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Everton Move In For Newcastle’s Top Target

11:04 pm, Tuesday, July 7th, 2015 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 90 Comments

The longer you spend in negotiations when the word is out you are after a top player, the more likely it is that good clubs will move in and try to do the deal with the player themselves.

That’s what seems to have happened at Newcastle, who have presumably been negotiating with PSV for the transfer of midfielder Georginio Wijnaldum since the weekend, with no apparent success or progress.

Georginio Wijnaldum

Georginio Wijnaldum – Everton considering move for midfielder

The Mirror is reporting tonight that Everton have now moved in to try to sign the 19 times capped 24 year-old Dutch International.

Managing Director Lee Charnley is supposed to be having talks in Holland with PSV to try to seal the deal, but it’s taking far too long – which is not unusual with Newcastle, who cannot seem to move quickly for any transfer.

Georginio returned to training only yesterday, and he has talked about the Newcastle move but he revealed Newcastle have still to agree a fee with PSV and so the ball is in Newcastle’s court.

It wouldn’t surprise us if Everton try to move ahead of Newcastle in this race, by quickly agreeing a fee with the Dutch club for Wijnaldum.

It looks like Newcastle will have to cough up £15M to get the Dutchman, which is what they will be balking about – as usual – plus the wages needed to convince Georginio  to move to Tyneside could be as high as £60K/week.

Newcastle have plenty of money available in the bank –  they just don’t like spending it, and it’s hard to break out of a habit that has lasted eight years.

We don’t know why there is so much delay with transfers into Newcastle, with the Premier League starting in four weeks come this weekend.

But Newcastle must become more aggressive and show more skill and determination in being able to attract and sign good players this summer.

Comments welcome.

Tags: Newcastle News · Recruitment · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target

90 responses so far ↓

  • 1 optimistic prime // Jul 7, 2015 at 11:13 PM

    Is that a echo?

  • 2 Average_Contents // Jul 7, 2015 at 11:14 PM

    When I said being unable to compete with Everton I actually meant any other prem club, probably a handful of fizzy pop one’s aswell.

    No need to fret though aye. Super shteve will whip our ragtag bunch of relegation hopefuls into top 8 candidates in no time. We don’t even need any new players he’s THAT good.

    My minds at ease. We don’t need CB’s as we’ve already got four top notch one’s who survived the championship. Who needs strikers when we can score 40 goals in a single season. We don’t.

    All’s well here shteve, crack on.

    On a side note – why are people STILL interacting with that sad little blurt?

    Is it worth it. I’d say no. Chasing tails.

  • 3 King Colback // Jul 7, 2015 at 11:15 PM

    I rrally hope there is some truth in the rumour of Charnley being in Holland, this is the sort of chap we need, let Sissoko go and buy him.

  • 4 Jib // Jul 7, 2015 at 11:16 PM

    This is the item

    Guess who wrote it ?
    This could be a bit of payback from Simon Bird for the Charlie Austin fiasco

  • 5 Average_Contents // Jul 7, 2015 at 11:16 PM

    No OP, sorry it is. In the boardroom…I mean cleaning cupboard…I mean canteen…I mean lee’s closet. He’s run out of tea.

  • 6 Online Guy // Jul 7, 2015 at 11:16 PM

    If you guys would be so kind as to check out
    Coco And The Butterfields you wont regret it …let me know what you think please . Ta

  • 7 Blackley and Brownlie // Jul 7, 2015 at 11:17 PM

    If this lad is anything like Cabella, we should be hoping no deal is struck.

  • 8 geordieboy83 // Jul 7, 2015 at 11:22 PM

    Online guy

    Very different I’ll give you that mate lol. Sounds canny, good idea

  • 9 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jul 7, 2015 at 11:22 PM

    Lee in Holland! That most be for a time out in Town “if you know what I mean” 😉

    …surely it’s not work related!

  • 10 BlacknWhiteBarmy // Jul 7, 2015 at 11:24 PM

    as you say “The longer you spend in negotiations when the word is out you are after a top player, the more likely it is that good clubs will move in and try to do the deal with the player themselves”

    But it also allows FAtMan and Co to say they tried but couldnt get him over the line YAWN YAWN.

    Personally hope all player leave, no one signs and FatMan gets his fingers trapped in the till. Relegation certainties!

  • 11 Bri // Jul 7, 2015 at 11:26 PM

    coffee shops apparently

  • 12 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jul 7, 2015 at 11:29 PM

    GT would like to recommend “Captain and the Toenail’s” Muskrat Love 🙂

  • 13 BandB // Jul 7, 2015 at 11:31 PM

    Aesop explains the Newcastle United…

    The Scorpion and the Frog

    A scorpion and a frog meet on the bank of a stream.
    The scorpion asks the frog to carry him across on its back.
    The frog asks, “How do I know you won’t sting me?”
    The scorpion says, “Because if I do, I will die too.”
    The frog is satisfied, and they set out.
    Butt in midstream, the scorpion stings the frog.
    The frog feels the onset of paralysis and starts to sink.
    “Why have you done that?” the frog gasps. “Now we will both drown.”
    “I am a scorpion” says the scorpion, “and it is my nature…”

  • 14 Our Toon // Jul 7, 2015 at 11:31 PM

    To many saying he’s a replacement for Sissoko, I personally think he should be a replacement for Cabella. Put sissoko on the wing where Cabella was!!

  • 15 optimistic prime // Jul 7, 2015 at 11:31 PM

    I keep half expecting to see Charnley dressed as the town cryer ringing a bell shouting

    “four weeks til the start of the season and all is well”

    I think he probably would if the approved fans stopped doing it for him.

  • 16 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jul 7, 2015 at 11:31 PM

    If you get excited by what Newcastle are doing this summer then it’s your own fault if you get let down!

  • 17 geordieboy83 // Jul 7, 2015 at 11:31 PM

    Jesper other than fischer, are there any other under the radar players in your neck of the woods that are ones to watch for the future or present?

  • 18 King Colback // Jul 7, 2015 at 11:39 PM

    Sissokos heart obciously isn’t in Newcastle if he’s touting himself elsewhere

  • 19 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jul 7, 2015 at 11:40 PM

    geordieboy83…Pierre-Emil Højbjerg, Lucas Andersen, Yussuf Poulsen, Mikkel Duelund and Pione Sisto

  • 20 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jul 7, 2015 at 11:42 PM

    Patrick Olsen was one to watch, but for some reason he has fallen from grace

  • 21 la.jim // Jul 7, 2015 at 11:43 PM

    Your right Capt’,how can anybody get excited with constant let downs in the transfer market ,it’s so depressing. .

  • 22 bettyswallocks // Jul 7, 2015 at 11:46 PM

    BandB………… Fair play you were the only one with the bottle to question the validility of you know who.
    A lot of us thought it but nobody had the guts to say it.

  • 23 bettyswallocks // Jul 7, 2015 at 11:50 PM

    BandB. Meant validity but anyway well done done for detecting a bell that doesn’t ring true.

  • 24 BlacknWhiteBarmy // Jul 7, 2015 at 11:53 PM

    On the bright side we might get Ivan Toney if tehy will accept a low bid of £300,000 – WTF


  • 25 Online Guy // Jul 8, 2015 at 12:07 AM


    Cheers mate.

  • 26 Online Guy // Jul 8, 2015 at 12:10 AM

    BandB @13

    A talking Scorpion ..whatever next !

  • 27 Online Guy // Jul 8, 2015 at 12:17 AM

    I’v Killed the frog

  • 28 lesh // Jul 8, 2015 at 12:23 AM

    Charnley in Holland?

    Either he’s got a doppelgänger who attended the FF or he’s not in Holland.

    Could anyone expect to get from SJP to the airport in time to catch a flight to the Dam?

    No chance, it’d take him at least a week!

    He’s useless!

  • 29 Blofal // Jul 8, 2015 at 12:26 AM

    This does worry me. Everton are a much more attractive prospect than us.

    To attract the best players with the reputation we have had lately we need to pay over the odds both in transfer fees and wages.

    If Charnley isn’t willing to do that then we will likely bring in a couple of panic buys that will flop.

    I just don’t get this. We should have had our targets lined up and gone for them hard straight away. It doesn’t look like we even started seriously trying in players will a week ago.

    One thing is for sure though.. McClaren’s reputation is on the line. It’s all or nothing for him now. If Charnley doesn’t get the targets over the line it will make Ashley look stupid after his interview and could end McClaren’s career. So Charnley better get his act together or I see him out of a job very soon.

  • 30 Pop n Wyn // Jul 8, 2015 at 12:27 AM

    We`re all worn out and the season hasn’t even started, what an fcuk on as usual.

  • 31 beefman13 // Jul 8, 2015 at 12:35 AM

    Ditto, Pop n Wyn.

  • 32 nufc 11 // Jul 8, 2015 at 12:45 AM

    Seems JFK could do deals better than charnley I know he works for 250pound a week but come fcuking on he is not even worth that. The club need to buy British and sprinkle foreign players on top not the other way round. Austin, Dawson, Phillips, Keane and maybe Joel Campbell frn gunners my bet with lindegrad frn man u on loan.

  • 33 Novocastrian66 // Jul 8, 2015 at 12:46 AM

    Oh well that’s another slipped through the net.

  • 34 Thump // Jul 8, 2015 at 12:53 AM

    Well, that’s him gone.

    I hear Nacho’s available.

  • 35 The overrated Frenchman // Jul 8, 2015 at 1:14 AM

    Signing a player is an incredibly complex process. Firstly you have to pay the selling club what they want, and then you have to agree to a wage with the player. That’s TWO steps. Clearly that’s a bridge too far for Charnley to cope with….

  • 36 expatmag // Jul 8, 2015 at 2:10 AM

    Since January



    Not forgetting we allegedly got 3.5 million for Pardew as well.

    From that, we would have paid out Carver and Stone.

  • 37 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jul 8, 2015 at 3:02 AM

    The way I see it there are two scenarios:

    1) We simply keep going for the wrong players financially and we never seen to learn it,

    2) It’s all just to make us look active in the transfer market trying to attract ‘the right ‘ players. We just couldn’t agree on a deal!

    Both are a highly naive way of running a football club. Some would probably be less kind than I am right now!

  • 38 expatmag // Jul 8, 2015 at 3:26 AM


    To continually look for bargains is doomed to failure as generally, bargains prove fruitless in improving the team.

    That is the nature of the beast in charge of the club. In fact, other than Cabaye and Debuchy, he has failed to make substantial windfalls from bargains he has purchased.

    I dont count Milner Nzogbia Given or Carroll because he didnt buy them.

  • 39 Magpie Season // Jul 8, 2015 at 3:31 AM


    From a previous article.

    Whoever is blocking the moves or bidding lower than the selling club’s evaluation of the players then I can only fathom the reasoning to be that Charnley, whom I think is the culprit, is looking at past seasons. Particularly the season we finished 5th where most of our prominent players were bought for considerably low fees.

    Cabaye, Tiote were less than 5 million pounds. Ba was free, etc.

    The trouble is these bargain players are becoming more elusive as well the time it takes to scout & negotiate deals in between.

    I think he is also comparing the fortune of other clubs in the transfer market where Southampton, Swansea have in recent times bought quality players for much lower fees.

    Which comes to my point; no matter how high the calibre of the player we are chasing, there will not be one signing over 10 million pounds.

  • 40 expatmag // Jul 8, 2015 at 3:35 AM

    Looking at this season alone, he has sold Santon for 2.8m having bought him for 5m, Mbiwa for 5.5m having bought him for 7m and released HBA having bought him for 6m.

    By my reckoning, that us a loss of almost 10m on just those three pl ayers alone.

  • 41 Magpie Season // Jul 8, 2015 at 3:36 AM

    expatmag@ 38:

    Exactly what I was trying to say mate. You can look for them in the side, while a season is going on & your scouting team sets them but not start your search for a bargain during a major transfer window.

  • 42 Magpie Season // Jul 8, 2015 at 3:40 AM


    Since Charnley negotiate the deals, he probably neglected the losses in transfers when selling Santon et al.

    I think he was more concerned about reducing the clubs wage bill as those high profile players were on hefty wages.

  • 43 expatmag // Jul 8, 2015 at 3:45 AM


    It us like a broken record over the 8 years he has been in charge.

    I dont blame Charnley. The buck stops with the fatman and people can crow till the cows come home about best stadium, great fans, great history but what it all boils down to now is that Newcastle United Football clubs reputation in the football world under this regime is worse than the dogshit you pick up on your shoes in the street and we no longer attract players other than those desperate enough to use us as a stepping stone.

    Whether complete and utter neglect has been achieved by this greedy bastards grand design to milk us dry or due to total inefficiency, it id up to the individual to make their minds up on.

    I personally believe the former because like him or loathe him, Ashley is not stupid.

  • 44 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 8, 2015 at 3:48 AM

    Ahh, its a sad sad state of affairs this. Great at getting players out and removing them from the wage bill though!

    With Sammy off to Cardiff I hope it is directly connected with offering Arrons a better deal than he has been offered previously. I’d pick Arrons out the two of them without a doubt. If Arron’s dosn’t work out next year we always have Sammy coming back in. Good little scenario that.

  • 45 Our Toon // Jul 8, 2015 at 3:51 AM

    No wonder Ashley chose us to take over, how many times people charnley is the face Ashley hides behind. Kinnear, Llambias and others will continue to “fail” in out eyes and succeed in Ashley’s eyes. Charnley is nothing more than a puppet for you to vent your anger at as deals can’t be concluded….They can’t be completed because the person signing the cheques won’t allow it… know him well he’s the fat liar thay came on TV to tell you all is well!!

    Stop blaming charnley and start pointing the finger Ashley

  • 46 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 8, 2015 at 4:16 AM


    I have similar thoughts about Charnley and all of the staff also, he is obviously working under restrictions as have the coaches under Ashley’s tenure with not strengthening at due times. Can’t really tell at the moment with no sinings in just how good he is, but then again, there could he a flurry of players come in. Typical NUFC shifting players out first, problem with that is you risk losing top targets the longer you take.

    On a side note, I’ll be watching the MLS aswell as the Premier next season. Gerrard, Pirlo, Robbie Keane and Lampard. Should be canny I think. Not like me to be watching other leagues but I’ll be tuning in.

    As time goes on though it dosn’t look good and looks a struggle.

  • 47 Santon03 // Jul 8, 2015 at 5:15 AM

    List of done deals.
    Liverpool, bournemouth, swans, soton, and watford are the most active in this month.

  • 48 Santon03 // Jul 8, 2015 at 5:26 AM

    Cabaye will only agree 10mil move to palace if he gets 100k/week.

  • 49 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 8, 2015 at 5:28 AM

    Today might be the break through, you never know with this lot!

  • 50 expatmag // Jul 8, 2015 at 5:36 AM

    Toon prod

    Dream on mate. The next transfer activity will be someone out. That is the pattern they work to.

  • 51 Santon03 // Jul 8, 2015 at 5:38 AM


    They have to sell, even minus Sammy we still have 26 players.

  • 52 Ron Knee // Jul 8, 2015 at 5:58 AM

    Like a new signing:

  • 53 Reyantoon // Jul 8, 2015 at 6:14 AM

    According to the Guardian,Psg and Palace agree for the transfer of cabaye.
    If we can’t get wijnaldum tied up,or Grenier or some other playmaker,we are doomed.
    The most likely player we gonna sign this week will be that young lad Ivan Toney.
    Don’t think we’ll be beaten by Everton for wijnaldum though.We only lose out if zenite are seriousley in for him.If he decided to come to the pl,it’ll only come to us b/c we have couple of his Dutch mates,sdj,janmaat,krul…!

  • 54 Chris // Jul 8, 2015 at 6:16 AM

    expatmag // Jul 8, 2015 at 3:35 AM

    “By my reckoning, that us a loss of almost 10m on just those three players alone.”

    Yeah, but that isn’t how the bean counters at the club would look at it. Their accountancy training tells them that the loss (or profit) on the sale of a player isn’t the difference between what they pay for him and what they sell him for – it’s the difference between the sale proceeds and the net book value of the player’s contract, which is being written down (‘amortised’) over the length of the contract. That means that it isn’t just the amount received that determines the profit or loss – it also depends on the length of time remaining on the player’s contract when he’s sold.

    Take Benny for example. He was signed in January 2011 on a four and a half year contract so when he was released in January 2015 most of the original transfer fee would already have been written off. As far as the club’s financial records are concerned the book loss as a result of Benny’s departure would have been negligible . Same with Santon, whose 5 year contract was expiring next June, so most of his original 5m transfer fee would have been written off as well. In fact, if they got 2.8m for him they would have made a modest profit on the deal. As for MYM, his contract wasn’t due to expire until 2018 so in his case they would have more or less broken even. Taking the 3 players together, I’d say the books would show that they made a small overall profit, not a 10m loss.

  • 55 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jul 8, 2015 at 6:17 AM

    It’s things like the ‘bargain situations’ the uninspiring kind folks at the FF meeting should have been bringing up!

    …not to hit them (Charmless and Ashley) over the head, but to show we are on to them!

    Would be great to have that in the minutes!

  • 56 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 8, 2015 at 6:18 AM


    Honest, this is it today! A signing! Haha. I can dream.


    Do we really have 26??

    Are these not fringe players or there abouts? Reserves. Has anyone got a list of the 26?

    We have lost a load of players since January.

  • 57 expatmag // Jul 8, 2015 at 6:18 AM

    Breaking News……..

    Wycombe Wanderers outbid Newcastle United for Northampton Town teen superstar Ivan Toney. Newcastles Chief Executive was quoted as saying:
    “We just couldnt match Wycombes offer of 2 pints of lager and a packet of crisps per week.”

  • 58 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 8, 2015 at 6:20 AM

    Ahh no way, Shane Ferguson to get another chance. He couldn’t even get in the 25 last year. Well, there is another one who will make up the 25 who hasn’t made the grade at the Toon.

  • 59 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jul 8, 2015 at 6:21 AM

    Minutes from the FF meeting:

    35 min. Ashley and Charmless are underbidding deliberately because they have no intentions of actually buying these high profile players!

    …it just have to look like we can and will compete. To keep our purples and our fans happy.

  • 60 Santon03 // Jul 8, 2015 at 6:30 AM


    yes I made a list yesterday, let me try find it.

    We let go Raylor and Jonas, but we get Lascelles and Darlow in, as well as Marv and Good then we loan Sammy. So it’s 26 from last season team, I don’t know we could include Good or not but he is in the picture of training session. Even without Good is 25 players.

  • 61 Ron Knee // Jul 8, 2015 at 6:31 AM

    This was posted on The Chronic website. It suggests why Ashley made his appeal to the Geordie Nation:

    “Sky screen two Championship matches a week and during the last spell down there Newcastle had attracted a vastly disproportionate number of screenings. It would not be unreasonable to expect Newcastle to be screened live 2 weeks out of every 3. That increase in exposure would be enhanced by the widening of exposure of the SD brand to the likes of Barnsley, Rotherham and Rushden and Diamonds
    Relegation was seen as (a) unlikely and (b) even potentially advantageous in the short term.

    Ashley originally had no intention of attending the West Ham game knowing that the atmosphere was likely to be toxic and that he would take the brunt if the team went down.

    On the Thursday before the West Ham match the whole game changed. In a casual conversation with a club official the Sky producer for football remarked that Newcastle United would not be given a bigger share of screened matches than anyone else and that only 50% max would be from SJP.

    The marketing team hit meltdown, suddenly the minor hiccup of relegation had become a major eruption. The main focus was to keep the match day crowd onside, a massive challenge under the circumstances.

    Cue John Bishop who rightly identified that an almost messianic message from the owner broadcast around the stadium would calm the natives.”

  • 62 Santon03 // Jul 8, 2015 at 6:33 AM

    Santon03 // Jul 7, 2015 at 6:21 AM

    our current squad:
    Krul, Darlow, Elliot
    Janmaat, Dummet, Willo, Colo, Lascelles, Haidara, Saylor, Good
    Colback, Anita, abeid, Sissoko, SDJ, Cabella, Obertan, Gouffran, Aarons, Tiote, Marv
    Cisse, Manu, Arma, Perez

    that’s 3gk, 3fb, 5cb, 6cm, 5wg, 4fw = 26 players

    did I forgot someone? So definitely need to sell someone, we have 5cb if Good is included.

  • 63 Santon03 // Jul 8, 2015 at 6:35 AM

    well if Fergie is included then it will be 27

  • 64 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jul 8, 2015 at 6:39 AM

    Santon…you won’t have to register Lascelles and Aarons

  • 65 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jul 8, 2015 at 6:39 AM

    …or Armstrong

  • 66 Lynny // Jul 8, 2015 at 6:40 AM

    How gutted are those fans that decide to keep their season tickets this season?Penfolds still pulling the same crack – we-‘ll give you 10m. No we want 15m. Ok 10.1m (please don’t say ok, cos fatty will kill me!) Look we pay cold hard cash where with other clubs you won’t Get 15m for 3 years. In 3 years our 10m ll have made an extra 6 in intrest (it doesn’t matter if they take the bait, cos I’m only offering the lad 10k a week!). Penfold will be spending every spare second with the ladyboys in the red light district anyway! We’re a laughing stock!

  • 67 Lilongwe Geordie // Jul 8, 2015 at 6:41 AM

    You listed Arms and Aaron’s though, neither of whom need to be listed in the 25 man squad due to age. Neither would Mitrovic I’d we went for him.

  • 68 Santon03 // Jul 8, 2015 at 6:43 AM

    oo ok, i didn’t know that. so take 3 players out then we have 1 space.

  • 69 Santon03 // Jul 8, 2015 at 6:44 AM

    3 = fergie, arms, aarons

  • 70 bobby mango // Jul 8, 2015 at 6:45 AM

    Well no surprise but when will they learn?
    I’m still annoyed all their attention is on a midfielder and not a cb first.

    Must clubs that would be ok, you’d have confidence they know their weak areas and will address them as well but we know we’ll be lucky to get one marquee signing and if it’s a cm not cb then we’re fuct.

  • 71 Santon03 // Jul 8, 2015 at 6:46 AM

    4 including lascelles so 2 available space

  • 72 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jul 8, 2015 at 6:47 AM

    Santon…no the three players are still Lascelles, Aarons and Armstrong

  • 73 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jul 8, 2015 at 6:48 AM

    Fergy is 24 years of age and will need to be registered to play.

  • 74 Santon03 // Jul 8, 2015 at 6:51 AM

    no registration needed is for under 21?

  • 75 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 8, 2015 at 6:54 AM


    Aww god that list to me is frightening. For the Premier League this coming season I can only see the following being anywhere near the level needed. I’v been generous also because some have alot still to prove at the club.

    De Jong

    The following future potential but not ready for this level.


    Should be shown the door, the following.


    Looks to me youngins and players not good enough yet are taking up a large portion of the squad. Lacking like.

  • 76 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jul 8, 2015 at 6:57 AM

    Santon…exactly! That’s why they are a high commodity!

  • 77 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jul 8, 2015 at 7:29 AM

    Charmless on his way to Holland – I to get a connecting flight from Amsterdam, Schipol to Greenland

  • 78 Santon03 // Jul 8, 2015 at 7:31 AM


    I see… thanks

  • 79 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 8, 2015 at 7:32 AM

    Well, according to the chronny, Charnley was in Holland yesterday.

    Is this Sissoko away if we sign this lad wijnaldum? De Jong has to come back also. So basically it looks like Charnley is over there to replace rather than bolster. That is what springs to my mind atleast.

  • 80 Santon03 // Jul 8, 2015 at 7:34 AM


    that’s why we need to sell.
    If we need 6 like most people said then we need to sell some players or loan them out, otherwise too many excess wages.

  • 81 Ron Knee // Jul 8, 2015 at 7:37 AM

    Yes. This is so we can punch above our weight!

  • 82 jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew // Jul 8, 2015 at 7:41 AM

    Santon…on your list of players there are alot to be sorted out before September 2nd when we have to register the 25 player squad’

    1) fringe players above 21 of age need to be to be moved on

    2) players who don’t give at least 35 games a season needs to be moved on and upgraded

    3) players who’s contract runs out in 2016 needs sorted out

    Can anyone draw up how big our 25 man squad is now?

  • 83 nut meg // Jul 8, 2015 at 7:43 AM

    From Lee Ryder today.

  • 84 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 8, 2015 at 7:43 AM


    Im with you aye. I’d rather keep our Sissoko’s, Tiote’s and Cisse’s though not just replace like for like because we won’t move forward and be stuck once injuries occur again. Basically stand still unless we have a lucky season with injuries, which is highly doubtful at this club.

    I’d sell Anita, Gouff, Obertan, Willo, Colo.

    Then loan Ferguson back out also. But doubt we could get much for the above.

  • 85 Toonfan8 // Jul 8, 2015 at 7:46 AM

    this Wijnaldum lad is player, I think team should be build arround…great skills, at 24 captain in PSV, international for Holland, 3rd in the World Cup, best player in Dutch league last season, his CV is great…and I watched matches, where he played and he really looked great….I see Sissoko on the right side of our midfield and he lacks intelligence, to be in CM, but is great athlete and should be RM,LM/RW,LW…

  • 86 Ron Knee // Jul 8, 2015 at 7:46 AM

    And Rivière.

  • 87 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 8, 2015 at 7:55 AM


    Aye, I forgot that fella. Don’t think he will cut it at the Toon like!

  • 88 hibbit // Jul 8, 2015 at 8:06 AM

    i keep reading all these lists about players leaving have we had any offers on any of them NO a lot of these players are just not good enough badly bought deadwood log jamming our squad…..we should just admit they were a bad buy and release them……… easier said then done i know

  • 89 Dragon64 // Jul 8, 2015 at 8:14 AM

    Why do we have to wait so long for a signing?. Let’s hope once we get the 1st one over the line more will follow well let’s hope it is Newcastle

  • 90 Santon03 // Jul 8, 2015 at 8:26 AM

    Jesper, TP

    SM said all have clean slate and fair crack.
    If you that many in your squad, then only 2 possible addition to the squad. Unless we sold Sissoko, Tiote and Cisse.
    Based on last season, I doubt any clubs will go for Gouff and Obertan.
    On the other hand, this club has been managed by pardew and carver, I doubt the players were that bad plus so many injuries. I really think they will play better under SM as long as no hoof ball.

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