Sunderland Could Beat Newcastle To Dutch International


Voetbal International are reporting tonight that Sunderland are moving in to try to get 22 year-old Chelsea midfielder Marco van Ginkel on loan for the season, but sadly there is no mention of Newcastle at all.

marco van ginkel

Marco van Ginkel – Sunderland want him

It could well be an advantage that Sunderland have an experienced and savvy Dutch manager in Dick Advocaat in charge, and he could well persuade the Dutch International to join Sunderland, with Newcastle still trying to get up to steam with their transfer business this summer.

Marco has said it’s very important for him to get games this coming season:

“For my development it is crucial next season to get a full year of play. The chance that this can happen at Chelsea is small.¨

Van Ginkel signed on at Chelsea two years ago and so far played 4 times for the first team and last season he spent on loan at AC  Milan where he played 18 times with one goal and his form in the second half of the season was good, after a difficult start.

The 22 year-old is the classic box to box midfielder that we haven’t really got in the squad at the moment, after Yohan Cabaye left 18 months ago and it looks like he may rejoin Alan Pardew at Crystal Palace.

Newcastle have already been linked with Marco this summer, but Lee Charnley and others will need to be a lot more aggressive if we are to get our top targets into the club this summer – and the sooner the better.

Just like there seemed no urgency or decisiveness this year, when we managed to lose eight games in a row and were almost relegated.

Newcastle did absolutely nothing to stop the rot – and we kept John Carver in charge for the full 20 games – 13 of which we lost and he nearly took us down.

Other clubs would have taken John out of his misery maybe after six successive losses – at most.

Basically nothing was done to alleviate the dire situation,  and we were simply fortunate to get 4 points out of our final three games

The same kind of sleep-walking seems to be happening in this summer’s transfer market at Newcastle.

Lee Charnley is the top executive at the club and he has to be more aggressive and decisive to get the job done.

Comments welcome.


141 comments so far

  • optimistic prime

    Jul 1, 2015 at 11:14 PM

    Comment #1

    Ac

    A bit red faced but I’m fine 😉

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  • Charlietoon

    Jul 1, 2015 at 11:24 PM

    Comment #2

    We get an article every time a name is mentioned. Are we now getting a new article even when our name isn’t mentioned??

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  • lesh

    Jul 1, 2015 at 11:24 PM

    Comment #3

    That’s the way Charnley. You carry on, sit on your backside and watch the Club slither along without a care in the world.

    No backroom staff announced – have any been formally appointed?

    No player signings after weeks of hearing crap that targets are identified.

    Has he been away – on holiday perhaps?

    Has there been clarification of Ashley’s ambiguous end of season statement?

    Is there going to be some quality strengthening of the positions that are weak?

    Yes, the FF should prove interesting and Charnley’s got to be held responsible if it degenerates into a slanging match. Is he daft enough to force an agenda without free discussion and subsidiary questioning from delegates? I think yes!

    We know that they like to be precise about FF meeting notes (a true reflection of what should have happened perhaps?), but I don’t think we should be surprised if a frustrated FF delegate deviates from the protocol that minutes are issued only by the Club, and publishes his/ her view on the discussions.

    Yes, it’s gonna be an interesting few weeks and I’ll say it again, Ashley and Charnley will have brought it all on themselves!

    I wonder whether we’ve another season of fan malcontent to look forward to?

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jul 1, 2015 at 11:26 PM

    Comment #4

    Lesh these questions need answering asap

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  • awaydays

    Jul 1, 2015 at 11:28 PM

    Comment #5

    Hey guys just thought id laugh at players nowadays when the best young talent become mediocre complete players because they sign for teams like chelski man u and man sh**** and are never played… Egotistical players are everywhere

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  • optimistic prime

    Jul 1, 2015 at 11:31 PM

    Comment #6

    Lesh

    Over Lee line is doing a fine job, not sure what his job is but he’s doing fine.

    Ashley not sacking him points to that, 😉

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Jul 1, 2015 at 11:39 PM

    Comment #7

    The fans forum is on Monday !! The club will need to have a few players or at least one big name by then or it will be carnage !!

    Surely some will be signed soon in fact have the coaches all been signed up yet?

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  • Graeme

    Jul 1, 2015 at 11:44 PM

    Comment #8

    Hey, lets be honest here, Hartlepool could beat Newcastle to a signing. At least they show ambition and intent – we never have!!

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  • krijo

    Jul 1, 2015 at 11:44 PM

    Comment #9

    but sadly there is no mention of Newcastle at all.
    So lets make a story of this! Jesus u are desperate Ed!

    BREAKING NEWS: a club has made a bid for shaquri but its not newcastle so lets make a full bio……..

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  • joeinthecheapseats

    Jul 1, 2015 at 11:48 PM

    Comment #10

    Guy on twitter saying Bob Moncur is about to walk out of his role as the club won’t pay the transfer fees clubs are wanting for players
    It would prove nothing’s changing with this regime

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  • banjax

    Jul 1, 2015 at 11:51 PM

    Comment #11

    I reckon we won’t hear anything about signings or valuations until the deal is done, hence the restriction of approved media outlets. There was also the warning to players about using their mobiles. Hopefully we’ll hear that four players have been signed – hey presto – hang on just woke up. – was I dreaming – again ?

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  • Noel Worst

    Jul 1, 2015 at 11:51 PM

    Comment #12

    Ok, so back from my larks with my old pal that’s an agent. Only thing I got out of him is that Cisse is an almost cert for Turkey going on what his colleagues are telling him, with Besiktas hotting up their interest in Cisse now they lost out on Ba; since contact has been made we’ve asked about a player from them named Tore who’s apparently one of Turkey’s bright young things according to my pal, not somebody I’m familiar with aside from the quick google search I just did as soon as I got home 🙂 Said he doesn’t know if that was a casual enquiry or if there’s firm intent to sign, I remarked when is their ever firm intent to sign from NUFC these days?Always reluctant recruiters

    Only worrying thing is he said, is the talk that if Cisse doesn’t leave then Tiote will and there are a number of clubs sniffing around him, they won’t both be here when the window shuts for sure he said, as they’re both of similar age and MA, despite him saying he isn’t involved in football matters, doesn’t want to see his assets depreciate and he thinks both their values are about to decline sharply given their age so wants rid now. Kind of ties in to his line of “I make sure we have the most resources possible” line in THAT interview.

    The football and finances are inextricable and it looks like finances remain king when making footballing decisions.

    That’s all folks, as is always the case with these things I didn’t want to nag him for all he had, things are just about to get really busy for him so this was his last genuine day-off for a couple of months!

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  • krijo

    Jul 1, 2015 at 11:51 PM

    Comment #13

    Wow If thats true about moncur that would say somthing keeping in mind moncur has been a leech to newcastle

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jul 1, 2015 at 11:53 PM

    Comment #14

    Gonna watch England match now

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  • Toon Tang

    Jul 1, 2015 at 11:55 PM

    Comment #15

    Sweating like a cornered nun like. Gunna watch this game bollock naked coz clothes aint doing it for me today.

    Will be a tough game this one though.

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  • Toon Tang

    Jul 1, 2015 at 11:56 PM

    Comment #16

    I reckon it’ll go to pens and then who knows from there eh.

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  • krijo

    Jul 1, 2015 at 11:56 PM

    Comment #17

    Sorry noe west but that dosent make sanse If ouer striker dont leave that make way for a midfielder to leave

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  • Mister Tuff

    Jul 1, 2015 at 11:56 PM

    Comment #18

    Very interesting if that is true about Moncur. I would have to withdraw my Judas Moncur statements.
    He’s supported the regime though for yonks -so I’m not entirely convinced he’ll walk.
    Would lead to an excellent FF meeting if he did.

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  • optimistic prime

    Jul 1, 2015 at 11:58 PM

    Comment #19

    For those watching England’s lasses and have never been to Canada, Edmonton has a shopping mall that makes the Metro Centre look like a corner shop.

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  • optimistic prime

    Jul 2, 2015 at 12:00 AM

    Comment #20

    It would be quite funny if everyone abandend Over Lee Line for the FF.

    How’s everything going Lee?

    Well they’ve gone, if that’s what you mean.

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  • BandB

    Jul 2, 2015 at 12:05 AM

    Comment #21

    Bobby has been known to say one thing in private and something completely different when offered the chance to say it in public.

    I know this from bitter experience.

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  • Noel Worst

    Jul 2, 2015 at 12:06 AM

    Comment #22

    Krijo

    You’re right, sure as heck it doesn’t make footballing sense, but I don’t think that’s a priority these days. Seems like we’re easy come, easy go, no conviction in squad building, hardly a good environment to try and make everyone believe they’re all for one, so to speak, when those up above are so blase about comings and goings.

    Thought we’d had the kick up the arse needed last season, all signs are pointing to lapsing back in to complacency.

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  • Lindisfarne

    Jul 2, 2015 at 12:07 AM

    Comment #23

    Stoke £12M bid for Shaqiri accepted by Inter, but not hopeful of persuading the player.

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jul/01/stoke-xherdan-shaqiri-inter-agree-fee

    I don’t know if it will be Coates the owner that does the negotiating but they have really got some brass tacks.

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  • lesh

    Jul 2, 2015 at 12:08 AM

    Comment #24

    Joeinthecheapseats

    If the twatter story about Moncur walking’s true, then that’s a vote of no-confidence in either Charnley or Ashley or both. Moncur was speaking highly of Ashley so I guess it’s Charnley he’s after!

    Maybe McClaren’s pi$$ed off too?

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  • optimistic prime

    Jul 2, 2015 at 12:09 AM

    Comment #25

    Lindisfarne

    Shy bairns get nowt.
    Atleast they’re trying.

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  • optimistic prime

    Jul 2, 2015 at 12:12 AM

    Comment #26

    I reckon the twatter story will be BS

    Bobs no spring chicken so I doubt he’ll be ruffling any feathers.

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  • Lindisfarne

    Jul 2, 2015 at 12:12 AM

    Comment #27

    Noel Worst

    I get the impression the club are mostly interested in players turning over as much as possible, rather than as you suggest building a motivated squad that thrives on solidarity and collaborative success.

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  • BandB

    Jul 2, 2015 at 12:15 AM

    Comment #28

    Bobby has been known to say one thing in private and something completely different when offered the chance to say it in public.

    I know this from bitter experience.

    Honest, guys, I do.

    Chumps

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  • Lindisfarne

    Jul 2, 2015 at 12:17 AM

    Comment #29

    Average_Contents // Jul 1, 2015 at 10:56 PM

    Is that..no….no it can’t be..is it him..nar..wait it is..it’s Curtis Good. In the flesh.

    >>Glad I am not the only one who spotted him!

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  • BandB

    Jul 2, 2015 at 12:18 AM

    Comment #30

    Bobby has been known to say one thing in private and something completely different when offered the chance to say it in public.

    I know this from bitter experience.

    Honest, guys, I really, really, really, really doooooooooooooo!

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  • optimistic prime

    Jul 2, 2015 at 12:19 AM

    Comment #31

    BandB

    Spit it out then

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  • Lindisfarne

    Jul 2, 2015 at 12:20 AM

    Comment #32

    optimistic prime

    How long will Schteve keep a lid on things, before he loses patience with not having any Coaches, or players for positions he has specified?

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  • BandB

    Jul 2, 2015 at 12:21 AM

    Comment #33

    Shut up BandB.
    Women can’t know anything!
    Unemployed rambling plumbers know things.
    Not women.
    Right!

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  • optimistic prime

    Jul 2, 2015 at 12:26 AM

    Comment #34

    Lindisfarne

    Don’t think it would take him long to walk. End of next week at the latest if there’s no movement on transfers or coaches.

    McLaren said last week and week before he expected to announce his staff at the start of following week, third time lucky?

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  • BandB

    Jul 2, 2015 at 12:28 AM

    Comment #35

    Women never interview prime ministers. Dali Lamas.
    Men who are your boss’s, boss’s, boss’s, boss’s boss.
    Newcastle United Gods
    People you’ll never, ever get within a hundred yard of, let alone have an appointment with.
    Cos women know nothing.
    Right!

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  • optimistic prime

    Jul 2, 2015 at 12:29 AM

    Comment #36

    BandB

    Do I have to beg?

    What’s the crack with Monsieur Moncur?

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  • Thump

    Jul 2, 2015 at 12:30 AM

    Comment #37

    If Sunderland is in for him, then there’s a real possibility that we weren’t. Almost every time we’re both in for a player, it always seems to come out that we just weren’t that interested (Kilgallon is the only one that immediately springs to mind).

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jul 2, 2015 at 12:30 AM

    Comment #38

    grrrr bloody penalty

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  • ITUNDERASHELL

    Jul 2, 2015 at 12:31 AM

    Comment #39

    Ok, own up, who has bought a season ticket?

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  • Lindisfarne

    Jul 2, 2015 at 12:34 AM

    Comment #40

    I sometimes wonder, if this is really happening to the club? Are we adding two and two and getting five?

    If the Club is being run unfathomably poorly, why is it acceptable to the owner that his investment will potentially turn to dust? Or if we are wrong then why is the correct interpretation not getting through?

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