 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:14 PM

    Jib I remember Spitting Image
    The chicken song lol

  • 169 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:16 PM

    I’m surprised at what you say
    If the club did a daily update on who we were after.People on here would be on their case straight away if we got a transfer hijacked.

  • 170 jayphoto // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:18 PM

    Pootle – Pretty sure the club have kept tabs on Hernandez a few seasons now.
    Didn’t really take to the premier league like a duck to water but then Henry took 6 months to settle…
    He’s definitely got pace and a trick or too….
    I’d settle for him signing as a second striker providing we sign a first choice striker too that will impact the first team.

  • 171 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:21 PM

    I know Hull were poor but so was Hernandez

  • 172 YoungMagpieFromBurnley // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:22 PM


    I understand that mate, it’s just I would have thought that something would have been anounced by now, I.e coaching staff, a couple of players. We take a long time to do most things which is what I’m depressed about.

    Most people wanted rid of Pardew- took 4 years and he left on his own accord, he would still be here otherwise.

    John Carver took a month to be announced in January.

    Steve mcclaren took a long time aswell yet everyone knew it was going to be him.

    it just seems like everything is delayed which leaves us with less time each day. I just hope something is announced soon.

  • 173 Munster Mag // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:24 PM

    I would be concerned at this point that we may not get another coach, and let Steve do all, and would promote Beardsley to be his assistant and get in someone else to replace him. Pardew took ages to sign a coach, and made a bad choice. Re Carr, I have slagged him off in the past, largely because of the undying love that some fans have for him. In reality, as we dont know his budgets, we cant assume that he really wants the average blokes we buy, but really wanted better, but Ash wud not pay. If not, some of his choices stink and he has got away with murder.

  • 174 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:25 PM

    He cost Hull £10million and is on £37500 per week . He looked good at times in a poor Hull side . Fits the club template – just – he’s 25 in a few weeks.If he had a standout season under the tutelage of Supermac they could triple the tranfer fee.
    Perhaps a double transfer for him and El Mohamedy for £15million would tempt fatty Bruce.

  • 175 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:25 PM

    I would rather we signed Javier Hernandez than Abel

  • 176 Mister Tuff // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:27 PM

    A week to go and there is still no news of Wally getting an assistant or other staff.
    Players return a week today and it has to be said that it is really cutting it short in respect of further coaching staff.
    I would have hoped that Wally lays the law down about who he wants -he may well do yet.
    So -so far- I repeat so far -not much evidence to suggest the regime has changed.

  • 177 jayphoto // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:29 PM

    @Jib – didn’t really see much of Hull last year, tried not to watch them because the rugby lines on their pitch are dead annoying, but I’ve seen a couple of fans on here mention El-Mohammedy now. He any good? Don’t think I’ve ever watched a game or highlight where I’ve noticed him

  • 178 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:33 PM

    how about flora hernandez

  • 179 YoungMagpieFromBurnley // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:35 PM


    did you not see his handball goal against us which was disallowed? cheating barsteward.

    he can whip a good ball in though.

  • 180 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:36 PM

    If you saw Hulls game against us
    He was the guy that clearly handled but tried to claim the goal

  • 181 Pootle2118 // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:36 PM


    I’ve been banging that drum for months now. I must admit, before my very first blog post on Friday, all about how signing Javier would be great because of price experience, I hadn’t seen or heard any sort of link between Javier and NUFC. Now it seems like the link is cropping up all over the place as if it had been on the cards for months. Maybe it has but, as I haven’t seen any of these links previously, I am staking claim to being the person that suggested the signing originally and if we do sign him, I’ll be e-mailing FCW with regards to my finders fee. (the bairns have seen some nice stuff in SD so I could do with the vouchers)

  • 182 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:37 PM

    Snap lol

  • 183 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:38 PM

    West Ham want Wijnaldum but our interest is “REAL”

  • 184 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:39 PM

    Pootle it was suggested at weekend by a blog but I agree Javier is the man we need

  • 185 YoungMagpieFromBurnley // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:39 PM

    jib lol 🙂

  • 186 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:39 PM

    If you do get a finders fee
    The money would be better spent on getting your bairns some specs

  • 187 bettyswallocks // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:39 PM

    We will definitely be waiting until the end of the transfer window to bag some bargains. Value for money is high on the list of criteria.

    Hopefully we have identified two or three main targets and been in contact with agents. Sharp business practise when dealing with agents, ie incentives, may work to our advantage.

  • 188 Oldgit1 // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:40 PM

    Nothing new today. By all accounts. As some stated earlier it’s like Groundhog Day. Hope we get the coaching staff sorted. Oh I have decided not to renew my season ticket. 60 yrs Iv surported this team for what? A club who does not communicate with their supporters and treating them with contempt will continue.

    I have a hatred of accountants like Lee charnley. Money always come first. To hell with employees there sole purpose is to reduce costings year by year. They are a breed of people that have put people out of work and cause disruption in families, communities, and have no conscience. He will be the reason this club stagnates.

  • 189 jayphoto // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:43 PM

    ooh yeah I forgot about that!
    I meant I’ve never seen him do anything noteable on highlights or in a game in a positive way.
    For the handball cheating alone I’d rather we didn’t have players like that!

  • 190 Sazzer // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:44 PM

    15 m £ for 2 Hull players? Their whole team isn’t even worth 15 m £.

  • 191 YoungMagpieFromBurnley // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:47 PM


    Pmsl :’D

    ours won’t be soon.

  • 192 jayphoto // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:52 PM

    don’t really believe many of the rumours circulating currently. I think the Austin rumour is agents play combined with NUFC trying to hide who they really are trying to sign. I was hoping it was Mitrovic.
    I believe the Thauvin link. His sell on value could be epic if he takes to the premier league. In McClaren they’ve appointed a manager who’s primary positive attribute is developing players. Be shocked if we sign anyone over 25.
    My bet is 1 centre half, 1 winger, 2 strikers and that’ll be it unless sissoko is sold.

  • 193 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:53 PM

    Things to do when bored

    Number 22 — Make a Lee Charnley

  • 194 Sazzer // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:56 PM

    Definitely heading in that direction. 15 m £ Austin would get just over the line.

  • 195 Our Toon // Jun 24, 2015 at 1:59 PM

    Old git

    I feel for you mate I really do, quite a few of us have turned our backs on this regime and that means not going to SJP anymore. Weekends are quite the same but it’s all for a good cause….get them all out

  • 196 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jun 24, 2015 at 2:01 PM


    Credit where it is due. That is funny. I even compared it to a recent photo of him. Couldn’t help laughing.

  • 197 aussiemag // Jun 24, 2015 at 2:02 PM

    Yet another day rolls by and we once again are talking about the same old story which is absolutely nothing

  • 198 N1CK06 // Jun 24, 2015 at 2:07 PM

    So most agree what players we need, but if we are hoping for Austin or similar for ~15m, then a second striker (5-10m), a decent winger and CB at ~10m each then that’s a grand total of 40-45m.

    Does anyone really see Ashley spending over 40m in a single transfer window?

    If only his little talk wasn’t solely intended at selling more season tickets, then that’s what I’d expect an ambitious owner to be spending.

  • 199 davetoon // Jun 24, 2015 at 2:13 PM

    wouldve looked more like him if you drew on the end of your c0ck 😛

  • 200 WWSBRD // Jun 24, 2015 at 2:13 PM

    NUFC spent 37 mill last summer mate

  • 201 LooneyToon41 // Jun 24, 2015 at 2:18 PM

    The whole Director of Football ‘debate’ relating to those on the Board is an interesting one. My 2c :-
    Assuming there’s one more Board member to be appointed, as we currently don’t have an FD –
    Who within the hierarchy has the knowledge to assess a players valuation, and also salary worth.
    Let’s not forget the infamous story of Seth Johnson signing for Leeds and being given a £35k a week contract by Peter Ridsdale, when he and his agent were happy to settle for £15k a week…
    So, this kind of decision is pretty important. Who holds the knowledge?
    I think you can discount MA straight away.
    Steve McClaren (and before him Pardew).. no, I don’t think so.
    So that leaves only Carr and Charnley.
    Charnley is an admin man, former football secretary. Good at making sure contracts are legal and filing tax returns on time, as well as managing HR.
    So, question is… does Lee Charnley have the knowledge to evaluate Charlie Austin should be earning £80k a week or £100k a week. In my opinion, the answer is evidently NO.
    So, that leaves Carr as the only ‘DOF’ figure apparent.

  • 202 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 2:20 PM

    No room on mine for tattoos

    I’ve got one that says LUDO
    Then magically turns into

  • 203 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 24, 2015 at 2:27 PM

    Even Redknapp is telling him to come here

  • 204 N1CK06 // Jun 24, 2015 at 2:29 PM


    That might be true, but look who we sold in the 2 windows before that. Debuchy, Mbiwa and Cabaye were sold for a total of around 36m. So basically just breaking even.

    Maybe I should’ve rephrased that. Do you he will net spend 40m this window without selling more players?

  • 205 davetoon // Jun 24, 2015 at 2:30 PM

    I’m sure theres a joke about Welshie in there somewhere but its best left well alone

  • 206 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jun 24, 2015 at 2:35 PM

    Mone just has WY on it….

    It extends to say Welcome to Newcastle, enjoy your day.

  • 207 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jun 24, 2015 at 2:36 PM


  • 208 Jib // Jun 24, 2015 at 2:38 PM

    Charlie Austin is 26 next month
    If he comes he will be one month older than Shearer when he joined us
    If we get 10 years 303 games 148 goals I’ll be well happy
    I know there was no window then , but Shearer didn’t sign for us until July 30th and the first league game was 17th August.

  • 209 Tsunki // Jun 24, 2015 at 2:39 PM

    I’m so glad Ed finally got rid of the really irritating wind up Jib and now we’ve got only the…one.. er… um….. oh.

  • 210 Tsunki // Jun 24, 2015 at 2:40 PM

    So what did happen with the extra jib and welshgeordie? Did belfast dob them in as he said he would? Who was it? Tell!

  • 211 welshgeordie9 // Jun 24, 2015 at 2:43 PM

    Someone mention Welshie?

  • 212 WWSBRD // Jun 24, 2015 at 2:51 PM

    Haha I was just being a dick mate, its what I do haha

    In answer to that question though no, net spend wont be that high but Id say in the range of 10-20 mill net, I expect Cisse, Tiote, Abied, Williamson add maybe Anita and Sissoko to that to add some, obviously, deeply needed funds…massive debt….high wages…scouting costs…erm…manager wages had to sack so many u know now bringing in new people all adds up….helicopter fuel! Do u know how much fuel it takes to get that thing with Ashley in the air?

    I mean really we should all think ourselves lucky we arent like Portsmouth Shepard nearly bankrupted us dont u know

    All hail the saviour Ashley

  • 213 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 24, 2015 at 2:54 PM

    Santon goin to Watford

  • 214 aussiemag // Jun 24, 2015 at 2:56 PM

    Mike Cashleys new favourite song sung to the tune of the soup dragons I’M Free

    Those players are on a free i will buy them up everytime
    Yes there on frees i love that they only cost a nickle and dime
    Cause i love frees i get hard for frees
    Thats right i love frees i dream of frees
    Cause theyre free!
    I buy em cheap and sell them of at a profit when they start to shine
    Dont be afraid of the Bosman

    maybe the lads can turn this into a new song to sing on matchday


  • 215 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 24, 2015 at 3:07 PM

    No. I’ve not been anyone else on here. After I got banned from Toonsy’s blog, I slipped back on for a while as Leslie Chow. Had great fun as Leslie.

  • 216 aussiemag // Jun 24, 2015 at 3:23 PM

    Ffs even Swansea and Southampton already have sorted their transfers by the looks of this

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