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Report That Thauvin Has Turned Newcastle Down

11:40 pm, Wednesday, June 24th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 82 Comments

The Star is reporting tonight that Newcastle put in an improved bid for Florian Thauvin, from the £10.75M bid put in as the initial bid, and Marseilles accepted the second bid.

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Florian Thauvin – report that he rejected move to Newcastle

But Thauvin did not want to come to Newcastle and turned us down as he holds out for a move to north London – to either Arsenal or Tottenham.

Newcastle’s second bid was said to be £14M,  which is what Marseilles requested, and that allowed Newcastle to open up negotiations with the player and his agent.

But it’s really hard to know whether this report has any truth to it.

Newcastle have had three poor seasons in a row in the Premier League, with two of them  fighting relegation,  including last season when we missed the drop only after winning the very last game of the season.

That was our only win in the last 11 games, during which time we suffered nine defeats, some of them heavy defeats,  and eight defeats in a row for the first time ever in the Premier League.

Because of that record and Newcastle’s name not being what it used to be  –  it was always going to be difficult to get players to Newcastle this summer.

And that seems to be playing itself out,  with a number of players seeming to be unwilling to join Newcastle, at least early in this transfer window.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



Tags: Recruitment · Scouting Network · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target




82 responses so far ↓

  • 1 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:44 PM

    A horse called Custodial runs 7pm tomorrow at Newbury. It’s Charlie Austin’s

  • 2 OneAlanShearer // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:45 PM

    I don’t care. There’s better out there.

  • 3 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:45 PM

    If Thauvin doesn’t want to come then sod him

  • 4 NOVA2967 // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:49 PM

    Don’t want him either. Come on scouting team, this dude is five years to late. Shaqiri is free to leave Inter… whoops

  • 5 geordie157 // Jun 24, 2015 at 11:51 PM

    Get wijnaldum who is a much better player and is more suited to the premier league.

  • 6 toontall // Jun 25, 2015 at 12:03 AM

    Never liked this guys attitude, trouble maker in the making

  • 7 NOVA2967 // Jun 25, 2015 at 12:07 AM

    Konoplyanka—–Austin—-Shaqiri
    ——————de jong
    ————–tiote———cabeye

    top 6 if we keep willo jk

  • 8 Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund // Jun 25, 2015 at 12:08 AM

    Like others I’m not keen on him, we’ve already seen what that type of player can do for us in Cabella; i.e not much.

    That said, if true, this is becoming a worrying trend.

  • 9 lesh // Jun 25, 2015 at 12:21 AM

    Could this story have come from Bishop’s office,I wonder.

    It could even relieve some of the mounting pressure of fan discontent over the lack of incomers.

    Just a thought.

  • 10 musomag // Jun 25, 2015 at 12:30 AM

    Sod this I’m going to Glastonbury

  • 11 lesh // Jun 25, 2015 at 12:54 AM

    Musomag

    Enjoy!

    😉

  • 12 willowdalerez // Jun 25, 2015 at 1:12 AM

    I’m not sure I buy the story but he’s the same type of player as Cabella so wasn’t keen on him in any event unless we are selling Cabella

  • 13 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM

    Even Steve Harper is telling Ashley to open his wallet
    https://nufcdigest.wordpress.com/2015/06/25/steve-harpers-message-to-newcastle-owner-mike-ashley/

  • 14 Magpie Season // Jun 25, 2015 at 2:15 AM

    Good player but looks very lightweight, like Cabella, to cope with physicality of the Premier League.

    Thought Ed said we would be perusing the English market. I doubted that.

    Also, with Austin. If he were ‘that’ good I am sure a club such as Tottenham or Southampton would have signed him by now since they are quick to do their transfer work.

  • 15 Magpie Season // Jun 25, 2015 at 2:17 AM

    NOVA2967,

    Mate, would you want Konoployanka here at >100k per week in wages?

  • 16 Our Toon // Jun 25, 2015 at 2:43 AM

    I keep reading things like lightweight and I can’t get my head around it. Cabella isn’t lightweight he’s shit, David Silva, Raheem Sterling, Edin Hazard, Santi Carzola, Juan Mata are all lightweight but they don’t seem to have any issues especially David Silva

    We had a little fella named Nobby Solano he played when the league was even more physical than it is now. Lightweight is an excuse which doesn’t sit right with me….Cabella is just shite!!

  • 17 ToonFromLeeds // Jun 25, 2015 at 2:44 AM

    Our Toon

    you are spot on

  • 18 will die for the toon army // Jun 25, 2015 at 3:44 AM

    We move to plan B

  • 19 Santon03 // Jun 25, 2015 at 4:19 AM

    With the same money I prefer Wijnaldum than thauvin.

    I doubt we bid this guy, he is more expensive than Dost. We haven’t conclude Dost transfer and with extra 1million we get Austin, so I doubt this news.
    It doesn’t make sense, unless he was our #1 target not Austin or Dost.

  • 20 Chris // Jun 25, 2015 at 4:22 AM

    Ed writes:

    “Newcastle have had three poor seasons in a row in the Premier League, with two of them fighting relegation…….Because of that record and Newcastle’s name not being what it used to be – it was always going to be difficult to get players to Newcastle this summer”

    Sorry, but I don’t really buy that argument. If it’s currently three poor seasons in a row it means that this time last year we’d already had two poor seasons in a row (with one of them fighting relegation) but that didn’t prevent us from attracting the likes of Janmaat, Perez and SDJ, so I don’t see why it should be any different this summer. There are plenty of quality players out there who’d be happy to join us, provided the club was willing (and able) to match the wages that they’d be offered elsewhere. I think most of them wouldn’t really give a toss about what happened last season or the season before – there are a number of far more important things that would influence their decision.

  • 21 SA Toon // Jun 25, 2015 at 4:50 AM

    If that is true then leave him and move on. He’s a good player, but we need commitment. I like the look of Konoplyanka and Wijnaldum. Either would be good acquisitions. Btw can anyone explain the rules regarding transfers before the official opening of the transfer window on 1 July?

  • 22 Santon03 // Jun 25, 2015 at 5:00 AM

    SA Toon

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_window

  • 23 Santon03 // Jun 25, 2015 at 5:07 AM

    Chris

    Each person has different views on 3 bad seasons, 2013/14 we finished 10th some will say that’s bad season if they think we should be in top 6 every season.

  • 24 cyprus // Jun 25, 2015 at 5:41 AM

    We met their asking price and the player still doesn’t want to come? DON’T insist.

    Given our new mission: We should be looking for top players who want a career here. And, more importantly, who want to lift the team to the next level themselves. They won’t be walking in a CL team, but they must dream to make it one.

    So, no more stepping stones. This IS Sparta.

  • 25 SA Toon // Jun 25, 2015 at 5:54 AM

    Thanks Cyprus 03.

  • 26 SA Toon // Jun 25, 2015 at 5:55 AM

    Sorry – Santon 03. A little early in the morning for me perhaps!

  • 27 Jail for Ashley // Jun 25, 2015 at 6:13 AM

    Santon03,
    Are you suggesting that 14/15 season was a good season, or if not a good season at least not bad based solely on our league positiin.

  • 28 Santon03 // Jun 25, 2015 at 6:16 AM

    JFA

    wtf is wrong with you? I said 2013/14.

  • 29 Jail for Ashley // Jun 25, 2015 at 6:21 AM

    Santon03,
    Are you suggesting that 13/14 season was a good season, or if not a good season at least not bad based solely on our league positiin.

  • 30 Santon03 // Jun 25, 2015 at 6:24 AM

    it’s ok season as we didn’t expect to be in top 6 or bottom half of the table. unless you are expecting top 6 finish then it’s bad season.

  • 31 Jail for Ashley // Jun 25, 2015 at 6:33 AM

    Santon,
    We exited the FA cup in the very first round, we lost a then record of consecutive games, we lost more than 25% of games conceding three or more goals, we conceded 59 goals, the fifth worse in the division. Our strikers managed 22 goals between them all season. The season was very deliberately written off in January when we were obviously safe, there was nothing good about it in any way, shape or form.

  • 32 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jun 25, 2015 at 6:52 AM

    Cyprus…it’s very difficult to ask that of any player when we clearly don’t have any ambitions!

  • 33 Santon03 // Jun 25, 2015 at 6:55 AM

    i didn’t say good season or bad season, we finished 10th in the league as expected especially with injuries. if you are asking about performance or playing style then it was not good, i don’t like pardew and i was one of sackpardew.com.
    like i said everyone entitle to their own views of last 3 seasons. As I see it we have 2 bad seasons 1 ok season.

  • 34 Jail for Ashley // Jun 25, 2015 at 7:02 AM

    A bean counter would look at that tenth spot and say job well done, TV money banked wage bill reduced, a football fan would look at that season and say what an utterly horrendous waste of time.

  • 35 jazzyp // Jun 25, 2015 at 7:03 AM

    Hahaha people having there views put right by good old jail again

  • 36 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jun 25, 2015 at 7:05 AM

    Morning jazzy 🙂

    …each day here is like Groundhog Day! We are so lucky!

    It’s a joy!

  • 37 Santon03 // Jun 25, 2015 at 7:06 AM

    ok ok, jail. horror 3 seasons, f#ck ashley, ashley out, go to hell ashley!

    there you go, happy?

  • 38 mickalfas // Jun 25, 2015 at 7:09 AM

    When the instructions are under no circumstances are we to qualify for Europe ,in case we risk relegation ,10th must be a more or less perfect season
    It’s the lack of ambition to push on to greater things that’s the worry

  • 39 jazzyp // Jun 25, 2015 at 7:10 AM

    Jesper
    Morning matey how are we today.
    Question …..out of all players linked who would you like brought into the club ???

  • 40 Jail for Ashley // Jun 25, 2015 at 7:14 AM

    Jazzyp,
    What’s the point in a blog if you just accept what somebody else is saying if you don’t agree with it !

  • 41 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jun 25, 2015 at 7:14 AM

    Jazzy…that’s a very good question. I liked the idea of that Matip fella. How about you?

  • 42 Blackley and Brownlie // Jun 25, 2015 at 7:17 AM

    Chris
    Attracting Janmaat, Perez and SDJ? Janmaat is steady, nothing flash. He gets bigged up far too much,especially on here. He’s no better than Danny Simpson when he was here. SDJ appears to be a sick note. It could be that other scouts knew that. As for Perez, according to Graham Carr’s judgment, he was one for the future. If he had come with a big reputation and price tag, you’d have been disappointed by his first season. No wonder this club flirts with relegation.

  • 43 Jail for Ashley // Jun 25, 2015 at 7:20 AM

    Blackley,
    Jaanmatt/ Danny Simpson, you sure ?

  • 44 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jun 25, 2015 at 7:27 AM

    But overall I think we need to establish a playing style and some sort of philosophy to know which players would the blue print;

    …otherwise it’s just names to me 🙂

  • 45 mickalfas // Jun 25, 2015 at 7:28 AM

    Perez might have been bought for the development squad ,but let’s face its a good job be was here
    Possibly relegated without him

  • 46 jazzyp // Jun 25, 2015 at 7:35 AM

    Jesper
    I would love to see wijdanum here mate if I’m honest.
    I know other positions within the team should take priority, but he would be an excellent addition.
    If we are prepared to offer stupid money for thaurvin…… Wijdanum is a far safer bet

  • 47 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2015 at 7:35 AM

    Mick,
    No. You are wrong. Blackley says Carr bought him for the development squad, and that is where he should have played. Carr is a fool for not realising that Perez would develop and adapt quicker. Look how our development team suffered because Perez played too many games in the first team. Carr oot.

  • 48 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2015 at 7:36 AM

    Jazzy,
    A safer bet, and probably an easier player to sell the club to.

  • 49 Jail for Ashley // Jun 25, 2015 at 7:37 AM

    I think we need to be looking at whose going to be sold before we think about players coming in, I think this is what the hold up is

  • 50 mickalfas // Jun 25, 2015 at 7:41 AM

    Lil
    But is the main problem not that the squad is so weak ,the development squad players are being thrown in at the deep end ,Arma for example is not ready imo

  • 51 Ron Knee // Jun 25, 2015 at 7:42 AM

    Jail
    And it’s going to be difficult to offload some of the dross!

  • 52 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2015 at 7:44 AM

    Jail,
    Well rumour is that Cisse and Tiote could be on their way to Turkey. £14million double bid according to the Express, backed up by Turkish reports saying they value Cisse at £6.5 and Tiote at a questionable £7.5. I wouldn’t want Cisse to go unless we already had 2 centre forwards, one Prem proven, signed and sealed.

    If Cisse goes anybody selling a centre forward knows they have us over a barrel, was does the centre forward with his wage demands. It would put us in a terrible bargaining position, and given our rigid structure, we would be more likely to see a sub standard player come in again as he is affordable, if not value.

  • 53 Jail for Ashley // Jun 25, 2015 at 7:45 AM

    Ron Knee,
    Key areas we need to improve in are by no coincidence the areas in which we are well stocked but have little or no hope of moving them on. Gouffran and Riverie need to go, as does Williamson and STaylor and that clown Obertan.

  • 54 Ron Knee // Jun 25, 2015 at 7:49 AM

    Jail
    Exactly. Any news about Williamson going to Leeds?

  • 55 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jun 25, 2015 at 7:49 AM

    Jazzy…Wijdanum does seem like a great little player.

    I’ll have to run for a while…literally 😉

  • 56 Jail for Ashley // Jun 25, 2015 at 7:50 AM

    Lilongwe,
    That will be a classic case of ‘the computer says no’ if we sell those two because policy says so. We are talking about two players with a lot of PL experience and more than likely to be replaced with players from outside the UK. Someone has to start putting their foot down at this mad house.

  • 57 jazzyp // Jun 25, 2015 at 7:51 AM

    Lil
    I don’t think Cisse will be sold before another Forward comes in. If we take the same approach as we did with the Debuchy saga,And bring in someone before selling. Then that is by far a better mould to operate under then selling before you buy

  • 58 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2015 at 7:51 AM

    Mick,
    My post was more tongue in cheek than anything. Players like Arma should have been out on loan last season. Even with our goal shy strike force, I’d have preferred to see him out on loan. Keeping them around is a short term mentality. I would already be trying to get him and a few others loan deals, even though we don’t know the composition of our first team squad.

  • 59 mickalfas // Jun 25, 2015 at 7:51 AM

    Jail
    The famous five you mention ,I’m afraid we’ll be stuck with them till their contracts run out ,can you see anyone wanting to sign them and match their wages
    Ain’t gonna happen

  • 60 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2015 at 7:58 AM

    Jazzy,
    A far better way to operate, I fully agree. We have only really done it once though in the case you talk about. Given how many players we have in our squad, and a lack of saleable ones, then I think the club will have to work very hard to get a balance right between best for the football, and best for the accounts. We know which one generally takes precedence.

  • 61 hibbit // Jun 25, 2015 at 7:58 AM

    mickalfas the big problem is its not just 5

  • 62 Jail for Ashley // Jun 25, 2015 at 7:59 AM

    mickalfas,
    Lilongwes post there was a cheeky little swipe at Blackleys latest claims that GC is to blame for the current mess at the club.

  • 63 Toonfan8 // Jun 25, 2015 at 8:01 AM

    Bring Wijnaldum and if Tiote leave bring Imbula as well, I dont want this Thauvin, we are tracking him 4 years and he always want to go elsewhere…and try to do a deal with Konoplyanka…bring CB Dunk and try Tyrone Mings…and Austin….with these players we should be good…
    Wijnaldum 12, Konoplyanka free, Dunk 5-6, Mings 8, Austin 15….40 mil plus signing on fees 6-8…all business done for 50M….and improve on squad
    GK…Krul,Darlow,Elliot
    RB…Janmaat,(Anita,S.Taylor can cover)
    LB…Mings,Haidara(Dummet can cover)
    CB…Dunk,Dummet,Collocini,S.Taylor,Lascelles
    CM…Wijnaldum,Tiote,Sissoko,Anita,Colback,
    ….Abeid
    AM…De Jong,Marveaux,Vuckic
    WG…Konoplyanka,Aarons,Cabella,S.Ameobi
    SC….Austin,Cisse,Perez,Riviere

    sell Gouffran and decide if hold Marveaux or Vuckic….and thats 27 man squad and that must be enough, there are also youngsters like Satka, Kemen, Armstrong…but this team will be exciting to watch

  • 64 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2015 at 8:02 AM

    Jail,
    Not too worried on Tiote. We are heavily reliant on him because our central defenders are so poor. If we upgrade them then I think we can manage without him, using one of our existing midfielders. Anita can do the DM job, very different in style to Tiote, but is the best reader of the game we have and with a dominant centre half (or two) then he wouldn’t need to be as physical.

    Cisse is a worry as he is our only proven goalscorer. I think he will be gone, I don’t want him to go, but it would be foolish letting him leave before we have 2 centre forwards through the door.

  • 65 mickalfas // Jun 25, 2015 at 8:03 AM

    Hibbit
    Agreed,but they would be a very good start,but I have a feeling they’ll all be here when the season starts
    That causes problems in itself with the 25

  • 66 cyprus // Jun 25, 2015 at 8:04 AM

    Jesper,
    sorry for nor replying, was away and will go again after this post.
    Why do you say that we clearly have no ambitions?

    That mysterious MA character has declared ambition of the highest order. If this was said by you or me, it could easily be dsmissed. But, this guy, like him or not, is in the top 2 or 3 hundered wealthiest in the world. If he isn’t secretly plotting for the destruction of the Geordie nation, he may get what he wants.

    ‘May’ because in football there are no certainties. You may invest and still fail, so you need to keep trying, and getting up again. But then again, there IS a certainty: success must be bought. At a high price.

  • 67 Toonfan8 // Jun 25, 2015 at 8:08 AM

    …………………Krul……………..
    janmaat,dunk,dummet,mings
    ….wijnaldum…tiote……………
    sissoko……de jong..konoplyanka
    ……………..austin…………………….

  • 68 cyprus // Jun 25, 2015 at 8:11 AM

    Toon,
    if we are ambitious, as I see you are there, Dummett must be released. Nice lad, good player, championship level.

  • 69 lochinvar // Jun 25, 2015 at 8:12 AM

    London by population is France’s third largest city so Mrs. Thauvin is probably having a say in the matter , it’s the French way

  • 70 clinath@ed // Jun 25, 2015 at 8:12 AM

    Thought Lilongwe had been hijacked there for a second…

  • 71 mickalfas // Jun 25, 2015 at 8:13 AM

    Personally I don’t think the transfer fees are the problem for getting them over the line,,it’s the wages what’s the biggest problem for Ashley
    Konoplyanka on 100k a week on a 5 year contract =£25m
    Ain’t happening

  • 72 Santon03 // Jun 25, 2015 at 8:14 AM

    btw does FIFA FFP really being enforced or is it just BS policy?

  • 73 Toonfan8 // Jun 25, 2015 at 8:15 AM

    Mickalfas…Konoplyanka is rated on 15M, so on 70k a week or 80 it is worth that….

  • 74 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2015 at 8:15 AM

    Clinath,
    Ha, yeah, bit out of character. Had a frustrating morning so far, and just spilt over a little. Normal service now resumed though!

  • 75 Toonfan8 // Jun 25, 2015 at 8:16 AM

    cyprus
    I dont say he must play there, there can play Lascelles,Collo or Saylor, whoever will be best in pre-season

  • 76 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2015 at 8:20 AM

    Mickalfas,
    Yeah, I agree. It is the rigid wage structure that seems to be the problem. Look at Gomis for example, we were willing to pay £8million plus agents, signing on and wages, then the following year we won’t even hit £70k a week plus signing on and agents when there is no club fee.

    Colo is still or highest paid player, and that is because he signed the deal a while back. We don’t seem willing to go much over £60k and that isn’t a huge amount in the modern era premier league. A club with our revenue should be able to stretch to £100k a week for the better players. We shouldn’t be offering more than that, unless a player can guarantee the club success.

  • 77 clinath@ed // Jun 25, 2015 at 8:21 AM

    Lilongwe, thought your discussion with Blackley over Carr’s position at the club was explained perfectly. Without resulting to insults or swearing.
    Shame, 5 hours later he totally ignored your points and carried on arguing the opposite point of view.
    Suppose that’s his prerogative…..

  • 78 mickalfas // Jun 25, 2015 at 8:22 AM

    Toonfan
    Yeah,but do they not expect a signing on fee as well
    I thought I read that we lost out on Ayew because Swansea paid £5m fee as well,for a so called free transfer

  • 79 check the toastie // Jun 25, 2015 at 8:27 AM

    Blankley – Simpson was shit, awful player, you show your complete lack of understanding of football by trying to compare Janmaat to him.
    Unbelievable judges some on here.
    Austin would be an upgrade on Cisse as his linkup play is much superior, Cisse’s touch has deserted him.
    Nothing to say Cisse couldn’t return to his dynamite sharp best under new coaching staff mind.
    We need a couple of Centre Backs desperately, hopefully not injury prone…..

  • 80 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2015 at 8:27 AM

    Clinath,
    I didn’t expect him to take it on board, and that is up to him we each have our own views. It was more other frustrations with work this morning anyway, shouldn’t have spilled out in sarcastic comments on here, but we all make mistakes!

  • 81 lesh // Jun 25, 2015 at 8:27 AM

    Lilongwe

    It’s about time you and others stopped talking sense – it might catch on with Ashley and his lackies!

  • 82 Jib // Jun 25, 2015 at 9:31 AM

    Reading loads of articles in the French press (too many to enumerate) . It appears LeBrune had promised Marseilles owners some much needed cash from a sale. That was achieved with the sale of Payet to West Ham so further sales are not needed.




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