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Latest Update On Charlie Austin

10:16 am, Monday, July 6th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 147 Comments

News today that Newcastle target Charlie Austin has now returned from his honeymoon, and the 26 year-old will be updated on the developments since he’s been away by his representatives, and also by his club.

So we could see some progress made on Newcastle’s  potential deal for Austin this week, with the latest news being that Leicester City had a £12M bid turned down for him, and it really seems that QPR will simply hold out and finally get the £15M they want for Charlie.

charlie austin qpr

Charlie Austin – back from his honeymoon

There was a report over the weekend that Newcastle are willing to offer QPR £15M for the striker,  so that was potentially good news, but then in the Mail last night there was a strange report.

The Mail claimed Newcastle were only willing to offer £12M for the striker, because they were concerned about a shoulder injury Austin picked up a few years back.

But that’s not how to handle that – and first things first  – Newcastle will have to have a bid accepted for the striker before we can do anything else.

£15M is what we should be bidding for what seems to be our highest priority target this summer.

Once we get that accepted,  Newcastle will have to agree terms with Charlie,  and then after that the medical will come.

So even if Newcastle get that far and have Charlie in for a medical, there is still a danger he could fail the medical as happened at Hull City in 2013 almost exactly two years ago.

That was  on July 9th, and Austin does have a history of shoulder problems.

This is what Hull City manager Steve Bruce said at the time:

“There has been a bit of a problem with his medical, which is the worst scenario for everybody concerned.”

“It’s an awful situation we find ourselves in but the medical is not great so it looks as if it is a non-starter at the moment.”

“I think he is surprised because he has not missed many games over the last couple of years. It is a blow for him and a blow for us but these medicals are so stringent and obviously he has got a problem.”

Just over three weeks later he passed his medical to sign for QPR, and last season he was great for the London  club, scoring 18 Premier League goals in 36 total appearances in his first Premier League season.

Now that Charlie is back in England things should pick up for his transfer this week, and we should get a better idea if we have a real  chance of signing this excellent striker.

Comments welcome.



Tags: Newcastle News · Recruitment · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target




147 responses so far ↓

  • 1 optimistic prime // Jul 6, 2015 at 10:24 AM

    Charlie has just flushed the bog

    Anybody have any idea if Tiote is back in training? Was he in the pics the other day?

    He seems to have just disappeared.

  • 2 Ibizatoon // Jul 6, 2015 at 10:26 AM

    OP…Tiote was pictured the other day at training.

  • 3 Sammmy // Jul 6, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    Prepare for the disappointment then…

  • 4 Lindisfarne // Jul 6, 2015 at 10:27 AM

    What is Austins injury record actually like?

    OP – yes Tiote was in the training pictures from Wednesday, benefiting from a clean sweep!

  • 5 Jib // Jul 6, 2015 at 10:28 AM

    Quite often bad medicals are a device used by clubs who have a last minute change of heart on a player.
    Stoke were accused of it with Demba Ba when he was at Hoffenheim.

  • 6 cestriasteve // Jul 6, 2015 at 10:28 AM

    OP,
    Have you seen the size of his lass, Jesus she is huge. #feeder

  • 7 BandB // Jul 6, 2015 at 10:31 AM

    Slank,

    Yes. I can imagine lots of conversations between De Jong and Wilgy. I am imagining some now, which I will post later in support of my theories.

    The Wijnaldum story has a slight niff of Patrick Vieira about it to me. Could come off. Could soon be yesterday’s dodgy lead.

  • 8 LewSpi v2.0 // Jul 6, 2015 at 10:33 AM

    r.e. Daily Mail report, there has only been one newspaper that has been granted actual access to inside information at the club, and thats the mirror; therefore i’m more inclined to believe their stories.

    Sure, journalists will still get nuggets of information, but I’d expect the mirror to also get this information. I don’t think it’s a bad thing, means we have one paper which we can almost rely on for solid information, and it’s a news outlet which I actually really like.

    What I’m trying to say is take the shoulder story with a pinch of salt.

  • 9 Rozzy // Jul 6, 2015 at 10:36 AM

    Alex Song £6m – £7m
    BARGIN !

  • 10 BandB // Jul 6, 2015 at 10:38 AM

    This is what the Mirror says

    “Georginio Wijnaldum is in “early stage” talks with Newcastle over a £15million transfer.

    But the Dutch ace has a host of European clubs chasing his signature, and a deal to join the Geordies is said by Newcastle not to be imminent at this stage.

    He was said, by sources in Holland, to be close to signing for a “prestigious Premier League club”, with Newcastle at the head of the queue.”

  • 11 optimistic prime // Jul 6, 2015 at 10:40 AM

    Just seen the link in a previous to Tiote, cheers.

    On the nufc digest story, I think the editor sold tfl a pup. I read 3 articles on there and they had been copied word for word from the chronicle fourfourtwo and Talksport. If anything it was closed for plagiarisim, if they’d stole work from papers and other sites I have no doubt they did the same with stories on the club site. So if Bishop got in touch it was to do with that more than printing a letter.

  • 12 Ibizatoon // Jul 6, 2015 at 10:40 AM

    It is that time, silly season, where there are simply too many differing pieces of information to know what is actually going on.

    My hope is that there is decent movements in the market, there isn’t any good reasons why we wouldn’t, but getting ones hopes up based on paper speculation, whether that be a preferred partner or not, is surely a lesson we should have learnt already?

    As we’ve seen time and time again, even if deals are genuine, they can go wrong at the very last minute. A player may even take a phone call during a meeting with the club. Would they still be able to justify a wage of £60k for someone so rude? 🙂

  • 13 BandB // Jul 6, 2015 at 10:41 AM

    And on wages it says this.

    “Dutch title-winning Wijnaldum could command a £60,000-a-week deal, and negotiations are ongoing.”

    So if, as Ed says, other papers are going much stronger than this, rather than just re-hashing the Mirror story, I would be keen to see the links.

    Offering £60,000 a week would be a real sign of intent.

  • 14 banjax // Jul 6, 2015 at 10:41 AM

    ‘Nando maybe a replacement for Tiote or Sissoko – who knows. There’s no doubt there are players at the club who are not up to the standard needed for Newcastle to progress beyond just fighting to beat relegation and to achieve a Top Six finish. Players like, Rivera, Goufron, Williamson, Obertan, Taylor,Tiote and Ameobi. The lack of consistent high levels of performance in these players has blended with lack of skill and old age to give a squad that has just not been good enough and a demonstration that buying too cheap has brought us the failure of results to our club. Failure to buy spend on quality now will give us relegation next season, especially with the likes of West Ham, Swansea, Stoke, Southampton to name but a few who are doing just that.

  • 15 optimistic prime // Jul 6, 2015 at 10:42 AM

    Ceistrasteve

    I heard shes known as Eclipse by her friends

  • 16 Ibizatoon // Jul 6, 2015 at 10:42 AM

    BandB…Wouldn’t it just.

    OP…Perhaps Bishop was a fan of the site as it had all NUFC news in one handy spot?

  • 17 Lindisfarne // Jul 6, 2015 at 10:44 AM

    To answer my own question, I make it that Charlie Austin has played in approx. 66 matches in two seasons for QPR, missing 18 out of 84 League matches. Not being available for 20% matches does not seem a huge amount compared to some and they were not all shoulder related.

  • 18 beermonkey // Jul 6, 2015 at 10:46 AM

    lewspi

    is that the same mirror paper that had Austin deal done on the back pages a week or so ago

  • 19 mickalfas // Jul 6, 2015 at 10:50 AM

    More concerned about the lack of speculation about CB’s atm
    Winaljdum will be a great signing imo,as well as Austin/Mitrovic but no striker can make up for the donkeys we have at the back

  • 20 Jib // Jul 6, 2015 at 10:50 AM

    Martin Skrtel is unhappy with a clause in his new contract which states he must play at least 80% of games to be paid his full salary.
    Now here’s the thing
    Young Lubo Satka is Slovakian too. So what better mentor could he have than big Marty who at 30 must have a few seasons left.

  • 21 Lindisfarne // Jul 6, 2015 at 10:55 AM

    Jib

    What makes you think there will not be an 80% clause in a NUFC contract?

    The fact Penfold is in charge of the paperwork perhaps!

  • 22 SuperShearer // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:02 AM

    Find it funny people saying “I trust the Mirror because they’re official Media partners” – Because it wouldn’t be beyond the club to plant a false story in the mirror that would:
    A. Appease fans as to a potential signing
    B. All the Mirror to flog some papers.
    Wake up people. Until a player is standing holding a Newcastle shirt take it all with a truck load of salt.

  • 23 optimistic prime // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:02 AM

    I maybe pulling at strings because I’m not a great fan of Austin but I looked at some of his stats for last year.

    He had a shot on target average of 64% that’s not very encouraging when most of his goals came in the 6yd box which bumped his average up.

    His pass completion rate was 64%, again not that great if you’re looking for a hold up player to bring others into the game.

    Someone saying he missed 20% of games also.

    If we sign him I hope he’s successfull but I’d stay well clear.

  • 24 Lindisfarne // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:06 AM

    Interesting news from Anderlecht:

    https://twitter.com/Sporting_AND/status/617940964234149888

  • 25 BandB // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:08 AM

    SuperShearer,

    A journalist from the Sun published an article recently, after Bird got stood up.

    He claimed the same thing happened to him when the Sun was preferred media partner last year.

    He’d get a steer about us being in pole position, publish his story….then nothing.

    He claimed he sometimes found out later that Newcastle had made no sort of approach or enquiry for the players he’d written about.

  • 26 beermonkey // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:08 AM

    prime

    how many goals did he get through penalty’s

    its cos he is English and he scored in a poor team that’s what the fuss is about

  • 27 optimistic prime // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:11 AM

    Beer

    3 if I rember right, 8 in the 6yd area. Only 1 goal outside pen area. He also missed a cpl pens 1 In league 1 in cup.

  • 28 optimistic prime // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:14 AM

    From what I understand from the preferred media partner, the sun had the same benifits as the mirror now gets.

    Once the club said they’d have to pay the sun pulled out. The mirror say the haven’t been asked to pay yet but claim they are unsure if they’d accept the deal.

    There was a article about it 2 weeks ago

  • 29 hibbit // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:16 AM

    beermonkey charlie austin is a good solid CF who can score goals far better then we have ……….can we buy better yes will we buy better NO

  • 30 SuperShearer // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:17 AM

    @BandB, see, that’s exactly what I’m talking about. The club having these “Preferred Media Partners” is simply a way of them manipulating the press coverage they get to suit them. It all boils down to them still not knowing how to communicated with the fans or anyone else for that matter. All it really does is make the “non media partners” want to go after the club for negative reasons.
    Good PR is priceless and it’s something the club need to learn. AND FAST.

  • 31 beermonkey // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:20 AM

    bandb

    I was surprised bird got caught out
    he knows all about Ashely and has written a couple of pieces on him

    prime

    not that we ever get a pen, but take those 3 of his total
    he scored 15 not to bad the only thing I think he has going for him is he has consistently scored more than 15 a season ok only 1 season in the prem but still he is consistent

  • 32 BandB // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:22 AM

    Super Shearer,

    I’m somewhat puzzled as to why any media organisation would want to enter into a good faith agreement with Newcastle United.
    I have no idea what they imagine is in it for them.

  • 33 Jib // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:26 AM

    BandB

    Possibly selling Newspapers ?
    Just a thought

  • 34 optimistic prime // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:29 AM

    Beer

    My problem is the type of goal he scored.
    A lot came from a scramble from a set piece, he wouldn’t get them here as we don’t get the ball past the first man.

    Not many came from open play, he’ll always get goals as he’s a 6yd poacher. Anyone could score his goals and for the type of player he is I’d keep Cisse and look elsewhere for a different type of striker.

  • 35 BandB // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:30 AM

    Fantastic,

    If we can all agree then that everyone involved has a vested interest in spouting tripe, then we needn’t base our own pet theories on things they publish.
    I’ll certainly be hoping to see some posters cutting back on the number of links to newspaper articles they post.

  • 36 SuperShearer // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:33 AM

    I can understand why the paper would want to get into bed with Ashley. They sell papers and at the end if it suits them they can dish the dirt. I doubt any publication in their right mind would sign and Non-Disclosure Agreement. What frustrates is that the club are so petty minded as to not realise that by alienating other publications you make enemies of the Fourth Estate. They can cause more issues by not letting them play than by just wiping the slate clean and saying “Right, come back, write what you want but if you write anything false and slanderous we will take legal action” – force the papers to have an actual story rather than something invented.

  • 37 optimistic prime // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:33 AM

    Cisse scored half the goals in a third of the games Austin did. NUFC were no where near as attacking as Qpr.
    No pens either.

  • 38 beermonkey // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:37 AM

    prime

    think there looking to get rid of cisse and if we had been safe in an he would have been sold

    I think we have to look at the package at the club now the way McLaren sets up his teams and the new coaches

    mclarens goto formation is 433 and in the past 3 4 years we have done really playing 433 so I think were going to create a lot more chances so Austin or cisse will score

  • 39 BandB // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:37 AM

    David Concha……off to join Moyes.

  • 40 beermonkey // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:38 AM

    *in jan not in an

  • 41 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:38 AM

    I don’t mind us signing Austin as long as he’s not the only prolific forward we sign!

    …still don’t know if he’s a proper PL forward!

    If that happens Cisse can be moved on. He misses too many games.

  • 42 Ibizatoon // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:39 AM

    BandB @35…Sounds agreeable to me.

    Surely its in the interest of the club to clarify matters. They did say they were aware they needed to improve communication and that following Pardew leaving, they would find better ways than leaving it all the new HC when he turned up.

  • 43 BandB // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:41 AM

    Ibizatoon,

    I wonder who turns up to bat for the club at the Fans’ Forum.
    Moncur would be my guess, now he’s on the board.

  • 44 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:43 AM

    Ibiza…Ha! You trustworthy fool 😀 lol

  • 45 Mister Tuff // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:43 AM

    hibbit – I’ve never been on the NUFC Digest site – so don’t really know what their articles were like. The promotion, continual, of it on this site was ultra strange to say the least. Bit strange also it was supposed to be signed by Bishop.
    Definitely a rabbit off in this tale.

  • 46 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:44 AM

    I think it will be Moncur as well (and he’ll regret it so much afterward)

  • 47 optimistic prime // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:44 AM

    Ibiza/BandB

    The last think I remember from the club regarding conunication was them saying they’d continue to use their preferred method, the Fans Forum.

  • 48 beermonkey // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:45 AM

    so how long will we have to wait before the minutes are out there from the ff

  • 49 Ibizatoon // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:46 AM

    Jesper…It would at least clarify what they’re saying their intentions are, rather than just complete speculation.

    Since Ashleys “interview” and the announcement of McClaren / staff, have their been any sort of announcements on anything?

    A lot of assumptions are being made, quite possibly incorrectly.

    BandB…I imagine you are right, although that would be most disappointing if that turns out to be the answer to the clubs communication problems.

  • 50 will die for the toon army // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:47 AM

    Where is Coloccini?

  • 51 Shadow_Shearer // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:47 AM

    There’s no chance newcastle will buy both Wijnaldum & austin. 15 million spent on one player will be too much for fat boy who loves his bargains. Never mind two players at 15 million each.

  • 52 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:47 AM

    beer…you know the club takes their time! They won’t be rushed 😉

  • 53 Ibizatoon // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:48 AM

    Have to pop out for a bit…car problems. Lots of fun.

    Catch you later.

  • 54 Mister Tuff // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:48 AM

    BandB – re FF.
    From recollection I think Penfold always turns up -Moncur as well. Moncur will be acting as a shield for the club.
    I will eat my hat if the club allow Wally to turn up. Just cannot see him being put in a position where he can be questioned by fans. God forbid he could give some non ambiguous answers or even be totally honest and transparent.
    No – there’s surely no way Wally will be there.

  • 55 BandB // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:48 AM

    Ibizatoon

    I think getting Ashley and Charnley out of the firing line was the answer to the club’s communication problems.

  • 56 optimistic prime // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:49 AM

    It’s not NUFC but it caught my attention last night.

    Sky and others a reporting if Sterling goes to Citeh for £50m he’s entitled to a £4m cut of the agents fee.

    How much is the agents fee FFS?

    Disgrace that millions are disappearing out of the game, to leaches who do nothing for the game.

  • 57 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:51 AM

    Ibiza…I think we all know they just cannot be trusted. Charmless explain what their intentions were in January in terms of communication.

    Since then the only communication had been through Carver, a rehearsed interview by Ashley and one by McClaren;

    That says it all to me about their intentions.

  • 58 BandB // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:52 AM

    On thread,

    Would suggesting that Austin is damaged goods be the best way of improving his opinion of us?

  • 59 SuperShearer // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:54 AM

    @optimistic prime that is very odd. I can only assume Sterling has some kind of deal in place with his agent. I don’t know how it works in football but have spent most my life working in the entertainment industry and agents play a key role, in return for that you pay them, normally, 12% commission on whatever you make. If that were the case in football then Sterling would essentially have to pay his agent 12% of anything he makes on his contract and signing on fee. £4 million seems very high though.

  • 60 Mister Tuff // Jul 6, 2015 at 11:57 AM

    Difference in communication with fans.
    I was reading either yesterday or the day before about Palace. There were quotes from Parish basically saying that re Cabaye it was one they were working on. Also he said they had to sign top ten level PL players in order to achieve a top ten position in the PL.
    Simple stuff – not giving away any state secrets -open transparent.
    This type of communication with their fans (and the rest of the world) is such that it can really attract no criticism at all.
    The boss giving a few clues to their fans as to what is going on. Easy and simple PR – and probably therefore good PR.
    Contrast -with our lot – who’d be reluctant to reveal the time of day. I’m afraid no improvement on communications at all -despite their promises (so far).

  • 61 optimistic prime // Jul 6, 2015 at 12:00 PM

    Shearer

    When I first read the story I thought it said a cut of the £4m agents fee, after re reading it, it’s a £4m cut of the fee.

    Shocking IMO

    I said a cpl weeks ago the players should be made to pay the agents not the club, the agent screws the club for the players benifit so why should the club foot the bill for the privilege of being shafted.

  • 62 BandB // Jul 6, 2015 at 12:01 PM

    Here’s a link to the bookies view.

    Backs up Ed and when are the bookies ever wrong?

    Read it and then get very, very excited.

    http://news.ladbrokes.com/football/premier-league/newcastle-receive-big-boost-in-bid-to-land-signing.html?

  • 63 BandB // Jul 6, 2015 at 12:07 PM

    Then read the biog the author has provided for himself at the foot of the article……

  • 64 Lindisfarne // Jul 6, 2015 at 12:07 PM

    optimistic prime

    Just done some of my own calculations, so they are only an approximation:

    Aguero (27)
    scored 26 goals, 4.5 shots per game = 19% conversion rate
    4% six yard box 73% inside penalty area 22% outside pen.

    Kane (21)
    21 goals, 3.3 shots = 23% conv.
    9% six yard box 48% inside pen. 42% outside pen.

    Costa (26)
    20 goals, 2.9 shots = 29% conv.
    10% six yard box 79% inside pen. 13% outside pen.

    Austin (26)
    18 goals, 3.7 shots = 14% conv.
    5% six yard box 54% inside pen. 43% outside pen.

    Kane, Costa and Austin all had the same bad touch ratio that was 10% higher than Aguro, which may account for why he has a better conversion rate than Austin despite having the most attempts of all Strikers.
    Costa and Aguero predominantly score more in the penalty area than the English Strikers, whilst Costa and Kane have double the number of goals in the six yard box and consequently higher conversion rates.

    Just to compare the striker from Bordeuax:
    Diego Rolan (22)
    15 goals, 2.7 shots = 25% conv.
    14% six yard box 66% inside pen. 19% outside pen.
    A real Poacher

  • 65 SuperShearer // Jul 6, 2015 at 12:08 PM

    @ optimistic prime couldn’t agree more mate. It seems that in football anyone can be an agent. The same is true to an extent in media BUT you’d be found out pretty quickly if you didn’t know what you were talking about, this is why there is a huge demand for the “big agents” in film and TV. The fact that so many players seem to be represented by the family members says it all. An agent is someone who helps with the legal aspects of a contract more than anything, not by pimping them out to the highest bidder.

  • 66 John Tudor // Jul 6, 2015 at 12:08 PM

    hairy potter

  • 67 Mister Tuff // Jul 6, 2015 at 12:08 PM

    beer – it’s usually a couple of days later when the minutes are published. I think however last time it might have been slightly longer.
    Whislt the minutes really cannot be a word for word account -there have been a couple of reports that they do not totally represent accurately what has been said. If that is so the FF members should refuse to “sign them off” but get them corrected.
    I hope that the FF reps are now a bit more eager to ask better questions, and have a good follow up question aready in mind. After their open letter I hope they have now been emboldened and get stuck in and not be overawed by the club.

  • 68 JDdubai // Jul 6, 2015 at 12:12 PM

    BandB @62

    They Do say that he was left out of the friendly, hinting it was due to a pending transfer

    We know that in reality he only went back to training today after holiday so they clearly dont have much of an insight and have just rehashed previous inaccurate info.

    Wouldnt hold their account reliable, seems they just copied previous reports.

    Having said that I expect him to agree to come sometime this week.

  • 69 Lindisfarne // Jul 6, 2015 at 12:12 PM

    will die for the toon army @50

    I don’t know but he can stay there!

  • 70 BandB // Jul 6, 2015 at 12:13 PM

    Did anyone send the delegates any questions to ask, as was mooted?

    I have been asked to pass on a complaint about the lack of Beefee crisps on sale in the east stand.

    That should chime with their usual priorities.

  • 71 BandB // Jul 6, 2015 at 12:18 PM

    jdubai,

    But it’s on the Ladbrokes site……surely it must have some truth to it…..?

  • 72 Lindisfarne // Jul 6, 2015 at 12:19 PM

    Mister Tuff

    Whatever questions get asked needs to be addressed in terms of “improving the club/fan relationship”, whether it be about transfers, the Head Coach debacle, MA whitewash statement or lessons learnt. Or as I have said previously, under the threat of a statement of no confidence in the owner and the board.

  • 73 optimistic prime // Jul 6, 2015 at 12:23 PM

    Lindisfarne

    Interesting looking at those stats, the ones I’d seen where on a betting site from opta.

    In all honesty it’s the type of goal I’ve seen him score, 18 is a impressive return but watching the goals scored it’s not that impressive.

    Ive said before that for the £15m Qpr want there’s better out there, we may or may not look elsewhere. It’s just my opinion that he isn’t as good as other factors suggest. If we sign him I’ll still scream his name and hope he scores a hat trick against the mackems.

    My lack of optimism regarding Austin may stem from the clubs statement of being able to punch above our weight now.
    IMO we’d have tried to sign Austin even if fatty hadn’t spoke out, I don’t see him as a upgrade on any of our previous targets under Ashley.

    I know people are saying we want rid of Cisse due to age but IMO selling him and replacing with Austin is a huge risk.

    BandB mentioned the injury NUFC are supposedly worried about, being the cynic I am about Ashley I’d say the injury is why we want Austin. It’s a reason to do a cheaper deal than they want to, why pay more when you can pay less.

  • 74 optimistic prime // Jul 6, 2015 at 12:25 PM

    No one else picked up on it, so I’ll stoke the fire.

    Why did Windi post in English on his twitter page?

  • 75 John Tudor // Jul 6, 2015 at 12:28 PM

    his mums from dunderland

  • 76 optimistic prime // Jul 6, 2015 at 12:29 PM

    Shearer

    I suppose it depends who the agent is.

    There was a decent article by Don Hutchinson regarding transfers a couple of weeks ago, suggesting things aren’t as clear cut or by the book as we are led to beleive.

  • 77 Mister Tuff // Jul 6, 2015 at 12:33 PM

    Lindisfarne – the only good thing for me to emarge is that post the open letter it is apparent that all the FF reps are in touch with one another -separately from having contact via Lee Marshall at the club.
    You will recall that any email sent to an FF rep is routed to Lee Marshall first -who then apparently forwards them on.
    To my mind this is a totally unsatisfactory means of communication – tipping off the club before the rep even knows there is an email for him/her.
    Their email accounts should be direct to them with no sneak previews by the club. Smacks of big brother.
    If the reps have a demand, and a consequence could be a statement of no faith in the board. What a “killer” that would be for the club. There would be more ridicule from the football world.
    Might be that the FF members have a wee bit of potential power – hope they realise it.

  • 78 BandB // Jul 6, 2015 at 12:49 PM

    OP@74

    I imagined a conversation earlier, in which Luuk De Jong told him it would go down very well with fans in Newcastle.

  • 79 beermonkey // Jul 6, 2015 at 12:50 PM

    prime

    all his posts are english

  • 80 Toonfan8 // Jul 6, 2015 at 12:54 PM

    we dont need average squad players, we need starters and quality, so we need 4-6 players in…
    Mitrovic/Austin…15M
    Wijnaldum….15M
    Rolan….13M
    Matip/Abdennour….10-15M
    ———————————-
    maybee second CB…5-10M
    maybee winger….10M

    so we must spend about 60M…bud all on starters and quality players…
    this line up
    janmaat,matip,colo,haidara
    …wijnaldum-sissoko……….
    rolan….de jong……..aarons
    ………..mitrovic………………
    it looks top quality….if sissoko is sold just play there tiote/anita/colback —enough cover there….perez,cabella can cover am/wg positions and cisse,riviere CF…

  • 81 lesh // Jul 6, 2015 at 12:56 PM

    If Charnley doesn’t pitch up at the FF meeting, then I’d suggest it’s because he hasn’t got the balls to face the questioning he’ll hopefully face.

    He was the one that promised to respond to the Open Letter and is the only one with the authority to speak on behalf of Ashley. And no, Ashley’s outburst didn’t provide the response as requested point-by-point.

    If he doesn’t turn up but sends Moncur, McClaren or whoever, they deserve respect but the point needs to be made that FF members had expected Charnley! His absence would justify an expression of no-confidence in him (Charnley) or his communication.

    However, he might just rock up with six new signings on his arm.

  • 82 hibbit // Jul 6, 2015 at 1:02 PM

    were are the ff meetings held

  • 83 SuperShearer // Jul 6, 2015 at 1:05 PM

    optimistic prime – there needs to be rules and certificates that football agents have to qualify for. There is so much corruption at this level of football. I would suggest FIFA do something about it but they’re worse than anyone on the corruption front.

  • 84 MAUTITOON // Jul 6, 2015 at 1:10 PM

    Is Jaanmaat still in newcastle?

  • 85 Ron Knee // Jul 6, 2015 at 1:10 PM

    lesh
    Perhaps he’ll be getting all those players ‘over the line’ so too busy to attend!

  • 86 Mister Tuff // Jul 6, 2015 at 1:11 PM

    hibbit – in one of the suites at SJP.

  • 87 optimistic prime // Jul 6, 2015 at 1:12 PM

    Beer

    That clears that up

  • 88 Lindisfarne // Jul 6, 2015 at 1:15 PM

    optimistic prime

    Austin is definitely a risk but IMO about the level in quality that the club can attract, if he fails then it will be very expensive but his career to date suggests that he works hard and makes defenders work hard.

    Mister Tuff

    The FF will only realise their potential if they are organised, rather than trying to get their own individual points on the minutes to make a name to themselves.

  • 89 John Tudor // Jul 6, 2015 at 1:15 PM

    flying pigs be ferked

  • 90 Our Toon // Jul 6, 2015 at 1:18 PM

    OP & Lindisfarne

    I’ve been saying for a long time that Austin is vastly overrated, he scored 4 goals from the pen spot so in open play he got 14 goals, 3 more than Cisse who isnt a pen taker….we rarely get pens.

    What them stats Lindisfarne put up don’t tell you is the impact they had on other goals, I can guarantee Aguero and Costa got a serious amounts of assists. If Austin was a foreign player he’d not have got the hype he’s getting right now. Personally I hope we stay well clear.

  • 91 hibbit // Jul 6, 2015 at 1:23 PM

    our toon a goal is a goal no matter how he gets them ……how many pens did shearer get

  • 92 Toonfan8 // Jul 6, 2015 at 1:24 PM

    Rolán, Wijnaldum and Mitrovic/Austin will add goals, thats what we need…

  • 93 Mister Tuff // Jul 6, 2015 at 1:25 PM

    Lidisfarne – for me it is the last chance for the FF. Their open letter to Penfold was totally out of the blue and I would never have anticipated it in a month of Sundays.
    I only hope they can follow up with some probing questions. They should hopefully now not suffer from nerves and be bolder. Some of their previous questioning (save only by good questions by about two of them) was feeble and lamentable -with Judas Moncur jumping in to deflect questions. The questions were of the beefee crisps standard as suggested by BandB.
    They should anticipate ambiguous answers and always have a follow up question at the ready. Pressurise them/pin them back -no holds barred.
    If it ends up a beefee crisps session I will have lost all faith in them.
    I do not think it will – clearly they’ll be demanding reasons about lack of contact/earlier meeting etc. so the gloves should be off from the start – I hope.

  • 94 Our Toon // Jul 6, 2015 at 1:35 PM

    Hibbit

    Did you read what I put or did you just jump to conclusions buddy? I’ll try to rephrase this so you don’t get offended.

    Cisse scored 11 goals from open play in 22 matches (quite a few sub appearances) Austin scored 14 goals from open play from 35 appearances (most if not all he started in). I’d keep Cisse all day long.

    Here’s another fact, Bobby Zamora helped Austin out big time last season as the big man who battled for everything, got assists for him, bullied defenders for him. Austin won’t have that here, does that mean he’ll be effective?

  • 95 Lindisfarne // Jul 6, 2015 at 1:37 PM

    Our Toon

    The number of assist are Aguero 8, Kane 4, Costa 3, Austin 5, according to whoscored.com

    I personally try not to pay too much attention to the ‘red tops’ but I imagine they are full of Austin being in the England squad. I would not mind Austin coming into NUFC and have previously stated that we should be paying the £15M to get the deal done. If there is better available at the same price or lower that can be definitely brought in then fine, but we need someone!

  • 96 nut meg // Jul 6, 2015 at 1:38 PM

    Sky Sports are saying NUFC are considering a bid !
    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/9905001?

  • 97 Our Toon // Jul 6, 2015 at 1:38 PM

    We need a strong striker who can score, a striker in the mould of a Benteke or Lukaku, not specifically these players. We don’t need an Austin in my opinion

  • 98 Lindisfarne // Jul 6, 2015 at 1:42 PM

    whoscored.com cutting:

    Mario Lemina (Marseille)

    Given their tendency to look to French talent in recent seasons Newcastle’s forays in the transfer market look set to continue along the same trend despite a change of manager in Steve McLaren. The latest Ligue 1 youngster linked with a move to the North East is Marseille’s Mario Lemina, though a reported bid in the region of €6m is believed to have been rejected.

    The 21-year old only joined l’OM in 2013 from Lorient and made 23 appearances for Bielsa’s side in 2014/15, though 10 of those came as a substitute. The youngster plays with impressive maturity and, despite favouring a position in defensive midfield, was also deployed at right-back on four occasions last season. Meanwhile, no Marseille player managed a tackle more often (every 27.3 minutes), with a pass accuracy of 90% enough to rank among the top 10 players in the entire division last term.

    After a hugely disappointing season last year it’s clear that Newcastle need a makeover, yet they are still to make a signing so far this summer. If Lemina is indeed among their primary targets the club will need to loosen the purse strings for a player who cost Marseille €5m two years ago and will have only added to his value.

  • 99 Our Toon // Jul 6, 2015 at 1:43 PM

    Lindisfarne

    How many goals did Chelsea score from Costa battling defenders? How many goals did Citeh get from Aguero going on mazy runs etc. somethings stats can never back up. As for Kane, I said he had an astonishing 4 months followed by a very dire 4 months, last 15 games Kane has scored 2 goals!! Prior to that everything he touched turned to gold, consistency is something that I read about a lot on here….lets see Kane doing more what he did in the 1st 4 months, because at present and at the u21 competition he was very poor.

    The better option for me would be Mitrovic, a better all round striker and just what we need.

  • 100 welshgeordie9 // Jul 6, 2015 at 1:45 PM

    So charlie have had an injury, so what, that didn’t stop newcastle sign ba and remy.

  • 101 Our Toon // Jul 6, 2015 at 1:48 PM

    Lindisfarne

    Not seen Lemina play, but DM is defo something we need. Anyone seen this lad, whats he like?

  • 102 Toonfan8 // Jul 6, 2015 at 1:48 PM

    Mitrovic,Wijnadum,Rolan and Abdennour…and we can be Top 6-8 team without doubts…

  • 103 Lindisfarne // Jul 6, 2015 at 1:49 PM

    Our Toon

    I certainly agree with, but Austin is the only player that we will probably attract. I am not sure how much physically incapable he is than the examples you give, but he is quite agile and can hit through the ball well. Plus he would be a safer option than Das Bost. The only reason I am pushing for him is because the team needs someone, a stronger more athletic goal scorer would be more appreciated.

  • 104 Sazzer // Jul 6, 2015 at 1:51 PM

    “@football_oranje: Wijnaldum “The media find transfer news more exciting than I, there is no truth in me moving to Newcastle” (ED)”

  • 105 croftus5678 // Jul 6, 2015 at 1:51 PM

    the longer the austin saga goes on the more i think we should leave him alone and go for a cheaper better version in mitrovic !

    just read an article that said it wouldnt be progress if we signed wijnaldum but sold sissoko !

    imo its huge progress ! sissoko has not exactly lit the prem alive and as good as he is he should be far more effective than he has proven to be.

    wijnaldum imo is a top 6 club player where as sissoko is only touching that.

  • 106 Our Toon // Jul 6, 2015 at 1:55 PM

    I wouldn’t sell Sissoko, I would get him to work on his first touch, last season he was guilty of trying to much as all around him were pants going forward. Hopefully he will become more of a team player because no one else can get us to transition from defence to attack as quick as he can

  • 107 Belfast // Jul 6, 2015 at 1:56 PM

    I’m a little confused at how you can be in advanced talks to sign someone when you haven’t even bid for them ?

  • 108 croftus5678 // Jul 6, 2015 at 1:59 PM

    @107 belfat

    i have no idea either !

    i do know that they told him he could leave if a suitable offer came in for him and that he was looking for a new challenge last season with the prem being his preferred destination but i dont think they can talk to a player or his agent untill a fee was agree’d unless otherwise stated as far as i know.

  • 109 Belfast // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:05 PM

    Yeah exactly. The complete opposite of advanced talks actually. We’ve yet to even bid for him.

  • 110 Ron Knee // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:06 PM

    Sazzer
    That’s cheering news!

  • 111 Sazzer // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:06 PM

    Some say there’s more to the quote. Something about him just saying he is relaxed about the situation and nothing agreed yet. Media getting ahead of themselves.

  • 112 Belfast // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:11 PM

    PSV EXPECTING NEWCASTLE OFFER

    We have an update on the future of Newcastle target Georginio Wijnaldum. Reports over the weekend suggested Toon boss Steve McClaren was in advanced talks with PSV Eindhoven over a move for the Holland international after he was left out of the club’s first pre-season friendly.

    However, Wijnaldum only returned to training today and was never due to play in the friendly.

    We understand PSV are expecting a bid from Newcastle for the player but there has been nothing concrete so far.

  • 113 WWSBRD // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:13 PM

    Belfast
    Pretty sure before we bid for anyone we would be talking to their agent and pretty much agreeing terms for a contract

  • 114 Shadow_Shearer // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:13 PM

    Can anybody tell me is Wijnaldum any good. I haven’t seen much of him, but he looks like another remy cabella to me

  • 115 Belfast // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:15 PM

    The likes of Lee Ryder and Luke Edwards like to jump the gun to pretend they have the inside track.

    Like Luke Edwards making a fool of himself yesterday with the article about him being left out of the Psv squad.

    He was still on his holidays.

    They’re just as bad as the fraud accounts really.

  • 116 BandB // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:17 PM

    Tuff,

    If the make-up of Fans’ Forum members was a reflection of this blog, then it would likely contain an element that considers it outrageous to ask Mr Ashley impertinent questions about his business.

    But it isn’t, as it contains no lapsed season ticket holders.

    Sometimes it throws up up a controversy, more by accident than design.

    I can’t understand the argument that the club would splash out 20 or 30 million quid in the next few days to bury the bad news…

  • 117 BandB // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:19 PM

    Is that right WWSRB?

    We agree personal terms, then we consider a bid……..?!?!

  • 118 WWSBRD // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:21 PM

    BandB
    Not agree completely but I would be surprised if we went through all the trouble of bidding to then go into a meeting blind

    Kind of the whole point of football agents

  • 119 Ron Knee // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:22 PM

    Belfast
    I’m confused. I thought Charmless was in charge of negotiations.

  • 120 Belfast // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:23 PM

    Yes Wwsbrd but it’s not advanced talks if you haven’t even bid for the player.

    Advanced talks is the latter stages bid accepted terms agreed etc etc

  • 121 beermonkey // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:23 PM

    prime

    quite smart of windi to post on twitter in English
    very forward thinking

  • 122 BandB // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:24 PM

    WWSRD

    The blog is certainly the place for desperate theories at the moment.

  • 123 Sazzer // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:25 PM

    Google translate of dutch original source ED.
    According to numerous media reports, there is interest include Newcastle United and Zenit St Petersburg. And PSV assumes that the captain go abroad. Wijnaldum said that there is interest, but the clubs must come first. Names of clubs he called not. ,, Everything is called and written a lot, but as long as it is not concrete, I focus on PSV. When things go play then I hear from my agent and then I think about it and make a decision, not now. ” The PSV captain responds relax on the uncertainty about his future. ,, So football. I see it. There are players who are in a worse position. After my injury I’m not so much looking ahead. Keep playing is my only dream. ”

  • 124 WWSBRD // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:25 PM

    BandB
    So ur under the assumption hat we dont talk to the players agent before bidding for them?

  • 125 Sazzer // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:26 PM

    http://www.ed.nl/algemeen/sport/voetbal/media-vinden-transfernieuws-spannender-dan-ik-1.5059950

  • 126 Sazzer // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:28 PM

    I see BELFAST already posted a better version.

  • 127 Our Toon // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:30 PM

    Most clubs give permission to other clubs to speak to players whilst they negotiate a fee, happens a lot, just means the deal gets pushed through quicker.

  • 128 Sazzer // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:32 PM

    Or not. But it was close to the google translate one.

  • 129 BandB // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:32 PM

    We are CONSIDERING a bid, not negotiating a fee.

  • 130 Belfast // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:33 PM

    There seems to be a game of cat and mouse on twatter between the real journalists and the fakers.

    The “exclusives” battle. Luke Edwards story from yesterday is a prime example of it. So desperate to get the article out there he didn’t even look in to it first.

    Quite funny actually !

  • 131 Blackley and Brownlie // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:33 PM

    Charnley thinks it’s a good idea to have someone who can speak English like the Dutch in order for the Dutch, who speak good English, but like Dutch speak English, to feel comfortable in negotiations. Hence Steve, who is proficient at speaking English, but like the Dutch speak English. Sounds promising.

  • 132 Belfast // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:36 PM

    I got that off sky sports transfer center Sazzer

  • 133 croftus5678 // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:37 PM

    @124 wwsbrd

    we need permision to talk to the player off their current club !

  • 134 Mister Tuff // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:43 PM

    BandB – didn’t grasp what you meant by splashing out 20-30 million to hide the bad news.

  • 135 Blackley and Brownlie // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:45 PM

    The Dutch reckon that what we say is our final offer is either a double bluff or double dutch. Charnley doesn’t know which. It’s not because he doesn’t speak dutch that he doesn’t know. The dutch speak English but Charnley just doesn’t understand English with a dutch accent. Hence he’s asked Steve to lead the latest negotiations.

  • 136 Shadow_Shearer // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:46 PM

    Can anybody tell me is Wijnaldum any good. I haven’t seen much of him, but he looks like another remy cabella to me

  • 137 WWSBRD // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:52 PM

    croftus
    Haha come on now that might be the rules but realistically there are ways and means

  • 138 croftus5678 // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:53 PM

    @136 shadow

    yes he is good 😉

  • 139 davetoon // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:56 PM

    Someone wake me up when we have bought a decent centre back

  • 140 croftus5678 // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:57 PM

    @139 dave

    sorry mate but your in for a long sleep !

  • 141 YouCouldn'tMakeItUp // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:58 PM

    Dave

    Planning to hibernate until ay least January?

  • 142 Ibizatoon // Jul 6, 2015 at 2:59 PM

    BandB…That Ladbrokes author bio was a worthy read…thanks for the chuckle.

    BandB / Jesper…Re club “communication”…Based on what has come before, I’m not sure how any level of trust can be expected. As BandB says, the solution appears to be to remove the only 2 worth getting any info from out of the firing line.

    Then it’s the FF, Bob and personalised emails from Steve….oh, and the preferred media partners.

    I cannot buy in to this whole it’s a PR screw up. Ashley has in one of the top PR guys in the UK working on this, you can be fairly sure that what they’re getting is what they want.

    Why would the club be looking for such an enviornment? I asked a while ago, if all was good and going in the right direction, would you not be shouting it from the rooftops? You’d have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

  • 143 davetoon // Jul 6, 2015 at 3:03 PM

    More than likely. Like others have said. What good is it to sell 2 of our best players to buy 2 other decent players.. Would only make sense to Charnley.

  • 144 Offkey // Jul 6, 2015 at 3:05 PM

    Considering that the Northampton Manager has confirmed that talks are ongoing talks for I van Toney, if it is us is LC doing it and if so do we really expect him to be able to multi-task on other deals

    (the article doesn’t state which team though and it does not state what question was asked e.g. are you in talks with NUFC for Toney)

    http://metro.co.uk/2015/07/06/newcastle-close-on-ivan-toney-transfer-northampton-confirm-talks-5282404/?

  • 145 bettyswallocks // Jul 6, 2015 at 3:08 PM

    There’s no point worrying until the transfer window shuts. Better to just sheep until then.

  • 146 bettyswallocks // Jul 6, 2015 at 3:09 PM

    Welsh sorry ……I meant sleep.

  • 147 Offkey // Jul 6, 2015 at 3:12 PM

    @145 – I think that the transfer window may be (or would have been) more successful had the pressure on MA continued and not just fizzled out.




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