Newcastle Transfer Target Priced Far Too High


The Mirror are reporting today that West Ham want around £8M for their midfielder Stewart Downing, and that’s a lot of money given that Stewart turns 31 on July 22nd.

With Newcastle’s former policies in the transfer market,  there would be no chance of the club bringing Stewart in – whatever the price.

stewart downing

Stewart Downing – turns 31 later this month

But these days Newcastle need more experience in the squad and are said to be willing to sign older player.

They also want more Englishmen in the squad and Stewart meets both those criteria – but there’s no way West Ham will get £8M for him.

The news is that new West Ham manager Slaven Bilic has told Stewart to look for a new club this summer as he tries to reshape the squad, and he has recently brought in Marseilles’ Dimitri Payet for £10.6M.

A number of clubs have been linked with Downing already, including all three north-east clubs – Newcastle, Sunderland and Middlesbrough – where he started his career coming through their famous Youth Academy.

The other link with Newcastle is his former boss Steve McClaren at Middlesbrough is now on Tyneside as the new head coach, and it was Steve who gave Downing his debut for Middlesbrough back in April of 2002 at Ipswich Town, when Stewart was 17.

So it’s not impossible we could sign Stewart – but not for £8M.

In his two years at the Hammers he played 74 times and scored 7 goals and showed some good form.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



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132 comments so far

  • jimbo

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #1

    Don’t want him.

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  • ToonFromLeeds

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #2

    BREAKING: Sky Sources: Tottenham to hold talks with Atletico Madrid over move for Tony Alderweireld. #SSNHQ

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  • Pottsclock

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #3

    Please no, no…NO to Downing.
    Surely just bullsh*t

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  • mickalfas

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #4

    31 ,Next !!
    We’re rumoured to be getting rid of Cisse on age grounds ffs!!

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  • PJR09

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #5

    Not at any price – steer clear

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  • nufc_eire

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #6

    No. Just no

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  • Toon-Barmy

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #7

    Just did a quick review of our current squad and it looks as though we really do need to sell before we buy in this transfer window. We currently have 28 over-age players in the squad, including Sammy Ameobi who hasn’t signed his contract offer yet.
    That means we need to ship at least four players out before we can register a single new player. If we really want to bring in six new players then we need to ship out at least nine of the over-age players from the list below as I can’t see MA paying wages to players who aren’t eligible to play.

    NUFC Over-Age Players:

    GK: Tim Krul (27)
    GK: Karl Darlow (24)
    GK: Rob Elliot (29)
    RB: Daryl Janmaat (26)
    CB: Fabricio Coloccini (33)
    CB: Mike Williamson (31)
    CB: Steven Taylor (29)
    CB: Jamaal Lascelles (21)
    CB: Curtis Good (22)
    LB: Paul Dummett (23)
    LB: Massadio Haidara (22)
    CM: Moussa Sissoko (26)
    CM: Jack Colback (25)
    CM: Cheick Tiote (29)
    CM: Vurnon Anita (26)
    CM: Sylvain Marveaux (29)
    CM: Mehdi Abeid (23)
    CM: Gael Bigirimana (21)
    AM: Siem De Jong (26)
    AM: Remy Cabella (25)
    AM: Haris Vuckic (23)
    RM: Gabriel Obertan (26)
    LM: Sammy Ameobi (23)
    LM: Yoan Gouffran (29)
    LM: Shane Ferguson (24)
    CF: Papiss Cisse (30)
    CF: Emmanuel Rivière (25)
    CF: Ayoze Perez (22)

    Contracted Under 21’s:

    GK: Freddie Woodman (18)
    RB: Kevin Mbabu (20)
    RB: Jamie Sterry (19)
    CB: Lubomir Satka (19)
    CB: Macauley Gillesphey (19)
    RM: Rolando Aarons (19)
    RM: Dan Barlaser (18)
    CM: Olivier Kemen (19)
    CM: Liam Smith (19)
    LM: Callum Roberts (18)
    CF: Alex Gilliead (19)
    CF: Adam Armstrong (18)
    CF: Tom Heardman (19)

    Players Out:

    Facundo Ferreyra – Free
    Jonas Gutierrez – Free
    Ryan Taylor – Free
    Jak Alnwick – Free
    Adam Campbell – Free
    Remie Streete – Free
    Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa – £5.5million
    Davide Santon – £2.8million

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #8

    Old, expensive, and not that great, in fact, fairly average really.

    I say we really push the boat out on this one.

    I wonder is this was one of the names that really excited Carver a few months back. Sounded like some list.

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  • mickalfas

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #9

    Tfl
    Just think what a team we could have had out of all the targets we’ve been linked with,champions league ?
    With Ashley at the helm there’smore chance of the cchampionship

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  • nufc_eire

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #10

    I’d happily sell any/all of these

    GK: Rob Elliot (29)
    CB: Fabricio Coloccini (33)
    CB: Mike Williamson (31)
    CB: Steven Taylor (29)
    CB: Curtis Good (22)
    CM: Cheick Tiote (29)
    CM: Vurnon Anita (26)
    CM: Sylvain Marveaux (29)
    CM: Mehdi Abeid (23)
    CM: Gael Bigirimana (21)
    AM: Haris Vuckic (23)
    RM: Gabriel Obertan (26)
    LM: Sammy Ameobi (23)
    LM: Yoan Gouffran (29)
    LM: Shane Ferguson (24)
    CF: Papiss Cisse (30)

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #11

    Barmy…There is absolutely no need to sell before we buy. The only half argument is that we need to sell before we register our 25 man squad.

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  • nut meg

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #12

    Ayew was only 5m (?)

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  • Mr Magpie

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #13

    In the unlikely scenario that they agree a fee with the selling club for players, it is then that they will need to really up their game to convince a player to come.

    Charnley & the footballing board will really need to either sell the club & the project to potential new signings or offer far better wages than the other teams competing for that coveted signature.

    Looking at the clubs we appear to now be against for our supposed targets both Southampton & West Ham are in European competition & alongside the likes of Swansea,Sunderland & Villa from reports are all offering higher wages than we are…so much for punching above our weight!!

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  • Tsunki

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #14

    Who is the source for this story? Are they just trying to wind us up? Downing is the sort of player the club should break it’s silence and issue a statement about, specifically to say it’s complete rubbish. Why on earth would we have wanted him five years ago even?

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  • Kris

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #15

    @ nut meg
    Ayew was a free agent

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  • jayphoto

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #16

    Don’t know why the press even bother to link us with players over the age of 28! Especially when theres a transfer fee involved….
    Hoping the board are just doing their business discreetly and behind closed doors but it looks worrying, its July now….

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  • Mr Magpie

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #17

    Nut Meg/ Kris
    Ayew was a free agent but it is rumoured he received a 5m signing on fee from Swansea alongside upwards of 70k wages according to various reports in the press.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #18

    Tsunki…Good joke there.

    “the club should break it’s silence and issue a statement about”

    Ha ha, that one is going to have me laughing for most of the day. If the story had containted something negative about SD, then maybe you’d get a club response.

    Anyway, there is a fans forum meet soon – stop being so damn impatient. They’ll get to it, they’re busy ya know!

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  • Tsunki

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #19

    If the club wanted to show intent on the transfer front, they would have first been busy flogging the sub par players that can’t provide backup. Then they would have the impetus to replace them quickly with better.

    It looks like the club are showing intent – to keep the majority of the squad that was do dismal last season. Tell me that they aren’t relying on Steve Macs super coaching powers to metamorphosise this rabble. Crazy

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #20

    I’ve been thinking about this “pound to pound” thing the club keep mentioning.

    Do they have some sort of giant scales they use?

    Player stands on one side, pile of cash on the other….”sorry, computer says no – no pound for pound value”.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #21

    Tsunki…If the club wanted to show some general intent, they could have let us know what they consider were the mistakes they have learnt from.

    Was it recruitment? Was it the coaching set up?

    I still think it was the fans fault. That was fun, blaming the fans. Nice touch of class from wor club.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #22

    I should have added that clearly they don’t think communication is something that was lacking.

    That does not fill me with much confidence.

    I think they should get old Bob on Twitter, releasing club info etc.

    #BePatient
    #ObertanLookingGoodForPreSeason
    #RenewThoseSeasonTickets

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  • jayphoto

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #23

    Personally think Thauvin will be our biggest business this summer! Maybe 12m? I don’t think the club will pay more than 12m for any player. My guess is Thauvin for 12m, A striker for 9-12m, another striker for 5-8m and a centreback for around 6-8m. Total spend about 35m…. (we’ll hear that figure a lot if they do!) but they’ll offset that by selling Tiote and Cisse. (my guess for 6m and 10m meaning the net spend will be closer to 20-25m.
    They’ll also have lost Tiote’s 55k p/w, Jonas 60k p/w, Cisse 40k p/w and Ryan taylors 25k p/w wages of the wage bill. That’s Nearly 10m a year recouped….

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  • mickalfas

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #24

    Ashley has just appointed David Blane to perform his biggest illusion to date
    That NUFC are going to really gonna try this year ,really !!

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  • jayphoto

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #25

    @Ibizatoon – aren’t the players back on July 10th? I predict we’ll hear an Obertans on fire story midway through the USA games…. (mainly because theyre so far away the majority of the fan base won’t have watched the matches so won’t know its B.S)

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  • jayphoto

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #26

    It’s not a NUFC summer til Gabbys on fire…..

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #27

    Jay…Don’t the club include a players wages over the duration of their contract in the transfer spend column?

    I don’t recall, but do they do the same when talking about how much they’ve sold players for?

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  • jayphoto

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #28

    Also, apparently we’re looking at snapping up Tom Ince for next to nothing… why the hell would Hull let that happen? He’s unproven in the PL but he’s more than proven in the fizzy pop, players like him that will get them back up and he’s on pretty low wages

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #29

    Jay…Aye, Squidward loves a bit of summer time..

    Weren’t there photos released of most of the squad training yesterday?

    Maybe some are due back on the 10th, but fairly sure the majority are already back.

    First training exercise, find the hidden coaches. A bit like an easter egg hunt.

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  • optimistic prime

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #30

    They have a friendly against Gateshead on the tenth, all players are back except the few involved with international football who’ve been given a extra few days,

    They fly to the USA a cpl days after playing the heed

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  • jayphoto

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #31

    @Ibiza – I’m not sure. The club usually bends and publishes what ever figures suit the agenda theyre pushing at the time. For example when we signed Ba there was plenty of talk of it being a £9m signing because of wages over 3 years and signing on fees…. but when they sold Cabaye there was no mention of his 2.5m a year for the next 3 years being saved. I think they only mention it on players they sign, not players they sell.
    Rule 1 of working at Newcastle United. Don’t talk about Newcastle United.
    Rule 2 – Grossly over exaggerate any money paid out
    Rule 3 – Grossly underplay or even mention money coming in.

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  • jayphoto

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #32

    @Ibiza – imagine if we played on the MLS calendar through the summer. Obertan would be a superstar!

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  • beermonkey

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #33

    Jay

    We have been getting rid of bigish earners for a while now and we all know we bring in cheaper option or no1 yet our wage bill never goes down

    10mill of our wage bill is huge but I bet it don’t go down

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  • Chris

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #34

    “Weren’t there photos released of most of the squad training yesterday?”

    Yes – I posted this link on one of the earlier threads:
    http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/search/events/562579609

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #35

    OP…I’m looking forward to the Gateshead game. Is this one like a cup final? I kind of got used to all those finals at the end of the season. Dead exciting.

    Jay…Indeed 🙂

    On Obertan, you could be on to something there. I wonder what the chances of us managing to offload him the other side of the pond.

    I’m sure DokToon will help spread the word. Actually, has anyone seen Dok in a while?

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  • Mr Magpie

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #36

    Is it just me or is anybody else concerned that with this clean slate for every player that the board are banking on McClaren being able to bring in the likes of Good, Abeid, Bigirimana, Marveaux, Vuckic etc all into contention for the first team squad.

    Leading to less players being brought in & allowing others to leave as the above mentioned players can fill the gaps in the first team squad being just like new signings.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Jul 2, 2015 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #37

    Chris…You are a star. Thank you for the confirmation and link.

    Did you ever clarify that link you posted to the club accounts some time back? There appeared to be 2 differing sets…one with a good chunk of money (the one you linked) and then another with even more money.

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  • jayphoto

    Jul 2, 2015 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #38

    @beermonkey – pretty sure Newcastle appoint an accountant spin doctor, the figures rarely make sense but with it being a private company that’s always going to be the case.

    @Ibiza – reckon the obertan summer stories come from the fact that its mainly running and conditioning work early summer. He probably looks phenomenal. He is the French Forrest Gump, bloody jet heeled aslong as he’s not got the ball. Never known a player to run like a gazelle without the ball, but with the ball it looks like hes playing with a cannonball.
    Seen a pic of Willo and Gouffran battling for the ball in training…. it’s ruined my morning. I had hoped I’d never have to see either in club clobber again

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  • optimistic prime

    Jul 2, 2015 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #39

    Ibiza

    Don’t diss the Heed, I’ve watched them at the international stadium more over last 3 years than I have been to SJP to watch the toon.

    I’m not sure whether I’ll go to the friendly, if I do I’ll be in the Heed end. I’d rather they got their hands on my cash than Ashley.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jul 2, 2015 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #40

    Why do they want more englishmen? it can’t be price to quality related. This english spine is a total myth.

    Wht’s almost as upsetting is the non – departures of willo, saylor and colo. I would release them all on frees.

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